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Thaddeus Young Wants Multi-Year Deal, While Iggy Is On Trading Block

Trade news involving the 76ers is beginning to heat up.

Last night SI.com’s Sam Amick reported of two possible trade scenarios involving Sixers forward Andre Iguodala. One had the small forward being shipped to the Lakers for forwards Lamar Odom (expiring contract) and Ron Artest (three years remaining). The second an definitely the more beneficial of the two has Iguodala going to the Minnesota Timberwolves for the #2 overall pick and possibly a player, the names mentioned were Martell Webster, Johnny Flynn or Anthony Randolph. Wes Johnson could be a possibility but would probably require the Sixers 16th pick.

First and foremost, the Sixers need to slam the door on the Odom/Artest deal. If Iggy is dealt to Minnesota for the #2 pick and any player not named Wesley Johnson they can go after the big man that they need in Enes Kanter, or Jonas Valanciunas and still grab a player like Jordan Hamilton with the 16th pick or possibly trade it for a proven shooter. Could your 16th pick still land Monta Ellis?

Ok, maybe I’m reaching there. I would check with Cleveland to see if they still want the #2 pick provided Iggy is traded and swap the #4 and see if J.J. Hickson is available and take Kanter at #16. The Cavs want Arizona forward Derrick Williams and he would be theirs with that scenario. The #2 pick opens up a world of possibilities for a team that is on the upswing.

I’m trusting Rod Thorn on this one…

Yesterday the Sixers offered qualifying offers as expected to Spencer Hawes and forward Thaddeus Young was on ESPN The Fanatic 97.5 with Harry Mayes and Brian Baldinger and was asked what would his stance be if another team came with a better offer than the Sixers?

Young responded, “If I get a better offer from another team, the Sixers will either have to match or come better. That’s the only way it’ll work out.” Young continued, “Hopefully it works out to where I’m back on the team…” One NBA coach who is high on Young is the New Jersey Nets Avery Johnson who said, “Thaddeus Young is the MVP of that team.”

I don’t see the Sixers allowing Young to walk. Collins would give up some of his own coin to keep Young here if it was possible – that’s how much he admires him. For now, I won’t read too much it. It will become an uncomfortable situation if there is a matching offer and the front office drags their feet. The Sixers realize that the fans are starting to come back and the last thing they want to do is wreck this young core.

Ron Glover

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Zukny
June 23, 2011 7:49 am

I’m hoping the sixers land Jonas Simply because- he is Lithuanian! My fiance is lithuanian and that would mean MUCH MORE games that I can goto lol

gw.fisher
June 23, 2011 7:58 am

Enes Kanter will go top 5, so getting him at 16 would indeed be a reach. But Iggy for #2 is fine with me…

DDCar
DDCar
June 23, 2011 8:14 am

NOOOO!!!! to the LAKERS & ORLANDO offers.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 10:02 am

Reports are pointing to the sixers being offered the #2 pick, this would be two years in a row we have this valuable pick. They cant blow this. Iggy is a good player to the rest of the league. The twolves view him as a starting impact player that they need. They already have kevin love in place so they dont need a derek williams at PF they need a player like iggy to start for them. Make the deal so we can Draft williams or my personal favorite Enes Kanter who is a future frachise Center and will most likely be in this league for another 10-15 years…

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
June 23, 2011 10:11 am

I’m down to trade Iggy for the #2 and pick up Enes.

PG: Jrue
SG: Lou Will/Jodie Meeks
SG: Thad Young
PF: Elton Brand
C: Enes Kanter

Off the bench: Either Lou Will or Jodie, Evan Turner, Hawes, Speights, and whoever our 16th pick is. I’m down, lets go. Start the season.

RonGlover
June 23, 2011 10:15 am

If they get #2 and take Williams, provided they keep #16 do you package that with #50 and try to move up a couple of spots to get a big, take Jordan Hamilton or another shooter?

eagles4life
eagles4life
June 23, 2011 11:49 am

if they trade iggy for odom, i will never root for the sixers again. and as far for thad young, he is so overrated it’s insane. people drule over him, but he isn’t that good. where was he last year?

schiller
schiller
June 23, 2011 12:04 pm

Eagles – why the Odom hate? He’s a big and can play. We need one. Also an expiring contract?

