Peyton Manning Is The LeBron James Of The NFL: A Choker In Big Games
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All the Peyton Manning talk is over the top. Whichever team gets him isn’t going to win a Super Bowl. Manning isn’t a big game quarterback. He plays his best football during the regular season, not in the playoffs. Remember he has won only one Super Bowl and threw two interceptions in that game and was bailed out by his defense.
Both LeBron James and Manning may be the greatest players to ever play in the regular seasons of their respective sports. Manning is truly magnificent prior to the snap with the way he changes the play to run the best play against the defense.
I’ve seen him carve up defenses like it was a piece of cake.
Of course James has more career left than Manning, but both have underperformed in the post season. I’ve seen Manning get destroyed by the Patriots numerous times. I saw him play poorly against the Kansas City Chiefs in the year in which the Colts won the championship, but he was bailed out by the Indy defense.
The media’s over-hyping this whole thing because he’s been a great regular season quarterback, but remember he’s won only one Super Bowl in 13 years of playing in the NFL. Can you be the best ever going 1 for 13.
I could still understand Andy Reid being interested in Manning because he is a great quarterback and would be an improvement over Michael Vick, but like James, he doesn’t take his game to another level in the playoffs like All-Time greats like a Joe Montana or Michael Jordan.
Check out the stats, Manning has come up very small in the playoffs.
Even in the one Super Bowl which he won, Manning didn’t play well. He beat a mediocre Chicago Bears team led by Rex Grossman, who threw an interception which was run back for a touchdown. In the Super Bowl which the Colts lost, Manning came up very small by throwing an interception which was returned for a touchdown and cost the Colts the game.
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What are you talking about?
2006 Postseason
Total Defense (YPG) Complete List
1. Indianapolis Colts 238.5
2. Baltimore Ravens 261.0
3. New York Giants 323.0
4. San Diego Chargers 327.0
5. Seattle Seahawks 327.5
Peyton had some very good defenses.
@ drummer…since this debate really doesn’t effect my team, I have less real interest, but to point to an article that is 6 years old, a year prior to Manning winning the SB by 12 points over the Bears isn’t really a completely valid argument. I wonder if the author, Bob Cook would even agree completely with his original story 6 years later?
I mean, I would bet that you can go back in history and find stories written about Rich Kotite that will state what a great coach he was, but I doubt that you would pull one of those stories today to try and prove that he isn’t the idiot coach that we all know he turned out to be…do you see my analogy?
To Brummer
2006 Colts Defense was very good and was about the only conistent one they had for most of his Tenure..
Remember that had Bob Sanders, Marlin JAckson (When they were healthy)
And younger Freeney and MAthis (who were in their primes)
LB’s Brackett/Rob Morris/Cato June and the biggest thing they had goin for them was a great HC in Tony Dungy… When he left, Jim Caldwell and their Front Office ran that Colts Team into the Ground in my opinion ..
drummer, the point of that article was that he is a ‘choker’ therefore he can’t win a SB. That was proven wrong. If something is proven wrong, why do you use it for support? Should we tell Katrina victims to not worry about it because the world is flat?
It’s the same logic as all those who say “the Eagles will never win a SB with Reid” – if they win next year, then that’s bullshit.
There’s more than one article.
The fact of the matter is that Peyton ended a lot of seasons with interceptions before the SB win and he resumed doing so after it.
Oh, so multiple people said things that were proven wrong that you are citing?
Please see the articles AFTER the SB win. They’re the same thing. Peyton continued to fold in the post-season after the SB win. Don’t you guys watch football? Is your memory that bad? Weed, maybe?
“The fact of the matter is that Peyton ended a lot of seasons with interceptions before the SB win and he resumed doing so after it.”
Agreed – and that proves….. what?
You know who won a superbowl, and then continued being perfect? I forget the guy’s name but he spends his free time with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Trying to point out that a guy who is amazing and accomplished the highest level of success is flawed and doesn’t always succeed is a stupid worthless exercise.
Jordan is a horrible NBA owner. Guess he’s not such a great basketball guy…
@drummer….so you felt that this was such an important story that you Googled Peyton Manning Chokes to find old articles…..dude, I thought you had issues by watching games filling out a spreadsheet, but you need to find a hobby…lol…what ever makes you tick drummer….
Pats win as Manning interception ends Colts comeback
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 21, 2010, 7:20 PM EST
Another great Colts-Patriots game ended with a Peyton Manning interception, as New England jumped out to a big lead, the Colts stormed back, and the Patriots ultimately won 31-28.
Manning completed 38 of 52 passes for 396 yards and four touchdowns, but this game will be remembered more for his three interceptions, including one that James Sanders grabbed at New England’s 6-yard line with 31 seconds to play. If Manning had played it safe on that play the Colts were in range for an Adam Vinatieri field goal that could have sent the game into overtime, but Manning decided to take a chance at winning the game in regulation, and Sanders made him pay for it with a great leaping interception.
Tom Brady made fewer big plays than Manning but also fewer mistakes, completing 19 of 25 passes for 186 yards, with two touchdowns and no interceptions. Brady was also helped out by the Colts’ defense not making him pay for his biggest mistake; Brady threw a terrible pass right into the hands of linebacker Tyjuan Hagler late in the fourth quarter, but Hagler dropped it.
For most of the game it looked like the Patriots would win easily. New England had a 14-0 lead early in the second quarter, a 21-7 lead late in the second quarter, and a 31-14 lead with eight minutes to play in the fourth quarter.
But Manning led a big comeback with two fourth-quarter touchdown passes to Blair White, and when the Colts’ defense forced New England to punt late in the fourth quarter, it appeared that the Colts were in position to come back and win.
