Many Texans not happy with Ryans trade
AFC News, BREAKING NEWS, Eagles, Linebackers, News, NFL Wednesday, March 21st, 2012
On the surface, it would seem that the Houston Texans motivation for moving two-time Pro Bowl LB DeMeco Ryans to the Philadelphia Eagles was based on business. They only got a fourth-round pick (plus the swap of the thirds), but cleared some $6 million in cap space off the books for this year. So while the Texans’ brass may feel like they loosened up their cap situation, many players, according to Jerome Solomon of the Houston Chronicle, don’t appreciate the move.
Here are some texts that he received from players regarding the Ryans trade:
“WTF!! You know what they are up to?”
“Damn, man, and they talk about loyalty.”
“Cold-blooded, man, cold-blooded. But Meco will be better off for it. He’s going to dominate in Philly.”
“They don’t what leadership means, do they? Bet they won’t finish No. 2 in defense next season.”
“It’s an ugly business. We’re not the same team without him. Gonna take a lot to replace Meco.”
And keep in mind these are players that just saw the Texans let Mario Williams walk out of town. They seem to be more upset about this than from losing one of the best pass rushers in the game. Oh, and losing Eric Winston wasn’t exactly a popular move either. But this? DeMeco Ryans? This one seems to have set them off.
Several Texans players took to Twitter as well to go on record with their thoughts:
Owen Daniels: “Seriously? Meco too?”
Brian Cushing: “I wouldn’t be half the player or person I am today without @DRyans59 this one hurts. Philly got a unbelievable player and leader today. #59″
Glover Quin: “Honored to have had the chance to play with and learn from @DRyans59.. True leader and great person… Preciate you bro.”
Eric Winston (to Owen Daniels): “Watch you(r) back kid. @owendaniels you’re the last ’06 guy left.”
So, even if you know nothing about DeMeco Ryans and have never seen him play, you can get a clear sense just from these quotes of what kind of player, person and leader the guy is. The Eagles got a steal, I think that much is clear.
Even if he gets hurt on day 1 and never plays a down for the Birds, this is a great move. Even if he’s a total turd that’s used improperly by Juan Castillo (certainly possible), this is a great move. The upside that comes with this fourth-round pick and swap of thirds is tremendous. What would they have done with that fourth-round pick anyway, take a 231-lb. defensive end from a college that no one has heard of and tell us he’s a fastball coming off the edge? Exactly.
According to Solomon, the Texans rarely release statements on players who are cut or shipped out of town. But, GM Rick Smith did just that, apparently with a team PR person who should be fired.
“DeMeco Ryans contributed significantly toward helping us build the foundation we hope will bring a world championship to the city of Houston,” Smith said in the statement. “His professionalism and leadership cannot be over-exaggerated. This move was mutually beneficial for the Texans immediate and long-term goals, DeMeco’s career, and the Philadelphia Eagles. We appreciate all the hard work and effort DeMeco invested in our organization and wish him only the best moving forward. He is a class act.”
SIDE NOTE: This is why the PR person should be fired (okay maybe that’s harsh). For those of you who aren’t in the public relations field or don’t know how this works, these words never left Smith’s lips. These PR people write up a quote and then run it by Smith to get him to approve it. Smith or his people didn’t catch this error either obviously, but it makes him look stupid. If the term “over-exaggerate” comes out of your mouth in conversation, it’s forgivable. When it’s in a prepared statement, it’s just dumb. You can’t over-exaggerate anything. Exaggerate by definition means you are stretching the truth and overdoing it. These kinds of things bug me. Carry on.
But I digress. If the upside on this deal for the Eagles isn’t obvious, just listen to the reactions of Ryans’ former teammates. They’d know better than anyone. This one goes in the win column for Howie and the rest of the Eagles organization who made it happen.
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Re MLB,
No Playoffs for these 2012 Phils, The Window has Closed…
The Greatest 5-6 Year Run in Phllie History with approx 500 Wins and yet, only 1 Championship to show for it while having one of MLB Highest Payroll’s ove rthis time period … Another disappointment for Philly Sport Fans..
Paulman — They won one and ended the city drought —- I still love Burrell, Myers and Feliz and now the departed Lidge and always will just like the remaining current roster World Series players — 1983(sixers) was too long and the Phillies are the king of the town until another city team knocks them off their champianship perch
Paul, the arrogant philly fan from NC! We got a Chapmionship out of the phillies, incase you had not heard those pesky Championships are fairly hard to come by which is why I guess they make such a big hoopla about them when some team gets one. Guess what we got one, came close to another one so show some dang thanks.
I would love another one by the Phils but don’t give me your “Let down Philadelphia Fan” crap, not right now “Wonder Boy” wait for when we have a real non competitive baseball drought, other wise As a famed Military chacater in a popular Vietnam war film, “I piss on you”.
