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The Key To The Eagles Future Isn’t Castillo, It’s Michael Vick

Everybody wants to focus on Andy Reid and Juan Castillo, but neither of them will be making any plays for the Birds next week.  It isn’t a coincidence that Tom Brady and Eli Manning are getting to ready to play in the Super Bowl this season.

Brady is the best quarterback in the AFC and Eli Manning was playing the best football of any quarterback in the NFC.  Yesterday, I learned from Reid that not one of the four quarterbacks in the AFC and NFC Championship games missed any games this past season.

The key to the Eagles future isn’t Reid or Castillo, it’s Michael Vick.  Vick must change his mindset this offseason or this team is doomed to another failed season.

Vick a.k.a. “Superman” has insisted on trying to win games by himself by holding the ball too long, never giving up on plays, taking too many chances with the football as well trying to run over linebackers while refusing to slide.

He was asked about Vick’s ability to take care of the football and eliminate the turnovers that placed them 30th in league in turnovers.

“I do. I think he understands…and not that every one of them was Michael Vick’s but there were too many. I think he would tell you the same thing, not to say anything different than I think he would say and how he feels. I think this offseason will give him an opportunity to go back and study those things and what you can do and what you can’t do, how to move subtly in the pocket to make throws so the ball might not be tipped whether it’s a screen, whether it’s a short intermediate pass, the timing of each route and getting it coordinated with your two receivers that really didn’t have training camp, how important that is, absolutely important.”

“And then one thing I thought he really learned this year was how to utilize the tight end and we gave him more opportunities to do that as coaches, which I thought was important – [TE] Brent [Celek] ended up having a pretty good year. But there are some things he can, specifically, attack this offseason and he’s in the right frame of mind to do that.”

“He’s been in constant communication with me since the season’s been over and he is ready to go. Now we have some new rules in the three different phases that we can have in the offseason that are a little different than seasons before, but he’s ready to get in and get better.”

Vick still has to prove to me that he can focus well enough to cut down the turnovers.

Here’s what Reid had to say when I asked him whether Vick could change his mentality of being so daring on the field and taking so many chances with his health.

“I think Michael will tell you this: you look at the last four teams that are playing in the playoffs and all four quarterbacks didn’t miss a start. So he’s aware of that and he understands how important he is to this football team when he’s healthy. And that means as healthy as you can be playing this sport. So you limit your contact points that he had. And I think that he was able to see that this year. Now does that mean that he’s never going to run the ball again? No. I would tell you that I’m sure he’s going to run the ball. But when you do that, is there a time to get out of bounds and a time to get down? Absolutely, so that you live to play the next play.”

Again I need to see Vick running out of bounds as well throwing the ball away because he knows he can’t take the chance of getting hurt.

We can talk forever about the coaches, the defense and the receivers, but ultimately if Vick doesn’t make the commitment to do a better job of taking care of the football and his body, the Eagles will be watching the playoffs next year just like they’re doing right now.

 

GCOBB

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andrew p
andrew p
February 1, 2012 9:03 am

I think we can all agree, when it comes to grooming QBs no one does it better than this staff, i believe with a full camp, OTAs, ect, and this being Vicks first year going in as the starter and getting all the reps, he’s gonna be leaps n bounds better this coming year.

jakedog
jakedog
February 1, 2012 9:28 am

great question, but the better question is after 10 years of this type of play, what makes any person think the quarterback will change, so the eagles will be home next year come playoff time

paulman
paulman
February 1, 2012 9:30 am

I hope that’s the case with Vick for the Eagle team will only go as far as Vick can take them in 2012.. They have a pretty difficult shcedule and it’s imperative that they get off to a fast start and that he stays healthy to play all Season long

paulman
paulman
February 1, 2012 9:49 am

I agree 100% with G-Man on his article.
The NFL is a QB Driven League and looking at all the Top Teams,they all have very good to elite QB’s or at the minimum, have very careful game managers at QB ike the 49ers Smith or Ravens Flacco who won’t lose many games by being reckless with the ball…But QB’s like Brady,Rodgers,Brees,Mannings,Big Ben, have the ability to overcome mistakes and some Int’s to still lead their Teams to Victory where M Vick has not shown that he can yet.. and just like QB Romo,Matt Ryan,Mark Sanchez,J Cutler, etc,etc.. He has to play a very smart and good all-around game for the Eagles to win, Vick does not have to be SUperman, but efficient,patient and protective of the ball.. If he does these things and gets the ball out cleanly and quickly to his playmakers, there is no reason that the Eagles cannot make the Playoffs with a chance to get to the Super Bowl
2012 Season comes down to QB Mike VIck… Will he step up and sieze the moment and Season..

greenfan
greenfan
February 1, 2012 9:52 am

Our wagon is hitched to this pony….we will only go as far as he will take us.

