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		<title>By: vinnietheevictor</title>
		<link>http://gcobb.com/2012/09/17/for-the-second-straight-week-vick-shows-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-91286</link>
		<dc:creator>vinnietheevictor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The advent of speakers in the helmets has diminished the need for the traditional huddle.  Most teams now run some version of the &quot;no-huddle&quot; O.  But its not like they&#039;re running the &quot;blur&quot; from Oregon or anything...they&#039;re still taking the full time between plays, just in a different formation.

Vick is not - repeat not - calling offensive plays from the LOS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advent of speakers in the helmets has diminished the need for the traditional huddle.  Most teams now run some version of the &#8220;no-huddle&#8221; O.  But its not like they&#8217;re running the &#8220;blur&#8221; from Oregon or anything&#8230;they&#8217;re still taking the full time between plays, just in a different formation.</p>
<p>Vick is not &#8211; repeat not &#8211; calling offensive plays from the LOS.</p>
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		<title>By: vinnietheevictor</title>
		<link>http://gcobb.com/2012/09/17/for-the-second-straight-week-vick-shows-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-91285</link>
		<dc:creator>vinnietheevictor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2-0 &quot;Its all that matters!!&quot;

Always with you its the end, disregarding what came before.

The Eagles&#039; won &quot;despite&quot; Vick, not &quot;because of&quot; Vick.

If not for the butter fingers of a Cleveland LB, and the inexperience of some new refs on the two second last plays of the game, the birds would be 0-2 with a QB whose thrown 7 picks.

&quot;doesn&#039;t matter - Didn&#039;t happen - He Won he won hw won!!&quot; yells Realtalk!!

Realtalk, if Iran one day gets a Nuke and lobs it at Tel Aviv, but it splashes into the Mediterranean....(Ok, I&#039;ll wait while you find it on Google Maps)....will you say, &quot;Hey it doesn&#039;t matter, Tel Aviv is still there?&quot;

The only reason Vick is still a starting QB at this point is due to blind luck on those 2 plays.  You do know that don&#039;t you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2-0 &#8220;Its all that matters!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Always with you its the end, disregarding what came before.</p>
<p>The Eagles&#8217; won &#8220;despite&#8221; Vick, not &#8220;because of&#8221; Vick.</p>
<p>If not for the butter fingers of a Cleveland LB, and the inexperience of some new refs on the two second last plays of the game, the birds would be 0-2 with a QB whose thrown 7 picks.</p>
<p>&#8220;doesn&#8217;t matter &#8211; Didn&#8217;t happen &#8211; He Won he won hw won!!&#8221; yells Realtalk!!</p>
<p>Realtalk, if Iran one day gets a Nuke and lobs it at Tel Aviv, but it splashes into the Mediterranean&#8230;.(Ok, I&#8217;ll wait while you find it on Google Maps)&#8230;.will you say, &#8220;Hey it doesn&#8217;t matter, Tel Aviv is still there?&#8221;</p>
<p>The only reason Vick is still a starting QB at this point is due to blind luck on those 2 plays.  You do know that don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: vinnietheevictor</title>
		<link>http://gcobb.com/2012/09/17/for-the-second-straight-week-vick-shows-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-91284</link>
		<dc:creator>vinnietheevictor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, if it was in the newspaper it must be true.

When are you going to come up with an independant thought that you haven&#039;t palgerized from the local paper.