Sorry Paul my brother, but sometimes Plilly bitching wears me thin, no offense my dude…still though “I piss on you.”
Correction:
As a famed military character in a famed Vietnam war film ONCE SAID………
Ed Rendell was right, Philly fans have gotten soft…
As far AR interest’s in Manning,
Name me an NFL Coach not interested in Manning, that doesn’t have a Brady,Brees,Rodgers playing for them…
I stated from th get go that Peyton was not going to direct compete directly with ElI and would not play for the NY Jets or any of the NFC East Team, so whether Coach AR, Shannahan, Rex Ryan or Jerry Jones was interested, it wasn’t going to happen for he was no going to invade his brothers Turf..
Pman – anyone – stuck at a 2 hour Vball practice – anyone interested in chatting Eagle football -
The McNabb trade is now complete. The Eagles got Nate Allen, Casey Matthews, and DeMeco Ryans for good ol’ #5. Thanks Redskins.. I feel we’ve made out like bandits overall if you really think about it..
JH agree – big question – do you draft another LB or go DT in first round – I am re-thinking and think we should get ANOTHER LB – Kuelchy – he can start as SLB and if ther is an issue with Ryans – he can be the MLB – I thought our DL was a strength last year
Correct Navy. There are alot of options there. The dline was strong yes but there are an aging group. Cullen Jenkins just turned 32 in January and Mike Patterson is coming back from a tricky brain surgery so we need players there. But i see your reasoning on the LB bc i feel the same way, they can put Keuchley or Ryans in any of the LB positions bc they both have experience playing all there so there interchangeable.. I say go for the best DT or best LB available.. if they see that Keuchley is dropping i would trade up for him. keep in mind there there are a slew of LBs and DTs in this draft so if there guys were taken i would consider trading down too.. alot of options there at 15…
arer you surprised they did not/have not yet made more effort with Landri?
on O – I see them picking up a veteran RB to work in w/ McCoy and Lewis – maybe Buress – other then that – solid on O…
I will not be upset if they go DT or LB – I think they may need 2 more LBs – not sure what to think – one mock had then taking a CB 1st rd? You think Samuel stays or goes? I thought he would be gone….
I fdon’t see the Eagles resigning LAndi for they will draft a DT in the early rounds, and remember there is practice squad DT named Cedric Thornton who the Eagles are really high on.. remember he made the intial 53 man Roster last Season only to be moved to the Practice Squad once they picked up Guard Devan since Watkins wasn’t ready yet… Thornton goes 6-4 310lbs and is a big guy who has a little hops in intial burst… He is definitely a player to watch this Camp..
Check out my 1st Round surprise picks Navy on the other thread..
I will check it out – 8-11 5 minutes left
Navy– im very shocked they havent tried to resign Landry. I guess they view him as a guy thats not a top priority and that they can get another guy who can produce like he did.. they go young DT in this draft very early, possibly in the 1st round. You dont want to miss out on one of these dominant DTs this year.. It doesnt look like Burress will be here, where will you put him as the 3rd wr? Hes not gonna play special teams, hes not a young guy being 35yrs old.. Samuels could be gone as early as next week or during draft weekend, i cant picture a scenario that involves him staying in Philly, wont happen, hes a goner..
It’s going to be very difficult to trade Samuel, the entire NFL knows the Eagles will end up releasing him so Teams that who like hiim will be in no rush to offter the Eagles anything substanial and can’t wait until he’s release and becomes a Free-Agent..The Eagles may be better off to package him with one of their Draft Picks to a team in need to move up in the Draft..
For Example, trade Samuel and Eagles 5th Round Pick to the Vikings for their 3rd Round Pick.. But thiose thinking he’s going to return a 2nd Round oick by himself are fooling himself, he’s not the player he was 2 years ago and unless any team can re-work his Contract, it’s hands off most likely..
I hate to even mention this, the Cowboys believe it or not, could be on the Team interesting in acquiring him..Jerry Jones has always been fond of Samuel’s playing style and missed out on ASMO last years.. They did sign Brandon Carr from the Chiefs, did release Terrance Neweman and have since the othe CB Mike Jeknins get worse and worse over the last 2 Seasons.. Anothe rTeam is the Panthers but they don’t have enough Cap Space.. I think the Eagles end up basically giving him away….
A team in dire need of a CB are the Lions who lost their best CB in Eric Wright to the T BBucs thru Free-Agency and playing the Packers,Bears (with WR Marshall) a strong CB is needed.. Lions are tight with their Cap though and just signed MLB Tullock to a big contract which may be the only Free-agent they sign and concentrate on the Draft instead..
