Will Eagles Follow The Giants Pattern Of Stockpiling Defensive Ends?
BREAKING NEWS, Eagles Draft, News, NFLDraft Sunday, April 22nd, 2012
I got the feeling while sitting in the Eagles Executive dining room last Thursday listening to Eagles GM Howie Roseman that he’s spent a lot of times thinking about how their arch rivals up the New Jersey turnpike, the New York Giants have captured two Super Bowl Championships in recent years.
Reese’s formula for building a championship football team includes drafting the best player available and filling wholes on the roster in via free agency.
“We try to pick the best player”, Reese told the gathered media earlier this week. Later on in his talk with the media, Reese said, “The draft has nothing to do with who is on our team right now, we’re going to draft the best player we can find”.
This is the mentality which Roseman wants to adopt. He wants the Birds to go through this draft with a mentality that’s almost blind to their current roster. Like Reese they want to draft the best player on the board. Reese doesn’t think this draft has 32 first rounders.
Many times with the Giants, that best player has wound up being a big, fast, athletic, pass rushing and playmaking defensive end. Roseman has seen how Reese has stockpiled defensive ends during this championship run. New York currently has three Pro Bowl defensive ends on its roster, Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, and Jason Pierre-Paul and they had to move another talented defensive end, Mathias Kiwanuka to outside linebacker.
This is one of the reasons I believe the Birds could select a defensive end with their first pick. Would the Giants pass up North Carolina Quinton Coples if they had the chance to draft him? I don’t think so. Would they pass up sackmaster Illinois defensive end Whitney Mercilus? I don’t think so.
Coples is falling on draft boards and he would be hard for the Eagles to pass up at 15. He cannot only be a dominating pass rusher from outside at the defensive end position, but he showed during his junior year that he can do an outstanding job of rushing the passer from the defensive tackle position.
Mercilus is an explosive pass rusher, who led the nation in sacks in 2011 with 16 as well as a total of 22 tackles for a loss. The Illinois defense end had an amazing nine forced fumbles in 2011. He’s 6’4″ 260 pounds and like Coples, he has the ability to move inside and effecively rush passer from the defensive tackle position.
There have been questions about Coples taking him plays off and Mercilus not being able play against the run.
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Best DL in the NFC East
#1) Giants (Jpp, Tuckm,Umenyuri,KIawanuka,L Joseph, and remember that last years 2nd Round Pick DT Marvin Austin comes back from injurty)
#2) Redskins (wait to they get High 2nd Round Draft Pick Janoris Jenkins for the 2012 Season, he missed all of last season with torn Achilles)
#3) Eagles (top 3 players COle,Babin and Jenkins are 30+ Year old)
#4) Cowboys
Best LB Corps for 2012
#1) Cowboys (Ware,Spencer, Lee and Bruce Carter, Dan Connor)
#2) Redskins
#3) GIants
#4) Eagles
Best CB’s in the NFC East for 2012
#1) Eagles
#2) Giants
#3) Redskins
#4) Cowboys
Best Safeties in the NFC East for 2012
#1) Giants (Corp of Phillips, Rolle, Deon Grant and Tyler Sash are one of the Top Safety Corps in the NFL)
#2) Redskins (added Brandon Merriweather, Tanard Jackson,Madeiu Williams
#3) Eagles (Jarrett is the wild-card, can he be an NFL Safety at his size and lack of speed, he better tackle and read coverages a lot better in his 2nd Season)
#4) Cowboys (currently have a mess which is why M Barron will be top Pick)
This is why Roseman shouldn’t be the GM… If he actually believes what Reese is saying he’s twice as gullible as I originally thought. There is a point where you A.) Come up with your own plan and B.) Even if you peek over the shoulder of someone else doing a better job than you have enough sense to sniff out the bs.
If you actually look at what the Giants have done and compare that to what Reese is saying you know it’s a crock. The Giants haven’t made a big splash in free agency since the signed Plaxico Burress fresh out of Pittsburgh…yeah Chris Canty doesn’t count. They’ve drafted for need virtually every year for the last 5-6 years If you look at all of their skill position starters on offense and defense all except one or two are players that they drafted. Just as importantly the Giants have zero pressure to win this year having won the Superbowl last year, completely opposite situation as the Eagles. The Eagles shouldn’t be taking queues from them even if that is their plan for this year.
The only thing I can say is if the draft goes drastically different then it has the last couple of years I’m pretty sure we’ll all be able to thank Rick Mueller and not Howie Roseman for that.
The other thing that the Giants and other succesful teams like the Ravens,Steelers,Bears and PAckers have done is not a lot of moving up and down in the Draft.. They get their 6-7 Picks every year and since they are consistently Playoff Teams, they are Drafting anywhere from 20-32 almost every Draft.. These teams seemed not overly concerned about what the counterparts are doing and have a game plan and target specific players based on who is on the board.. After doing this for 4-5-6 Years, you end up with a quality and deep roster trhat can go 2 deep in many positions so these teams don’t have to rely in bringing in a Free-Agent for they all do a much better job of developing players that best fit their schemes.. These teams have had players come and go, coaches come and go, and yet, they are some of the top teams in the NFL year in and year out over the last 10 years or so and in the Steelers case, the last 30 years or so..
These Teams sit tight, draft the best available player on their Draft Board and don’t reach for a player to hope to satisfy a need area.. Until the Eagles learn and start doing this, we will continue to see players like Jaquan Jarrett selected #55 Overall in the 2nd Round (when most had him rated as a 4th/5th Round pick, or a players like Teo Neisham selected 80th when most had him going around 150th (2 rounds later), or when they selected DE Bryan Smith with a 3rd Round Pick when most Scouts had him as a 6th/7th ROund Talent.. They even used a 4th Round pick last year for a Kicker and the next kicker wasn’t selected until the mid-6th Round
It’s one thing to start reachign for players once you hit the 6th/7th Round and take a chance on a player coming back from injuriy or Character flaws but those first 4 rounds (Top 125 Players) an Organization needs to come away with 3-4 players and the worst part is that the Eagles have had multiple pikcs in the 2nd/3rd & 4th Rounds the last few Drafts and have very little to show for it… This 2012 Draft is not full of playmakers & gamechangers, but there are a good 4 Rounds worth of very good players who have bright futures in the NFL and the Eagles need to select about 4-5 of them and then acn roll the dice with their 3 Selections in the 6th Round or trade up/down or for future picks…
wow Pheags – you are beyond fucking stuipid – I mean really beyond fucking stupid – here – try this nice and slow – - -
the discussion is never about who is better between the giants safeties and the eagles safeties – just like it was never about who was better between Cruz and Fitz -
but since you broght them up – if Fitz is better – does that make Cruz ass?
OK idiot – that was the fucking conversation… so congrats – you managed to get andy reid – jerking off stats for one freakin season
dude – you decided to jump in conversation – you posted a buncj of lame ass crap – and you never actually answered the question –
again – the question was never – who has the better safeties – do you get that yet idiot or do I need to post it about 6 more times -
this is the post that started the conversation for the 3rd time:
SONGSRME2
April 23, 2012 – 12:05 pm
ceter…The Giants don’t have a top 5 safety of all times..So why do you think they have been pretty good while our Safeties suck ass?
now based on 2012 – do you agree the Giants safeties are good and ours suck ass? Answer that dipshit -
if you answer is no you dont agree – hey we are in aggreance -
if you agree with that shithead -
then how do you explain (which in your case is to just dismiss) the results of 2012 – the defensive team rankings and the individual statisctics?
is that too hard -
Eagles apologists are @$$! Sorry I had to. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!