You new name is &quot;Coles Notes&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if it was in the newspaper it must be true.</p>
<p>When are you going to come up with an independant thought that you haven&#8217;t palgerized from the local paper.</p>
<p>You new name is &#8220;Coles Notes&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JoeFriday</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeFriday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anybody notice that in the Eagles first series on Sunday without a huddle, they&#039;d set up, then step back, look to the sideline, and then set again? It looked an awful lot like what teams in college do with a spread offense. Maybe it gives AR and MM a peek at the D, and then they can help Mike out a little? Have two plays called, and then MM signals him which one to run? Just a thought, i could be way off base, but it is how it looked to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anybody notice that in the Eagles first series on Sunday without a huddle, they&#8217;d set up, then step back, look to the sideline, and then set again? It looked an awful lot like what teams in college do with a spread offense. Maybe it gives AR and MM a peek at the D, and then they can help Mike out a little? Have two plays called, and then MM signals him which one to run? Just a thought, i could be way off base, but it is how it looked to me.</p>
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		<title>By: lionsden</title>
		<link>http://gcobb.com/2012/09/17/for-the-second-straight-week-vick-shows-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-91277</link>
		<dc:creator>lionsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“route running gets wrs open”….I mean WTF does that even mean….its so stupid. Really? I didn;t know running mattered in the NFL.&quot;  - Ladies and gentilemen of the jury I rest my case.  It is plain and clear that Giant&#039;s fan&#039;s knowledge of the game of American Football is rudimentary at best.

I mean has any “superstar” QB ever been coddled like Vick? - Tom Brady (and all his rules), Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tim Tebow... etc.

People are proud of this Team and how they have fought offensively and defensively showing heart and determination that has not been there for some time now...
People are proud of Vick because they know he&#039;s overcome adversity and has shown leadership in the face of it. I for one am glad he&#039;s had these struggles early because it gave the defense a chance to step up.  They did and gave the fans even more to be confident in.

But you woldn&#039;t know what it is to be a true supportive fan would you.... Bucko.  LOL!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“route running gets wrs open”….I mean WTF does that even mean….its so stupid. Really? I didn;t know running mattered in the NFL.&#8221;  &#8211; Ladies and gentilemen of the jury I rest my case.  It is plain and clear that Giant&#8217;s fan&#8217;s knowledge of the game of American Football is rudimentary at best.</p>
<p>I mean has any “superstar” QB ever been coddled like Vick? &#8211; Tom Brady (and all his rules), Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tim Tebow&#8230; etc.</p>
<p>People are proud of this Team and how they have fought offensively and defensively showing heart and determination that has not been there for some time now&#8230;<br />
People are proud of Vick because they know he&#8217;s overcome adversity and has shown leadership in the face of it. I for one am glad he&#8217;s had these struggles early because it gave the defense a chance to step up.  They did and gave the fans even more to be confident in.</p>
<p>But you woldn&#8217;t know what it is to be a true supportive fan would you&#8230;. Bucko.  LOL!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lionsden</title>
		<link>http://gcobb.com/2012/09/17/for-the-second-straight-week-vick-shows-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-91276</link>
		<dc:creator>lionsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eagles do well with no-huddle attack

&quot;...the Eagles unleashed a hurry-up offense of their own. On the first drive, quarterback Michael Vick called plays at the line, and the Birds marched down the field. The series, of course, ended with Vick&#039;s first interception, but the offense had some success.

The Eagles brought it out later in the game, and, when they needed it on the game-winning drive, Vick ran the no-huddle effortlessly.&quot;

articles dot philly dot com/2012-09-18/sports/33903711_1_dominique-rodgers-cromartie-ravens-quarterback-joe-flacco-torrey-smith

Giant&#039;s Fan...when I&#039;m bored and there is little else to do I can always count on smacking you around to perk me up...

