Eagles Offense Hot And Cold During Workouts
BREAKING NEWS, Eagles, General News, News Thursday, June 14th, 2012
The Eagles offense had a disappointing practice yesterday. In fact, for the last couple of days at this week’s workouts, the Birds’ offense has been sputtering. Some of it is understandable because the offense is always trailing the defense, but this still isn’t what they were expecting right now.
The wind was acting up yesterday, and it was affecting most of Michael Vick’s deep throws. DeSean Jackson beat cornerback Nmandi Asomugha by about ten yards, but Vick’s throw was over his head.
They’ve got to step it up, and they know it. Last week, Vick and the receivers had a couple of outstanding days, so there’s no question that they’re capable of putting up some big numbers, but it wasn’t happening yesterday.
On one play, Vick tried to throw a slant to Jeremy Maclin. Cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie read the route, and was all over Maclin when the ball arrived. He got his hand in there and batted the ball into the air. Birds defensive lineman Jason Babin picked the ball off.
On a couple other plays, Vick tried to throw the ball over a blitzing Asomugha and the cornerback promptly knocked the pass down on two plays. On one of the knockdowns Asomugha was coming from outside on another he was blitzing off the slot.
Vick did connect with Maclin on a long bomb. Number 18 went up and caught the ball over Rodgers-Cromartie.
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If Vick doesn’t do it this year will all the weapons he has surrounding him,then when will he ever do it.. I am tired hearing and reading about what an Great One of a Kind Athlete he is.. I want a good QB who makes timely,accurate passes and is a leader and good decision maker and protects the damn ball.. Is this so hard to ask… I am pulling for him for he gives the Eagles their best chance to win in 2012, but he plays average ball, up and down, and reckless, then I want him gone more than wanting Coach AR gone… It’s up to VIck to shine and prove he’s one of the Elite NFL QB’s as he is being compensated as with his $100 Million Contract.. If he’s average and leads this Team to 8-9-10 Wins and a 1st Round Playoff Exit, then time to cut the chord with Him with no looking back.. This is what, his 4 the Season as an Eagle, the Offense has basically stayed the same with most of same Position Coaches/Schemes and Formations.. Time to put up
I do want to congratulate Vick on his upcoming Wedding.. Isn’t that this or next weekend..
And if he doesnt Paulman what is your option? What if Romo, Rivers, Ryan, Shaub, and so on and so dont win? lol. Who you gonna replace Vick with? Who?You gonna bring some rookie in here with this win now team? Kafka? Who? My goodness championships and QBs dont fall off trees. Alot of QBs have talent around them and havent won SHIT. What is you solution and what are your options. Just get rid of Vick and hope is your solution? You better have a friggin good option.
Agreed on all counts..well said
Everyone should be kissing Vicks ass and thanking the higher powers above we arent stuck with that stiff Kevin Kolb or have a friggin Colt stinking McCoy here. Or a friggin Charlie Whithurst or a Rex Grossman. Ungrateful damn fans are unbelieivable. No he hasnt won a champonship. Yes he has gotten hurt. Yes he threw 14 ints last year but thats a whole lot better than what it really could be. Hell he gives us hope atleast. Thats all I ask for. my goodness. You fans wanted to sign f$%king Kevin Kolb to a 50 year deal. Are you kidding me.
Sorry Paul, that “Agreed on all counts” was meant for your Vick statement. A Little slow on the draw this morning.
DA. They are not going to pay Vick $18M 2013 if he doesn’t return somewhat to his 2010 form.
If Vick doesn’t win a playoff game I would imagine they would see how Kafka and Foles progress this year. They either (1) like what they see in their backups or (2) they draft a QB early next yr(deep class coming out in 2013). Either way they would bring in a veteran QB for competition/stopgap that they hope will be supplanted in training camp / mid season (in scenario 2)
Mryan Give me a name? What Veteran QB? Draft what rookie QB? This team is ready to win now. No time time to hope a ROOKIE can play in 3-4 years. A veteran QB? WHO? He must not of won anything himself if he is available. He surely isnt as good as Vick I will tell you that. A journeyman? lol. Yeah maybe we can sign Seneca Wallace thats the answer. ? Kevin Kolb? Yeah that will go over well with Maclin and Jackson. I dont know I dont know. You fans just throw shit out there with no answers. You think these QBs grow on trees. You have no answers.Get a stop Gap? Who are you drafting? What if that rookie SUCKS b/c you aint drafting 1st or 2nd. Then your telling all them players they must wait 3-4 years and hope he develops? Are you kidding me? You could be looking for a QB for the next 10 yers.