I believe that, provided we get Mathis signed, we are entering into a season where we could have a stable offensive line. The line will have had a year under coach mudd. I believe that this should be a good thing for Mike in terms of protection. Early last season I do not believe that he had faith in the OL, and it lead to some bad decsions and turnovers.

Lastly, we also need to decide what direction we are going with DJax. If he is not going to be back, we cannot go into the season with the only the recievers on the current roster. We will need to add a veteran #1, otherwise our whole recieving corp is too easy to cover and take out of the game.

DCar
DCar
February 1, 2012 10:10 am

The key to the Eagles future, is when this nightmarish era ends, & they blow it up. BTW, Vick is nothing more than a product of an ESPN highlight reel & the Madden games. He isn’t, never was & never will be a Championship QB. He is an injury prone, inconsistent, TO machine. Other than the 4-5 games in 2010, he has been bad. Like I said before it happened, as soon as he gets a new contract, the bloom would be off the rose & he would revert to super 7. Then what happened, he did. For anyone to think at his age, with all of the injuries & milage his small frame has endured, & all of his short comings, will all of a sudden be the hero & win us the SB, is delusional.

jakedog
jakedog
February 1, 2012 10:23 am

Excellent post ddcar and nary a cuss word

greenfan
greenfan
February 1, 2012 10:26 am

DCar…much of what you point out may be accurate, but just as true is the fact that for the 2012 season Vick will be our QB…AR will be our head coach….and Castillo will be our DC. We need to live with those facts.

DCar
DCar
February 1, 2012 10:38 am

Jake, LMBO! I cut back on the caffeine this morning, & my little 9 year old granddaughter is watching me like a hawk. Green, I’m already resigned to the fact of that brutal reality. We can only hope that, that little bit of humbleness that Reid showed yesterday was real & it will override his ego & stubbornness & carry over to good off-season decision making. Because if not, 2012 will be lost by week 6, with the monster schedule we have.

skman7
skman7
February 1, 2012 10:53 am

Once Reid and MM have the off season to work with Vick he will be a lot better in 2012. I feel he will run but find ways to take less hits. If we draft well and sign Vincent Jackson and a experienced linebacker we will definitely be back in the playoffs. We also need to get a big running back to go with McCoy. We must run the ball next year and be in a position to pick up short yardage when needed. I like the fact that now Reid has to coach under pressure. This will make a big difference next season!!!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
February 1, 2012 11:03 am

fake Dcar poster – where is the Dcar I know and love – I am shipping a double expresso to your house with a note that Reid is extended for two years and Roseman is getting a pay raise for his excellent work – should be there in 15 minutes –

I remember when Randall Cunningham had that great year playing for the Vikings – he completely changed and became a pocket passer – he used his mobility to move int he pocket and extend plays – not take off and get hit – he used hi mobility to avoid contact…. Vick can change – cause this article is correct – this team will go as far as Vick can take them –

cut down on the turnovers – this team can make the playoffs – get stronger at LB (especially MLB) this team can make a solid run – get better at LB and Safety – we are the in conference championship – Vick has a good year, round out he D – no reason team can’t compete

DCar
DCar
February 1, 2012 11:15 am

Navy, you trying to give me a stroke? My blood pressure is rising at the thought of that premise. LMFBO!!! I get all hyped up over these clowns. I didn’t get one thing, so far this off-season. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for two stud monster LB’s, a beast DT, a starting veteran safety & Dwayne Bowe. BTW, mmmmm, espresso! 8]

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 1, 2012 11:32 am

I believe one of the key points that Reid made is that Vick must learn to ” how to move subtly in the pocket….” . So often we see the 7 step drop from the shotgun followed by the attempted spin outside and whammo right into the DE. 10 years in and he still won’t step up into the pocket. maybe next year.

