Reports: Fisher Not Coming To Town To Be Next Eagles Defensive Coordinator

Sorry everybody who would like to see Fisher become the next Eagles defensive coordinator, it’s not likely to happen, according to Les Bowen of the Daily News and Reuben Frank of Comcast Sportsnet, who are both citing league sources.

Jeff McLane of the Inquirer and Bowen cite sources which deny a report by John Clayton of ESPN that Andy Reid has supposedly told other teams that the Birds had already filled their defensive coaching openings.

Fisher’s agent Marvin Demoff told Bowen that it’s “highly unlikely” that Fisher will become the Eagles defensive coordinator.

Rich Hofmann has a tough column about what the Eagles decision to remove Sean McDermott, Bill Shuey and Rory Segrest from the coaching staff. Hofmann identifies a major change of plans for the Birds who had promoted assistants already in the organization rather than go outside the organization to get football people, such as assistant coaches and player personnel people.

The Daily News columnist points out something which we have mentioned a number of times here on GCobb.com, that the Birds had assistant coaches with no legitimate resumes whatsoever.

Segrest had basically coached for some small college teams, then became the Eagles special teams coach.  Reid had promoted him to defensive line coach after he was a total failure as a special teams coach.

What had Shuey ever done to get the linebackers job?   Have you seen any improvement by any of the linebackers since Shuey became the linebackers coach?  Reid had brought in some good assistant coaches when he came to the Eagles, but for the most part he has failed to sign quality assistants to replace the good ones when they leave.

53 thoughts on “Reports: Fisher Not Coming To Town To Be Next Eagles Defensive Coordinator

  1. I dunno. Too many stories going on right now. I’ll wait and see. The Eagles have surprised us before (getting T.O./Asante/trading McNabb) etc. etc. — we will see in a couple days if there’s any truth.

  2. Kinda surprised that everybody is concerned about the defensive side coaches (legitimately), and no one is concerned about the offensive side, namely the O-line. Although I thik Juan is a very good coach, what still concerns me is the slow of development in the various players they have drafted.
    Justice, I believe became a better player in 2009, but reverted back to 2008 form. Mike Gibson was cut by the Eagles, and went to Seattle and was a very effective starting guard over there. MJG, Dunlap, King, Howard and just marginally better than when they first got here. Yet hardly a peep from anyone about this. Are they really less talented? The one guy they let go end up being a starter. Why no concern?

  3. If Sean McDermott can find work one day after being fired, so can Fisher. With that said, Fisher should have a job by the end of the day; so we’ll know one way or another if it’s with the Eagles.

  4. Fire Reid hire Fisher. he will atleast run the ball. Bear coach is stupid too. why would u not run Forte? Actually why would u have Cutler throw so many passes when he sucks. Forte ave 4.5 yds a carry and that idiot coach ran him like 16 times

  5. Actually, the more I think about this, the more I agree with G that there is no way Fisher comes here. Why would any winning coach (yes, I realize he hasn’t won the big one) want to take a step back and become a defensive coordinator? I’m starting to get sold on this guy Winston Moss. Seems like the type of guy who would put some fire into this defense, which has been lacking for years now.

  6. Cutler was 6-14 that is 42 passing % in first half .what was Bears plan to throw him another 14 times throw more interceptions,better target for Mathews, just wanted to not complete any passesd. Bears had to run to have ANY CHANCE coach failed. Reid does same. FIRE REID. hire anyone

  7. Tomlinson, Gruden, Saints coach. Either you have it or you don’t.

    This is not college football were a poll decides who the champion is. You have to play well against good teams for at least 3 weeks. This guy is Andy Reid’s cousin. Maintaining a program. Designed to win and keep your job.

    Andy Needs an assistant that has a burning desire to win. Someone who takes every lost personal. Vows to get better. Not an excuse machine.

    Most people don’t have what they want in life because they have not turned their SHOULDs in MUSTs.