Vinnie the Evicted, Clown Prince of GCobb]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagles do well with no-huddle attack</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the Eagles unleashed a hurry-up offense of their own. On the first drive, quarterback Michael Vick called plays at the line, and the Birds marched down the field. The series, of course, ended with Vick&#8217;s first interception, but the offense had some success.</p>
<p>The Eagles brought it out later in the game, and, when they needed it on the game-winning drive, Vick ran the no-huddle effortlessly.&#8221;</p>
<p>articles dot philly dot com/2012-09-18/sports/33903711_1_dominique-rodgers-cromartie-ravens-quarterback-joe-flacco-torrey-smith</p>
<p>Giant&#8217;s Fan&#8230;when I&#8217;m bored and there is little else to do I can always count on smacking you around to perk me up&#8230;</p>
<p>Vinnie the Evicted, Clown Prince of GCobb</p>
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		<title>By: Stevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He wont Real.... he wont because he&#039;s the chick at the party that doesnt care about sounding dumb as long as everyone is looking at her. Im going to ignore him for a while. Ill poke fun at him next week when baby arm gets wacked but..... we should just ignore him... hes not a bird fan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He wont Real&#8230;. he wont because he&#8217;s the chick at the party that doesnt care about sounding dumb as long as everyone is looking at her. Im going to ignore him for a while. Ill poke fun at him next week when baby arm gets wacked but&#8230;.. we should just ignore him&#8230; hes not a bird fan.</p>
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		<title>By: RealTalk777</title>
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		<dc:creator>RealTalk777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn, when is this guy just gonna shut the hell up? blah, blah, blah, blah, all the time! 
Eagles 2-0, shut the hell up! 

But to add to your point about the quick reads....Its not simplistic offense, its game planning and play scripting....just give coach AR and MM creidt! 

Fact, in the beginning of each game, AR scripts the first 10 plus plays of the game...Scripts them so well, that he knows who will be open....This is what AR does, as a coach, give him credit and stop making it out to be a bad thing....so what? fact is Vick has plays where there are multiple reads....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, when is this guy just gonna shut the hell up? blah, blah, blah, blah, all the time!<br />
Eagles 2-0, shut the hell up! </p>
<p>But to add to your point about the quick reads&#8230;.Its not simplistic offense, its game planning and play scripting&#8230;.just give coach AR and MM creidt! </p>
<p>Fact, in the beginning of each game, AR scripts the first 10 plus plays of the game&#8230;Scripts them so well, that he knows who will be open&#8230;.This is what AR does, as a coach, give him credit and stop making it out to be a bad thing&#8230;.so what? fact is Vick has plays where there are multiple reads&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: vinnietheevictor</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinnietheevictor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me explain in more detail Lionsden, because I know this whole, &quot;but its not Michael Irvin telling it to me on TV so I don&#039;tt understand/believe business if tough for you...

While a guy like Brady may walk to the line with a primary, and 2 (maybe 3 but doubtful) secondaries. (and I say doubtful because it is very seldon that a QB actualy &quot;goes through his reads&quot; like they tell you on TV.  It happens, but the average NFL passing play is 2.9 seconds long.  Phisically impossible for anyone to look at 4 or more moving targets and assess whether they are open or not in that time).  The vast majority of NFL plays are 1st or 2nd reads.  Most already decided upon by the QB after he gets to the LOS and reads the coverage, and determining which of his options will be open in 2 seconds later.

Vick is not good at pre-snap reads.  Even you, his most ardent supporters must concede this point.  Reid knows this.  So Reid doesn&#039;t give him the opportunity - sure he gets to change from a pass to a run if he sees a LB dropping off, but every JV gets to do that too.  So, Vick walks to the line with a primary and perhaps one secondary.

Reid then runs &quot;slow developing&quot; iso plays because he:
1 - believes in his O-line to be able to hold blocks much longer than league average (Something you clearly do not believe in, constantly saying VIck gets no protection)
2 - he knows he has a mobile QB that can extend plays a little while longer.

So he runs them.  Nice.  Easy.  One read.  Sends Mac and Desean as decoys deep and then Celek across the entire field underneath.  Couple short hooks to pull up the Safities and Desean deep......whatever.

Remember that early play in Washington last year...deep to Desean.  This was a prime example.  That was to Desean and Desean only....He was given one target.

This probably also explains other plays that leave us scratching our &quot;why didn&#039;t he see that open guy&quot; heads...most noteably the ill-fated throw to Cooper when Desean and Maclin open underneath.  Was locked in from before the snap.

Very different from Brees who I guarantee you walks to the line with a lot more going on in his noggin.  

