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Eagles Will Lose Deep Passing Game If Michael Vick Gets Hurt

I give the Eagles credit for trying to fill every hole on their football team, in order that they’re ready to make a serious run for the playoffs and the big prize in February of 2013.

The Birds have been very busy this off season.  They extended the contracts of running back LeSean McCoy, wide receiver DeSean Jackson, right tackle Todd Herremans, left guard Evan Mathis, and right defensive end Trent Cole.

They finally addressed their needs at the linebacker position by trading for former Pro Bowl middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans and drafting Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year, linebacker Mychal Kendricks in the second-round.

They added the player many experts regard as the best defensive lineman in this draft, Mississippi State’s Fletcher Cox to their defensive line.  They added to that by getting another outstanding pass rusher in the second round, Marshall defensive end Vinny Curry.

After selecting a quarterback project in the third round in Arizona’s Nick Foles,  the Birds grabbed nickel back and return man in Georgia’s Brandon Boykin.  It may take him a year or two to unseat Joselio Hanson, but he’s faster and younger.

Despite all these positive moves, I still see one big hole on this roster and it involves the backup quarterback position.

I know all about the Eagles trying to emphasize to starting quarterback Michael Vick that he needs to stay healthy, but Andy Reid and his staff should have personnel in place to weather the storm if Vick goes down for a game or two.  I mean there’s still a pretty, good chance that Vick goes down for a game or two, or three. Let me make it plain, if Vick does miss a few games due to injury, the Eagles will lose their deep passing game, which is a big part of their offense.

Backup quarterback Mike Kafka is smart, competitive and athletic, but he doesn’t have an NFL arm.  This would be fine if the Eagles ran a pure West Coast offense, but the Birds run a hybrid West Coast offense which is built more on a deep passing game than anything else.  Unfortunately, we saw last year that Kafka can’t make all the throws necessary to step in for Vick and continue to rely on the deep passing game.

I talked to a couple of veteran NFL watchers, one a veteran NFL writer and the other a veteran NFL broadcaster, who were at practice yesterday and the number one thing they were talking about was the Eagles unimpressive backup quarterbacks, especially considering Vick’s injury history.  He’s never played a full-year without missing a game or two due to injury.

Other top quarterbacks in the NFC like Eli Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers have been able to stay away from injury for the most part in their careers, so they’re backups are irrelevant.  Quarterbacks who have an injury history like Vick’s tend to have better backup quarterbacks.

In Dallas, Tony Romo is backed up by NFL veteran Kyle Orton, who has started and won in this league.  Detroit has veteran Shaun Hill backing up Matthew Stafford and he’s won for the Lions with Stafford out.  Jay Cutler is backed up by Jason Campbell, who is a proven NFL quarterback, that has led teams to victory in this league.   Arizona’s John Skelton stepped in for Kevin Kolb a year ago and won a higher percentage of his games than Kolb, to the point that he’s now competing with him for the starting job.

With Kafka behind center, wide receiver DeSean Jackson might as well go grab a seat on the bench.  Kafka can run the short and intermediate part of the offense, but not the deep part of it.

If you were to put Jackson on a lie-detector device and ask him if Kafka could get him the ball on a deep nine route, he would honestly have to tell you, NO.

The former Northwestern University signal-caller can’t get that football to him on the deep routes.  This current Eagles wide receiver corps is built on speed.  One of the keys to the success of Jackson and Jeremy Maclin is their ability to get deep. That speed is nullified if Vick gets hurt and Kafka has to take over.

One would figure that the Eagles would correct this problem by signing a strong-armed veteran quarterback to compete for the backup job at  training camp.  Former Buffalo Bills quarterback Trent Edwards is the veteran quarterback who was signed and to my disappointment, his arm is no stronger than Kafka.   I knew there had to be some problem with Edwards since he spent the entire 2011 season off an NFL roster.

