Asante Samuel Headed To Atlanta For A Seventh Round Pick
BREAKING NEWS, Eagles, News, Secondary Wednesday, April 25th, 2012
It’s a done deal. Asante Samuel is now an Atlanta Falcon. The Eagles traded him for a seventh round draft pick which very disappointing when you consider how productive Samuel has been here in Philadelphia.
He reworked his contract with the Falcons. Samuel signed a three year deal for $18.5 million dollars today with Atlanta, now the Eagles will be able to line up Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie at their left cornerback position and Nmandi Asomugha at the right cornerback position.
Joselio Hanson has been the Birds nickel back, who lines up on the slot receiver on passing downs in nickel or dime coverages.
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It was a move that needed to be made and I was one who supported it to be done last year, but I think the EAgles and Coach AR wanted some familiar player and playmaker in that Secondary.. This move now means the Secondary should belong to Asmo, it’s his tmie to step up and be a leader of the group and play to the best of his ability.. This is why the Eagles are paying him the big bucks.. I will give him the benefit of the doubt comign to a new team, new Coaches & Schemes and Teammates, but I don’t want to hear any excuses next season from anyone about the level of play for Asmogoah.. He’s one of the highest paid CB’s in the NFL and I am not accepting that he changed Conference from the AFC to the NFC, that he a new Coach, plays at teh Lince, used to play West Coast and now is on East Coast… or any other lame excuses, It’s his team and his time to shine and he needs to take full advantage of it immediately.. Anything less and the Eagles made a very critical mistake in even Signing him..
paul, it wasn’t done last year because Asante wouldn’t renegotiate. That’s the report. Not anything else your mind makes up. Samuel wouldn’t do it before, now he will. He had leverage because no team would trade for him without a restructure – then he eased on his demands. Don’t go brainstorming when there’s an answer out there….
Say what you want about Samuel, to me, this is more about the Eagles creating holes instead of filling them. At a time we celebrate Brain Dawkins, let’s remember the Eagles created a hole when they prematurely let him go that they’ve never filled. I hope DRC is the man considering the fact that the Eagles have given a proven all pro playmaker away for essentially nothing to make room for him. Let’s see whether DRC’s virtues outweigh Samuels faults.
yo haters, what round was Tom Brady picked in? And how’s the 3rd best LB on the Eagles right now? Who, of the MLBs last year, played the best? A 7th rounder?
I’m not saying they’ll do so well with this particular 7th round pick, but…
Fact is, Asante BLOCKED trades last year so all the “the Eagles should have traded him last year” stuff – is BULLSHIT – THEY COULD NOT POSSIBLY DO IT. THEY TRIED AND WERE UNABLE TO, DUE TO FACTORS THAT THEY COULD NOT CONTROL.
Same goes for “WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HIM WITH THAT PAY CUT HE TOOK” – he wouldn’t have done it and it still wouldn’t been bad for our football team – no press, gambling, putting the safeties in bad positions, blowing big plays, not tackling, messing up the scheme. Being MEsante…….
Stevo – so in the entire Eagles career of the guy, you never ONCE spelled his name close to right? Booooooooo
rasta – please tell me how the Eagles “prematurely let (Dakwins) go”? They had initiated negotiations with him – with a low ball offer – you know like how every negotiation goes – that’s how it works. They were given the word of Dawk and his agent that they’d come back to the Eagles and give them a chance to match other offers. Then Dawk just walked ON HIS ON ACCORD – NOT BECAUSE THE EAGLES “LET HIM GO”….and that was that.
Dawkins did the walking, the Eagles were in the process of trying to retain him, but he got offended and left.
Good bye, good riddance. But damn, did the Birds FO really @$$ f^#@ this entire situation up. They had him traded for a 2nd & 3rd last year to Detroit, but for some untold reason, it fell through. Some say Asante put a kibosh on it with his salary/ contract demands, & some say the Birds got greedy & wanted 2 2nds, or a 1st. I tend to believe the latter. Somebody in that FO f^#@ed up. NO DOUBT! 7th round pick, SHEESH! But it had to be done, for all of the reasons that BoB & Lionsden have stated. Add to that, that he WAS NOT a team player, would not adjust to the teams DF, nor the coaches requests, was a ME first player, locker room cancer, was allergic to tackling, & to be honest, IMHO is on the decline. Now we don’t have to look at his dumb@$$ in his pictures, with his arms crossed like an 80′s break-dancer. I just wish they could have added him to a trade to move up somewhere. But hey, water under the bridge. THEY BETTER NOT F^#@ THIS DRAFT UP, or they’ll have people storming the Nova Care with pitch forks & torches. LMFBO!!!
