Could S Mark Barron or CB Stephon Gilmore Be Eagles 1st Round Pick?
BREAKING NEWS, Eagles Draft, News, NFLDraft Wednesday, April 25th, 2012
The Eagles insist that they are going to draft the best player on their board. You’ve read and heard from Eagles GM Howie Roseman that they’re going to ignore their needs and get the best guy available.
Remember that this is a copy cat league and right now the Birds are copying the Giants. Think back to Giants GM Jerry Reese and how they drafted defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul despite having two Pro Bowl defensive ends, Osi Umenyiora and Justin Tuck, already on their roster.
The Birds have two Pro Bowl defensive ends, Jason Babin and Trent Cole, but with the new motto in mind, it doesn’t rule out them selecting North Carolina defensive end Quintin Coples or Illinois defensive end Whitney Mercilus. Remember that this is the “Get The Best Player On The Board Draft”.
In another interesting situation, the last two drafts have seen the Eagles select safeties in the second round each year, Nate Allen in 2010 and Jaiquawn Jarrett in 2011. Neither has stepped up and proven themselves to be legitimate stars. Allen has showed some promise but a knee injury has slowed him, so that the jury is still out.
Jarrett hasn’t even proven that he can play in this league as of yet, so the Birds can’t have any confidence in him.
So with this scenario at safety, what do the Birds do if the best safety in the draft, Alabama’s Mark Barron is still on the board when they make their first pick on Thursday night.
Barron is by far the best safety in the draft. He’s got it all, great size, tremendous speed and a sure tackler. The guy is a big time playmaker, who would be the replacement for recently-retired Eagles great Brian Dawkins. Barron was a defensive leader of this year’s National Championship team Crimson Tide squad and he could help the Birds have a big year.
The Eagles could also wind up picking a cornerback in the first round, despite being expected to start the season with Nmandi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromarite as the starter after they trade Pro Bowler Asante Samuel.
Taking the best player on the board means the Birds could draft South Carolina cornerback Stephon Gilmore with their first pick. Some think he’s the best cornerback in the draft and he could play the nickel back position in the slot with Asomugha and Rodgers-Cromartie outside. The fact that he could do a great job covering the slot, gives Gilmore being the Birds first pick a decent chance of becoming a fact.
One guy you could rule out becoming an Eagle is Mississippi defensive end Fletcher Cox. There was talk earlier in the offseason about the Eagles grabbing Cox with their first pick, but he’s flying up draft boards at this moment and may wind being the first defensive player to be selected.
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Songs there isn’t another fireman, but there is another Canadian OL who plays for Baylor.
Philip Blake from Toronto. Reid is “all-in”
I really have no clue what they are going to due nore do i even have a clue. Roseman did say the best player on the board. I mean that could be a linebacker, or it could be an o lineman. I guess ill see tomorrow. All i know is those punks better not trade out of the first round
PT reporting Burflict failed the drug test at the combine.
Navy- I dont look at bleeding green or whatever it is for information. But i said in previous draft i could tell where they were going but this one i have no idea. I do hope its Coples though.
I hope all goes well with ref’ing tomorrow night bro..
5 Best Players Avaialable in GM Roseman’s Mind to Draft
#1) DT Fletcher Cox
#2) LB Luke Kuechley
#3) CB Steve Gilmore
#4) DT Mike Brockers
#5) DE Chandler Jones
pman – I would be very happy with 1,2 or 4 #3 – just not feeling the CB – let Bowles work a year –
Chandler – found this on him – but another guy with a mock:
15. Philadelphia: I look at the Eagles defense, and see the need for an inside pass rusher in their sub-package personnel groups. Remember, in the final 4 games of 2011, the coaching staff expanded the alignment and personnel concepts, often utilizing Jason Babin and Trent Cole in 2 point stances as moveable linebackers. With that said, the pick is Chandler Jones from Syracuse. Jones has an intriguing combination of size, length and athletic movement. I think of Eagles defensive line coach Jim Washburn, and I could easily envision Washburn looking at Jones, and seeing a better version of Jason Jones, whom Washburn coached in Tennessee for 3 years.
heres my final thoughts i guess on the draft.
if they are going DL- Let washburn make the pick.
if they are going SS- let bowles make the pick.
if they are going LB- Let Mudd make the pick- y not?
JH, I agree I really am confused about this draft all the talk is done fellas it’s time to draft in about 24hrs. I feel like a kid at christmas(I’m a fuckin geek). But I think we all know if we get this draft right our season can be very good this year. For the first four rounds we need to draft contributors to the team at least. No more trevor lindley or curtis marsh types, actual players.
pdid – 1 day 4 hours 5 minutes -
so I looked around till I found a mock I like -
Draftcountdown had the bords getting Couples DE in 1st and Thompson DT from clemson and David LB from Nebraska in the second – DE/DT and LB –
That’s what I am going with!