Instead, Manning made his ill-fated pass, Sanders made his great interception, and the Patriots escaped with the win in another great game between two great franchises.
Super Bowl XLIV vs. New Orleans Saints (L 31–17) Against his hometown team, Manning led the Colts to a 10–0 lead after their two first quarter drives, throwing a TD pass to Pierre Garcon to cap off a 96 yard drive (tied for longest in Super Bowl history). After running just six plays in the second quarter, the Colts led 10–6 at halftime. The Saints recovered an onside kick to start the second half and took their first lead, 13–10. Manning led a go ahead TD drive to regain the lead. Leading 17–16 at the start of the 4th quarter, Matt Stover missed a 51 yard field goal for the Colts. The Saints scored the go ahead TD and two-point conversion to take a 24–17 lead with 5:42 left. Manning took over and moved the Colts to the Saints’ 31 yard line. Facing a 3rd & 5 with 3:24 left, his pass intended for Reggie Wayne was intercepted by Tracy Porter, who returned it 74 yards for a critical TD and 31–17 Saints lead. Manning drove the Colts down to the 5 yard line in the last minute, but his 4th & goal pass was dropped by Reggie Wayne at the goal line. The Saints won their first Super Bowl, dropping Manning to 9–9 in the postseason (1–1 Super Bowl record). Manning passed for 333 yards on 31/45, with 1 TD and 1 interception.[166]
2007
Manning and the Colts lost to the Chargers, 28–24. Manning could not lead a final touchdown drive for the win
Post season QB rating of 88.4
You guys build up these superheros and when the facts are revealed, some of you get angry. So sorry.
Green
When G put down the facts, so many became upset. I merely added some more facts, supporting G’s stand. I couldn’t care one way or another. My life does not revolve around the NFL or GCobb.com. I fully understand that people often re-write history to their liking.
not upset man….he doesn’t play for my team, and he is not “my guy” as you may believe…. but G compared him to the ultimate over-rated choker in “King James”….they guy DID win a superbowl, more than you can say for any QB we have ever had here
@ drummer…using your logic, Dan Marino is another stiff…Dan Marino, who still stands as one of the most productive players in history and continues to hold numerous passing records. Marino’s supporters say he did not win a Super Bowl because he had no defense and no running game and had to carry the team himself. But that wasn’t the reason why Marino never won a Super Bowl.
Marino never won a Super Bowl because he habitually threw interceptions in the playoffs. Marino played in 18 postseason games in his career. He posted an 8-10 mark in those 18 games.
•When Marino threw fewer than 2 INTs, the Dolphins were 7-1.
•When Marino threw 2 INTs or more, the Dolphins were just 1-9.
Green
Not at all. I feel Marino and Fouts were two great QBs, but their coaches didn’t put them in position to win. Their offenses lacked balanced, which affected their defense (much like our Eagles). However, the fact of the matter is that Manning threw a lot of picks at key times. He was known as a choker for years and he went right back to choking after a SB win.
Peyton had defenses and running games, Edgerin James, off the top of my head.
Gotta bounce. Time to practice, sorry.
WOW!!!! I never thought I’d see the day when GCOBB told the truth about one of the Holy Trinity….LOL!!!! I swear Armageddon is right around the corner. I wouldn’t have believed it if I didn’t see it with my own eyes.
Bottom line Peyton is better than Vick period.
I actually agree with the comments in the playoffs he falls off, but even saying that he is still better than vick. There really is nothing to discuss period.
I will say this without question eli is way more clutch than peyton way more and that’s the truth. But peyton is way better than vick way better.
I’m back. What a workout! Nothing like good music!
As far as Vick is concerned, he’s not even in the conversation when discussing top 100 QBs. He’s yet to prove a thing, other than the fact that he’s willing to work. His drop-off at the end of the 2010 season and his showing last season have begun to seal his legacy as an incredible athlete who lacks the tools to be a Superbowl-winning QB. Keeping in mind that Eli threw 25 picks last season, Vick’s got one more chance to show he’s at least capable. As everyone on site already knows, I also blame Reid for a great deal of his failure. It’s the Marino/Fouts sydndrome, not that I’m comparing Vick to either, just comparing the circumstances.
Pdiddy, I agree that Eli is head and shoulders better than Peyton in the clutch. He made a BIG liar out of me! I also admire the fact the he just restructured his contract so that the team could sign players. I have a lot of respect for Eli, but Peyton’s way over-hyped.
Let me add this. For my money, Brady was the best in this era. Like most QBs, however, once he suffered that major injury, he hasn’t been as clutch. He’s missed open receivers and made some bone-headed plays when the defensive pressure was on, but that’s just human nature. Roethlisberger is the ONLY QB I’ve ever seen who takes a licking and keeps on ticking. I thought he’d been done after the motor vehicle accident. Since then, he’s played with broken feet and an assortment of major injuries. I’ve watched that guy get pounded for an entire game (heck, against the Eagles), and stand tall in the pocket with time ticking down, just to throw a strike for a win.
STOP!…G, you agitating again: this isn’t WIP!
If Manning a choker, what about Brady, Welker & Ray Lewis?
No one man wins championship in NFL, you know this…
This really should be front page during the whole free agent period. All the Peyton Manning talk has been nauseating for me honestly. For the vast majority of his career he’s had the best receivers, the best Tight End and arguably the best pass defending O-Line in football…with that he has one Superbowl victory and like Gary said were it not for the defense outperforming their “on paper” talent he would have been a loser again. When you start comparing QBs to the “Best” there’s no other QB to compare to than Joe Montana…to go one more maybe Steve Young. I would take either one of those guys in their prime over Manning without thinking twice about it, because they were the best and Manning as “The Best” is just a lot of hype that sells quite a bit of advertisement.