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Report: Brandon Graham Had Microfracture Surgery On His Knee

I expected the Eagles to be aggressive about pursuing a defensive end to start in place of second-year first round pick Brandon Graham, while he recovers from knee surgery. But now we find out that identifying and signing a new starting defensive end may be much more important than that.

AnnArbor.com has reported that Graham didn’t have a regular surgery on his knee, he had microfracture surgery, which has been inconsistent and unreliable when it comes to enabling players to recover and return to their previous playing form.

If you want an example of how unreliable microfracture surgery is, take a look at former Eagles second round draft pick Victor Abiamiri. He had microfracture surgery a couple of years ago and he’s still listed on the Eagles Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform List. His inability to return to action is one of the reasons Graham was drafted in the first place.

The former Michigan Wolverine was interviewed while playing a golf outing in Michigan which was given by Jalen Rose of Fab Five and NBA Fame. You can tell by Graham’s comments, that he’s facing quite a challenge in returning to action and he sounded a bit frustrated in his answers to questions about his ailing knee.

“This is my first serious injury, so I’m challenging myself with how I’m going to come back,” Graham said. “Now that I can move around better, I do more and get out. Went to the movies this weekend. Couldn’t do much before, just stayed in the house and iced the knee every day.”

“I am not doing interviews with nobody until I’m back on the field. Everybody needs to worry about this lockout if anything. I got this!!”

The knowledge of Graham’s microfracture surgery leads me to believe that the Eagles will be extremely aggressive about signing a talented defensive end during free agency. There’s no way that the Birds can feel confident about Graham’s return, when they see the problems experienced by Abiamiri.

In my eyes former Eagles defensive end Jason Babin’s stock has risen immensely. I see the Eagles signing him to take over at the defensive end spot opposite Trent Cole. Babin played for the Eagles a couple of years ago and he had the best season of his career last year in Tennessee under the guidance of new Eagles defensive line coach Jim Washburn.

Babin totaled 12.5 sacks and a trip to the Pro Bowl.

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Rocko
Rocko
July 14, 2011 6:22 am

Hate to say it but this might be another AR “High Motor” 1st round bust…Times Yours…

E-money
E-money
July 14, 2011 8:40 am

This is not good news, I was really hoping for some productivity from Graham this season. Even when healthy last year Graham was not productive. This team has not had a whole lot of luck drafting defensive linemen in the early rounds.

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 9:48 am

I’m not sure if he’s a bust yet. But we absolutely have to sign a DE in FA and not some Andre Carter, ND Kalu signing. Jason Babin is too olsd and only had one good year. Plus he is too small to play the left side (yeah I know he did last year and I’d like to see his stats against the run). I don’t trust Babin and think he can easily be another Juqua Parker more so than a stand out pass rusher. Charles Johnson or Ray Edwards is the only way to go in my opinion.

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 9:57 am

Graham will be out for the entire 2011 Season (which I expected and stated a few times on here) He suffered that serious Knee injury last December and it takes a good 10-12-14 Months to recover from it so he will spend the year re-habbing and hopefully be 100$ by next off-season and be ready for the 2012 Season..
Safety Nate Allen also suffered a knee injury last December but he was not as severe but I do expect him to be on the PUP list and miss the first 4-5 weeks of the Season so the Safety position may be a question ??? to start the season.. Looks for Coleman and Marlin Jackson to be the starting tandem as Allen rehabs and 2nd Round Draft Pick Jarrett still has the learn the system (Having this lockout has really hurt this Safety position where young players like Jarret/Coleman/Jackson/Allen/Adams/Wall could have really used this off-season to learn and improve..
A weak DE postion and a very inexperienced Safety tandem does not bode well for stopping too many offenses..Could be a long season again for this Defense..

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 9:59 am

I made some predictions for free agency last night and I’ll pit them out just for fun and conversation. This is the NFC East only.

Skins-surprise everyone and crush Eagles fans when they are able to trade Fat Al to Jacksonville for a third round pick. Then they pick up Abrayu Franklin AND Cullen Jenkins for their line. Their D will be very tough but their offense still stinks. 6-10.

Cowboys-The Boys are broke and have to some big time restructuirng to do. They will raise some eyebrows with some guys they may cut. They make a small splash with Michael Huff and Carlos Rodgers. They take a chance and sign Kris Jenkins on the cheap and move Ratliff back to DE. They are going to be desperate. 9-7.