Foles has an NFL arm, but he’s a rookie and no where near ready to play in the NFL.  He’ll get the chance to play in the preseason, but he’s expected to be the third quarterback for this football team.  Who knows what he might be in a year or two, but I don’t think he’ll be ready to do much in the 2012 season.

GCOBB

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vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 23, 2012 8:43 pm

if?

pheags88
pheags88
May 23, 2012 8:51 pm

I come back from vacation happy to see that my team’s offseason is still going pretty solid. Keeping Banner and players in check and away from saying nonsense to reporters that will come to drive us all insane throughout the season like in the past…Most of all they signed my man Shady…which is great cuz IMO would have easily held out of camp.

ON the article…G I think a bigger concern is what happens if Shady gets hurt seriously? he makes this offense go when it does, not Vick…I think they could manage depending on who they played if Vick went down for 2-3 games….However if its season ending then you’re right on the ball. HOWever, lets be real the same can be said for every team in the league if they lose their starter for the season…

I really just don’t understand why they didn’t get an Addai type of veteran for RB insurance. Tolbert would have been fantastic as a compliment but obviously that didn’t happen. Im am really interested to seeing how those rookie RBs look in preseason (prolly most intriguing position to me outside of the safeties and Graham)…BUt for a team who is basically in a Superbowl/deep playoff run or bust type of season you would think it would be smart to have a solid backup behind Shady who plays a body beating position (sorry but Dion Lewis does nothing for me). My point is based upon the fact that they have plenty of money to spend and coulda used it for a Tolbert who can do everything Reid likes in a RB.

In regard to the backup Qb position, till this day I still don’t get the Edwards signing. He straight up sucks. He had his time to show what he has in the NFL and failed miserably…so why even bother signing him when everyone in the NFL knows he is not capable of winning a team a Superbowl?

Fact is like G says…the season is pretty much loss of Vick misses serious time…SO why in the hell would you throw Edwards in there instead to see what you could possible have with Kafka (minor unknown) OR Foles (complete unknown) for the future? If the season was lost due to a major injury I would rather us lose every game left if that means seeing what Foles/Kafka has so we know if we should draft a Barkley…rather than going like 1-10/2-9 with Edwards and still having those young guys as unknowns going into next season

jmt8251
jmt8251
May 23, 2012 9:07 pm

GCobb you are just fixated on Vick, what did he do to you? You are just a lunatic, my god you fools are praying and praying that they don’t succeed so you can keep your jobs. You should have saved your money when you were playing then you would not have live on a wing and a prayer of others failure, Or is it that you were such a failure you can’t stand to see anyone else succeed? Go Eagles great job. Just stay together and motivated and keep these losers like Cobb out of your face.

paulman
paulman
May 23, 2012 9:53 pm

pretty negative Article G..
Lets go down the list of the 16 teams in the NFC as they presently are set at the QB Position and who their Current back-ups are ..

Eagles – Mike Vick to Trent Edwards or Mike Kafka
Giants – Eli Manning to David Carr
Redksins – RG III to Rex Grossman or Kirk Cousins
Cowboys – Tony Romo to Kyle Orton (Which isn’t too bad)

Falcons – Matt Ryan to Chris Redmond
Saints – Drew Brees to Sean Canfield or Chase Daniels
Panthers – Cam Newton to Derek Anderson or Jimmy Claussen
TB Bucs – Josh Freeman to Don Orlovsky

GB Packers – Aaron Rodgers to Graham Harrell or BJ Coleman
Lions – Matthew Stafford to Shaun Hill or Kellen Moore
Bears – Jay Cutler to Jason Campbell or Josh McNown
Vikings – Christian Ponder to Sage Rosenfels or Joe Webb

49ers – Alex Smith to COlin Kaepernick or Josh Johnson
Seahawks – Matt Flynn to Russell Wilson or Tavaris Jackson
CArdinals – Kevin Kolb to John SKelton
SL Rams – Sam Bradford to Kellen Clemens or Tom Bandstater

You get the point, there are not many quality back-up QB;s around the NFL
The Eagles have 2 players that at least have some NFL Experience in Edwards and 3rd Year Kafka

Go to the AFC as Well as see how PLayoff Teams like the Pats,Ravens,Broncos, SD Chargers, Bengals would do if they lost their Starting QB’s…..