And if you don’t see the Thad upside….um… you know the ball is suppossed to go in the net right?

eagles4life
eagles4life
June 23, 2011 12:18 pm

good for him, 13 PPG… real impressive dood. but i would rather have a draft pick than lamar. that is a bad trade… lamar isn’t the most physical guy in the league… the dood is skinnier than me

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 12:32 pm

Ron, you like Hamilton? Alec burke, klay thompson are good shooters and play SG. We need one, a true scorer. Give me one of those guys at 16 after we trade iggy for the #2 pick and get Enes Kanter or Derek Williams…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 12:36 pm

I agree eagles4life… They better not trade iggy for odom, that would be foolishness… get the high pick number 2 overall and then theyd be in a position to make some serious franchise altering moves…

RonGlover
June 23, 2011 12:56 pm

John, its not that I’m crazy over him as much as I think the Sixers might take him. I’m all in for a shooting guard period. No more tweeters.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
June 23, 2011 3:43 pm

I don’t like trading Iggy for Odom. But I do like trading him for a high pick. We need something in return. I know people look at the salary dump and think it’s a good idea but that’s only a good idea with one huge assumption: that a big free agent would actually want to come here. We can dump Iggy’s contract all we want but if a star players doesn’t want to come to Philly then it doesn’t matter. Best thing to do is trade Iggy for a top pick or a good player (like the Montae Ellis rumors).

Some other teams see Iggy as a good player when combined with a good player they already have. And that’s exactly what he is. He’s not the guy to be the top player on your team. And unfortunately his salary brought those expectations on him even though it’s not his fault the sixers overpaid. But if you put him on the floor with Kobe, Gasol and Bynum, he’d be alright. Won’t have the spotlight on him to carry the team and he can play how he likes to play: defense and transition basketball. So him going to the Lakers I think would be a very good move for him but I don’t like it for the sixers. I like Odom but dumping his salary after the 1 year doesn’t mean you’re going to get a good player when you have money to spend and then you basically gave Iggy away for a 1 year rental when you possibly could flip him into a top pick.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
June 23, 2011 3:50 pm

Thad is a player and has a tremendous work ethic. He’s also the unquestioned leader of this young team.

Need a recent example? Go back to the playoffs when a Heat player pushed the rookie Evan Turner and got up in his face — who came to the rescue? That’s right, Thad Young. Sending the message that you’re not gonna intimidate his boys.

I love Thad. He needs to work on that jumper a bit, but his athleticism and all out effort makes up for it.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
June 23, 2011 3:54 pm

I’m all for trading Iggy for a good player of need or top pick but the Thaddeus Young talk is so overdone. I know he’s young and has “potential” but he’s nothing special. But he can’t play D worth a lick and rebounding is non-existent. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t dislike him but I surely don’t think this budding star like many people seem to think he is. He might be but he’s too inconsistent for me to trust him. And people act like he has to start to be good. Some of the best players in the league are off the bench and the 6th man is the key to championship teams. From Odom to Jason Terry to Ginobili. So I don’t wanna hear the crap acting like Young has to be a starter. Then we’ll all be upset if the sixers overpay him and he doesn’t perform.

schiller
schiller
June 23, 2011 3:55 pm

Scorp, I think you make good points. But if trading Iggy for a high pick is nothing more than a pipe dream (and as of now, the only legs behind it are a rumor on SI.com, per Ron Glover), then would getting Odom for Iggy be better than keeping Iggy and doing nothing with him? THAT is the real question here.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
June 23, 2011 4:05 pm

Unquestioned leader? Come on now. That’s exactly what I mean when people overstate what he does. He’s a good player but unquestioned leader? No. In the second half of this year Holiday and Elton Brand were the true leaders of the team. People looked for Lou Williams more the Young. And because he had a teammates back makes him a leader? That makes no sense. When Haslem got into the scuffle with Stevenson in the finals, Chalmers ran up and got into Stevenson’s face and that certainly does not make him the leader. Just someone who has his teammates back. Please don’t over exaggerate Young’s role. He’s a good player but unquestioned leader is just silly.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
June 23, 2011 4:07 pm

schiller, I agree. I’m just saying if that was the choice that’s what I would do. I really don’t like the Odom deal because it would only be 1 year and then after that, it’s not guaranteed to even make use of the extra money for a good player. So I would look elsewhere for a trade. Just my thoughts.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
June 23, 2011 4:09 pm