Hey at least they got something for him. I thought they were going to have to outright release him, like other teams have done, with their overpaid veterans.
On another note Vontaze Burfict, showed up at the combine, weak, fat, out of shape, failed his drug test, got one of the lowest Wonderlic test scores, failed miserably with all of his verbal sessions with teams, made excuses, did terribly on all of his combine tests, & on top of that, had a bad final year at College. YEAH, SIGN ME UP! Draft him at #15! He’ll be undrafted & won’t even be on any teams unsigned lists. Talk about wasted talent, this f^#@ing dumb@$$, will never get it. The biggest time in your life, & you fail a drug test, on top of all of the issues with him. What a stupid bastard. People would kill to be in the position that he was in. What a waste!!!
Alot of the mocks are now saying we will draft cb stephon gilmore.. rated as the 8th best player in the draft by mayock …
Stanley Havilli is up to 250 lbs.. supposedly rock sold…
Wow isnt it typical Philly. All of the sudden our perinneal pro bowler, our only playmaker is selfish, cant tackle, and is a locker room cancer.lol. Hilarious. He has 35 more ints then all of the Eagles DBs combined. He cant tackle? Ummmm anyone see DRC and Nnamdi tackle lately? Deion hasnt tackled anyone yet and ummm is in the HOF. I have no problem with moving him I just have a problem with all of the sudden he was never any good. Out of all the other garbage on the Eagles Trent(I only show up 8 games a year) Cole and Jeremy( Hopefully 1 day I can get 1000 yards) Maclin get free passess. unbelievable. Yeah lets resign that stiff Maclin and his annual 60 catches for 800 yards. shiver shiver I bet they game plan against him.lmao
Any other GM would have gotten much more for a Pro Bowl Corner…It wouldn’t surprise me if Asante is in the Pro Bowl again….The Eagles really need a General Manager bad because these guys including Andy are destroying things as we spin in mediocrity.
It weoudn’t surprise me to see SAmuel have his best year this Season since 2009… But it also wouldn’t surprise me to see him with sore aching,swollen knees by late season and miss a few games either… The time to move him was last year where the Eagles could have gotten a 2nd or 3rd Rounder but who cares we all knew he was moving on.. this is Asmo’s Secondary now and lets see what the overhyped Free-Agent Signing from last year can earn his keep…
On Burfict, not 1 of the any of the 32 NFL Teams invited him in to get a personal workout, not 1.. I have stated for about 3 months now that Burfict was sinking faster than than the Phillies, but to see him go out from a high 2nd Round to possibly not even Drafted has to be the biggest drop in the History of the NFL Draft.. and I bet Songs still wants him on his team too.. better go to Canada Songs, if you to watch him play…
Schiller, I already stated that Samuel wouldn’t re-negoitiate last yeard which is why the Detroit Lions Deal fell thru and do remember, that in 2011, Sammuel wasn’t making as big as a Salary as he is due 2012 & 2012, so a team could have paid him less in 2011 and then discuss future contract options with him..
Yes it had to be done , Now they can sign McCoy to a long term deal where they didn’t have the cap space before.
Paulman, oh please. First, that’s stupid. A team would not trade for a guy that was reasonably cheap for 1 year, and then exorbitantly expensive the next thinking “then we’ll discuss future contracts with him”. Said team would have 0% leverage in said contract talks, and he’d have 0 incentive to re work the deal. They would be stuck cutting him or paying him the money. Period end of story.
Remember, think first, click “post comment” second….
It really is simple, Samuel needed to go. They couldnt get more for him becasue every single team in the NFL knew, he had to go.
Songs – starting to think that you do not even believe what you type. You just like to make outlandish remarks to get people going. Having said that, 99.9% of the things you say are false. But, I do enjoy it.