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 23, 2012 10:30 pm

I have stated before that it would be in the Eagles best interest to make a deal with thte Patriots for the rights to Ryan Mallett.

Brady has stated he plans on playing 5-6 more years, he would be buried on the bench. He could be had for a cheaper price now rather than later, and they blew it. Mallett is 3rd on the depth chart

Turk
Turk
May 23, 2012 11:06 pm

G Cobb if any team in the NFL lose there starting Qb there toast there just not gonna be to many Brady stories growing on trees!!!

Iggles
Iggles
May 23, 2012 11:38 pm

G, this is another of your reports that keeps me scratchin’ my head… seriously, C’mon man!

larrwd
larrwd
May 24, 2012 12:25 am

Depends who they play im fine with kafka against low to mid level teams.. but not teams like the giants patriots greenbay.. teams with tough defenses will abuse any back up we have

Monolith
Monolith
May 24, 2012 3:23 am

Thank you fellas for a positive stand up response. I don’t want here any voodoo talk about losing our QB, or any other player. Whatever is whatever.

Paul (gulp) I am with you on this one, every team is cooked if their 1QB goes down. However on respect to the Eagles we have always found away to manage a positive outcome when this has happened. We have history on our side in that we have lost our 1QB and done fairly well in there absence.

So get a grip GCobb, we talking Eagles, brother!

As always “LONG LIVE THE EAGLES!!”

DCar
DCar
May 24, 2012 4:43 am

jmt8251, do you even read the articles, you imbecile? Where did GCobb rip Vick? He spent the entire article talking about our poor backups & made comparisons to the other teams. “Let me make it plain, if Vick does miss a few games due to injury, the Birds are cooked.” Doesn’t that comment right there, say that with him, they AREN’T cooked!? MEANING THEY HAVE A CHANCE! DUH!!! Where’s the negativity on Vick, you imbecile? What is all of this man-love you have for Vick? Is he your squeeze, or family member, or something? Is he paying your bills? It’s nauseating. Instead of ripping people with your idiocy, ill-informed rants, & idol worship, why don’t you go get Hooked on phonics, & learn how to comprehend WTF, you are reading, first. BTW, it is a fact, at his age, body frame & decision making, that he WILL get hurt again. It’s inevitable & our backups, leave little to be desired. The jury is still out on Foles, he hasn’t even played in a game yet, so GCobb is a little premature about him.

rcp1936
rcp1936
May 24, 2012 7:20 am

G is correct
A very legitimate concern
Why are so many busting on him ?

As far as the other QBs in the league and lack of backups –what is the injury record of their starters ?

Vick has a track record of constant injuries especially since he came back

I doubt if he makes it past the 5th game without going down

He looked like a basket case at the end of the last 2 seasons

jakedog
jakedog
May 24, 2012 8:57 am

rant on dcar, exactly, this idol worship of any player, any man don;t get it

paulman
paulman
May 24, 2012 8:59 am

Because you could say that about every Team RCP1936
Why is G singling out Vick and the Eagles…
What happens to Broncos Passing Game If Manning can’t Play, or the Saints if Brees holds out, or Pats if Brady gets hurt, if Cam Newton gets hurt and on and on ..
Eagles back-up Trent Edwards has as many starts as the Top Back-ups in around the NL outside of perhaps Kyle Orton..