Eagles-sign Charles Johnson and settle for Ike Taylor as a solid physical presence and Sheldon Brown replacement. They sign Bradley and stay with Fokou and Chaney as other starters. The D is a little better but not significantly. The Eagles get good pressure and finish near top in take aways but lack of size on the line, talent at LB and inexperience at FS sees them get gouged often against the run and ends their playoff run early. 10-6

NYG-They focus on resigning their own guys. Bradshaw, Boss, and Smith. They save some money not resigning Kiwi and spend it on Pozluzny to fill their biggest hole. Amukamara is DROY and the Giants have best D in NFC. They go at least to NFCC. Sorry. I don’t like it either. 12-4

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 10:06 am

That was supposed to read inexperience at Safety NOT FS. They will essentially be starting two rookies since Nate Allen hasn’t even reached 16 professional starts yet. On a brighter note the Birds will register 50+ sacks and lead the league in picks with Assante grabbing 10 and Nate Allen six in ten games.

vricchini
vricchini
July 14, 2011 10:08 am

I will give him one more year to produce. I was extremely disappointed with this pick by the eagles and got blasted for it while everyone was celebrating their new Pro Bowl DE. Its not totally his fault because he was picked way early over some very talented college players that were available.

vricchini
vricchini
July 14, 2011 10:12 am

Charles Johnson and Ike Taylor would be a blessing.

dsm841
dsm841
July 14, 2011 10:19 am

Brandon Graham was a stud in college, and pretty much outproduced every other DE. The pick doesnt need much justification considering we got a FS just as good as earl thomas in the second. I think this microfracture is not going to be as bad as everyone believes. Its not as though he had a bone on bone condition where he went to see a doctor and they said microfracture is your only option. He tore his ACL, which itself is a big injury but recoverable, and during the cleanup noticed the problem. One reporter said “That the problem wasn’t likely discovered until he underwent ACL surgery suggests that Graham was feeling minimal effects, meaning he probably had minimal damage.” Which is extremely logical. Abiamiri had knee problems and the surgery was necessary, which is the complete opposite of BG. Granted I dont think BG will be extremely effective this year but he will play. Colston has had microfracture on both knees and hasnt missed time if at all, Reggie Bush also had microfracture. Its all a case by case basis and no rash generalizations should be made because VA hasnt been able to come back from his.

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 10:28 am

All reports in Charlotte is that Panthers are going to re-sign DE Charles Johnson, OL R Kalil and RB Deangelo Williams with long-term deals…

I still say the Eagles check out DE Mathais Kiwanuka from the Giants..
If heathly (coming off a neck injury from last year) he and Cole could make a very solid Pass-Rushing tandem from the DE positions ..

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 10:34 am

To Dsm841
Are you saying that 2nd Round Pick Safety J Jarret for the Eagles, (who most Draft Observors thought went 1 to 2 rounds too high to begin with) is comparable to Safety Earl Thomas who most NFL Observors see as a potential 10 Year All-Pro… Did you go to Temple..

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 10:43 am

paulman he was referring to Nate Allen

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 10:46 am

Paulman I don’t think Charles Johnson is a lock for Carolina. He’s not franchised. If you were a 25 yo kid coming into your prime would you rather play for a 1-15 team that is rebuilding or play for a team that could win the SB in the next three years WITH Mike Vick and Trent Cole on the other side?

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 11:02 am

Another issue on defense is this. First, I think we all think Stew will return to 2008 PB potential form. That’s far from a lock. Second, I think we are expecting far too much from Chaney and Dixon based on a small body of work. Don’t be surprised if they turn out to be very average. And we need to quit thinking Washburn can turn water into wine with all the bums on this D line and Trent Cole being a pass rusher that is very over rated by Eagle fans. He is never going to be a 15 sack guy. He’s a nice 10-12 sack player that works hard but fades down the stretch and is shut down by good LTs.

dsm841
dsm841
July 14, 2011 11:09 am

paulman your dumb, plain and simple. Why would I say we got a player just as good in the second round but refer to a draft a year later. And no I did not go to Temple, proud PSU alum. But you in fact probably went to a school much inferior to temple to make an assumption that a guy who hadnt played a down in the NFL will be a perrenial 10 year all-pro. You do realize there is no one in the NFL that is a 10 year-perrenial All-Pro? No not brady, manning, ed reed, polamalu. Do you just let crap flow out of your mouth and make absurd statements in an effort to prove your weak arguements. Think then write, not the other way around. Paulman you just make blanket statements that literally make no sense, such as Marlin Jackson is going to be one of our starting safeties. It seems completely logical to start a guy coming off 2 torn acls with no football experience in the past 2 years to start over your safety of the future (jarrett). Keep up the good work though!!!!!

