The Philadelphia Eagles 2011 Roster As Of September 4th
BREAKING NEWS, Eagles, General News, News Sunday, September 4th, 2011
I give Andy Reid and Howie Roseman credit for awarding players who made an impact during the preseason. They didn’t protect players whom they had drafted, solely because they had been drafted in high positions. They made some very tough decisions, but this roster will change after the first week.
The Eagles roster includes ten rookies, eight draft picks; Danny Watkins, Jaiquawn Jarrett, Curtis Marsh, Alex Henery, Dion Lewis, Jason Kelce, Julian Vandevelde, and Brian Rolle, as well as two undrafted free agents; punter Chaz Henry and defensive tackles Cedric Thornton.
The Eagles had two players, Winston Justice and Juqua Parker, take salary cuts in order to stay on the football team. Personally I wonder why more teams don’t approach players who are still very capable of contributing to the football team, but are no longer starters to take pay cuts.
Later today I will take an upclose look at each position and evaluate it.
OFFENSE:
Quarterbacks (3) – Michael Vick, Vince Young, Mike Kafka
Running Backs (4) – LeSean McCoy, Ronnie Brown, Dion Lewis and fullback Owen Schmitt
Wide Receivers (5) – DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Jason Avant, Riley Cooper and Steve Smith
Tight Ends (2) – Brent Celek, Clay Harbor
DEFENSE:
Offensive Line (9) – Jason Peters, Evan Mathis, Jason Kelce, Danny Watkins, Todd Herremans, Winston Justice, King Dunlap, Julian Vandervelde and Jamaal Jackson.
Defensive Linemen (10) – Ends – Trent Cole, Jason Babin, Juqua Parker, Darryl Tapp, and Phillip Hunt.
Tackles – Mike Patterson, Cullen Jenkins, Antonio Dixon, Trevor Laws and Cedric Thornton.
Linebackers (6) – Jamar Chaney, Casey Matthews, Moise Fokou, Akeem Jordan, Keenan Clayton and Brian Rolle.
Defensive Backs (11) Corners: Nnamdi Asomugha, Asante Samuel, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Curtis Marsh, Trevard Lindley and Brandon Hughes.
Safeties: Kurt Coleman, Jarrad Page, Nate Allen, Jaiquawn Jarrett and Colt Anderson.
SPECIAL TEAMS: (3) Kicker: Alex Henery Punter: Chas Henry Long-snapper: Jon Dorenbos
Brandon Graham (knee) opens on the PUP list, meaning the earliest he can play is Week 7.
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Rocko, he came into camp 225lbs. That’s why he isn’t with a team.
You have some good points and some things are incorrect, and you don’t like to give your team much credit because you fear they will not meet your standards. That’s the conclusion I have come up with in terms of what you write. I really believe you love the Eagles and think he world of them, but you shield yourself for the letdown that has been consistent, unfortunately.
Keep in mind, that I state the facts, and I agree with your offensive line fact: NO is better than PHI along the OL. Basing it off of last season, you are wrong when it comes to the numbers, and we both got eliminated in the first round of the playoffs (We lost to the Champs, they lost to Seattle…ouch)
It is a prediction that you think Jimmy Graham will be a stud and elite caliber tight end. It is not a fact, and we have seen many players come and go with the athleticism, talent, and potential (whether they succeeded or busted is another topic).
You are over-analyzing an improved playoff team in the Eagles, but not the Saints. Different players, coaches, and schemes, and like I said before, we are not the Saints and the protocol offense, we are unorthodox and explosive.
We know what we have in Brees, but there is no excuse for throwing 21 interceptions, none whatsoever. As for Vick, the guy was thrown into the starting role and his conditioning was obviously not tip top, or else he wouldn’t have worn down. He is still developing, and I do believe our plays were limited because of him. He is learning what he didn’t in Atlanta, head in the playbook, watching film, and is prepared to start and is the face of the franchise now.
Saints have no proven running backs, you speak well of TE Graham (played in 11 games) and RB Ingram (whose played as much as Watkins and Kelce), and are quick to praise their franchise and put down ours. Granted, running backs can be plugged in to produce right away, he is no LeSean McCoy (2nd in all-purpose yards in all of football)…yet at least.
Ronnie Brown, we know what he brings to the table and he is proven, he has made a Pro Bowl. Dion Lewis is a rookie, I won’t make a prediction for the purpose of this conversation, but Pierre Thomas and Darren Sproles in comparison is ridiculous. Sure, they may have similar roles on their respective teams, but the production isn’t there for New Orleans paulman.