Frank22
Frank22
May 24, 2012 8:59 am

Boom! Dcar dropped a hammer

jakedog
jakedog
May 24, 2012 9:00 am

Jeff Garcia is available and was quoted as saying with Vick, Garcia and the rookie from Arizina, who need Edwards or Kafka

jakedog
jakedog
May 24, 2012 9:03 am

okay paulman, if gcobb’s article is a rip, its a rip on the eagles for not having an adequate back up to a qb whose history tells us will get hurt again, stop your damn pandering to these fools who come out of the woodwork anytime mike vick’s name is mentioned

DCar
DCar
May 24, 2012 9:06 am

rcp, because instead of excepting the truth about their idols, that they worship, they’d rather delude themselves into thinking it’s everybody else’s fault, why they aren’t that good & pass around false blame, labels on people. The truth is the truth & let’s face it, race plays a huge factor in a lot of peoples thinking on here. If Vick was white, the apologists, wouldn’t make a peep. I’m part black, so that plays ZERO bias, in my thinking of Vick. But if you notice, when he is criticised, the race card is always thrown out there. Also, another problem is, in the black community, is X-cons are rooted for & celebrated, kind of like a badge of honor. The working, educated, young black men, are labeled Uncle Toms & are frowned upon. God forbid, if you are black in law enforcement. You are considered a snitch & trader. That’s why alot of peoples ignorance root for guys like him, not because he is great.
I mentor/ sponsor, troubled youths, so I know of what I speak. It’s sad, but true. We hurt ourselves more with our ignorance, than other peoples bigotry & racism.

bighld31
bighld31
May 24, 2012 9:19 am

Yall might think I am creazy, but I would bring D. McNabb back or take a serious look at. Right now, he trimed down and he is working with Warren Moon on his foot work and accuracy. If he is the new and improve Donovan, why not?

lionsden
lionsden
May 24, 2012 9:26 am

While I have no intention of immersing my self in this argument today about Vick I would like to point something out to all the readers. Yesterday, the title of this “article” was Eagles are “cooked” if Michael Vick gets hurt, today the title of this “article” is Eagles will lose the deep passing game if Michael Vick gets hurt. I’m just sayin’.

, why are you consistently mentioning that you are multiracial when talking about Vick? If you’re only part black aren’t you also part something else? Couldn’t you being part something else lead to you having a more negative attitude towards Vick than some one who is full African American? Just an observation not a criticism.

DCar
DCar
May 24, 2012 9:26 am

big, he’s baked, & if Reid had real, legit interest in him, he wouldn’t have been endorsing him, to the rest of the league, in the beginning of the week.

Frank22
Frank22
May 24, 2012 9:33 am

DCar – this is the last time I will praise your comments, i promise.

paulman
paulman
May 24, 2012 9:40 am

The Eagles went out last year and got a big-name back-up in VInce YOung and what did that accomplish.. In hindsight and I even mentioned a few times the Eagles were a long-shot to make the Playoffs last Season after their terrible start and it would have been much wiser to play QB Kafka to see whether he can play or not.. So VY goes 1-3 in his relief role and is gone from the team and the Eagles still does not know if a Draft Pick/Home -Grown player can actually play in the NFL..

Frank22
Frank22
May 24, 2012 9:41 am

Racism is something that people deal with everyday (black, white, jewish,catholic, sunni, shite etc… I am a socialworker here in Phila. It’s obscene the amount of stupid people out there. That all racism is – stupidity. BTW so is playing the race card.

DCar
DCar
May 24, 2012 9:41 am

lions, thats a good/ valid point. But the ONLY reason I mention that, is for the reasons I’ve stated, so I nip the race card, in the butt, before it is thrown. Basically we are all faceless strangers on here & I just try to make that a point. BTW, FYI, I don’t have a racist bone in my body. Me being half black, Italian & Cherokee Indian. had to deal with racism from all sides, but was taught by a great Mother & 2 Grandfathers, to love, respect, forgive all, & have tolerance, no matter what/ who they are. So does answer your skeptical question, since you are one of the people on here, that likes to throw out the race card?