My experience tells me, that when things heat up...and defenses tighten....This kind of simplistic O will not work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me explain in more detail Lionsden, because I know this whole, &#8220;but its not Michael Irvin telling it to me on TV so I don&#8217;tt understand/believe business if tough for you&#8230;</p>
<p>While a guy like Brady may walk to the line with a primary, and 2 (maybe 3 but doubtful) secondaries. (and I say doubtful because it is very seldon that a QB actualy &#8220;goes through his reads&#8221; like they tell you on TV.  It happens, but the average NFL passing play is 2.9 seconds long.  Phisically impossible for anyone to look at 4 or more moving targets and assess whether they are open or not in that time).  The vast majority of NFL plays are 1st or 2nd reads.  Most already decided upon by the QB after he gets to the LOS and reads the coverage, and determining which of his options will be open in 2 seconds later.</p>
<p>Vick is not good at pre-snap reads.  Even you, his most ardent supporters must concede this point.  Reid knows this.  So Reid doesn&#8217;t give him the opportunity &#8211; sure he gets to change from a pass to a run if he sees a LB dropping off, but every JV gets to do that too.  So, Vick walks to the line with a primary and perhaps one secondary.</p>
<p>Reid then runs &#8220;slow developing&#8221; iso plays because he:<br />
1 &#8211; believes in his O-line to be able to hold blocks much longer than league average (Something you clearly do not believe in, constantly saying VIck gets no protection)<br />
2 &#8211; he knows he has a mobile QB that can extend plays a little while longer.</p>
<p>So he runs them.  Nice.  Easy.  One read.  Sends Mac and Desean as decoys deep and then Celek across the entire field underneath.  Couple short hooks to pull up the Safities and Desean deep&#8230;&#8230;whatever.</p>
<p>Remember that early play in Washington last year&#8230;deep to Desean.  This was a prime example.  That was to Desean and Desean only&#8230;.He was given one target.</p>
<p>This probably also explains other plays that leave us scratching our &#8220;why didn&#8217;t he see that open guy&#8221; heads&#8230;most noteably the ill-fated throw to Cooper when Desean and Maclin open underneath.  Was locked in from before the snap.</p>
<p>Very different from Brees who I guarantee you walks to the line with a lot more going on in his noggin.  </p>
<p>My experience tells me, that when things heat up&#8230;and defenses tighten&#8230;.This kind of simplistic O will not work.</p>
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		<title>By: vinnietheevictor</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinnietheevictor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;route running gets wrs open&quot;....I mean WTF does that even mean....its so stupid.  Really?  I didn;t know running mattered in the NFL.

Listen,  You think everyone is out to get Vick.  Its always everyone else&#039;s fault and all that.

You miss the basic point.  Reid and Morning are trying to protect Vick.  They design (simple) plays so he can succeed.  

I mean has any &quot;superstar&quot; QB ever been coddled like Vick?  Simple plays.  Simple reads.  Constant praise.  &quot;I&#039;m so proud of you - so proud&quot; after the comeback the other day....I thought I was watching a junior high game.  Maybe afterwards they could all cuddle into bed and re-read &quot;The Little Engine That Could&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;route running gets wrs open&#8221;&#8230;.I mean WTF does that even mean&#8230;.its so stupid.  Really?  I didn;t know running mattered in the NFL.</p>
<p>Listen,  You think everyone is out to get Vick.  Its always everyone else&#8217;s fault and all that.</p>
<p>You miss the basic point.  Reid and Morning are trying to protect Vick.  They design (simple) plays so he can succeed.  </p>
<p>I mean has any &#8220;superstar&#8221; QB ever been coddled like Vick?  Simple plays.  Simple reads.  Constant praise.  &#8220;I&#8217;m so proud of you &#8211; so proud&#8221; after the comeback the other day&#8230;.I thought I was watching a junior high game.  Maybe afterwards they could all cuddle into bed and re-read &#8220;The Little Engine That Could&#8221;</p>
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