Mryan its 2-4
and in the 2 wins Vick completed a grand total of 25 passes….for 199 yrds. Again, that’s a 2 game total.
Good thing he was the beneficiary of 7 GB/Stl turnovers.
@Daggolden….I agree 100%! can’t expect logical thinking on this site…!
@Vinnie – I dont know about you, Eagles make it to the playoffs, I’m hoping for the opposition to turn the ball over on every single down, turnovers part of the game, do you look at it the same way, when Brees, Brady, Peyton, wins games because their defense helped them get the ball? Probably not, we all know your agenda!
Simply put referring to your comment, that is the Vick of old…That is the Vick that was asked to run more than pass…that was the Vick who was on a running ATL football team…
The STL game Vick only passed the ball 16 times, but guess, what completed 12 of those passes, which is 75%…119 yards rushing in that game…He did what he was asked to do…with Warrick Dunn rushing for 140+ yards that game…
Nobody has ever said Vick is Brady, Brees, Mannings, Rodgers or hell even a young Cam Newton. If they were available I would drive Vick to Phil Int myself. But guess what them guys aint available. For me to sit up here and want my team to sign a journeyman QB or stick a hit or miss project rookie QB and hope for the best is ridiculous. Who the hell wants to gamble on that? If a Mark Brunell is lurking @ 2nd string ok maybe. But theres nothing out there. I will take my chances with a top 100 player a QB for the next 3-4 years, F*&k the money they have to spend up to the cap anyway. Oh we saved 10 million but we have AJ Feely starting for us. Yeah thats great to know every Sunday. Build your defense, Run McCoy and Vick will do.
I don’t even know where to start w that comment DA.
1. What do you mean hope a rookie can play in 3-4 years? The league is changing as it has now become evident that rookie QB’s can make an impact in Yr 1.Cam and Dalton did pretty well starting from game 1 last year. RG3 Luck, Tannehill and Weeden are going to be expected to start at some point this year. None of the teams mentioned has/had the weapons (RB, WRs, TE, OL)that a rookie QB drafted next yr would have w the Eagles. And Rookie QBs who are available that I like.. Mat Barkley, Tyler Wilson, Logan Thomas, Tyler Bray, Geno Smith.
2. We still haven’t really seen what we have out of Kafka and Foles was taken as a project. If Vick goes down or fails to get us to the playoffs and they like what they see out either Foles or Kafka you can bet Howie is on the phone in February attempting to dump Vick for draft picks. $18M in 2013 is Brady and Manning $$, the Eagles would be ok with paying that for 2010 Vick, 2011 Vick not so much. The point of bringing in a veteran QB is to make the Rookie/KafKa/Foles win the job in camp or by early in the season and for the veteran to provide as a solid backup. Hasselbeck, Colt Mccoy and Cassell are all guys that will probably be on their way out in 13, if they are not traded earlier, who would still provide great Camp competition and would make solid backups.
3. I like Vick and hope he kills it this year making the whole point moot, but if he doesn’t he’s going to have to restructure his contract big time or he’s going to be gone.
Come on Vinnie..I didn’t count the 09 loss to the Cowboys because he didn’t start and only had 2 attempts in the game (1 of which was a 76 yd TD). That game was McNabb’s loss. I’m standing by the 2-3 record.
dag..I agree…Vick is one of a few bright spots that brings us hope…and I said it over and over again that the interceptions would be down if Andy didn’t call passes 70 % of the time. More things can go wrong in passing situations and we minimize error by doing what Superbowl winning teams do. We can’t pass the ball continuously like Green Bay because our receiver positions are not strong, fearless receivers ..and out tight end does not compare to Green Bay’s.