    When winning a championship is a must, you won’t have someone the size of PEE WEE HERMAN as your go to guy. Not in the NFL. Don’t put words in my mouth. DJax has a place on the team. But we can’t live and die with this guy. He should be a bonus not the rule. Don’t try and force him. Let the game come to him. Sooner or later if you use all of your other weapons they will have to adjust and then you go to him. DJax is a star. He is not dominant. He could be if everybody stopped telling him how good he is, and tell him to work on his weaknesses. Gaining weight, muscle is not asking too much for a WR who said he wants to be paid as an elite athlete.

    The recent overhaul (the past 2 seasons) in the Philadelphia Eagles has signaled that the front office is not content with the current “GOLD Standard”. That is a good thing. Now each player and coach has to hold themselves accountable if they want to win a championship.

    Too many Philadelphia fans make excuses for this current head coach and his players. They say that when we critisize the team we are hurting it, or we are negative. I would suggest you read the children’s story of “the emperor’s new clothes”. A true friend is not the one who accepts you as you are. The guy at Mcdonald’s accepts you as you are. Because he does not give a crap about you. A true friend tells you that you do not have on a new suit. You are walking around naked.

    No team or person can fix all of their flaws. But the one who admits them then tries to fix as many as possible, wins the superbowl, and wins in life.

  8. how can we let a player go and he gets 12.5 sacks for Titans. is Babin a fluke? Does Reid not see his players’ potential . i mean Babin had 12.5 this year. only Eagles close to 10 is Cole with 10 Seems like Titans used him better than we did. Does Lurie and Banner understand this

  9. @Tydm…… I’m with you bro…… Fire Reid and hire fisher……….. We can get haynesworth…… We have Washburn…….. We give Vick 20-25 snaps per game and run the ball more often……… Get some big guys up front on the offensive side of things to block and I believe they ran a zone blocking scheme in Tennessee…….. It would be a game in which Fisher has great time consuming skills by running the clock with the ball in the Qb’s/Rb’s hands………

    JUST A THOUGHT………

  10. Lurie has to see this………. It’s something that you just cant sit on and wait…… Get Fisher asap……. I would tell Reid that we have to move elsewhere………. Fisher has been a great coach…….. He had great years with Mcnair, Ok years with Collins, and decent years with V. Young…… (Till Now LOL) Other than that he’s a coach who can win Ugly……… And win games impressively…….. GET FISHER I hope?????

  11. I wouldn’t want Fisher as the head coach. He’s basically got the same resume as Reid. Been with a team a long time with one Superbowl loss.

  12. All this talk about Reid not being able to get the job done and being mediocre, but you idiots want the KING OF MEDIOCRITY to replace him — lmao.

    Thank God Lurie doesn’t listen to the fans. 90 percent of them are idiots.

  13. From a couple of my Country Back-up Singers sources down at the Grand Ol Opry about the Fisher Firing..
    Owner Bud Adams was so pissed at how Fisher handled the V Young Fiasco that he decided to
    wait until all other HC Positions were filled before cutting the chord with Fisher..
    Per some of my Blonde singing gals, Since Owner Adams knew he was going to have to buy out
    Fisher for a big $$$, he would only do so in spoiling Fishers attempt in landing another HC Spot and
    Bud Adams real motivation was to ensure that Fisher did not become the next Dallas Cowboys HC
    for his Big Oil Friends in Texas would never let Adams hear the end of it…Big Ego’s invovled here..

  14. @Birdo…….. NO disrespect…….. Watching AR coach is like watching the Movie Friday…….. You know the lines of every character, and you know what happens at the end…….. With Fisher he had limited talent as a HC at Tennessee…….. He never had great Wide recievers……. Except for Ernest Givens and Haywood Jeffries……. Kenny Britt is the only talent he had at WR……… name somebody else…….. I’ll wait……(Katt Williams voice)……. Other than that a bunch of good Rb’s and Te’s…………. Why not give fisher a shot……. Do you know what he can do with the talent in Philly…… 90% are idiots……LOL……. Thats why we have a 10% chance of winning a superbowl with AR as coach………. COM ON…….

