Report: Reid wanted Manning and more control
BREAKING NEWS, Coaching Staff, Eagles, News, Quarterbacks Friday, March 23rd, 2012
It’s not often that you get big Philadelphia Eagles insider news out of the Los Angeles Times, but it seems that there are some nuggets in today’s edition that will be quite interesting for Birds fans.
Sam Farmer cites two NFL sources – who wished to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the situation – who say that Andy Reid was prepared to walk away from the Eagles this past offseason if he didn’t get more control.
Oh…where do I start?
There has definitely been some confusion in the last couple years about the actual power structure within the Eagles organization (from an outsiders perspective, let’s give them the benefit of the doubt that there is no internal confusion…I hope). Many said that Reid had lost a lot of his juice and wasn’t making all the decisions anymore. Howie Roseman is the general manager, but how much say does he have in actual football decisions? And where is Joe Banner in all of this? And who has the ultimate final ruling? I’ve spoken to several people who cover the team and asked them about who has final say at this point. No one really had an answer.
So, many assumed that it was Reid, because that’s how it used to be and other in the front office like Roseman have maintained that Reid still had final say. So, he’d be the one to largely blame for the absolute debacle that was the 2011 season. He’d be the one with his head on the chopping block, only to be saved by Jeffrey Lurie at the last minute. Well, according to this report, that doesn’t seem to be the case. Maybe Andy was cooking dinner in 2011 with groceries that someone else bought, and he was tired of falling short for it. It’s possible that Andy was tired of taking flack for things that he knew internally he had no control over.
So now, according to the report, Andy has more control over personnel now. Could this be a reason for re-signing so many of the Eagles own players? Does this have anything to do with a DeSean Jackson deal getting done? I’m not sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
There is another interesting little piece of information in the Times article that Michael Vick fans might not appreciate. Reid wanted in on the Peyton Manning sweepstakes several weeks ago, but his interest chilled when he found out that Peyton had no interest in playing his little brother twice a year. I guess there must be a lot of outs in that $100 million contract that Vick has.
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for a young QB in the later rounds.. to develop – check out Ryan Lindley from San Diego State – SDSU had a solid O but the D was poor – Niel Odonnel before him was back up in New England a couple years – there is a super QB coach out here that played for Jim Tressel in college that has developed (he doesn’t coach a team – just QBs) guys like Tate Forcier (staretd at Michagan as a Frosh) – and Lindley was one of his projects..
dtime they lost one of their DE to Cleveland in Juqua Parker so they have a need at DE
Hey when are those cap penalties going to kick in for the Cowgirls and Skins 10 mil and 38 mil respectively over next two seasons.
I am making a call early on this season fellas, I believe that the ball is going to bounce our way this time like the old Andy Days except this time we push through. If you disagree, backup partner I am having a moment here!!!!!
Monolith the birds O is ready but they still need 3 more starters on D to compete with playoff teams
QB lindley has some potential from San Diego State and has a live arm ..
He does remind me a little of a AJ Feely, kind of a statute back there and has a tendancy to stare down receivers like a lot of young QB do.. If Eagles could grab QB K Cousins in the 3rd/4th Round, then maybe I would take him, outside of that, I am not drafting any QB in the group after the Top 3 in Luck, RGIII and Tannehill who will all be off the Board at #1 (Colts-Luck) #2 (Redskins-RGIII) and #4 (Browns-Tannehill)
Vick is QB for the Eagles and trent Edwards/Kafka should battle it out for #2 and all 3 of these Wagles WB’s need as many reps as they can get come Camp time as the Eagles really need to really learn a lot about Edwards/Kafka to see what their future’s holds.. Next Year could be time to Draft a QB…
Not buying it
One tarea being overlooked is the Offensive Backfield
After Shady McCoy ,there really is no one else with NFL experiece
There is no experienced FB and both back-up RB’s are not True #2 Caliber NFL RB’s yet…
Maybe a deal with the Panthers who signed RB Tolbert to a 4 Year Deal and still have RB’s DeAngelo WIlliams, Jonathon Stewart and also a 3rd Year RB who also returns Kick-Offs by the name of Mike Goodson…
Maybe the Eagles can make a deal including CB Samuel or a DT Patterson for RB Stewart or Goodson and a Draft Pick…
Also there are plenty of Veterans RB out there like a Justin Forsett,Cedrick Benson, Ryan Grant, Joseph Addia,Jerious Norwood, tchester Taylor, Kevin Smith that all have experience and may have 1-2 Years to give in a complimentary role to spell McCoy but be ready to carry the load in the event if McCoy were to get injured and would not cost much (like Ronnie Brown) .
i think dion lewis is a very good # 2.. but at fullback we have some problems.. i had hoped stanley havilli would have been a difference maker.. so maybe we should address that
Lewis is unproven and needs to be a huge step forward this years.. He runs too scared in my opinion..
