Playoffs – A Must, NFC Champ Game – Good, Super Bowl – Great
Eagles, News, Quarterbacks Monday, July 26th, 2010
First of all, let’s agree on the fact that if Donovan McNabb were quarterbacking the Eagles right now, the team would be expected to make the playoffs, win a game or two and go to the Super Bowl.
You know that would be the expectation, so how can “football experts” talk about how much better Kevin Kolb is than McNabb then predict that the team will win 7 game, 8 games or 9.
Comcast Sportsnet’s Ray Didinger was on the Morning Show with Angelo Cataldi on 610-WIP this morning and he said that Kolb should be held to the same standard as McNabb.¬†¬† He made a the solid point that the Eagles would not have traded Donovan McNabb if they didn‚Äôt think Kolb could run the offense as well as McNabb.
Kolb is also supposed to be a much better leader than McNabb.¬† If he’s a better quarterback and a better leader then this team should win more under his leadership than they did under McNabb.
Doesn’t that make sense?
I have been thinking about where I should set the bar for this football team.  What should their record be in this first year of the Kevin Kolb era?
Previously I had written that 8-8 would be okay, 9-7 would be good and 10-6 would be great but after reading and hearing how much better Kolb is than McNabb, I’m convinced that a playoff appearance is a must, a NFC Championship game appearance would be good and a Super Bowl title would be great.
It had been Super Bowl title or bust for McNabb for over half a decade, so how can one set lower expectations for a guy who is a better quarterback.
Seriously, Kolb is playing with a better group of receivers than McNabb ever had, so if he’s truly a better quarterback, then he should have better results.
What do you think?
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Yeah if he’s good then that’s fine. But up until now he’s been either a bum or injured. He plays well on special teams but nothing he’s done says he should get significant time at safety. I’m all for guys having a bad start to their careers and then giving them a chance to turn it around but by them drafting Allen for safety and signed Marlin Jackson it would seem to me that they weren’t going to give him significant time at that spot. He probably would have only played if injury. Macho probably is higher on the depth chart for safety than him. But we’ll see but I’m not believing in Demps until I see something not jut because others guys can turn their career around.
I would hope they McDermott wouldn’t hand him the reigns but coaches get it wrong too. He was supposed to be Dawkins replacement so they must have thought they seen something with him. And then he abruptly lost the starting spot to a guy who didn’t play the position. Just because the coaches hand it over doesn’t mean they get it right. It could mean they have no one else better.
Paulmans 2011 Mock Draft (Top 10 Selections)
#1) Rams – DE R Quinn from UNC
#2) BIlls – QB j Locker from Washington
#3) Bucs – DE A Claybourn from Iowa
#4) Lions – WR AJ Green from Georgia
#5) Browns – RB M Ingram frmo Alabama
#6) Chiefs – QB A Luck from Standford
#7) Jaguars – QB R Mallet from Arkansas
#8) Seahawks- DT M Dareus from Alabama
#9) Raiders – DE C Heyward from Ohio State
#10) Broncos – CB C Brown from University of Texas
True. Heck, CJ Gaddis was ‘supposed to be Dawk’s replacement’ too. It’s hard to find good safetys and it’s not even a lock that Berry and Thomas will be good in the NFL. I don’t think it’s about what the FO/coaches know about Demps when they drafted Allen or got Jackson, it’s about training camp – Demps could be cut if for some reason (longshot) kurt Coleman makes the team. Same goes if they were to sign a CB they like (somehow) and move Macho back to backup S…. anything can happen over the corse of a training camp. That’s the exciting thing about today.
I always thought Demps could be a decent Nickle back at the CB position, then at Safety
Cover the slot WR in 3-4 man sets..
but Imagine if the Eagles made no deals at all on Draft day..they would have had 7 Selections of the top 125 players of so that could have ended up like this…
#24 – CB K Wilson
#37 – S N Allen
#55 – DE C Dunlap
#70 – OG J Jerry
#87 – DE Teo Neisham
#105 – OT B Campbell
#121 – QB M Kafka
Then use their 5th/6th/7th Rd Selections similar to what the did in selecting WR R Cooper ,
RB C Scott, OLB R Sapp , ILB J Cheney …
I think this draft will go down as a lost opportunity to get 4-5 really good players that can be starters within 2 years time and 3-4 players to be quality back-ups at position of need.
PMan – get over it. Nobody knows anything about how any rookies will turn out so far, so its WAY too early to second guess.
It’s a crap shoot for sure,
But after obtaining LB’s Sims and Hall in trades and signing DE Tapp as a free-agent
I am not so sure they needed to draft 2 more DE’s and 3 more LB’s within the 1st 4-5 Rds,
especially when there are big quesiton marks at S/CB postions and also some depth issues along the O/Line.. I would have spread it around and got best player on the board by position of need,
but this camp should be one of more enjoyable,intense and possibly the most important one in years and will set the tone and shape the squad for the next 3-4-5 years based on who does what…
ah yes, drafting for need – exactly what experts say one shouldn’t do. Hall isn’t a factor.
Paul, we all remember when the Eagles were a lock to make the playoffs and contend for a Superbowl appearance and the front office told us they managed the cap in which they could keep this team in contention status for years to come. Now, we can look back and know they were selling us crap in an effort to line there pockets, for if the plan was executed you wouldn’t be here today stating “The Saints,Vikings,Cowboys & Packers are all better teams right now”. Hoe did these teams get better than the Eagles? Was the Eagles in a position to trade out of the 1st round 2 years in a row?
it all comes down to the mighty dollar!
answer…how did these once inferior teams become superior to our eagles?