The Team is built wrong for what Andy likes to do…Now, I’m encouraged with McNutt which means those losers like Cooper and Mahe Jr (chad hall) can get the hell outta here.
Andy Reid is our biggest problem..Michael Vick is the truth.
If he wasn’t, Kevin freakin Kolb would be our Quarterback.
Speaking of Kolb, damn Arizona must feel like damn fools paying for that Bum while the Philly fans was saying all along he’s ass.
kolb made out like a bandit by fleecing Philly in his last two years here then getting big money in Arizona.
Where the losers at that said Kolb would run this offense better than McNabb and he’s an upgrade from an aging McNabb?
Paulman? Schill?
Vick is the truth and we’ll be more secure if Mcnabb is signed for insurance in case Vick gets hurt and we have to make a run.
I am hoping Vick plays well so the Eagles don’t have to face this in 2013,but here are a couple of options of QB with experience who will likely be available in
2013
Currently on Browns – Colt McCoy or Senaca Wallace
Currently on Seahawks – Tavaris Jackson or AMtt Flynn
Currently on Dolphins – Matt Moore
Currently on Jaguars – Chad Henne or Blaine Gabbert
Currently on Cowboys – Kyle Orton
Currently on KC Chiefs – Matt Cassell
Currently on Arizona – Kevin Kolb
Currently on Redksins – Rex Grossman
, Top 5 QB’s in 2013 Draft that currently have 1st Round Grades
#1) Matt Barkley – USC – 6-1 218lbs ( I have concerns about his height and arm strength)
#2) Tyler WIlson – Arkansas 6-3 220lbs (Big Arm, Proto-Type of Pocket QB)
#3) Logan Thomas – Va Tech 6-5 254lbs (the next Cam Newton some say)
#4) Tyler Bray – Tennessee 6-5 210lbs (another Big Arm ,Pocker Passer)
#5) Landry Jones – Oklahoma 6-4 230lbs (lots of starts in College Career)
To Songs,
I never stated that Kolb would be anything great, in fact, I stated that I could not make a judgement on a any young QB until they play a full season and get 15-16 games under their belt.. He played what 5-6 games in 2 years with the Eagles..
Slow day….. gotta say I am impressed w Logan Thomas, built like Jimmy Graham. Big arm, decent touch, gets the ball out quickly, trusts his reads and isn’t afraid to check down. Pass first QB that has to work on his pocket presence this yr (happy feet) and ball security (too many fumbles), but he could be something special.
One of the best days as an eagles fan was when the shipped out of town that choke artist, air guitar playin, goofy ass grinnin after the pic, no heart, all about me, narcisissa , and even with all that he’s still better than our back ups, again, what’s gonna happen when Vick gets hurt, tell us Andy , who is going to play qb for 2-4 games when Vick is out, I know, we will here it,” gotta do a better job”……..
This is just in…
Andy just said he likes the energy at Lehigh…
Andy?
Didn’t you say that last year?
Paulman Kyle Orton is the only QB I would even remotley entertain. That list you posted just confirms how much you need Vick. My oh my. Hey DJax Rex Grossman or Vick? Hey Maclin we just dumped Vick your new QB is Chad Henne. Are you serious? Try selling that shit to the fan base and the players.
Hahaha @Songs.. yeah he did but he says that every year. Lets see, what are some classic Andy Reid quotes? “There really getting after it” is one lol. “Times yours” is another haha “Let’s go come on” is another one lol. Gotta love Andy. Hes looking pretty slim out here, dropped around 60lbs..
Jon Hart, don’t mind Songs, his brain functions a lot worse than Jason Peters’s Achilles Tendon right now.
If Ben Sheets is going to save the Phils, why can’t Tavaris Jackson or Matt Moore or Seneca Wallace save the Eagles… Good Greif…
@Schiller hahaha yikes. Gotta admit Songs is hilarious though, you guys just react to everything he says which makes it all even funnier
@Paul good one lol