I’m just not sure players really want to play to Philly. It’s like we either have to draft a player or trade for one. Not sure FAs like Dwight Howard, Chris Paul care too much about Philly. But obviously, it’s still good to have the money available. As long as we have the core of the team straight, I’m cool though. I was really hoping for Montae Ellis LOL.

schiller
schiller
June 23, 2011 4:14 pm

scrop – if the sixers draft a pure shooting guard at 16, and he actually pans out as a shooter of course, would that satisfy your desire for Ellis? Then we could try to get a serviceable big for Iggy. I personally equate Odom to Ellis (obviously different players, but in terms of compensation for Iggy). I think getting Iggy off the team helps in more ways than just his contract burden…

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
June 23, 2011 4:25 pm

Sure if it was possible to get a pure shooting guard at 16 who can actually contribute. But that’s a very hard thing to do. I mean we had the 2nd pick last year and not sure which way that’s going to go. I would def take a serviceable big man that can rebound and and play defense for Iggy. No doubt about that. It might help in more ways. Again, I’m not opposed for getting rid of him but not for peanuts that’s what I’m not for. Hopefully we get defense from somewhere though. Getting rid of him, we definitely lose the flexibility of having a perimeter defender that can play SGs and SFs. But besides a salary dump, what else does the team gain? I mean I’m not saying we don’t gain anything else, just wondering what your thoughts were. Only people that will think we don’t gain anything are the fans….. the same fickle fans like the Eagles fans.

ghostofcunningham
ghostofcunningham
June 23, 2011 4:29 pm

Love how this website gets breaking philly news and there is no mention of the carter and richards trades

schiller
schiller
June 23, 2011 4:32 pm

ghostof- that’s because hockey sucks and doens’t interest most people most of the time.

schiller
schiller
June 23, 2011 4:35 pm

scorp – I was specifically alluding to ‘addition by subtraction’ in terms of the on-court chemestry. I think Iggy’s minutes being freed up will significantly increase the liklihood of Thad and Evan Turner (at the very least) developing more and expanding their games. I think it will also help Lou Will, Jrue, and Meeks in the same way….(the arguement could be made for others too).

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
June 23, 2011 4:43 pm

schiller, I got you. I agree those things can happen which may benefit more for the long run. But you can also lose things like defense and transition offense. So we will have to see which the greater good. I’m all for trading him only if we get something good in return. That’s my only point. But I feel you though.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
June 23, 2011 4:44 pm

What’s hockey?

RonGlover
June 23, 2011 4:50 pm

, I was asked to cover basketball here, there are guys that do hockey here. I’m just not that guy.

schiller
schiller
June 23, 2011 4:57 pm

scorp – yeah, we’re pretty much on the same page. I was thinking about the potential defense loss earlier today – but what reassures me is that Collins definitely values D and seems like he can coach it, maybe even create it if he doesn’t have naturally D inclinded guys to work with. I think Iggy’s D is underrated, but not incredibly irreplaceable. It’s a relatively doable task for a master like Collins.

I however, disagree with transition O, I think Thad, Brand, and co can more than handle that. Sure Iggy’s a prolific Dunker etc…. but that’s nothing unique or that we’d be lacking without Iggy… in my opinion.

RonGlover
June 23, 2011 5:26 pm

I’ve seen Thad guard threes and fours this season, he’s held his own in doing both. Scorp, one of the reasons I’m not crazy about Odom coming here is because he may not want to come here and the last thing I want is a guy coming half-assed with a group of young players that are feeling good about their future right now. As far as trading Iggy, we lose a perimeter defender and I believe that we can find another. What we have to remember is that these are pieces that can really contribute when Turne, Young and Holiday enter their primes. I’m okay with that

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 6:21 pm

I agree Ron, iggys no HOF that can’t be replaced. He gota go… but for the right price, not a odom who is situated in LA and won’t wanna finish his career here under any circumstances so that’s not gonna happen… I hear the 6ers r really working the phone which is normal… hopefully to trade iggy and stiff speights… if brand can go to then clean house…

vricchini
vricchini
June 23, 2011 6:27 pm

Well if there was gonna be a trade it would have happened by now so with the 16th pick the philadelphia 76ers select….