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
May 24, 2012 9:55 am

Hey Dcar… Saying you are multiracial “in order to nip the race card’ makes you sounds like a liar ….. People of color dont flaunt their race in order to draw cover for their racist comments…. Sounds like a bunch BS

here’s some advice from a true person of color…If you wanna nip the race card? STFU about race then…. that will help..

Nobody cares about your stories pal

DCar
DCar
May 24, 2012 10:11 am

Rasheed, & I don’t give a f^#@ about your opinion. I wasn’t flaunting anything. I’m proud of the man I am. If by speaking the truth & being honest, makes me a liar, then I’m a big, fat, liar. By your statements toward me, makes it sound like I hit a little close at home to you, & struck a nerve. Are you one of the ignorant racists, I was referring to, or are you one of those people that don’t think I have the right to speak of topics on people of color, because I AM mixed. Either way, your ignorance shines right through, my man.

paulman
paulman
May 24, 2012 10:21 am

Everyone here in American is multi-racial unless you are a 100% American Indian..

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
May 24, 2012 10:23 am

Dcar… you sound stupid (like always)…

First you say you dont care about my opinion… then you turn around and start asking questions.. lol

what kind of a idiot does that?

You’re not multi racial you lying sack of sh*t… nobody buys that lie..

you need to go see a doctor for your lies and schitzo personality… Or see a bridge (whichever comes first)

I couldnt care less about your comments because you are a first rate FRAUD…. you are see-thru

you are nothing but a bitter idiot… you murk around the board acting like you a long suffering fan…

Your act is tired… You come off as the most MEDIOCRE mofo around, Yet you storm around complaining about teams as if they owe you something.. They let YOU down? lol *shakes head*

Thats why I said you should just kill yourself already you miserable victim you…

Win-win

DCar
DCar
May 24, 2012 10:44 am

Rasheed, sorry you feel the way you do. I feel sorry for your know-nothing, scum-bag, ignorant, @$$. You are the only stupid, ignorant, person, in this conversation. Sorry if the truth struck a nerve. You don’t know $#!T about anything & by your last comments, shows everyone what a scumbag, lowlife, ignorant, human being you are. You mean absolutely nothing to me, so why would I need to lie to you, or anybody else on here, for that matter. No matter how many arguments I’ve had on here, I would never wish ill will, or tell someone to kill themselves. I was raised better than that. apparently your home schoolen, was lacking. Miserable victims, don’t help others, you nitwit. BTW, thanks for the free diagnosis again. I’ll make sure I get a second opinion.

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
May 24, 2012 10:51 am

lol… Nice meltdown idiot….

Dont get hurt feelings pal.. Its only a message board…. And you dont give a big fat @$((*&$*(@&$@*(&$ about my opinion, remember Dcar?

If you act like a miserable a$$ hole? Im gonna treat you like one…

Its only right….

like I said… you’re not multi racial talking like a bigot… you sound like a clown perpetrating that lie on here….

You have along diatribe about race (on a football board) with no truth or relevance to the topic in it whatsoever.. then you start whining about you are multiracial and victim…

save the lies idiot…

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
May 24, 2012 11:01 am

DCAR – Second Opinion – I couldnt resist…jumping on those that defend a man of their own race, while ignoring those that come on here with an agenda who most certainly are different race than the man you are speaking of? I mean come one, better off not even commenting on that DCAR or was it DVAN?

Well since you put it out there for all of us to know DCAR, I am curious…I’m no psychologist, probably should have been though….but would I be correct to assume that your half black on your father side DCAR? and being you said you were raised by your mother and grandfathers, would mean…..your “black” father wasn’t around? wonder how this could have an impact on your thinking…

lionsden
lionsden
May 24, 2012 11:11 am

@RealTalk777…Ouch!