And while there are many issues regarding Vick, Dcar just brought up another point that that doesn’t garner enough attention And that’s Vick’s age. 32 is not old for a QB, and many have been successful past that, but it is old for a running QB. I think when you look at a guy that plays the way Vick does and has taken as many hits as he has, and has sustained as many injuries as he has, it would be better to compare his age to that of a RB and not a QB. And we know what happens to most RBs over 30.

It wouldn’t be a suprise to think that Vick’s body is breaking down. Compare him to other “running QBs”
Steve Young. Basically first year starting at 30. 3 solid seasons. 2 injury filled seasons. 2 more solid years, then he fell off a cliff due to injuries and concussions. The drop was precipitous. 5 yrs as a starter.
Donovan McNabb. 2 Solid. 1 year missed 6. 2 more solid. 2 years where he missed 7 and 6. 2 more good years, then he fell off a cliff (at age 33) The drop was quick and precipitous.
Vick. 1 year solid. Missed a yeas. 3 solid years. 2 years sitting. COmeback with 32 years where he missed 5 games and parts of others (inconclusive health wise).

The wildcars is the 2 “off” years, but the amound of punishment heaped on this guy has been extreme. His injury list is ridiculous And he’s a mini-man.

Its foolish to think that his missing games over his career to: back injury, sprained left shoulder, sprained thumb, another sprained shoulder, broken leg, sprained ankle, sprained right shoulder, hamstring, sprained knee, rib injury, groin pull, quad pull, broken ribs and several concussions aren’t going to add up.

Anyone else wonder whay Romo didn’t miss a game with his rib injury and Vick missed several weeks. Did they really take that long? No injury is the same, but this isn’t Vick’s first injury in that area….damage to the body is cumulative……(Or perhaps Vick was benched – as many writers have speculated – I don’t really buy this, its just out there)

This is going to end well.

jakedog
jakedog
February 1, 2012 11:40 am

navy, you should also send that espresso north of the border, that was the lamest post ever by vinnie where is the vitriol?

paulman
paulman
February 1, 2012 11:55 am

Not to make any excuses,but let’s look at the entire Eagles Defense from 2011 and see how many new COaches and Players were added

– 5 New Coaches who never worked together before and who came from different schemes/systems (Washburn,Lynne) 3 of which is their 1st Year as Coaching on Defense (Castillo,Caldwell and Zordich)

– List of New Players on this Defense
Free-agents or by Trade
DL — Hunt & Jenkins, Landri, Babin
Secondary — DCR,Asmo,J Page

Then look at 2nd Year Players who had no OTA/Regular Camp who are now in a new Scheme (almost like being a rookie again)
DL – Brandon Graham
LB – Chaney,Clayton
Secondary – Allen,Coleman,Anderson,B Graham

Then look at the Rookie Players who are learning by the seat of their pants in the compressed offf-season/summer camp
LB – Matthews, Rolle
Secondary – C Marsh and Jarrett

Out of a normal 25 Players on Defense, I count up a total of 18 of the 25 Players as being New to the team, New to the NFL, New to the Schemes, being led by New Coaches who are still learning each other too… I really get back to how we fans and the local media and even Coach AR could have thought this was going to come together in a 4-6 week Summer Camp Season.. For the Eagles finishing 8th in ranked Defense is actually pretty damn good when considering all the moving parts to the Coaching Staff, the new schemes and of course the new players..

I wonder if there was another team in the NFL that had a combiniation of so many new Coaches (that never worked with each other) and so many new players…

I look at some of teh Teams with new Coaches, that all had the same limited workouts/otas.compressed schedules
-49ers (HC Harbaugh brought his Entire Staff from Stanford who have been with him for 3-4 years and they only added a few pieces to an already solid Defense)
– Panthers (HC Rivera brought 3-4 Coaches from the Chargers, only added a few new players one of which Rookie QB in Newton, and TE Shockey/Olson)
– Broncos (HC J Fox brought in new Coaches and some new players..)
– Raiders (HC Jackson was new, but Raiders Staff mostly intact from previous Head Coach Tom Cable’s staff, brought in some new players
– Titans (HC Munchak was on theTitan staff and retainted many of the Coaches from Fishers Staff, brought in a few new players)