In years past the Birds FO would never have made this trade. They would have demanded “better value” and would have wanted to “look” like they got the better of the deal.
This year they have been much more forthcoming in admitting, albeit obvious to most fans, mistakes and from the looks of this off season, correcting those mistakes.
Assante did some really great things during his years with the team, but it wasn’t hard to see that the 3 CB’s we had assembled did not work last year. Tommy Lawler has a great posting this morning on his Iggle’s Blog, and it talked of the press style of coverage that the birds are now employing with the wide 9 front, and how in the end, Assante wouldn’t play that style. It was a move that needed to be made, they should have made it last year, but doing it before the draft allows them to put the best team on the field in 2012.
Let’s move on to the draft….thanks for your play Assante, but we are moving on…..GO BIRDS!!
Last year was last year Schiller, teams and cap situations were all over the board last year where teams were now under new Financial Conditions where some teams had a ton of $$ under the Cap that could have not have afforded Samuel’s Contract but also needed a quality CB like the Panthers,Vikings,Bengals,Lions,etc,etc.. This year it’s a different marker for many teams got their finiancial houses all throughtout the year in order so they wound meet the threshold established by the new NFL CBA and to better manage their roster..
Bottom line with Samuel is what I stated last Year, no team was going to pay him a $20 Million Salary for the 2012 & 2013 Seasons an d I was right… He’s not the same player he was 2 yers ago and his knees are causing him more and more issues as he gets older.. This was a no brainer, Eagles only traded him to Falcons for believe it or not, they take care of their own when trading and land those players in pretty good spots in comarisions to what many teams do and act, which is “Hey, don’t let the door hit you on the way out”..
This move was expected and the return value I though would be a 5th Rounder,but that’s the way it goes, maybe if they waiting to the actual Draft they may have found a team willing to give more in return,but the EAgles are done with it now so Samuel and the Team can move forward which is fine by me..
This is a move that had to be made. 2 out of their 3 corners are man/press corners and Assante was the other one. This move makes sense for the strength of their Cbs and of course for the money saved. In essence, they released him.
But now that money can go straight to McCoy and a back-up RB. Maybe Bell at Safety?
Eagles fan: “I want to trade kolb for drc and a 2nd”
Eagles fan: “I cant believe they traded samuel for nothing”
Eagles fan: “I want them to pay McCoy”
you guys wanted drc, you got him… you guys want mccoy paid ? play the guy you traded for, and trade the guy making 10 mill a year.
the end
All this talk he didn’t fit the scheme, is nonsense…you have a pro bowl corner, who QB’s are scared to throw at, because of his unpredictability and the INT’s throughout his career to show for it. We were all expecting more press coverage last season, what happened with that plan? …Who here has spoken directly to Castillo, and he has said, the Eagles will utilize DRC and Nnamid on the WR at the line much more often…Maybe Castillo has learned and maybe we’ll see the defense we expected last season.. But lets not make more of this than it is, this move wasn’t about the scheme, it was about the $…
Trading Asante to a pretty competitive organization, is a just move by the FO for a player that they have appreciated for the last 4 seasons.
RealTalk — learn football. The player being outstanding on his own is NOT always good for the overall TEAM function.
@ Realtalk.. Agreed…
this talk about Asante not ‘fitting their scheme’ is BS.. Out the other side of their mouths they claim they are gonna draft the best player on the board…
HOW? what if he doesnt fit your scheme?
this was a salary dump… it doesnt make the team better …..
Im not sold on DRC… They wanna play press, but DRC isnt physical and he doesnt tackle either..
You don’t have to have insider access to know that DRC and Nnamdi play better in press coverage and that Assante plays better off the WR. You want them to play differently on opposite sides of the field?
But as a business/cap point, you can’t have 2 CBs making that much money. They seem to be committed to Nnamdi, so Assante had to go. Especially if you have a capable back-up who makes a lot less money. And they had 3 CBs who can’t play in the slot, so how can you utilize all 3?
could have re worked Asante’s deal and put DRC up for a trade.. They kept him because he is younger and cheaper….
not because he is better.. <<<<<there is my problem with this
the Eagles dont even have a defense scheme… lol
Juan has said he will be running those horrible zones again this year also
if you are gonna trade our best corner, at least get something in return… a 7th round pick shows that you forced the move. there had to be better options than what they wound up with.