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 11:21 am

Or be an intergal part of the team that’s rebuilding with lots of young talent
QB C Newton, RB’s D WIlliams, J Stewart, M Goodson still have a good O/Line in R Kalil,J Gross and J Otah (who missed all last season)
He’s from Georgia and is the best DL on the Panthers Team and with new HC R Rivera being a Defensive, it’s very unlikely they are going to let this kid go..He will be the centerpiece that they build this DL around with..
Panthers have a lot of talent though things fell apart last year, they get a couple of breaks and some of the young players step up and improve, they can win 6-8 Games but they play in the toughest division in Football with 3 good opponents to play twice each in the Falcons,Saints and Bucs..

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 11:33 am

It figures your an PSU Alum with a head a hard as a rock as the granite up in State College

Who starts the Season at Safety…
J Jarrett who is not even signed and hasn’t had 1 workout with the Team yet
N Allen who is coming off Knee injury and SUrgery from 7 months ago

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 11:52 am

Paulman point taken. If not we need to go with Ray Edwards. He gets far too much taken away from playing with Jared Allen and the Williams Wall. He is a tremendous run stuffer in his own right. And although I couldn’t stand the guy, we haven’t had a good run stuffing LDE since Brandon Whiting. Nothing personal its just that the guy was an absolutely useless pass rusher. And when we talk about Jared Allen, um don’t we have a top ten DE here too? Yes I know I just said Cole is over rated because he isn’t in the same class with Freeney, Allen and Peppers (although our FO and Dave Spadaro would really desperately like to believe he is) and we act like he is. A lot of his numbers are against bad teams and average LTs. How many sacks does he have against Dall and NYG in his career? How many in the post season? But he’s STILL not chopped liver. So that helps Edwards be an effective pass rusher too like he has been in Minn. He will still get single blocked or force teams to keep the TE in. God knows thats a blessing for this D the way we cover the TE.

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 11:56 am

I also like the way Edwards has killed Dallas in his recent games against them. I’m sure the Eagles like it too. Of course he won’t face Columbo anymore and I think T Smith will be a very good player.

dsm841
dsm841
July 14, 2011 12:23 pm

Paulman you can make that point about any rookie or FA, Von miller isnt signed, neither is namdi but they both will start this season with new teams. My guess is our starting safety combo will be jarrett and Coleman with Nate Allen working his way back and starting after the first couple of games. We will sign a vet on a 1-2 year deal for leadership and stability. Safety will be fine. There is a 0% chance marlin Jackson is on this team week one unless he gets a bionic knee.

DDCar
DDCar
July 14, 2011 12:24 pm

I’ve been saying all off season that, Charles Johnson will be the Eagles top priority, & I was ripped for it, for saying we need a stud DE. Where are all those dopes now? Oh they’re all on the DE bandwagon now. Before this news, the ACL surgery was going to keep him out most of the season. He’s done this year gents. That’s the reality. We need a stud opposite Cole, not a stopgap, like some dopes suggested. Also we are not signing Asomugha. Andy will not give a 30+ year old player, $17M-$19M a year, & neglect all the other holes on DF. If they don’t get DRC in the Kolb deal, they will sign Joseph, Taylor or Grimes. Bank on it.
New Eagles-
DE Charles Johnson- DT Brandon Mebane- RCB Jonathan Joseph.

DDCar
DDCar
July 14, 2011 12:31 pm

Maybe now, this will wise up their decision making, in building this team with a bunch of smurfs. But knowing Fat boy & his equally fat ego, it won’t. He f^@king has to go, before than can ever win a Super Bowl.