  15. We all know Mike Vick saved Reid’s job this season…….. If so and Fisher was on the market as HC everyone else would be saying (Eagle Fans)…… “Ohhhhhh lets get Fisher”, “He’s a proven HC”……. Or if Bill Cower was available which it took him 15yrs. to win a superbowl people would say….”Ahh man….. Bill Cower is available”……. “We should get him asap”……… Like Reid hasn’t sing us the same old tune every season……….

    People I know who aren’t eagle fans say…….. “Hey”….. “You guys made it easy for the other team……..”! “Why doesn’t your coach (Andy Reid) Run the ball”! “Why did he call that timeout so early in the game”?……….. The same old tune every season……….

  16. There’s no way you can want Jeff Fisher if you don’t want Andy Reid. You guys are just like the guy who leaves his wife for a woman who doesn’t look as good, didn’t have his children and he knows he can’t trust. He’s convinced she’s the one because she’s giving it up all the time. in order to get the no cut contract. If Reid isn’t the answer, you know Fisher isn’t it either. LOL

  17. Difference with Fisher and Reid is this::: Fisher has played in the tougher AFC when any year the PATS,Steelers,Colts would have beaten the NFC team. Reid had a better Defense(more pro bowlers) and better Qb mcnabb, Vick versus Kerry collins,mcnair,vince …..did Reid with better teams win more Super Bowls …no Fisher almost won his SB gave his teams over the years chance by running the ball stopping the run, and using players to best potential. Reid with better QB’S, Better Defense, better 0 -line …should i keep going? had Westbrook .I BET U FISHER WOULD HAVE HAD A 1 2 Punch by getting another awesome running back not sticking with the same when u know he is injury prone i’ll stop there ..actuaaly 1 more.. Andy record has alot of wins and maybe tthat is why Lurie holds on to him and some fans like him. They dont understand that Andy was for 10 years in a weak NFC , UP for grabs efvery year. if Andy coached Eagles from 84-94 is record would suck. can u imagine him playing the Super Bowl champion Giants(2),49ers(3),redskins(2),cowboys(3),Bears(1), can u imagine Andy with his throw happy philosophy and his (no LB) TO stop the run lol do u think he would have ran Hershel Walker, or Keith Byars or drafted Seth Joyner if Andy could not win 4 NFC (MAINLY cause he ran ball 12 times) or Packers this what would have Montana,Fridge,Lawrence Taylor,Jerry rice,Skins Hogs, do to him

  18. VIck saved AR Job.. that’s ridiculous,, Eagles came into 2010 as a rebuilding year no matter what anyone says… Trade away D McNabb, S Brown, Gocong,release veterans like D Howard, Andrews Sisters No matter what us fans think.. IF you told Lurie/Banner/Coach Ar that they would win the
    NFC East and finish 10-6, they all would have taken it in a heartbeat…
    Coach AR is signed thru 2013 and is not going anywhere folks and has at least 2 more Seasons
    to make a legitimate Super Bowl Run before getting fired…

  19. Remember Andy Reids record would be so different cause Super Bowl teams (alot were in our division) we played twice a year, and those years they did not win the SB they were still great

  20. Thank you GCOBB! We finally agree on something! I love my fellow Eagle brethren, but 90 percent of us are idiots — including myself at times. Fisher to take over for Reid, lmfao!