DCar
DCar
May 24, 2012 11:12 am

Everything I’ve stated is fact & relevant, to the topic. If you are too ignorant, biased & close-minded, to understand what I was trying to say, their is no hope for you. It’s also irrelevant to me, what you think is the truth about me. I know who & what I am. I love how sure of yourself, that you make yourself, out to be. You flat out don’t know dog$#!T. I’m glad that you are an internet shrink, with your diagnoses & setting me straight. Thank you, I’ve been living 43 years full of delusions & lies. Thanks alot, for schoolen & clowning me. I’ve learned my lesson & finally learned the truth. Riiiiight!!!
You are the only idiot here. Look in the mirror.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 24, 2012 11:23 am

Just stating that if any team in the NFL loses its starting QB their season is screwed so everyone is in the same boat as the Eagles is lazy.

While the idea that most teams would be up the proverbial creek without their starting QB (wait, that’s strange – I thought it was a TEAM game, how could one position be so important as to ruin a season if one guy were to get hurt…..lets ask Colts fan). Anyway, while it is true, the Eagles are a special case. They, and their fans should be expecting that their QB miss games. He has in all but one season of his career.

Yes, all Qbs get hurt. Its just that some get hurt more than others. Vick is one of these players. This is only going to get worse as he ages….

Lets look at Paulman’s list:

Eagles – Mike Vick 2011 missed 3 and left 2 other games 2010 missed 3. So that’s 7 starts gone over past 2 years.
Giants – Eli Manning 2011 misssed 0 2010 missed 0
Redksins – RG III Unknown (did he miss any in college?)
Cowboys – Tony Romo 2011 missed 0 2010 missed 10
Falcons – Matt Ryan 2011 0, 2010 0
Saints – Drew Brees 2011 0, 2010 0
Panthers – Cam Newton 2011 0
TB Bucs – Josh Freeman 2011 0 2010 0
GB Packers – Aaron Rodgers 2011 0 2010 0
Lions – Matthew Stafford 2011 0 2010 15
Bears – Jay Cutler 2011 6 2010 1
Vikings – Christian Ponder Who cares
49ers – Alex Smith 2011 0 2010 0
Seahawks – Matt Flynn Unknown
CArdinals – Kevin Kolb to John SKelton Who cares
SL Rams – Sam Bradford 2011 6 2010 0

There are a lot of zeros on that list.

Again, from the list, there are 2 guys (Stafford and Romo) who suffered loong term/season ending injuries (and it happens)…but otherwise they’re not the “bumbs and bruises” kind of guys.

Vick not like this. Multiple injuries over his time with Birds. Ribs, Concussion, thumb etc etc. Misses games.

The other teams in trouble losing their starter go into the season with the expectation that their guy will play all year. We go into the season with the expectation that our guy will miss 30% of his starts.

That’s why backup position is more important on Eagles than other teams….that being said I was absolutely against the VY experiment – what a disaster. Bringing Mcnabb back would be an excellent idea….if it was 2005.

We better hope Foles develops quickly. Edwards Nein. Kafka? Who knows, but it doesn’t seem the coaching staff too high on him – they were reluctant to put him in instead of the aurtocious VY and brought in the sub-mediocre Edwards to challenge him.

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
May 24, 2012 11:29 am

Nothing you said was true… Thats the point…. I know many black folks who are lawyers, educators, business people… AND THEY ARENT UNCLE TOMS… they arent looked at as uncle toms… They werent teased in school for being smart…They popular because they were smart and outgoing… People I grew up around were teased for having “WHITE MANNERISMS” not for being smart or getting good grades… not saying there arent bullies in the hood…. but there are bullies everywhere..

matter of fact the stick up kids I knew growing up told me that I didnt want to do what they did… They told me I needed to stay in school and do what I was good at… They didnt discourage the young bucks from going to school, they discourage them from going to jail…

you dont know what you are talking about and your comments are worthless…

If you really knew anything about what you speak? you would understand that alot of black folks root for “REDEMPTION” you idiot… Black folks understand that it isnt soo much about how you fall….. but its about HOW YOU GET UP. thats what they are rooting for Dcar..