Every team brings in new players every season,but look at the good teams this season, they all had stable,cohesive Coaching Staffs..
Packers,Patriots,Ravens,Steelers,Falcons,Saints,Lions,Giants,etc,etc
and even though the 49ers HC was a 1st Year HC, his entire staff has been together since hie coached Stanford and San DIego State before that, so their schemes,routines,drills,pace, etc,etc already had an established track record of success

btc24
btc24
February 1, 2012 12:03 pm

Paulman, I can’t help but notice that you capitalize random words in your posts. What’s up with that?

paulman
paulman
February 1, 2012 12:06 pm

I am scattershot/schizo in my thoughts and typing sometimes BTC24..

xtian999
xtian999
February 1, 2012 12:10 pm

In response to the title and premise of this article: Yes, yes and yes. Cut the turnovers by 1/3 and score more than 3 points in those 5 come from ahead losses and the 2011 Eagles could very well have been 10-6 or 11-5. We’re only talking 2-3 games here. Let us not forget that the offense and defense played well enough in those games to carry a lead into the 4th qtr before a complete collapse by both sides of the ball. Obviously, there is no guarantee that 2012 will be any different. Vick’s reputation as a Turnover machine is well earned save his magnificent performance during the first half of 2010. Without a doubt, he is the key to 2012.

Stevo
Stevo
February 1, 2012 12:25 pm

Lazy “reporting” G. here is y….

1) Everyone knows the QB is the most important job on the field. Everyone knows you dont win SB’s without a quality QB anymore. Stating the obvious here.

2) Your headline makes it sound like it has been a waste of time talking about the DC. it has not been. Clearly there are issues on the D side of the ball and we would have been in the playoffs IF the D was not a work in progress at the start.

3) To dig deeper in my last point….. the Key for this Eagles team IMO is Andy. He has a track record… a deep history…. of putting all of his eggs in the QB basket regardless of the Oline, regardless of the WR’s, regarless of the QB is hurt. Even all the trick plays that he likes to run ALWAYS put presssure to land the fle flicker or have the “star” QB make some crazy play. Only when we’ve had the likes of Garcia or Feely playing has he really used others arounf the QB.

4) WR play. You break it down as all on Vick but how many times did we see Djax drop the Td pass? Or Maklin fumble to end the game? If my memory serves me right…. we lost AT LEAST the san fran game due to kicking, 1 game when we jusmped off sides, 1 game when Jmak fumbled.

Clearly Vick has to plkay better. Clearly he sucked this year. Clearly INT’s and fumbles wont help a D that already sucks to begin with. Clearly having a true vet backup is important. BUT please…. please….. understand that this is STILL a team sport. and this team BLOWS.

btw-Im not so such Eli was playing the best QB in the NFC…. I thought Alex Smith did a great job this post season and its a shame he fumbled at the end….. oh waite….. nevermind.

drummerwinslow
February 1, 2012 12:30 pm

Keeping in mind that Eli Manning obliterated the turnover record last year, Vick gets one more year to show something.

Andrew P

On what do you base your comment ,”[W]hen it comes to grooming QBs no one does it better than this staff?” I’m not saying your right or wrong. I’m just wondering how you arrived at that conclusion.

Stevo
Stevo
February 1, 2012 12:38 pm

Vinnie- that was the smartest post you have have written. There were actually points in there. im proud. I agree with you and thats why its importaant that we land a solid Vet that is ready to roll at all times. in the grand scheme, i still say Vick was the best option of what we had but we need to be thinking like we need 2 starting Qb’s.

drummerwinslow
February 1, 2012 12:46 pm

I still find it difficult to ignore the fact that our defense was designed “years ago” to play with a lead, especially considering that losing 4th quarter leads isn’t exclusive to this season.

drummerwinslow
February 1, 2012 12:52 pm

The premise of this “under-sized” defense was to control the game after the opposing team was forced to throw the ball because they were playing from behind.