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 12:42 pm

Don’t get me wrong DDCar,
I would love the Eagles to sign DE C Johnson who I mentioned back in Feb when most on here probably never even heard of him since the Panther Stunk last year, but anyways, the Panthers are going to lock him up from what I hear

Paul’s Free-Agent SIgnings for Eagles 2011

CB – C Rogers (from the Redsksins, gives them size & toughness in Red-Zone)
LB – S Tulloch (from the TItans, has played with DL Washburn, can play ILB or OLB and is tenacious and replaces the departed S Bradley)
DE – M Kiwanuka (from the Giants and adds a pass-rushers which is desperately needed opposite T Cole)
DT – B Coefield (from the Giants, an upgrade who is better pass-rusher than Patterson– M Patterson gets traded to Panthers,Seahawks for a 4th Rd Pick
OG – B Pollard (from the Colts and adds depth to the interior OL and has worked under new Coach R Mudd
RB – A Hightower (from Cardinals who becomes the Eagles Short yardage/red zone RB for the tough yards and can block and catch out of the backfield too and at 6-0 220lbs, adds some muscle to the running game

DDCar
DDCar
July 14, 2011 1:09 pm

Paul, I like all of those picks except Kiwanuka (He is another string bean & is coming off of a major injury), & Cofield is not that much of an upgrade over Patterson. Cofield had Tuck, Pierre- Paul, & Umenyiora around him.

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 1:24 pm

Kiwanuka would strictly play on Passing Downs and play 25-30 Snaps a game, He’s not an everydown DE for he is not very strong against the Run and the Eagles already have enough of these type of players..But as a rorational player who rushed the QB 25-30 times a game I bet he would end up witjh 10-12 Sacks for the Season playing on a rotational basis for he would be fresh all game/season long..
Coefield can get in the backfield and disrupt plays a lot more than Patterson, and Coefield did so when he was with the Cowboys and the Giants and again knows the NFC East opponents and schemes very well which is an added + ..

reed_richards
reed_richards
July 14, 2011 1:25 pm

You can pretty much stick a fork in this guy because he’s done here. This is AT LEAST a 2 year recovery. Abiamiri revisited. Actually he’ll just take his spot on just about every PUP list there is because you name the injury list and Abiamiri’s been there. Also, there is NO WAY they get Ike Taylor. Pittsburgh will not let that happen. Charles Johnson I agree with but knowing the eagles, they like the “low risk-high reward” type of guy ala Marlin Jackson who is damaged goods. If they dont get a CB in the Kolb deal, they’ll sign a “2nd tier” CB and sell us on his past. More than likely it will be Carlos Rogers which would not be a bad thing. They need to get better along that D-line. I would hope Mebane from the seahawks

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 2:23 pm

Reed..I have to say I’d agree with your sentiments in the past. But the new CBA will force the Eagles to spend this year. So they will have to sign at least one A list FA this year to get up to the cap figure. I can’t agree on Mebane. The Eagles stick with their first and second round picks to the very bitter end. Note said Abiamiri and McDougle. They will continue to try to squeeze something out of Bunkley and Patterson. Plus they have Dixon who they like a lot. And then there is Laws who is what? That’s right! A second round pick. Only Patterson has any trade value and Dixon is probably number one on the depth chart right now so I seriously doubt they bring in a FA DT. They won’t burry Bunkley on the bench since they have so much time invested and a first round pick. Plus I guess you haven’t heard. Now that Washburn is here, Bunkley will be among the top DTs in football like they expected FIVE years ago. Yes that is sarcasm! He will be slightly above average as usual. I think they will spend at DE though and they will sell us on some second rate corner. And they will have unrealistic expectations of Fokou and Chaney and refuse to get a decent FA LB. Again. Of course they have “aggressively” addressed the LB position with several 6th and 7th round picks in the last three drafts. They may go dumpster diving for another FA you will care less about when they could get Manny Lawson or Rocky McIntosh realtively cheap. But they won’t.

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 2:29 pm

Reed…think Mark Simonaeu, Dahani Jones, Shawn Barber (who they got real lucky on), Ernie Sims, Nate Wayne. A two star player or a hurt three star player.