Smarten up for a change

DCar
DCar
May 24, 2012 11:55 am

Real, to be honest, your assumption is wrong. My Mom, God rest her soul, was black, my Dad, God rest his soul, was Italian & Cherokee. So your wrong. I have no axe to grind, nor do I dislike any part of me, or my family. Nice try, thanks for your input, though.
Rasheed, you make some good points. But I didn’t say all were like that, I was just saying it to compare to Vick being polarizing & people using the race card on here & why. We will agree, to disagree. But your right, there are bullies, racists, bigots & haters, on all sides. I unfortunately know 1st hand. I just wish you would try to see my side, before falsely call me a liar & sickeningly tell someone to kill themselves. Trust me, if you knew me personally, you would change you tune. I’m no bigot, I don’t lie, & I’m the furthest thing from a victim. LMFBO! Overly critical, angry fan, & skeptic, absolutely! But not the rest.

paulman
paulman
May 24, 2012 12:14 pm

“The only thing we knew for sure was that Henry Porter’s name wasn’t really Henry Porter” … Happy Birthday Bob Dylan…

lionsden
lionsden
May 24, 2012 12:20 pm

LOL!!! “WE” don’t go into the season with the expectation that our starting QB (Mike Vick) will miss games. Only Giants Fans go into the season hoping that our QB misses games. Especially because since our starter (Mike Vick) has been in command of the Eagles they have had the best record in the division.

If what “we” think truly reflected what the team thinks then not only would the Eagles starting QB not have been awarded the starting role in 2010 and subsequently received a $100 million dollar contract after said season. Who gives a $100 million dollar contract to a starter that they expect to miss games consistently? Even if only $40 million is guaranteed that’s not a very smart move if you truly don’t think your starter is durable. If what “we” think reflected what the team thinks then the Eagles would not have traded away Kevin Kolb, who was drafted to be the heir apparent, after only a handful of starts . Again why would you give up your “qb of the future” for a guy you believe is not durable? If what “we” think truly reflected what the team thinks we would have been in the Matt Flynn sweepstakes and wouldn’t have drafted Kirk Cousins’ backup or picked up a guy who’s been out of the league for a year.

Based on the recent decisions made by the Eagles, the only people who expect Vick to miss games are outside of the NovaCare complex.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
May 24, 2012 12:57 pm

LMAO…Real & Sheed went in on the dude……LOL..@ his last post ..the tone was much different ..just sayin

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
May 24, 2012 1:24 pm

Gents – I too am having a bit of a cultural identity today – I spent my entire life thinking I was of proud German heritage.. I knew the families of my paternal grandparents were from the Alsace-Lorainne region of what is now France – but in the 1870’s it was part of the German Empire.. the French took it after WWI –

well I recently learned that my Paternal grandfather was actually from Lorraine region of France.. making him French..

I knew he was an ambulance driver during WWI – but apparently he was a driver for the French Army.. I thought it was the US Army becuase he died in a VA hospital…

but I digress from my main point… I am going through this identity crisis about now realizing that my paternal great grandparents were French….

what does this have to do with football – not a god damn thing – the same as all the freaking race discussions – to me you are all a white screen with black letters…. can we leave the rest of the race stuff out? People of any color can be stupid…… so disagree with the guys stupid statement or constant bitching.. dump the race convo…

or not – I can go into politics next if you guys would like?

jakedog
jakedog
May 24, 2012 1:42 pm

navy, what’s to be prouf of a heritage that attempted to take over the world three times?

paulman
paulman
May 24, 2012 1:47 pm

Plus they still love Jerry Lewis … Good grief…

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
May 24, 2012 2:00 pm

and David Hasselhof! Each culture brings its own unique quirks –

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 24, 2012 2:28 pm

Thanks for speaking for me BTW….telling me I “wish” him to be hurt. Frankly, I’m mixed on whether I want him hurt or not. He’s gone after this year anyway. Him being hurt might give foles more opportunities over the final few games.