Stevo
Stevo
February 1, 2012 12:53 pm

yes drummer…. think of the Arizona NFC champ game. we had the lead at the end. Think of how the bears… every friggin year…. caught a TD pass in the back of the endzone to give up the game ending lead. All eggs in 1 baskett. every single year. It was the same with Jim J, sean, and now on Juan. I miss the bend but dont break D- now we have “bend and shatter” sorry boys, i trade marked that quote 2 years ago.

lionsden
lionsden
February 1, 2012 2:21 pm

@Paulman… Bravo for making the overarching case that circumstances matter. Thank you for pointing out that the downside to acquiring many new pieces (especially with a lockout shortened off season and new staff on both sides of the ball) is that chemistry will take time to develop due to a lack of continuity from the previous season. The only thing that I would add is that this was Vick’s first full season as the starter and 3rd season back in the league and in this offense. He has made significant progress with his understanding of the schemes without the benefit of OTA’s and a full off season. This is also his first offensive minded coach and the first time he’s played in a pass heavy offense. He was not as good this season as we would have liked, but I expect that in spite of what all the people who like to bash him say that he will be even better than 2010 and this team will make it to the big game.

@paulman… But I think this part of your post sums it all up best:

“Every team brings in new players every season,but look at the good teams this season, they all had stable,cohesive Coaching Staffs..
Packers,Patriots,Ravens,Steelers,Falcons,Saints,Lions,Giants,etc,etc
and even though the 49ers HC was a 1st Year HC, his entire staff has been together since hie coached Stanford and San DIego State before that, so their schemes,routines,drills,pace, etc,etc already had an established track record of success.” I’ve been trying to make this case since I’ve joined, but I made the mistake of quoting experts who were not on gcobb.com. Maybe now that I’ve quoted you somebody will believe me…

There’s a reason to be optimistic about next season and this crop of players especially if the FO works FA and the draft well.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
February 1, 2012 2:55 pm

Pman – did you see where MMs son is not going to Penn State? Switching to Florida – you think it has anything to do with his old man not going to PS?

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 1, 2012 3:01 pm

I thought Mike Vick was a top five QB entering the NFL season —- I don’t think that anymore because he cannot be trusted to not self injure himself — not wearing a mouth piece when Herrimans knee knocked him out, and allowing safeties to bust up his ribs two years in a row by taking unnecessary hits —

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 1, 2012 3:16 pm

Or worst Eagles…..not wearing the mouthpiece in the games after the concussion ….he seems to have it occasionally, though other times not. I guess he’s just “into the game” and forgets.

(though too be fair, I see too many idiot QBs out on the field sans mouthpiece)

greenfan
greenfan
February 1, 2012 3:31 pm

Skyler Morningwheg has been looking to sign elsewhere since the Sandusky scandal first broke…intially it was no comment…but it has been known for a while that he was going elsewhere. PSU already signed a QB from Georgia in his place.

paulman
paulman
February 1, 2012 3:39 pm

No Navy,
I think it was all about the Scandal… If Coach MM got the Oakland Job, his son would proably have tried to enroll in Stanford or Cal to be closer to him, but like
greenfan mentioned above, the Boy and MM were looking at other options when the SAndusky Scandal broke.. ..
I

jott1972
jott1972
February 1, 2012 7:13 pm

glad i’m not the only one who has ZERO confidence in the current regime or 2012 season….I hope they finish 4-12 and Andy is canned along with Roseman and the rest of the front office… I could care less about this organization. I will not root for the Birds until Reid is gone.

jott1972
jott1972
February 1, 2012 7:14 pm

as for MM’s kid….he chose Florida because he got pissed that PSU signed Steve Bench out of Georgia…. I have a friend who is a teacher at the prep and Sklyer wasnt happy and felt slighted by PSU like they went behind his back…..word is at PSU that new coach O’Brien didnt feel Sklyer was a fit for his offense and went with Bench instead….they are glad Sklyer went elsewhere.