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 2:31 pm

To reed-richards
Steeler drafted 2 CB’s this Draft and 2 in last years Draft,
Ike Taylor is a goner as they have planned for his replacement 2 seasons like they always do and is one of the reasons they remain a top team year after year

To jbirf,
I do think the Eagles will pursue a DT for I could see them shifting Bunkley out to DE for Running Downs and short-yardager/goal line Defense.. Then bring in a fire-baller like Kiwanuka or Hunt or Teo to come in on passing downs and be the Pass-Rusher…

schiller
schiller
July 14, 2011 2:37 pm

Wow, what a bunch of know-it-alls. Grahams rehab, recovery, and post recovery performance hasn’t happend yet, but some on here know how that’s going to turn out. And some on here know what the FA period will bring and how the Eagles think and this and that…

jbird
jbird
July 14, 2011 2:44 pm

The only sure things on this D are Cole and Samuel and Bradley if he stays. I like Dixon and Chaney and Nate Allen but they are iffy. The other five positions are holes that range from serious (RCB) to concerning (LDE & SS). I don’t think AR is THAT secure in his job that he can continue to make bad decisions with the defense. He knows he has to do something besides the usual duct tape and bailing wire he’s been using. He’s never brought in a good SAM. He inherited Emmons and never replaced him properly. He has always had issues at SS and LDE. He had Kearse for two years and ten years of garbage at LDE and aside from Mikell’s few good seasons and a couple years from Lewis, SS has been garbage. As long as he has one stud DE, one stud corner and a MLB, he will wing the rest. That’s his pattern.

reed_richards
reed_richards
July 14, 2011 2:55 pm

Jbird,
Good stuff. I hope they do spend and yes those LB’s in you other post were TERRIBLE. Don’t be surprised if they bring in Kirk Morrison.

Paulman,
With that being said about the Steelers CB’s, who out of their draft picks the last 2 years were anywhere near Taylor’s? Their current roster’s CB’s (the last 2 years worth of draft picks) are AT LEAST 1 more year away. They will bring Taylor back for 2yrs then let him walk or best case scenario, they cut him after this season. That is all dependent on the progress made by their CB’s.

reed_richards
reed_richards
July 14, 2011 3:01 pm

schiller,

we are all stating our individual opinions. if you don’t agree then so be it but the “know it all” talk is weak. since we are such “know it alls”, who have YOU seen in ANY SPORT recover from micro-fracture surgery in a year or less??? How long did take for Sam Dalembert to revover from his? Abiamiri? Since you obviously disagree with our OPINIONS, how about you offer some of your own? Oh that’s right, you “don’t know” yourself.

schiller
schiller
July 14, 2011 3:18 pm

Reed, I don’t have opinions about what will happen in the future. You may choose to make predictions, but I don’t. I’m no doctor, and I would be lying if I told you that I pay attention to specific injuries/recoverytime/data accros sports. But I do work in the medical field and I belive that the common wisdom says ‘different people heal differently and not all injuries (even those with the same names) are the same. To say that Graham’s injury is identical to anothers, and to then assume his recovery will mimick others is presumptuous.

dsm841
dsm841
July 14, 2011 3:20 pm

Marques colston and reggie bush are you examples. Marques has had close to or over 1,000 yards every season and just had his second microfracture of his career. People recover from microfracture but people forget because they chose to remember the people who dont recover well versus people who do. Its alll case by case as is any injury. The positives for Graham are that hes young, hasnt had a major injury, and this surgery was only noticed during the ACL repair (meaning it couldnt have affected him too much).

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
July 14, 2011 3:30 pm

Did I miss something? Bradley and Cole a sure thing on D?
Cole is a solid DE, but I didnt hear his name much toward the end of last season or the season prior, maybe it was partly to do with McDermott, I dont know but I know that Cole has not been consistent…Bradley was returning from the injury but he didnt show me that much,no way should he be considered a sure thing …Samuel I agree with..

reed_richards
reed_richards
July 14, 2011 3:33 pm

schiller,

if you say so. just because YOU don’t do something doesn’t mean you have to insult others that do. I’m not a doctor either but I am going by what i have seen. aside from Colston (per dsm), microftacture surgery is an injury in which people come back later than sooner. REGARDLESS of the individual and how fast they heal, a DE who is know for speed and quickness and NEEDS his legs for maximum production will take some time to recover from that type of surgery.

