Asante Samuel Headed To Atlanta For A Seventh Round Pick
BREAKING NEWS, Eagles, News, Secondary Wednesday, April 25th, 2012
It’s a done deal. Asante Samuel is now an Atlanta Falcon. The Eagles traded him for a seventh round draft pick which very disappointing when you consider how productive Samuel has been here in Philadelphia.
He reworked his contract with the Falcons. Samuel signed a three year deal for $18.5 million dollars today with Atlanta, now the Eagles will be able to line up Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie at their left cornerback position and Nmandi Asomugha at the right cornerback position.
Joselio Hanson has been the Birds nickel back, who lines up on the slot receiver on passing downs in nickel or dime coverages.
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True indeed, Sheed! True indeed!
It most definately was a money move. Who wouldnt want to trade a declining, aging CB who gets paid 10 mil a year. Sounds like a W for the eagles.
Navy – I totally understand what you guys are saying…players have strengths and weaknesses…Asante isn’t solid at press, but who is to say DRC will be better? Who’s to say Castillo will play more press? whos to say we wont see Nnamdi floating around as LB, as a safety? Lets put it this way…If Asante was making 2mil like DRC is due to make this season, would the Eagles have traded Asante? I highly, highly doubt it….
@bugs.. I dont have a problem with trading Asante if they had a better plan. I would attempt to re-work Asante’s deal and keep him and Namdi … People say Asante wouldnt, but I havent heard that from a reputable source, only from a couple of knuckleheads on here… If Andy and the front office tell me they are ‘all in’? I expect to see them man each position with the best players they have on the roster…. If you are gonna trade him? Get something for him.. Don’t compound the mistake you made last year with another one… A 7th round pick is practically worthless… he is not soo old that he cannot be a problem for us for the next 4 years.. he’s 31… thats not that old..
@birdo
Its not logical to trade a probowler for a 7th round pick.. Even when the probowler does not fit your scheme any more…and the scheme argument is total BS anyway… because like I already mentioned.. DRC is not physical and he tackles worse than Asante.. He is younger and cheaper… he is not better… that is why the Eagles kept him… and also, a defensive coordinator who has a defensive front that is capable of damn near 50 sacks on its own should be able to do almost anything he pleases on the back end with Asante and Namdi… (DRC is fast and looks talented… but he also looks disinterested and lazy… giving half a$$ effort most of the time he is out there…the guy worries me)… You can play man with Asante and let him clue once in awhile also (at a good defensive coordinator can make it work)
and a couple things on DeMeco Ryans…. I remember the reaction of his teammates when they traded him for a 4th… What would they say if it was for a 7th? lmao…
its so absurd that its laughable….
@Frank yes he does play man…he plays off man coverage which is man, but not press.. He played some press last year.. He is a much more effective corner when cluing the QB, but he plays man also… And you will see more zone coverage next year.. this isnt going to be a strictly man press defense next year… they are blowing smoke up your a$$ and you love it… lol
and this is for that clown Paulman….
Asante was ranked #2 in QB rating behind Revis last year… Please spin that into a negative for me…
If they had to trade him, the least they could have done is get something back… they say they are ‘all in’ but this smells like the old Eagles..
but like you people say… its done… So im going to look forward to the draft and hope the Eagles do the right thing
either way we get a resolution to this Andy Reid problem at the end of the year…
Navy – 30 GM’s, knew Asante price tag would be around 10mil this season, unless he renegotiated…now lets just say his price tag was lower, lets say around what DRC is making 2mil (a lil less, I believe) now do you think more GM’s would have been interested? in fact we don’t even know how many teams reached out showing interest in Asante…we all know this, and there is no denying it, money rules the world!
If Asante was making 2 mil for next year, I still think they trade him, they also get alot more value for him. This is the coverage DRC played in AZ that got him to the Pro bowl. It is also the coverage he played in AZ that got him traded for peanuts. So the questions you have about him are valid. He does have speed and talent that are endless. It is the eagles job to make sure he plays to that level.
I’m still happy with what we have and I do think we will be successful..mainly in part to the Ryans deal, his leadership will be a big addition to the defense.
Realtalk — you want more facts?
Fact — Asante refused to consistently play man to man and took gambles, costing the Eagles big plays.
Fact — Asante made big plays.
Fact — Asante is getting older and is missing more and more games.
Fact — Asante was very pricey.
Fact — Asante was a me-first player and cared more about getting his stats then the defense functioning as a unit.
Fact — Asante doesn’t fit the scheme the Eagles are trying to run.
Of all those FACTS, one of them were in his favor.
yea Frank, you may be right…had he made less money, GM’s would have been ready to pull the trigger on a deal a while ago…with me, I just dont think it comes down to Asante’s skill…its money, age maybe even personality that could be factors…so you are right, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the Eagles would still trade Asante if he were making DRC type money…
Rasheed – looks to me like they are executing the plan they wanted to. Trade Asante who does not fit what they are doing.
Rasheed – nobody in the league strictly plays zone.