I do know this. Football is all about consistency. Repetition. Consistency. MV is the opposite of consistency. Inconsistent drops. Inconsistent release. Inconsistent actually following the plays called. Inconsistent with 21 fumbles over last 2 years. Very consistent 3% int rate (yay). And most importantly, inconsistent time on the field. Will he play? Will he not? Is he hurt? Is he not?

Football relishes consistency. MV is the opposite of consistency.
Enjoy one final season of seeing him on the injury list almost every week.

The front office must be completely confident in Vick.

In 10 years with McNabb they drafted 2 Qbs (Feely in the 5th and Kolb in the 2nd). The second Qb coming when it was clear that McNabb was finished.

In 3 years of Kolb/Vick in charge they’ve drafted 2 QBs (Kafka in 2010 and Foles in 2011). They’ve also brought in VY and Edwards as free agents…presumably because they have no idea how many games VIck is going to play.

Sure looks like a confident FO when they’ve brought in 4 new QBs over the past 2 years…..

This FO knows exactly what it has. When the Kolb thing fell apart (and they were hoping he’s be the QB for the next 10, they went to plan B. An exciting guy who could win them a few games as they went through a rebuilding proces…first on O, now D.

Stevo
Stevo
May 24, 2012 2:49 pm

I see no hate here- its a valid point G is making. Vick goes down- thats just how it is. We need him to be the weapon… the guy who can break off on a run… we need that possibility because THATS VICK. thats what we pay him to do. He has the arm to go deep and he has the legs to take off. He is not as good at reading a D(thats not hate, thats truth). IF we want vick to be vick, they should have done a better job ant bringing in a vet. i like foles and im rooting for him to land that #2 spot.

paulman
paulman
May 24, 2012 2:53 pm

Navy, Hasselhoff is popular in Germany, get your European History together..
Very dissapointed in you..

Stevo
Stevo
May 24, 2012 3:43 pm

amen Navy.

lionsden
lionsden
May 24, 2012 3:44 pm

LOL!!! I love Giants Fan aka (VtheEV)… can never respond to the point as it is presented always talking around the issue instead of to it? And always putting that limited football IQ on display.

Drafted Kolb in 2007… acquire Vick in 2009… release McNabb in 2010, release Kolb in 2011. A case could be made that Kolb was the heir apparent but since we now know that Andy Reid had his eye on Vick in 2008 a case could be made that Kolb was a stop gap. With regards to Kolb’s time with the Eagles, how do we know he “didn’t workout” as opposed to Reid (and the players I might add) having a preference for Vick? I mean he really only started played in 8 games for the Eagles before he was shipped off to Arizona. Reid’s version of the WC offense is predicated on the mobility of the QB and of the three back up QB’s Kafka fits that requirement the most. Foles and Edwards… not so much.

So, my question is, is it really news when a coach known as the QB wisperer drafts a QB especially when he knows the value of a QB in the NFL? Don’t think so. In his 13 yr tenure with the Eagles, Reid has committed to 3 QB’s as the unquestioned starters McNabb, Kolb, and Vick the others have come and gone with decent return value.

I have no worries about the Eagles next year. I have no worries about Vick next year. I have no worries about Reid next year. Both Reid and Vick will retire as Eagles. This coming season will be great for the Eagles in spite of what the Giants Fans say.

Football relishes ADAPTABILITY which wins championships. Consistency is great in some aspects, but consistency by another name is predictability. Predictability personified is Tom Brady vs. the New York Giants. Wait… maybe that’s why you like Brady so much… cause he can’t beat the giants!!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
May 24, 2012 3:44 pm

wait – you mean they don;t love Jerry Lewis! – The Hoff was very popular in Austria Germany and Switzerland – you ever seenthe video for his mombo dance!

Stevo
Stevo
May 24, 2012 3:46 pm

btw- vinnie. Rooting for an eagle to be hurt is unreal. The fact that you care more about being right than you do about winning is something i will never understand.