  21. Difference with Fisher and Reid is this::: Fisher has played in the tougher AFC when any year the PATS,Steelers,Colts would have beaten the NFC team. Reid had a better Defense(more pro bowlers) and better Qb mcnabb, Vick versus Kerry collins,mcnair,vince …..did Reid with better teams win more Super Bowls …no Fisher almost won his SB gave his teams over the years chance by running the ball stopping the run, and using players to best potential. Reid with better QB’S, Better Defense, better 0 -line …should i keep going? had Westbrook .I BET U FISHER WOULD HAVE HAD A 1 2 Punch by getting another awesome running back not sticking with the same when u know he is injury prone i’ll stop there ..actuaaly 1 more.. Andy record has alot of wins and maybe tthat is why Lurie holds on to him and some fans like him. They dont understand that Andy was for 10 years in a weak NFC , UP for grabs efvery year. if Andy coached Eagles from 84-94 is record would suck. can u imagine him playing the Super Bowl champion Giants(2),49ers(3),redskins(2),cowboys(3),Bears(1), can u imagine Andy with his throw happy philosophy and his (no LB) TO stop the run lol do u think he would have ran Hershel Walker, or Keith Byars or drafted Seth Joyner if Andy could not win 4 NFC (MAINLY cause he ran ball 12 times) or Packers this what would have Montana,Fridge,Lawrence Taylor,Jerry rice,Skins Hogs, do to him

  22. TYDM — your post is meaningless. For one, Fisher didn’t PLAY. He coached. There’s a difference. I hope you can understand this. Stop degrading the best coach in Eagles history and lets give him the next two years with THIS team to get the job done. Fisher to replace Reid, lmfao.

  23. some years he was again it is tough to contend when u play steelers twice and pat or colts once that is 3 games every year Andy had um um

  24. You’re comparing apples to oranges tydm. Your statements are idiotic…at BEST. Fisher is a good coach, a legit coach — but he’s not Andy Reid. Andy Reid is OUR coach. Get over it.

  25. best in history cause played weak NFC FOR 10 years the wins add up. think about it throw any year out there 1988 Bears were good,49ers awesome,giants very good,redskins awesome Reid played Vick’s Falcon team, Cutler led Bears team lol

  26. You use your opinion, I’ll use facts. And FACT is Jeff Fisher couldn’t get ANYTHING done with the best running back in football for the last couple of years. NOTHING. ZIP. NADA. And you want to place him on a mantle as if he’s Lombardi?

    What’s Chad Johnson always say? Oh yea…..CHILD PLEASE

  27. great rb but not good QB or Great D they had good D’s but not great. ANdy has more say who was on his team i think then Fisher i don’t agree just cause u have the best RB u should go to SB. Barry Sanders was not close but they did not have a great D either

  28. Once again, you continue to use your OPINION and I will use facts.

    Andy Reid has accomplished more in 12 years than Jeff Fisher did in 17. Accept it. Move on. I will hear someone’s argument if they say they want to replace Andy with Gruden — but I will NOT stand for a moron coming on here talking about Jeff Fisher should replace Andy Reid. Only an idiot would think that way but then again, I have to acknowledge who I’m “arguing” with here.

  29. if u are well if the last 25 Super Bowl teams did not run less than 28 times in there SB year or in the Super Bowl why did u run Westbrook who was ave 5.2 a carry that yr in Sb just 14 times. Why did u only run McCOY 12 TIMES when history shows Super Bowls winners run the ball. Andy if u did run the ball u probally would still lose because in 10 years u did not have philiosophy to stop the run

  30. *******************************************7 ways to beat andy reid********************************************