I tink Barron right now is a better corner than Nate Allen. He has speed, can cover, and can tackle….Some might say Allen have experience, yet others will argue (Like me) his experience is up and down at best and he gets run over on the regular.
I’ll take a raw Barren before Allen any day.
Are the Eagles willing to admit error and get Barron to solidify the Safety position?
My money is on some player no one is mentioning that the Eagles will say is the steal of the draft.
NO WAY the Eagles take Barron this year after skipping out on Earl Thomas last year. That’s just so stupid that it’s not even worth thinking about.
Barron is nothing but the “tallest midget”. He’s not that great, just the only one worth talking about. Safety draft class is WEAK.
@JoeFriday — is that Burfict news about drug test true or are you just trying to poke Songs
Burfict high on Crystal Meth is better than every Linebacker we’ve had on the team in the last few years.
Navy if they got those players dude I would go thru my roof literally. On paper that would be an excellent draft.
Burfict failed his drug test….LMFAO….draft him!!
Haha @ Songs
Navy what I meant by previous post ( highly invested ) was no 1st rd safety’s or big free agent signings. I don’t see them taking a safety in the 1st rd. 2nd rd ya if harrison smith is still there. Just as you stated though they have back to back 2nd rd picks in safety’s I can’t see them going with Barron… It’s not what they do
sully – cool – I don’t think they will take Barron – I saw the guy from Boise State play twice – I would want the FA Bell before anyone else -
I could be way off with the safety assessment, could have been because Dawkins was on the roster for so many years but Eagles seems to always aim for Linemen, QB’s, WR & CB
Ya I agree! Brining in Bell seems more like the direction they would go. And he will be cheaper after the draft.
PFT reported it, I didn’t make it up. This kid is sending out clear signs he has no interest in playing in the NFL.
You guys are so blinded if you gonna go defense you gonna draft the guys from Alabama the best defense in college football in a long time 2 national championships them guys on there defense been through it all so there gonna pick Barron of Kirkpatrick.
The guys i think the eagles will target are as follows:
1. Fletcher Cox (Hearing the birds are desperately trying to move up 4 him)
2. Luke Keuchly (May be the darkhorse pick guys are over looking)
3. Quinton Coples ( One of my personal favorites, id be ecstatic if they take him at 15 and he will be there.)
Alot of possibilities. This is gotta be the most unpredictable draft in regards to who the eagles will pick. I have no clue at all. Id hope its one of these 3 guys though.
I’m not gonna say this again any Alabama defense player they played in big games and in pressure situations plus they played in the best conference in College Football.
Burfict realizes that he won’t be the first-round pick he was once projected as, but he says he’s content because he believes his future is in God’s hands.
“I don’t care where I get drafted because God will place me somewhere great,” Burfict said. “Wherever I go, I will cherish it and play my hardest. I will be grateful for the opportunity and make the best of it. I can’t wait for that to happen.”
I’ll put money on it.
The Eagles will regret it if they don’t get this guy on the cheap.
By the way….I need everyone to look at Mayock’s evaluation on Cam Newton last year. Mayock is a damn fraud who uses his position to sway public opinion. I wouldn’t be surprised if Agents give this loser kick backs to give a positive analysis for their guy.
Now, they’re talking about Burfict & Marijuana when damn near every kid at the combine probably hit some bud throughout there college days. pathetic
Burfict will not get Drafted
Paulman…you’re missing the point….If he don’t get drafted he can still end up being the best linebacker in this draft…..Graham was drafted ..We’re still waiting to see if he’s worthy of his draft, and the same can be said of MCDougal..Hell, Casey Matthews was drafted and we all know he’s garbage.
So, this is not about whether or not a player will be drafted but will they be good football players in the Pros.
Burfict playing at his top potential is better than every linebacker in the draft and some team will give him a shot.
If he destroy that opportunity then he’s out but if he do the right things and get himself together…his potential will turn into a nasty defensive player to be feared in the league….Low Risk/High Reward
Who cares about Burfict, why do you continue to waste your time on this bum..
Get some help man..No Risk/No Reward for he’s off everyones radar and that’s just the way it is, I been telling you for 3 months now that this guy was stupid,immature and just plain bad news… Time to move on Songs for the rest of the NFL,SCouts and Fans already have..