Wide Receivers…the Saints are solid at that position for their system, and maybe even Colston wouldn’t make the same impact elsewhere (And I like him). We have 3 Pro Bowl caliber WRs whether you like them or not, which confuses me because they are proven and own your favorite team. Brent Celek had a Pro Bowl caliber season catching the football, and basically played offensive line last season…tell me he isn’t closer to complete than he was before. We gave the ball to Harbor on a reverse in the preseason, and showed flashes last season catching some passes down the middle (although very limited playing time to go off of, so the jury is still out on him, as it is on Graham, Ingram, Watkins, and Kelce).
You like to keep things one-sided or compare to the media’s perception of average, the Saints are explosive and a top offense in this league no doubt about it. But to say they are better because they have the standard QB that plays by the book, and the head coach that won a Superbowl shows what you prefer, not necessarily better.
It is obvious we are a better run blocking offensive line, perhaps reflecting on the Patriots, Colts, Saints, and Packers winning is the reason for it. The reason for getting Howard Mudd out of retirement, signing Ronnie Brown, and if you noticed, all preseason we worked on the west Coast offense and the running game (it was ugly, but it wasn’t our explosive/home run offense). I think we are working on stuff and this is what these coaches do every single day, year in and year out, Andy Reid can grow as well and may very well be the a Superbowl winning coach before his days in Philadelphia are over.
Keep in mind, the Steelers and Packers were in the Superbowl and have mediocre offensive lines. Pittsburgh’s star center Pouncey got injured and they had to roll with a backup. They just had the right QBs, skills position players for their schemes, and elite defenses, sound familiar?
Our offensive line, give them a chance. Peters is a stud. Herremans is a good starter in this league. We just have more questions because this is a new unit, but we have backups with experience in Justice and Jackson. Our linebackers, give them a chance. Chaney racked up tackles last year, and Casey Matthews doesn’t want to be a failure behind his grandfather, father, and his brother. He was born to play this game and is not Patrick Willis, or is he? See, we wouldn’t know because he has only played in preseason games. Even after the next 2 seasons the kid will still be developing whether he is a Pro Bowler or not. I don’t hear you stripping down the Saints LBs with an overrated Vilma (although I like him for Fantasy Football purposes), and their secondary doesn’t stand out, and neither does their defensive line. We have them beat defensively, and the wildcard is Juan Castillo, give the man a chance to coach a regular season game before you assume he can’t do it or that he’s on his way out. I will say that defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is one of the better coaches and they have the edge there right now. But not anywhere else, but if you must I’ll give you Vilma on their corps lol.
We didn’t go out and acquire slouches.
Meshing together? That’s for the offensive line.
Defense? Do what you’ve always done individually and play your role.
Nnamdi Asomugha, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Cullen Jenkins, Jason Babin. 4 Pro Bowlers.
That will clearly improve our last-ranked red zone defense.
Trent Cole has help along the line, and anything Brandon Graham contributes this year is a cherry on top. Constant pressure on the quarterback and occupying blockers to free up the linebackers in the run game (as the season goes on).
We all know a defensive line makes the back 7 better instantly, but a great secondary makes a front 7 better than they would be too.
3 Pro Bowl CBs, Coleman is a tackling machine and around the ball, Allen is good when healthy, Page is serviceable and I though he did well in Kansas City, and Jarrett is a rookie with potential.
Nice depth huh? I know, but without looking can you tell me the Saints secondary players? lol. I think we loaded up similarly to GB, whereas if we had an injury at any position, we would have an adequate replacement (especially at the skills positions, but don’t overlook the trenches either) or anyone were to go down, we would expect similar production from starting caliber players. Players that could start on other teams.
We’re elite and better than you want to admit, but that doesn’t mean I think we’ll go 16-0. I do think we will earn a top 2 seed and a bye, and will be playing at the very least, in the NFC Championship game. I personally feel we will be in the Superbowl against San Diego, and Vick-torious.
If you would like an email (it’s cool if you don’t care) of my team-by-team/week-by-week predictions, playoffs, and awards, I will be done and condense my countless sheets (paper and on Microsoft Word, I do it every season) into a final prediction sheet. I could sent you a copy for you to fill in yourself, just email me at wmonell@yahoo.