    1999- Rookie season as HC………. Clean Resume……………..
    2000- Did pretty decent……. Young mcnabb as a starter at Qb………
    2001- No solid weapons on offense but had a great defense and defensive coach to back him up!!!!
    2002- No solid weapons on offense but had a great defense and defensive coach to back him up!!!!
    2003- No solid weapons on offense but had a great defense and defensive coach to back him up!!!!
    2004- Great offense……. Good defense…….. This was suppose to be our season……. Got Jevon Kearse and Terrel Owens……….. Made it to the SB……. WOOOOOOOOOO! Came up short!!!
    2005- Lot of turmoil with T.O. and where things were heading with him and his contract………
    2006- Reid loved the 2004 season soooo sooo much got pass happy and forgot about the west coast offense……….. Forgot about the 3headed monster!!!!!!!
    2007- Look at film on the 2004, 2005, 2006 season on how reid is so pass happy other teams start to figure things out!!!!!!!
    2008- Study film on 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 season on how reid is so pass happy and other teams start to figure things out!!!!!!
    2009- Look at film from 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008 season on how reid is so pass happy and other teams start to figure things out!!!!!!!!
    2010- Look at film from 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 season on how reid is so pass happy and other teams start to figure things out!!!!!!!
    This season hurt just as much as 2004 season with our superbowl run………

    I’ll give Reid the benefit of the doubt the first 5 seasons……… But com on ……… Are some of our loyal fans in which I am……. Are some of yall sick of this?????? Atleast Fisher switches things up or is perhaps more balanced as HC…….

  31. TYDM, you’re like a guy at the local bar that screams “VICK HAS NO DEFENSE, HE’S GETTING MURDERED!” — when in reality you meant “Vick has no PROTECTION”.

  32. Jroc — I’m not sick of it. We traded away our franchise QB and multiple players. Pretty much revamped the offense. This past season was a suprise for me. I really didn’t expect us to get BLOWN OUT, but I didn’t expect us to win many games. It was a “re-tooling” year remember.

    If it was so easy to stop Reid and his team, teams would do it every week of every year. Reid’s problem is his OWN mind. He needs to stop trying to outsmart everyone and just coach his game. He gets a stick up his rear end in championship games much like Joe Paterno. He needs to relax and go with what got him to that point.

  33. The Eagles defense has been good enough to atleast win 1 superbowl……. Just 1………. Now you have to look at your current HC to see where the problem is coming from……… Reid is a good coach….. I’ll give him that……. It’s how he prepares for the BIG GAMES……..

  34. Coaches get fired all the time with time left on their contract.

    If Reid does not do something next season, the he will join McPuppet, Heckert, Strength coach, LB coach, DL coach, McDermott, DB coach, S Brown, Westbrook, Special teams coach, and all the other excuses that have been shipped out of town the past 2 seasons.

    The Eagles are going to hire a quality defensive coordinator and keep moving in the direction they started last year, and that’s toward ending the Andy Reid era. Half the players and coaching staff is gone in just 2 seasons. “The 400” is on the way out.

    If they can fire Tom Landry any coach can be let go. There are a bunch of ex-superbowl winners unemployed right now. Brian Belick, Gruden, Cowher.

    The time will be his. Real soon.

    I just want them to give him the traditional “vote of confidence” before the fire him.

    That’s always good for a laugh.

    Good ridens to…

    Projection Guy – he spent his entire career playing one position but we are going change it. Other teams do it. One day we’ll be good at it too. We just have to keep trying.

    Torn ACL guy – we will spent a valuable draft pick on him. he will be the steal of the draft. we are so smart.

    Little guy – Even though the Steelers have won more superbowls than anybody else drafting NFL sized players, we are going to draft little guy. He can’t play well in the winter time and wears down but we are so smart.

    Versital guy – He can play all 3 positions on the line. He’s not good at any of them, buy hey, he’s versital.

    Nice guy – He is a model citizen. He does not posses a mean streak and won’t knock your block off. Everybody wants to meet him in a back alley because he will give you the shirt off his back. He intimidates no one who comes across the middle.