If they come out and say they couldnt pay Shady without doing this deal? then I understand… But I havent heard them say that yet..
RT – come on man – you are usually pretty solid in your assessments – Asante got bubble screened to death last year becuase he likes to play off and Reid – and just becuase I have not personally chatted with Castillo – does not mean I can not watch two players and see they have different styles.
I will agree with you the large salary probably had a BIG factor in the decision, but it was pretty clear that either Samuel was going to have to learn to play more man press or Asmo and DRC were going to have to get better at plaing zone – and I was the guy last year saying it was bullshit that people were pissed Castillo didn’t just leave Asmo in press while having the rest of the team play zone..
Rash – sorry bro but you are taking ‘the best on the board’ and twisting partner – you don;t think ‘best on the board’ will have a factor such as ‘best on the board for OUR team, best on the board for OUR scheme, you don;t think Washburn or Mudd have said best on the board for ‘OUR’ program?
Do you really think if they want press man corners they are going to sit in the draft prep room and rank a Zone CB as better then the man guys without looking at the style and type of team O and D they play?
Asante is gone guys – wish him well ever game but the game he plays against the eagles – it was great having him here – next!
here guys – I can’t say it better so I will steal this quote:
Samuel, who plays off his receiver, doesn’t fit a scheme in which the Eagles would prefer cornerbacks to stuff their coverage targets at the snap, make the quarterback pause, and give the defensive line time to sack him. That isn’t what Asante Samuel wants, and never has been. He wants the quarterback to get the pass away, and he has made a lot of money in this game because he gives receivers just enough space to make a completion seem more likely than it actually is.
if you don’t agree we will have to agree to disagree
I think the Eagles are blowing smoke up the a$$ of the fans right now(as they do from time to time)
they say traded Asante because he doesnt fit their scheme, when they dont have a scheme on defense… they dont even have an identity as a defense and that was the problem last year with Juan. The defense is
As far as drafting the ‘best player on the board’ I think its Roseman just talking. I think they see players they like and players that they dont.. Whether or not they draft what is considered to be the best player on the board tonight? they will insist that they did, and say it worked perfectly (regardless of what the truth is)…
I think its just talk…
the only thing that matters is what the team does this coming season. If Andy doesnt get it done? him and all these other guys need to get out of town
Rash – you seem bitter today brother – go check out a great article on Asante by Marcus Hayes on Philly.com – puts a little ‘perspective’
and remember 30 other GMs had wind that Asante was on the trading block – 30 GMs new the eagles were working a deal for a (very) low round draft pick – 30 GMs (remember all the other GMs are NOT pencil pushing non-football types) knew that Asnate could be had for a 6th rounder! They passed – they realized the eagles were not just going to cut him and then get in a bidding war with other teams………….
as for the Defensive scheme – give it up man – they moved over to a Wide-9 in a strike year.. what is the purpose of the constant negativity -
beginning of the year – time for hope and optimism – woke up this morning
Brockers with first pick
Curry from MArshall with Second
LB from Nebraska in 2nd (and everyone is going to bitch he is too small!)
I still want Kuelchy at 15.. but this is what I think the birds will do
Marcus Hayes? lol .. wouldnt waste my time reading anything from that nutball.. you talk about bitter? there is a guy who oozes it..
yeah 30 GMs saw right through the Birds and knew they had the leverage on this one
I like Washburn.. He actually earned his money last year.. The defensive front is awesome…. The back end (Juan’s adventures with Casey Matthews and putting Namdi in zone coverage) is where they look lost as a defense.
hopefully they’ll do a good job in the draft.. We need some more playmakers/ solid players on defense. I can live with cox or Barron or Keuchly… Anything sensible will do.
but this is it for Andy and these guys….
its time for Reid to sh*t or got off the pot..
Thus begins the end of the Andy Reid era and the beginning of the “Era of Mediocrity” led by Howie R and financed by Jeffrey L.