I respect your opinions and we’re all cool on here, so I have no problem saying that my perspective is glass half full/pro-Eagles, whereas some of you are cautious and skewed toward the opposition for the most part because of the question marks we do have, which is not as many as other teams you would consider playoff ready and/or contenders.
The Eagles just picked up another guard.
I know you guys will say I’m negative, but the way our offensive line played last season, there’s no reason we should still be trying to figure out who will play on the offensive line one week before the opener.
Come on now!!!!
We just cut a player to make room for another guard because the Eagles do not have confidence and need insurance for their 1st round pick. And that’s te problem with getting the 1st round wrong.
Most teams draft 1st round for a starter to impact the team immediately and when that doesn’t pan out, the ripple effects other areas of the roster.
I’ll go on record and say Watkins will be a bust in Philadelphia and finally prosper with another team.
Why?
He’s a run mauler!!!!
We pass the ball!
Players like Watkins pass protect better after wearing guys down through the run and everyone here knows Andy will drop back to pass the majority of the time.
This Watkins have slow feet and he’s at an disadvantage if asked to pass block continuously.
I went back and just looked at him in the last preseason game and guess what?
This guy had problems against 2nd and 3rd teamers on the inside.
The defensive tackles in NFC east will have him for breakfast.
Defensive ends will stunt on the inside and leave him flatfooted.
It’s a shame because he could be a good offensive lineman with a team like the Steelers or any other team that values the run game …but he’s not made for the Eagles.
Andy’s philosophy puts the offensive line at an disadvantage…it also put the defense at a disadvantage by not giving them time to catch their breath by a patient run game.
If Andy change..this team can win and Watkins may flourish.
But is their anyone here who believes he will change?
songs, i think this year andy will be forced to change (at least a little bit more) . if pass protection continues to have problems he will have to run the ball with 3 high quality backs . but i will not hold my breath!
The Scorpion and the Frog is a fable about a scorpion asking a frog to carry him across a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out that this is its nature. The fable is used to illustrate the position that the behaviour of some creatures is irrepressible, no matter how they are treated and no matter what the consequences.
on the Andy reid running the ball thing, what about the ‘three headed monster’ year with Staley, Buckhalter, and Westbrook. That trio finished the year with 20 rushing TDs, 7 receiving TDs, 2465 total yards, 1618 rushing and 847 receiving. Reid IS capable of doing it. And with all the talent in the backfield, it’s possible.
bsm, thanks for that contribution. While that’s a valuable fable, a fable is a simple lesson created hundreds of years ago to teach kids a story – it’s not the ‘end all’. Fact is, neuroscience has clearly shown us otherwise – the human brain (and therefore behavior and emotions) is capable of change at any age and almost in any circumstance. It’s proven fact. You still wet your bed at night? What I though ‘once a bedwetter, always a bedwetter’. A fable is akin to a myth – well intended to teach a lesson through story, but not always true or accurate about the world/life.
If you were to take the tortoise and the hare for absolute truth, than I’d be a better WR for the Eagles than Desean Jackson.
songs, you are negative and here’s why. You start with this “what would be the ideal/best case scenario/perfection for the Eagles”. Your conception of the team starts there. And then you look at this team, and search for flaws that subtract from that initial ideal you set. That’s who you think of things.
An optimist starts at the reality – the Eagles have a ton of talent, a coach that get’s them close but not ‘there’ almost every year, a lot of new talent, a lot of challenging transitions, some questionmarks/weakness at OL, LB and safety and some overall philosophy/coaching styles that sometimes work against them. AND NOW, what have they done to address that. Well they added a guy who know’s the OL system who can provide depth or step in if one of the guards (both new) doesn’t work out.
So you start from an unrealistic standpoint and then search for negatives.
Whereas an optimist starts from reality, and looks for solutions/potential improvements.
Your way never touches reality, it goes from fantasy to doom and gloom.
Shit, do you look at a chick lik Gisell Bunchen (Brady’s baby Momma) and say ‘well damn, it would be so hard to take her out to dinner, she’s probably so fussy about what she eats” and “It would suck to be getting ready to go out for the night with her, she probably takes 5 hours to leave and never leaves on time”…? Yeah, I bet that’s how you’d approach that.
2 spots left guys. I’ve been out of the country. Send me an email for an invite astuckey05 @ gmail. com . Draft is Wed at 8pm.
well…. my chal lasted all of like 1 post but whatever. Im glad Pman tore our team a new one. This is the same guy who ripped our phills and lists the panthers every year.
*lifts