Paulman if so many teams need a DB why would they want to compete against each other for a released Samuel? Wouldnt a team trade for him to make sure they get him? To say he cant be traded is ridiculous. Theres plenty of teams that would trade for him. It might not be a 1st or 2nd round pick right now but a 3rd or 4th is better than releasing him. Another thing if the Eagles were so anxious to trade or release him why is he still here? There waiting for teams to spend all their money? To sign all the FA DBs? Why is he still here? Why isnt he already released or traded?
Another thing with Samuels. You dont think Samuels and his agent have talked to the Eagles about him being released? Dont you think they said release him early so he has more teams to chose from? Also the Eagles have a history of doing the right thing with releasing players early so they have more options. Its not the Eagles style to screw players (especially former ProBowl players)and leave them hanging.
Beavause none of them are going to want to pay 9.5 Million to Samuel to a 31 Year Old CB whose lost a 1/2 step and has swelling knee issues about every Decemeber.. They Reason he is still on Roster for the Eagles wil want to try to trade him to get something in return or use him in a pacjage deal..
I would not be surprised to see a Trade being worked on but maybe not finalized yet wtith the Panthers for a Deal for RB Jonathon Stewart and maybe some swapping around some Draft PIckls..
Eagles send a 6th Round Pick & CB Samuel for RB Stewart and their 4th Round Pick for example..)
if we plan on making a run this year i think we should keep asante samuel..
I am sure Samuels and His Agent probably gave them a list of 3-4 Teams that he would want to play for and the EAgles are trying to get something in returns.
TB Bucs has CB needs but signed CB Eric Wright and Resigned R Barber so they are Set at CB and don’t need Samule
Also, many made a big deal about Eagles LB Coach Mike Caldwell running the LB Drills at the Boston Co llege Pro-Day… He also did the same thing and the University of Nevada.. Hello MLB J ames-Michael Johnson in the 4th/5th Round … . Eagles also Interviewed LB Keenan Robinson while down at the Sniro Bowl…
unless they draft a corner with the first pick we cant trade samuel.. hes are best corner
Larrwd– Bro sorry to break it to you but Asante may be a goner before then.. hes not going to like being the 3rd cb on the team, this team plays a different style on defense now, more press coverage, man2man, not a strength of Asante.. they have a younger, faster corner in DRC who looked better than Asante did this year when as the RCB.. not a good look for Asante, on top of it all he would get paid 9.5ms, hes never going to see that money here.. they may have a deal in place already that might need to be finalized next week during owners meetings or may be revisited during draft week, anything is possible but it appears that Asante is certainly the odd man out..
I really don’t think they want to go into the OTA/CAmps with the 3 Ring CB Circus that happened last Year.. No one has reallymentioned it, but I don’t Believe Samuel was real welcoming to both Asmo & DCR and that there was a friction from the get gowhen the both come on board, put that on top of new DC, New Secondary Coach and distrust and disaster happened with each player in the Secondary kind of playing for themself and doing their own thing and it wasn’t really to the final few weeks that the Secondary actualyl bnegan to gel and play together as a unit and I belive a big part of that was Samuel not being part of the equation… they need to cut th echord if need be and start OTa/CAmps with the minimal amounf of distractions as possible..
Samuel brings alot of baggage with him, he has too much ego, arrogance and selfishness.. it’s all about him and his stats.. hes not hungry anymore, when i see him i see a guy who is trying to pat his stats so he can be a HOF, he has his SB championships, all he doesnt have is that HOF jacket.. he doesnt care enough about team and or his teammates or winning anymore… And thats just part of the reason why i see them getting rid of Asante, the other half is money related and a crowded crop of CBs.. the birds are staying far away from drama this year, last year they wanted the attention, they learned there lesson, now theyre trying to fly under the radar.. Asante’s biggest mistake was last years training camp with the stunt he pulled not showing up the first few days then came in with alot of arrogance and talking junk saying if they want my big play ability they wont trade me and yada yada, that definitely didnt sit well with this team/front office, he made it all about him.. hes not going to stick around guys, he will be traded or flat out released, but i see him being traded soon here..
I disagree samuels instills fear in quarterbacks.. I heard eli manning say last year he wouldnt even throw samuels way.. i like asante
Asante is as good as gone. They are not going to get anything for him, & will have to outright release him. He’s a matador, & couldn’t tackle a corpse. Good riddance! Another overpaid, overrated stiff, that never lived up to their hype & billing. I don’t know who is worse, he, Stinkadala, or Briere? Just GTFO, & don’t let the door hit you in the turd cutter!
larrwd, he couldn’t instill fear, in a cupie doll. Come on dude, what games have you been watching, over the last 2 seasons? He takes too many gambles, gets burnt more than the plays he makes, he is a non-factor in the tackling department, & when an oppositions offense gets in the red-zone, he is as good as burnt for 6. Also he is a non-team, selfish, locker room, cancer. SEE YA WOULDN’T WANNA BE YA!
@DCAR Samuel is actually a better tackler than Nnamdi and DRC. Isnt that something.