Coples is very overrated. I would take Chandler Jones over him. Coples did nothing last year. The Burfict topic is very interesting. He does have immense talent but he’s a head case. Why not take a chance with a late round pick?? If it doesn’t work, so be it. It would be no worse than Matt McCoy, Barry Gardner, Ikegwounou (spelling), Norman LeJuene, Quintin Demps or all the other late round picks who didn’t make the team. I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded a couple of slots back inthe first and take a DE. I think they will use one of their 2′s on Brandon Boykin from Georgia to return and play the slot. Good value there. Either way, this is a crucial draft and they have to get production from these early picks.
Songs,
You’re selling him short with “Burfict playing at his top potential is better than every linebacker in the draft and some team will give him a shot.”
Better than every LB in the draft. How dare you compare him to a bunch of lowly college players. I’ve seen the video. 50 cent tells me everyone is scared. Everyone!! I’ve heard Xzibit. He says Burfict puts people in the hurt locker. Just like LT did. And Eminem says he is a psycho – just like Jack Lambert.
Stop selling Burfict short. Greatest of all time. Book it.
And that interview you quoted Songs. Fantastic. From his hotel in Las Vegas. ….where he’s chillin’ before the draft. Exactly where an unemployed guy should be.
Gamble it up. Hit that bottle service. Keep lighting up. Draft? What draft? God will put him somewhere great. Because God has a plan for Burfict’s excellence. That’s how God works.
Run up those debts – the big payday is coming!!
That guy knows how to ROLL!
OMG. 13 yr career. 13 all-pros and 6 SBs So $$ Can’t wait.
This is what I’m hoping for from our first round pick in my own preferential order….
1: BArron
2: Kuelchly
3: Dre Kirkpatrick
4: F. Cox
5: Hightower
Now my prediction on what I think the EAgles will do…
1- will not pick at 15
2- the Eagles draft Dre Kirkpatrick
You heard it here first
No defensive lineman under 280 please! My preference is barron, kuechly, or cox. However, with wash on dline i wouldnt be surprised if they select dontari poe. It makes sense in a way, high risk high reward, and with mudd in my opinion having a say with the oline selections last year, and its successs, id believe they might listen to wash on this kid. I personally want barron, and a wlb with the next pick, i woud b intrigued to see the biggest dlineman of the reid era if poe was selected, and what effect it’d have on future moves.
If reid gets tannehill, it means his job was and is, never in jeopardy! If the kid is good or bad is irrelevant to the fact that ill b dissappointed if hes picked.
Paulman’s 2012 Mock Draft for the NFC East
Redskins
1st (#2) – QB RGIII – Baylor
3rd (#69) – OT Zeke Sanders – Fla State
4th (#102) – LB Demario Davis – Arkansas State
4th (#109) – WR Nick Toon – WIsconsin
5th (#141) – SS Antonio Allen – South Carolina
6th (#173) – C David Molk – Michigan
7th (#213) – CB Josh Norman – Coastal Carolina
Cowboys
1st (#14) – SS MArk Barron – ALabama
2nd (#145) – CB Janoris Jenkins – North Alabama
3rd (#81) – WR Brian Quick – Appalachian State
4th (#113) – DE Mark Jackson – Tennesee
5th (#152) – TE Rhett Ellison – USC
6th (#186) – OT Mel McCants – UAB
7th (#222) – LB Jerry Franklin – Arkansas
NY Giants
1st (#32) – OT Bob Massie – Miss State
2nd (#63) – DE/OLB Bruce Irvin – West Virgina
3rd (#94) – SS Brandon Taylor – LSU
4th (#127) – C Phillip Blake – Baylor
4th (#131) – OLB Sam Acho – Texas
6th (#201) – QB Austin Davis – Southern Missisippi
7th (#239) – WR Dale Moss – North Dakota State
That’s it for now
damn paulman, I bet you could give a near full scouting report on all those players as well, and none of it matters, tomorrow there will gnashing of teeth among eagles fans no matter who they select
Eagles Selectiions
1st (#15) CB Stephon Gilmore – South Carolina
2nd (#46) DE Vinny Curry – Marshall
2nd (#51) WR Mohammed Sanu – Rutgers
3rd (#88) DT Derek Wolfe – Cincinnati
4th (#114) LB Keenan Robinson – Texas
5th (#153) QB BJ Coleman – Chattanooga
6th (#172) SS Duke Ihenacho – San Jose State
6th (#194) FB Brad Smelley – Alabama
6th (#200) OT Andrew Datko – FLorida State (Tore ACL Senior Season)
7th (#229) TE Cory Harkey – UCLA
I really like your mock quite a bit, Paul. The only changes I’d make are Tom Compton, OT – South Dakota in the 5th, Jerron McMilian at SS in the 6th, then take the QB flyer on Austin Davis, So. Miss in the 6th and not worry about drafting a FB since Havili seems poised to slide in there and it’s not a position of huge utilization anymore.