jmt8251
jmt8251
February 1, 2012 7:27 pm

GCobb I find it strange that all of you ex-Eagle players turned sports writers, think this is a one man game and not a team game. I wonder why the Eagles did not win a SB when you played? Vick was not on the team then. The last appearance the Eagles made to the SB there were all kinds of turnovers, was Vick responsible for that also? We all know Mike must stay healthy to give his team a chance but we also know that his line will need to give him a clean pocket to do that. Brady is no good if he can’t get the ball out and neither is any of the other QB. I think you ex-players have a problem with Vick being the highest paid Eagle player and think that he should play offense and defense because of it. Well it is time to grow up and get over it. His is a special talent that only comes along once in a while. Howard Mudd is going to be the key to this team and the growth and development of Mike, and I think it will show this year. He deserves to be protected just like the so called Golden boys of this league and Andy Reid is the first coach to understand it. Michael Vick is a elite player/qb and will show it this year. So get your negative comments ready for someone else after the season starts because you will be made a fool when the season start just like the rest of the media that forgot no other player ever won a SB in Philly. Always the best for Mike Vick who gives his team everything he has. Maybe the rest of the players will do the same this year.

jott1972
jott1972
February 1, 2012 7:32 pm

Michael Vick will never win a SB… the guy can’t read a defense or the blitz….the line played well this year, Vick missed reads and danced around too much so the lineman couldnt block forever when he doesnt stay in the pocket…..the guy is an athlete with a good arm playing QB…. he isnt good enough to win a title. He is well past his prime and still hasnt learned how to play the position.

short
short
February 1, 2012 7:51 pm

@jottl972, damm they should have kept Kevin Kolb. LOL LOL LOL LOL, that fool has been in the league 6yrs and still hasn’t figured out how to set his feet.

jmt8251
jmt8251
February 1, 2012 7:52 pm

I don’t know what games you watched, it seems only the preseason games, everthing you said about Vick is a lie, can’t read defenses, he read the Cowboys, Jets, Redskin team, Revis of the Jets said he knew everything we were going to do, the Cowboys said they had no answer for him. The national media said Vick had developed into a QB who can read coverages, this was his first year having that responsibility. The O line started playing well at the end of the season, Howard Mudd was so disgusted with the line that he threw papers at them in the Miami game. Rex Ryan said he throw the ball better than most QB in this league and we that watch the games saw those throws. He is past is prime LOL LOL, well Manning is older, Steve Young was older and Elway was to. He is more capable of winning a SB than any other QB in this league. So take the hate somewhere else, the only thing Mike needs to do is stay healthy. If Eli Manning who had over 40 turnovers in 2010 and 20 in 2011 can be considered elite hell Mike can also. You haters never give any real facts just ranting, You saying he is not good does make it a fact.

short
short
February 1, 2012 7:54 pm

What I don’t understand about Cobb is this he never won a thing, neither did Ike Reese, but they are the first to say “we want a Superbowl” hell they couldn’t have wanted it that bad, they had the opportunity to get one ……………….talk about what you want Mike to prove, and didn’t prove a thing yourself………Dude get a grip.

tonto5
tonto5
February 1, 2012 7:54 pm

if the QB fails, isn’t it the job of Andy Reid to realize he needs a better QB….

tonto5
tonto5
February 1, 2012 7:55 pm

in 14 years he has picked Mcnabb and Vick….there is no true pocket passers there

short
short
February 1, 2012 7:59 pm

@jtt1972, dude what kind of fan are you. You want a team you are a fan of to go 4-12. I get the feeling you weren’t watching games anyway, especially after what you said about Mike, and then to say you hope your team loses. Man you weren’t watching the Eagles game, fact is we don’t need fans like you. Get Lost

jmt8251
jmt8251
February 1, 2012 8:03 pm

@DCarr None of your previous beloved QB’s got you a SB, but yet the whole history of the Eagles not winning is all Vick’s fault LOL, Kevin Kolb will not get you or any other team a SB, well I guess all of your Golden boys just don’t sem to work out. When Vick wins the SB you morons will say it was the defense, or the coaches and not Vick, he will get all the blames for loses but never any credit for wins. What a bunch of bigots.

tonto5
tonto5
February 1, 2012 8:19 pm

Eli and Brady have coaches that know balance attack….maybe not every game but def. in playoffs. Mcnabb’s last playoff game, Andy ran RBs total 10 times…lol Vick’s LAST PLAYOFF game total 11….u can’t win like that

jmt8251
jmt8251
February 1, 2012 8:35 pm

Well The future is now nobody is looking for a statue in the pocket so get over the golden boy era is dead. Teams are looking for mobile QB, this is not your granddaddy’s NFL anymore..

pheags88
pheags88
February 1, 2012 8:39 pm

How funny would it be if Kolb is back on this team again next year…If Manning can play he will be cut and be able to pick wherever he goes..There were already reports that the CArds wanted him and I could actually see him liking Arizona…he would have Fitz, an improving defense, and a division where all he would have to do is beat out the 49ers and he is in the playoffs again. Reid would jump on Kolbs jock if the cards dumped him.