Fullback problems, there is no FB on the Roster under Contract unless you count Practice Squad player S Havilli who was a late Draft pick last yer but still unproven and was so-so during his ROokie Campaign at last yers camp..
I hope they utilize TE C Harbor at the FB/HB position and let him get some reps, at 6-2 246lbs, Harbor can do well from the FB positiin iwith pass blocking and receiving the ball out of the backfield, run some wheel routes..
lewis doesnt run scared at all when at halfback.. he runs stronger than mccoy.. maybe on kick off returns.. hes not built to be a kick off returner..having him back there is just stupid
Deasr– There could be another move on the horizon. Roseman is quoted as saying expect another move come owners meeting week. So we ll see, if nothing happens next week than a move could come draft weekend.. if Asante isnt traded then he could be flat out released but i believe they are trying to trade him.. so again a move can be made next week or closer to draft weekend or on draft weekend..
Jon Hart — Howie really said expect another move? when is owners week?
Paul, i havent overlooked the RB position at all, i mentioned weeks ago that if i was the eagles i would draft the kid from Alabama Trent Richardson if he begins to fall. We need a bruiser back there badly, someone that can get the tough yards and could spell LMcCoy who is only 23/24 yrs old but years of a RB in the league are extremely short..
E0S- Owners week is next week..
aint noway in heck we’re drafting trent richardson.. im confident in saying noway nohow
I like Addai as the back-up if possible – Eagles started to use Celek as hybrid FB TE last year and loved the formation with Harbor, Celek and McCoy in back field – and Harbor and Celek shift – I would not be surprised if the team did not have a FB on the roster – I think the statistic was like 17% of plays last year? Anyone remember how much Schmitt played?
right now there is only one fullback on the roster stanley havili.. schmitt is a free agent i guess..
**NFL News
-Viking Resign LB Erin Henderson to a 1 Year Deal
-Broncos sign 2 TE’s Jacob Tamme from the Colts and the underated TE Joel Dressen from the Texans to give some Weapons to Throw to in Denver
- Colts had busy day, they lost Center Jeff Saturday who signed with the Packers, Signed WR Donnie Avery from Rams, Acquired QB Drew Stanton and Announced that OL Ryan Diem is retiring..
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Schmitt will not return. They may be looking to add a veteran FB soon..
Not a whole lot of FB’s out ther, a quick list of probably the best available
-Jacob Hester from the Chargers
- Ahmard Hall from the Titans
- Mike Sellars from th Redskins
- Mike Cox from the Falcons
This is about it.. The top 2-3 already signed with teams.. Eagles may be better off Resigning Schmitt who at least knows the System and will play hard, show up every day and be a Profesional and can play a some Special Teams..
Schmitt best choice at FB…Lewis good running back, let him play…Players get in Eagles doghouse but I don’t understand why…KR a ? …
Eagle Dog House? Frank you are perfectly right on that, some desrve it, and some don’t, none should be in there for long. Lewis I think can be a good back up, perhaps this year they will give the kid more reps. I think that they just wanted to get him on the feel and get some playing time so they placed him on KR. Eagles may get a KR/PR player so lewis just might get a few more reps.
The offense will be on fire this season, and will bring the fear this time around. Book that Danno.
They may go zach brown at #15, then draft DT Alamed Ta’amu from washington in the second. My sources tell me this may happen(draftsite.com) Lol.
Interesting picks pdiddy..
NFL DraftScout.com has Zach Brown rated as the 34th Ranked Prospect in the Draft and 3rd best rated OLB behind IM ngram & C Upshaw who are more 3-4 Scheme Players where they rush the passer more while Zach Brown is the more traditional OLB who is better sutied for a 4-3 Scheme which the Eagles run..
The Browns will NOT draft TANNENHILL with the 4th pick. Right now, Miami is the logical landing spot for him. I still believe Andy will move up to 7 and get him. Tannenhill needs at least a year to be ready to play at the NFL level, and Vick is only guaranteed 1 more year. I doubt the Eagles want to find themselves in the position of being FORCED to find their QB of the future next year – especially if Vick has another spotty season.