RT – that was the point Schill was trying to make earlier that Asante had a lot of say in where he went based on his ‘desire’ to renegotiate. I conceded money probably played a huge part in it them wanting him to move on -
I also think if he were scheduled to make less they STILL would have traded him, they probably could have gotten him gone sooner and gotten more for him…
as for DCR – like everything else – time will tell – I mean he could get chased by a dog, try to hope his fence and cut the nerve in his leg, or get depressed or bust his achilles in training.. all that shit has happened -
I know it is a popular ‘funny’ but right now everyone INCLUDING the GMs and HCs are playing fantasy football – trying to build the best roster possible – How many team have two pro bowl CBs on their roster?? One of which before last year – was considered the best in the biz…
now they just have to go out and play like it –
lets use that money to extend McCoy and Maclin, sign the picks, get Bell and Addai in FA (hell, maybe even Burress) and move on
sorry – I thought of something funny – we can sign Burress to with the money we saved from Asante – and line Burress up so Asante has to cover him …
and use the pick for Asante to draft Burflict!
It’s a dead issue now…they woulda gotten nothing forhim had he not been dealt prior to draft.
I think they shoulda played hardball with teams and just bit the bullet and released him. least you would had a chance to get a 3rd-4th. 7th rounder does nothing for this team. I think the bonus here is we cut money for Shady and Macs new deals.
In the end we’re gonna be a better d with Ryans and having DRC and Nam on the outside. Look for Bowles to demand DRC to be complete. He has great ability and needs a kick in the arse.
@Birdo – we’re good…I totally know where you guys are coming from…but skill set isn’t why the Eagles released Asante…its that simple
Fact — Asante refused to consistently play man to man and took gambles, costing the Eagles big plays.
LOL. come one man…are you serious? how about the gambles he took that resulted in big plays in the Eagles favor? what is it like 30 INT”S his career with the Eagles? thats right, here in Philly we dont remember the good, only the bad…
@ Frank…
Right… they meant to land a 7th rounder for him… Denver and Detroit and whoever else werent going low enough *sacasm*
all part of the plan..
Real talk – agree completely. It is hard to imagine trading asante samuel for a 7th rounder. But the factors you stated played a large roll in the trade. I think the eagles could have got more for a trade with another team, but asante was in essense a free agent. He could dictate where he wanted to go by agreeing or not agreeing to a new deal. He tied the eagles hand. Would he have done the same deal to go to Oakland? No, he would have said I want a 7 year deal.
@Navy – I hear you…I agree…and it does allow us to have the ability to work out a deal with probably the most important weapon we have, McCoy…
I’m not against what was done..at all…I just dont think it was done due to the way Asante plays..
Howie signed a player he didn’t need in asmo, drc is not a football player, looks like a crack addict, samuels was best player on defense and asmo sucks, wd
Asmo most overrated player on eagles, drc looks and plays like a crack addict and you put out for garbage your top playmaker, yup this makes sense
Good one Navy..
I think everyone needs to realize that you can only have 1 “man” or Voice in a Defensive Secndoary.. Once Asmo was signed, the Eagles Secondary has become his and the only way to do that completely is toremove Samuel from it.. There is no way that Samuel is going to defer to anyone, and Asmo never felt comfortable all season last year looking over his should at what Samuel may or may nor say as a sitting Veteran that had been on the EAgles the last 4 Season.. There was a lot more locker room issues going on here than just the Salary and Scheme arguement which I think many of you are missing or failing to take into consideration…
I have a very hard time understanding your logic and your sarcasm.
Real — we good.
But Asante only had 23 INT’s, not 30. 23 over four years. Thats a little over 5 picks a year, I can deal with that loss.
I would rather NOT hear a DB’s name because that means he’s refusing his WR to make a play on the ball. He’s denying him. It’s a big reason Nnamdi didn’t get big numbers in Oakland — because he simply took the WR he was defending OUT of the game.
4 hours 19 minutes!
Rasheed busting on everyones spelling today – jakedog with DCR looking like a crack addict – god we need something real to argue about….
@Birdo – true indeed…no denying that, but the one thing that really worries me..is Castillo going to be consistent or deviate? We all wanted to see more press coverage last year…less zone…why didnt we? I mean we were even deeper in 2011 at DB then we will be in 2012… I mean if Asante isn’t that solid in press, then why not give him safety help? While Nnamdi is on the teams best WR?
on another note – Pman – I think I look a lot like the guard from Stanford – Decastro – he stole my hiarcut – what do you think – course he doesn’t have my ‘mature’ greying around the temples -
DeCastro will be an All-Pro Player for 10 years in the NFL,
I don’t like him for the Eagles and see a Team like the Cardinals at #12 or the Bengals at #17 Grabbing him since they have needs along their OL..
Eagels should be set at OL for a while as long as Demetrus Bell and JAson Peters remain Healthy, but Mathis,Kelce,Watkins & Herremans are all under contract for the next 4 Seaons or so..
You guys do look a like a little bit, but he went to Stanford, so we know he’s a lot smarter than you… ha
Whew…they took Fletcher Cox. I feel a bit relieved they didn’t grab someone out of left field that would have otherwise not been drafted until the 2nd or 3rd round. Although I don’t know that they had to trade up the way they did. ANyine know what they gave up? (Probably the Samuel 7th…so retarded to recall that that trade actually happened)
Cox Cox Cox !!!!!!!!!! I love the pick!
I want to give props to paulman, he called the fletcher cox pick months ago. Good work old man
Bird- how many different guys did he say the birds would pick? All he did was throw a new name out each week. I dont give props for stuff like that. Everyone did that on here..