IN regard to the article, in my opinion Vick or Castillo will never bring a SB to the Eagles. Thats just how I truly feel an if I had to place a bet on it thats how I would go with it. Castillo obviously didn’t hire himself but I just have no faith in him coaching against the better offenses/QBs in the league which you would have to beat to get a championship.

In regard to Vick, I don’t love him or hate him. I think he is what he is and will not drastically change his game at this time in his career. I could sit here and debate about his pocket presence, ability in reading D’s, accuracy, and turnovers but I won’t even get into it. Cuz to me the fact that he will never take us to where we all want to go is all because the guy can’t stay healthy. Its a proven fact that he will just get hurt again this year and the next if he is here that long. You don’t win rings with QBs who can’t stay on the field for 16 games, period.

short
short
February 1, 2012 9:19 pm

Damm there certainly are a lot of pyshics on this blog. Fact is I believe some of you folks who post here will complain regardless, more than likely you would complain if you had a superbowl win……………….keep wondering what kind of fans are you really. Maybe its your negative attitudes that will keep you away from the big one. I think I will just continue to be positive, negativity is never good. Btw I hope Reid leaves Kolb’s jock just where it is.

short
short
February 1, 2012 9:22 pm

Where do all of you psychics come from? When I read some of these comments I keep wondering if you folks are really fans. I think most of you would complain regardless to what. Even if you had a superbowl win you would still find something to complain about. Maybe its your profound negativity that keeps the big one away. Btw, I hope Reid leaves Kolb’s jocks just where they are, he can’t seem to stay healthy either, I guess you forgot about that.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 1, 2012 9:38 pm

JMT8251 “He is more capable of winning a SB than any other QB in this league.”

Really? ‘Cause I can think of 2 Qbs right now who are a little more capable of winning it…..

Tonto “Eli and Brady have coaches that know balance attack…”
They had 3rd and 4th highest pass/run ratio in the league (behind NO and Detroit)….strange.

pheags88
pheags88
February 1, 2012 10:02 pm

Nope, you don’t need to be a prophet here, just using something called common sense. Vick misses games no secrets here. Lol at the constant crying about negativity on here…No dude just being realistic. Do I hope the guy plays 16 games next season and wins the SB…yes absolutely.
BTW Yes you are so correct short man…fans are the reason we haven’t won the superbowl thats it you solved it, you should win an award for that brilliant statement…yes were the ones that actually play in the games, coach the players, manage the FO, and are listed under the Philadelphia Eagles payroll.

And I don’t want Kolb back here, could care less about him…it was a joke and just a random thought to throw out there. Like you said he can’t stay healthy either. The last thing I think this team needs is 2 QBs who are injury prone.

Butch007
Butch007
February 1, 2012 11:11 pm

The problem I have with these types of criticisms is that it doesn’t take into account the fact that the O-Line was leakier than a busted pipe for 99.8% of the season. Vick has clearly already become a pass first, buy more time to pass and then run as a last resort QB. A vast majority of the hits he took were in the pocket and largely due to O-Line breakdowns. IN OTHER WORDS ITS DECEPTIVE TO PUT THE TEAM’S SUCCESS/FAILURE ON VICK’S ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY WITHOUT EVEN MENTIONING THE O-LINE.

drummerwinslow
February 1, 2012 11:40 pm

The “QB Guru” has had:

Doug Pederson
Koy Detmer
Donovan McNabb
Jeff Garcia
A.J. Feeley
Mike McMahon
Kevin Kolb
Michael Vick
Vince Young

He’s had both pocket passers and scramblers. McNabb and Vick got by on athleticism, and none of the others went on to do anything. Most telling, Kevin Kolb was benched in favor John Skelton after less than one season, despite being chosen by Reid and groomed for years.

Who did Reid coach-up?