FORGET THE SCOUTS, ALL THE EXPERTS AND ALL THE OTHER CRAP. AS EAGLES FANS WE KNOW FOOTBALL AND WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED. I BELIEVE THE EAGLES NEED TO SURE UP THE MIDDLE PERIOD. THEY GOT ON PIECE IN RYAN AND THEY NEED THAT BIG DT SO TEAMS CAN’T RUN THE BALL DOWN OUR THROATS(DA BEARS). REMEBER THIS EVERYONE, THE BEST DEFENSE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN PHILLY, WAS ANCHORED BY THE GREAT JEROME BROWN. ONCE JEROME BROWN DIED, OUR DEFENSE WAS NEVER THAT GREAT AGAIN. THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION ON D LINE IS THE TACKLE POSITION. DE’S GET ALL THE GLORY BUT DT’S DO ALL THE DIRTY WORK. UNTIL WE GET A TACKLE THAT CAN DO BOTH STOP THE RUN AND PENETRATE TO CREATE PRESSURE OUR DEFENSE WILL NEVER BE GREAT.
Sorry, I had to get that off my chest I had a diddy moment Lol. AND IF SETH JOYNER WANTS TO COACH THE DAM LINEBACKERS WHY NOT. WHO WAS BETTER SETH OR FREEKIN MIKE CALDWELL. Sorry I had another moment. You guys have a great Sat.
I normally agree with people like Navy and Paulman. I guess I’m missing something but I’ve listed below why I think the Eagles need to draft Ryan Tannehill in the 1st round.
The Eagles normally draft 23 thru 28
It almost impossible to get into the top ten from 20 thru 28 without giving up the farm. Just ask the Redskins.
Drafting at 15 is one of the few times that the Eagles can move and get one of the top rated quarterbacks.
Most of the need positions of DT and LB can be had without too much of a drop off of talent in the 2nd round.
Normally in order to win the Super bowl you need a top 5 quarterback
Normally top 5 quarterback’s are drafted in the 1st round.
Michael Vick is not a top 5 quarterback
Vick is going to be 32 and normally does not finish a season without getting hurt.
We don’t need another late round quarterback. The Eagles have Mike Kafka
The eagles will make a strong push to get in position to draft Matt Barkley next year. My sources told me so.
with the addition of ryans ,a product of alabama . i say lets get some more alabama blood on this team !
Oh and when I say my sources, I am fooling around guys I am not making fun of anyone just having fun on here that’s all. For those who have real sources do your thing I appreciate when you guys fill us in on legit stuff.
I thought Paulman was your source Pdiddy… You hurt my feelings… ha ha
Residing in San Diego, if Lindley is to be a serviceable starting quarterback he’s going to be a late bloomer. Right now he’s just another guy when discussing the pro level. He’s not accurate, takes too many chances with an occasional tight-window completion, and I don’t want to say lacks instincts, but they’re very questionable.
With Philly QBs for the past decade, Reid/Marty develop QBs into their system and make it work, not so much to improve the player to succeed elsewhere.
The guy to look at from the Aztecs is the running back, Ronnie Hillman. He hits the hole decisively and has a nose for the endzone. Whoever gets him in the mid-rounds will hit with this guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyNWPk7Oq90
(whoever posted this was excited when putting a title to it lol)
Defensively, OLB Miles Burris could pan out as a late round pick as well. Some people down here like CB Larry Parker but all bias aside, he’s very involved but for that to translate to the pro level is a bit of a stretch. That’s all for SDSU football…
OLB Miles Burris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtlONCH8jPA
(no highlight reel from last season)
CB Larry Parker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4da9ewkgFM
Residing in San Diego, if Lindley is to be a serviceable starting quarterback he’s going to be a late bloomer. Right now he’s just another guy when discussing the pro level. He’s not accurate, takes too many chances with an occasional tight-window completion, and I don’t want to say lacks instincts, but they’re very questionable.
With Philly QBs for the past decade, Reid/Marty develop QBs into their system and make it work, not so much to improve the player to succeed elsewhere.
The guy to look at from the Aztecs is the running back, Ronnie Hillman. He hits the hole decisively and has a nose for the endzone. Whoever gets him in the mid-rounds will hit with this guy.
Defensively, OLB Miles Burris could pan out as a late round pick as well. Some people down here like CB Larry Parker but all bias aside, he’s very involved but for that to translate to the pro level is a bit of a stretch. That’s all for SDSU football…
Good Stuff AwolWest
But the way, NavyDave lives out in the San Diego area, look him up for he’s a nice fella if you want to chat football, watch Eagles games..
cool, thanks paulman…by the way i used to be “wmonell” on this site, switched the name up. check out my blog you may be interested awolwest.wordpress (dot) com
Sounds good AW..
I remember “wmonell”, you always had some good points and added to the posts/conversation.. Welcome back..