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 6:50 pm

If this guy is there at 16 I want the 6ers to snatch um… and its Marshon Brooks. He has alil kobe in him, he put up big numbers against ND and others. A lil on the selfish side… ball hoggerish but I ll take that over a player with the ability but won’t take advantage of it (iggy)… He’s my real sleeper for this draft and may end up being a superstar in years to come…

RonGlover
June 23, 2011 6:52 pm

Not really true V, it may have gone down but they’re saving it for the draft, more dramatic.

pheags88
pheags88
June 23, 2011 7:43 pm

It looks like all those rumors were basically just rumors…what a bummer…I would love to see Iggy go for the 2nd pick in the draft…

If Im the sixers Im taking that 16th pick and trading it to someone for hopefully a high lottery pick next year. OR I’m taking Kemba if he is there. I dont care if he is short the guy can flat out play and from what everyone on espn is saying is that Kemba might be there. I dont care if we dont need that position either, we could probably trade him for a big in a year or 2 anyway. The last thing we need is an undersized “big” who isn’t going to make a difference at that 16th pick. We have had plenty of those and it hasn’t gotten the sixers anywhere

vricchini
vricchini
June 23, 2011 8:29 pm

Im hoping donatas motiejunas is still there at 16 last year we was projected at 3-5 and looks great on youtube Lol…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 8:50 pm

What if the better Morris twin would be there? Ugh that would be tough to pass up…. I was hoping too that the sixers would have traded iggy for that #2 overall… But whats holding it up is that the twolves are firing there current coach kurt rambis and hes the one thats in love with Iggy but the GM is in control and making all the decisions… It really sucks for us right now but lets hope something positive comes out of this…

RonGlover
June 23, 2011 9:09 pm

With the Vucevic selection, I think that Iggy/Ellis deal still has some life to it.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 9:19 pm

Ron, warriors said there not dealing ellis… im trying to think positively bc the sixers have been rather good lately with their recent picks… i dont know much about this USC guy… i gotta research him…

schiller
schiller
June 23, 2011 9:20 pm

Ron, interesting… did you see them talking to Marc Jasckson on ESPN and when they asked him (not about iggy, but just about maybe trading Ellis) he was stone cold, gave a stiff NON answer. That to me means that he was instructed to leave the door wide open. That would be cool geting Vuc (yes, I’m starting the “lets give him the same nickname as a certain Phils assistant coach” campaign) and Ellis for this offseason. I’d call it a successful (on potential/excitement) offseason.

schiller
schiller
June 23, 2011 9:21 pm

And Jon Hart – come on man, you really bought that bogus rumor? You let it play you like that? What would be your limit? Would you have bought into a roomer like Iggy for Derick Rose!?

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 9:39 pm

Marshon brooks, is a player that i would love for the 6ers to draft, a flat out scorer, has a lil ball hog in him, has alil kobe in him too. Hes probably going in the first round soon but would be a very good pick. 6’5 200pounds… Maybe the sixers could trade back into the first round… speights maybe?…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 9:41 pm

Twolves made out like bandits… ugh, they got both guys i know the sixers wanted… who is this usc guy? Im hearing hes very soft, doesnt like contact, can shoot the roc tho…

RonGlover
June 23, 2011 9:43 pm

I saw the non answer, I feel this or some other trade is going to happen because the scorer issue remains unresolved. As far as Vucevic, I’m ok with it, he’s a true center and can score and rebound, didn’t hear much about him as a defender but we’ll see. They couldn’t have done much worse. Alot of guys are slipping I think the Sixers take the #50 pick and one next season and look to move up.

RonGlover
June 23, 2011 9:46 pm

The Sixers should offer #50 and a pick from next year to Denver for Kenneth Faried.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 10:01 pm

Marshon Brooks can ball… we needed a scorer like that. This is ridiculous… boston got a future star

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 10:05 pm

See the nets made the trade for Marshon Brooks, thats what we should have did

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 10:07 pm

That was a big mistake, im furious!

paulman
paulman
June 23, 2011 10:13 pm

I think Faired will have longer and more productive Career in teh NBA than the Sixer pick Jucervic..

pheags88
pheags88
June 23, 2011 10:31 pm

Atleast we didn’t trade for someone named METTA WORLD PEACE

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 23, 2011 10:34 pm

Faired is a player that every team would want but we were in need of a center… this guy we drafted avg 17pts and 10 boards a game… he does everything good. Just lacks athleticism..