The biggest problem with this is that just based on this trade Reid is basically not interested in winning a championship and has basically given in, rolled over to the will of Roseman…pretty pathetic. All hail the coming of Jon Gruden…FINALLY!
mickey hayes is a joke and a coward. he would never have the cahunas to write that type of article while Asante was here.
in 2007 & 2008 the birds traded out of the 1st round but the 2nd round was held the same day ————- when teams trade out of the 1st round now it will really piss off the NFL teams fans because the 2nd round is held the next day
I just read Marcus Hayes article because reed_richards mentioned it above on Philly.com – he really doesn’t like Asante does he. I don’t agree with Marcus but at least he is entertaining – I get frustrated reading Rich Hoffman because he writes the same thing on every topic in different words “ we’ll just have to wait and see” —- so at least Marcus has an opinion – a mean disrespecting personal attacking opinion but entertaining
E0S you mean the part where he sez for everi pick six asante gives up 10 tds… no did’nt like him at all
i dont understand what you guys are complaining about. Asam didnt fit what we are trying to do, he also costs FAR more than he’s worth to us. They are going to use that money to get shady locked up. Howe does this not click with people?
Shill- You are right- i wrote asam every time and now it doesnt matter. haha
Breaking news….
Asante Samuel traded back to the Eagles for 2 first rounds picks! Details are not out yet, but I am hearing that he gets 6 yrs 50 mil. 30 guaranteed.
and Rasheed1 rejoices….we finally have our playmaker!
Steve0 – its almost pointless to try and keep explaing the logical thinking to this trade. but you are exactly correct
there is no logic in trading a probowl player to a team in our conference for a 7th round pick Frank… that is why you cannot ‘explaing’ the logical thinking to this trade..
that hasnt stopped you from trying yet though…
knock yourself out pal.. ‘explaing’ away.. lol
Rasheed- you are right that trading him to ATL is not the first place I would have wanted him to go, but who knows if they had any other offers. I am sure if they did they would have traded him out of conference.
But system questions aside, do you think that it is a good idea to have 2 CBs that make over $10 mil? My second question is do you prefer Assante over Nnamdi? They were not going to keep both of those guys and whether or not you are high on DRC dosen’t mean that they aren’t. Now if they take that money and give it to McCoy and sign Bell at S, so that they can draft another position in the 1st round, does that make sense to you or would you rather keep Assante and not have the money to do those things? Sorry about the run-on sentence.
It’s logical when SAID player doesn’t fit what you are trying to do on defense anymore! Why is it so hard for you idiots to understand this?
Need another example of another pro bowl player being traded for a low draft pick and getting very little in return?
See Demeco Ryans.
Rasheed, yes buddy it is logical to trade him. Hes getting old, numbers are dipping, bad knees, 10 mil per year, dosent play man coverage. Do you need more? Would I have liked to have got more for him? sure. Everyone in the league had a chance to trade for him, did they? nope. Shouldnt that tell you something?
When you read the posts of Steve0 and Navy in this article nothing clicks with you?
I know your going to say “he was our best corner last year”, I dont doubt he was. Things were so screwed up last year that in the secondary and nobody was on the same page. That lies the problem, you have mesante doing his own thing and everone else trying to do another.
When you really think about it..The Eagles Def Secondary as a group has ranked #30 in th NFL the last 3 Seasons since 2009.. The only Common Denominator in the Seoncdary over this time frame has been Asante Samuel..
I don’t believe the Eagles Defense is going to miss him as much as many of you think,,,
Exactly P-Man.
@Paulman….you are right about the common denominator but that denominator being production…there is no denying Asante was the most productive player DB on the Eagles defense since 2009…I think you are undervaluing Asante! Again this was a $ move, and nothing more!
funny part is everyone keeps calling Asante a pro bowler -
well hell Asmo and DCR were pro bowlers as well!
truth P-Man
@Birdo – learn football? don’t start acting like a clown, because I disagree with you on one thing…considering we agree on many other levels…I’m not saying my opinion is fact, but could it be possibly that your opinion is not fact? I think so…you can’t discount the fact, opposing QB’s think twice about throwing at him, you can’t discount the fact, that he ranks in the tops, in regards to be thrown at…you can’t discount the fact, he is one of few defensive players that exhibits high emotion on the field and the sidelines…
Fact, Asante was the best CB on the Eagles in 2011…