  35. @Birdo…… Yea I know its a “re-tooling” season…….. But would our season be a “re-tooling” season with number 4 as our starter! (Not being smart)………. With reid passing so much he doesnt give a young Qb a proper adjustment to grasp the scheme of a defense……. He sees a terrible offensive line and expects a Qb to throw 50 times in a game……… Mike Vick didnt play in 3 seasons and AR made him throw more than 35-45 times but when Vick didnt have anyone open he had to run…….. With Vick’s 700 yards rushing and mcCoys 1000 rushing we would be a 1000 yard rushing team……. LOL……. WHich is sad…… Who else carried the ball other than McCoy and Vick??????? Sure wasnt Harrison???? We lost Weaver 1st game of the season………. AR is terrible with making adjustments…….. SWITCH IT UP……… GO EAGLES

  36. Now they are looking at a bum who played for Iowa who didnt play a season in the NFL as a tackle…….. Why not draft a guy in the early rounds or just trade for someone who has proven themselves……… You want a guy who can protect your Qb if you like to pass so often…….. Other than that the Qb is going to get his head knocked off…….. We seen that on the wildcard game 1st snap of the ball game and Vick gets killed from behind……… Need I say more……….

  37. LOL you cats are hilarious! Fisher over Reid, give me a break! When you compare the success of the two there is no contest! I’m not saying Fisher is a bad coach in anyway, but going from Reid to Fisher is not an upgrade…In recent seasons, the best part of the Titans offense has been the RB…so much so that they ae a run first team, because lets be honest, Fisher never had confidence in his QB (Young) young had games where he only attempted 16 passes…Lets be honest, in the Eagles offense that will not get it done!!!!!!!
    Vick is a mobile QB, that alone will take possessions away from the RB…I’ve said this all season long, with the Eagles O line being so inconsistent, how can you expect Reid to have faith in the run? Yes, Reid needs to mix it up. But it is as simple as McCoy needs to get more touches. It does not have to be just from handoffs. To much is spent on Reid not running the ball, he’s had two of the top mobile QB’s in the NFL in recent history…Lets not forget Vick’s presence played a big part in why McCoy was able to break some of those runs (McCoy’s elusiveness and talents had something to do as well not trying to sell the man short) But Vick had more of an impact than the O line did in regards to running the ball success on certain occasions….

  38. What up REALTALK777……… i understand where your coming from…….. But look at reid’s recent decline in the playoffs………. He went from getting to atleast the NFC championship games to not even winning the first round of the playoffs…….. Does that make you wonder???? It bothers me to see his decline for the past two seasons and how we got beat by dallas like a 1000 MEXICANS with 1 Pinata……. It’s like a country losing hope with there current leader……..

    They say the older you get you start to lose it………. maybe AR is now the Muhammad Ali when everyone saw him losing his speech and told him he should have retired years before…….. Andy Reid is a good coach but not great……… He re-modeled this franchise and put dents in it at the same time………. I wish this Franchise was like the STATE FARM COMMERCIAL…….. “Like a good Neighbor State Farm Is There” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

  39. Fisher over Reid easy.. Fisher had to go up against Ravens,Steelers,Colts, Patriots.. Reid had to go against bad Cowboy,Redskin, Giant teams

  40. Remember Belichik after the Super Bowl “alot of times during the game, we had know idea what they were thinking” yeah Reid is wonderful

  41. tydm — why do you come here? And why do you keep going back to that reference? Can’t you see that NO ONE agrees with you? It’s trash what you are spewing.

  42. After hearin the Fisher press conference I change my stance – He is a defeated man right now -. I thought he would be a pissed off coach and been a good DC. He sounds like a man who lost everything.

    I wonder if the Titans owner waited this long just to ensure that all the HC jobs were taken so he could deny the guy an opportunity to coach for someone else for a year.

  43. Coach Fisher has an excellent record vs the NFC overall and in particular the NFC East
    I believe he has the highest Winning % versus the NFC East out of any Coach from the NFC
    (Including Cowher,Dungy and Belichek)

  44. Good research Paulman!! i am not a bog Fisher fan but he is better than Reid. HE GIVES his team a chance by running the ball. We beat Packers this yr and Patriots in Super Bowl if we run the ball more than 12 times. Fisher had to play 5 tough teams every year probally more and Reid had 1

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