I disagree with not drafting for need.. how do you sure up weaknesses of a team
I do agree about Hall who probably wont’t make the final cut or could be gone sooner
Defensive squad looks about like this come final cuts
DE (5) – Cole,Parker,Tapp,Graham & Teo (Teo slides to DT in passing downs)
DT (4) – Bunkley,Patterson,Dixon and Owens
ILB (2) – Bradley and Cheney
OLB (4) – Sims,Fokou,Jordan and Clayton
CB (5) – Sammuel,Hobbs,Hanson,Patterson & Lindley
S (4) – Mickell,Allen,Demps,M Harris
24 players total for Defense, 25 for Offense and 3 Special teams gives you 52 man roster
I think T Laws,Gaither, Mays all get cut and get cut pretty early in camp (By 2 week of Preseason) so the can try to hook up with someone else barring there are no injuries. Abriami will be on the PUP list and probably work out some medical release for him
I think R Sapp,Coleman, Pope and B Robinson all make the practice squad for the Def/Side of ball.
Paul, we all remember when the Eagles were a lock to make the playoffs and contend for a Superbowl appearance and the front office told us they managed the cap in which they could keep this team in contention status for years to come. Now, we can look back and know they were selling us crap in an effort to line there pockets for if the plan was executed you wouldn’t be here today stating “The Saints,Vikings,Cowboys & Packers are all better teams right now”. How did these teams get better than the Eagles? Was the Eagles in a position to trade out of the 1st round 2 years in a row?
it all comes down to the mighty dollar!
answer…how did these once inferior teams become superior to our eagles?
Better Talent at the QB,WR, Def/Line and the Def Secondary postions for Starters
Better overall Coaching,and better Rushing attacks with more balanced offenses…
I think the Packers have one of lowest payrolls in the NFL and generally stay away from Free-agency signings.. they build their team mostly thru the Draft which the Cowboys are back to doing again
Take QB Brees and Farve faway rom the Saints/Vikings, then they drop to about the Eagles level…
Take QB P Manning/T Brady from their teams, and they drop down to the Eagles Level…
Take QB McNabb from the Eagles and replace him with Kolb, not much difference overall in the Eagles, The Eagles Problems stems from a Poor Secondary, and out of whack pass-run ratio and
Coach AR and staff getting out-coached/out schemed in the big games in recent years..
songs u can post for me today im so tired of this back whatevr the fo does or says bs
just sickening
i cant wait to talk to schill come december january
right now u guys are just as annoying as talking to banner or reid
yall sound just like a reid press conference
I noticed something from the picture of Kolb throwing.
I thought the nose of the football should be pointing at the ground after it leaves the qb’s hand. That’s what I’ve seen the last 11 years. Just couldn’t resist.
That’s true jphalines but we will certainly know what it’s like to see the ball hit the defender square in the chest. Sorry just couldn’t resist either
Schill, your answer to everything is..”nobody knows” – “wait and see”…What do we know?
This eagles organization have cheated it ‘s fans out of an opportunity to win a SB when the division was weak. We know that the defensive coach that was groomed to take “JJ’s” place went to the Giants and won a Superbowl, we know the player the Eagles passed on to trade down to get Kolb, stopped any chances of us going forward last year when we played the Cowboys and if we had him opposite of Cole, there would have been no need to trade up to grab Graham..leaving the Eagles space to draft a highly rated safety to replace the one they let go for absolutley nothing. We also know a team actually need receivers to win a Superbowl. We as fans are not stupid for we spoke on all the things that were ignored and are the reasons we are not contenders anymore. you stick with wait and see…I’ll respond with, there’s nothing worth waiting for if this team is not contending for a Superbowl.
Pman – your crazy – Gaither makes the team. I say sapp does too. Songs – you know that we’re not contending for a superbowl this season? That’s ridiculous – what if we get in the playoffs and then win games, then we win the superbowl. That’s possible. But you know better. We got more for the pick that we traded away for Kolb than just Kolb genius. And if Kolb works out…. then your point is moot. You’re saying that if we had Bradley and Jamal Jackson in those games that the reason we would loose is Spencer? Ha. Right. So you think I’m crazy for saying you don’t know what will happen this season? Ok. Whatever. AND PLEASE TELL ME HOW ANYTHING COULD POSSIBLY BE MORE PROFITABLE FOR THE EAGLES THAN WINNING THE SUPERBOWL! Please. Do so. The Eagles spend plenty of money. They aren’t perfect and they make mistakes. But they are NOT cheap.
schill, you said the Eagles have made mistakes……..can you name a few mistakes they’ve made? let’s hear them.
Ha. Nice try songs. If there’s one thing that almost all eagles fans can agree on is that anybody who can type can name countless errors or bad decisions by the eagles. So by asking for some, you’re clearly trying to set me up for some of your stupid antics. Every team makes mistakes you idiot
Songs, you just gave me a bunch of nothing to the point at hand. The point was that Kevin Kolb should get to the Super Bowl this year because Donovan McNabb would have been demanded the same thing. This team isn’t good enough to get there. You act like McNabb had no fault in the the failures of this franchise not getting a ring. He certainly did. Now that doesn’t excuse the front office but stop granting McNabb this dispensation.
McNabb is the greatest QB in this franchise’s history, and that certainly is part of the reason the Eagles don’t have a Superbowl.
Every team makes mistakes and every team has injuries which should not be used as excuses by homers.
TT..thats a great friggin line!..McNabb being the best qb of all time IS the single most relevant reason why the Eagles have never won a SB.. Great way too put it.
how bout jaws being the qb 9 yrs fing bum
and also bum as jimmy mac was here too please