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 3:38 pm

I think Bradley bolts to the Rams/Vikings or maybe even the Chiefs who all have needs at LB, will pay him more $$$ and Bradley would love to be reunited with former Eagles Coach Spags who he had his best seasons under… Vikings could very well lose both Greenaway and Leber to free-agency leaving a gaping hole for them to replace.. Bradley is from the Mid-west and will be offered a 3 Year deal where the Eagles will probably offer their usual customary 1 Year Deal.. I would venture to say Bradley is a 75/25 % goner from the Eagles by his doing.. He wants the security if a 3 year Deal and right now with his history of injuries, the Eagles won’t go for that and he will bolt for a better opportunity and more $$$ and longer contract

schiller
schiller
July 14, 2011 3:43 pm

reed – I’m sorry if I offended you, but I personally get very annoyed when people throw out predictions that are phrased as absolute statements. I prefer to wait and see because life is unpredictable, and human beings have shown time and time again as HORRIBLE predicters of the future. (hence mocking psychics in our culture). Throw in the NFL.. and the future is just an unknown. But stating that you know stuff that you don’t know tends to bother me. You can post whatever you want (as far as I’m concerned). But I can voice my opinion about it – this is a discussion board afterall.

And already you’ve softened your opinion from “You can pretty much stick a fork in this guy because he’s done here. This is AT LEAST a 2 year recovery. Abiamiri revisited.” to ” will take some time to recover from that type of surgery.”

reed_richards
reed_richards
July 14, 2011 3:52 pm

Schiller,

I have not or will not retract my original opinion. Graham is done for at least 2 years. He didn’t just have microfracture surgery. Lets not forget the ORIGINAL knee injury to begin with. You must be annoyed and miserable all the time because most if not all offseasons in all sports are filled with assumptions, predictions and opinions. We are no different from the so called “experts” on TV who are just as wrong as we are. What exactly did I say that “softened” my original opinion? It seems there that you also make incorrect assumptions yourself. So you must have annoyed yourself then.

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 4:01 pm

I will bet you $10 Reed-Richards about Ike Taylor
Steelers are no going to pay him a big contract and this is Ike Taylors last chance of his career to get the big bucks being 30-31 years old already. Taylor has already won a Super Bowl under his belt and will bolt to whoever offers the best money and believe me, it won’t be the Steelers…

schiller
schiller
July 14, 2011 4:01 pm

Reed – you said, he’s done here. Then you said some time. Done means never again. Sometime means at some point in the future. Take some breaths man, maybe a sip of water… its going to be ok.

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 4:04 pm

One last thing Reed
Shiller only allows Paulman to make predictions and get away with it … ha

reed_richards
reed_richards
July 14, 2011 4:05 pm

Paulman,

Ok. its a bet. My question for you is, if they really want Ike Taylor who is looking for big money, then why not just get Jonathan Joseph? I think that they will try to get a CB and a pick for Kolb

reed_richards
reed_richards
July 14, 2011 4:09 pm

Schiller you misunderstood me. He is done here AND it will take him at least 2years to recover. In each case, I never said that he will be back with eagles. 1st round pick or not, they will not have another high draft pick DE just sitting on IR for more than a year. if you weren’t so busy being a opinion nazi then you would have understood what i said. you take the sip of water big guy.

Paulman, I agree with you the opinion nazi gives you a pass. LMAO!!

schiller
schiller
July 14, 2011 4:34 pm

reed – how long have you been reading this site? I have given up on Pauligril, that’s true. I ignore him 90% of the time (heck, that’s just a survival technique). But if you think I give him a pass, or have from the beginning, well HA – He takes the record for typed words on GCobb other than Garry himself. I’m probably #2, with 80% of my posts blasting Pauli for thinking he know’s the future. Trust me on this.

schiller
schiller
July 14, 2011 4:35 pm

And Reed, I’m sorry I misunderstood you. I mistook you for a reasonable person, but rather, you believe you have magical powers to see into the future.

paulman
paulman
July 14, 2011 4:36 pm

To RR,
I don’t think the Eagles are all that interested in Ike Taylor, I am just saying the Steelers will not re-sign him for what Taylor will get on the open market by someone.
I think the Eagles sign Free-Agent Carlos Rogers with a 4 year Deal for about $15-$18 Million with $3 Million as a Sign-On Bonus

reed_richards
reed_richards
July 14, 2011 4:43 pm

schiller, i actually mistook you for an eagles fan. i know now that you are miserable opinion nazi. I can only see the future for one thing, that you will be doing the same opinion nazi thing and forever be miserable as long as this site exists. you might be more annoying than a cowboys fan. sheesh!

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
July 14, 2011 4:59 pm

So we need a defensive end? Shocker. Not! It’s unfortunately that he got hurt the way he did but I’m not shocked about needing a DE because I think we still would need one even if this guy was healthy.