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Castillo Move Is Still Hurting Andy Reid And Eagles

Looking back Andy Reid made a terrible mistake moving Juan Castillo from his offensive line position to become defensive coordinator.  The move weakened two areas of the football team.  Everybody talks about how he did a poor job as a defensive coordinator, but the truth of the matter is that Castillo is being missed most of all at his offensive line spot.

He was tireless in his work with journeymen backup offensive linemen.  We used to joke that Castillo would be putting his offensive linemen through drills in the airport when they go on a road trip or in the bathroom during their lunch break.  Castillo was passionate about working the backups so that they were ready when called upon.

The Eagles backup offensive linemen can’t block for this team’s passing attack and that has forced them to abandon their downfield passing game, which is Michael Vick’s, DeSean Jackson’s and Jeremy Maclin’s strength.  If you limit them to throwing the ball short, they’re not nearly as successful.  It’s very simple, their offensive line as constructed and coached right now, can’t block for a deep passing team.

The reason for that is two-fold.  Unlike Castillo, Mudd can’t get these backups to do an adequate job protecting the quarterback or blocking for the run, and General Manager Howie Roseman can’t acquire the kind of offensive linemen that Mudd can coach to do the job.

Mudd has shown that he is a very good offensive line coach as long as he has his type of guys playing there.  He did a great job with Jason Peters and Jason Kelce because they’re good athletes and his type of offensive linemen.  They had put together some great running plays for LeSean McCoy and their athletic offensive linemen.   Peters and McCoy were doing things together that was amazing offensive and defensive coordinators around the league.   But he hasn’t done a good job with the mediocre guys who Castillo worked with for years and used to go to five NFC Championship games and one Super Bowl.

Mudd doesn’t have enough of his type of offensive line on this roster or he isn’t flexible enough to make the necessary changes to coach them to do the job.  Bottomline, this offensive line isn’t good enough.

Castillo would come up with some chicken salad regardless of whatever he was working with.  An offensive lineman didn’t have to be a good athlete for Castillo to drill him and drill him and drill him, so that he would at least do a decent job, if they needed him to step in there.   Mudd on the other hand is one of these, it’s my way or the highway guys and he can’t get much out of these mediocre athletes, who play backup positions around the NFL.

Again, this points us to Roseman, who hasn’t been able to get Mudd the type of backups which he needs.  You can blame this on Roseman for not getting the proper backups or Mudd for not being to coach them, or Andy Reid for putting them together.

The Eagles biggest problem is that the pieces in this jigsaw puzzle don’t fit together.  This is a big play team with a big play quarterback and big play receivers, but this offensive line can’t block for a team like that.  They’re a short passing game offensive line.

The other problem with this offensive line is that they can’t run block.  The Atlanta Falcons have one of the worst run stopping defenses in the league, but the Birds weren’t able to run the ball against them.  LeSean McCoy wasn’t even able to average three yards a carry.

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60 Comments for “Castillo Move Is Still Hurting Andy Reid And Eagles”

  1. It’s amazing to see how well RT Winston Justice is playing for the Colts
    (who Eagles gave away for nothing practically — 7th Rd Pick)
    and how Mike McGlynn is playing Guard for the Bengals as a Starter
    and even OT Austin Howard looks better than what the Eagles have in Demetress Bell..
    The Eagles have let some quality OL Leave in the last couple of Seasons which has come back to haun them with losing Peters/Kelce and that’s the bottom line and Howard Mudd is simply a little too old, not in the best of health to coach these guys up.. Mudd is repsonsible for they have on this Team for it was him input to Draft OT Kelly, to keep the Players that are on the 53 Man Roster.. Demtress Bell was a terrible pick-up (As I called back in Julne) and simply should have never even made the 53 Man Roster.. I would have rather seen Mudd work all Summer on players like DJ Jones, Welch, and Vandervelde who could have turned out as better back-ups than what they kept..
    This Franchise is a complete mess right now from the Front Office and Drafting to Roster Management to Salary Cap Issues (Eagles are projected to be $17 Million over the Cap for 2013) to A poor 53 Man Roster to begin with as I have stated numerous times
    Why keep 5 Running Backs when you don’t run the ball often..
    Why keep 9 DE when your OL is a mess.. Why Keep 3-4 Punt Returnman on your Roster when D-Jax gives you the best chance for a Big Play..

    This Team is being run by a bunch of Amatuers (from Roseman and Coach AR) on down as far as Roster Manangement, Talent Evaluation and Coaching) and can someone tell me how Special Teams Coach Bobby April keeps his Job.. This guy is one of the Top Paid Special Teams in all the NFL and his Special Teams units have gotten worse, worse each of his 4-5 Seasons in Philly and his PRess Conferences make me puke for he is so full of hot air that he should have been a Politcian.. Now his son has a paid position with the Eagles too.
    I hate to even say this, but it’s true.. Where have you gone Joe Banner who was the brains and mastermind into building the Eagles to a respectable,competitive Organization and it’s gone down hill fast since 2010 when he relinquisged control to AR and Roseman and last year was a lame duck year for him for it was already decided that he was moving on after 2011.

    • @ Paulman, right on ……. bring in Marc Ross from the Giants to be the next GM, and bring in Ray Horton from Arizona, to be the next head coach.

      • Marc Ross would be an excellent Hire BigtimeFan, great choice and call.
        He knows the Franchise,the City and it’s Fan base and has learned a great Deal working under one of the Top GM’s in teh business in Jerry Reese of the Giants as far as Talent/Drafting,Roster Management and putting together a physical and talented Roster and Team to refelect the Franchise and it’s Fans..

      • Regarding Marc Ross…he would be my #1 Candidate for the Eagles GM job if the Eagles cleaned house. A real Football GM who has a proven track going all the way back to his time with Tom Modrak and the Eagles.

    • @paulman

      Wow what a great post. You are right on.

  2. I have a question for everyone out there. If you were a offensive lineman and Howard Mudd was your coach would you listen to him? HELL NO YOU WOULDNT look at the guy? he looks like a homeless bum asking for change in the subways. Who fears howard mudd? he’s on a damn cane and can barely walk for Gods sakes and you expect these kids to take him seriously?

    AND NOW!!!!! drum roll please…. We have a comment from Michael Vick!
    Vick says the Eagles are now going to make a Playoff run! HAHAHAHAH ahhhhhhh Vick when will you learn you Damn bafoon! I guess the dynasty down graded a bit huh? when will this moron learn to stfu.

    • @ Eagles suck, I couldn’t agree with you more! When you watch NFL ” Soundtracks ” or watch NFL ” Turning point ” , you see other teams have younger, much more energetic co-ordinators and position coaches. Also I watch other teams head coaches who are all amped up, high fiving other coaches and players and who are into the game big time. Andy reid just stands there with his walrus-stash and stares at his Domino’s pizza menu! The team as a whole has no passion and enthusiasm, they stand on the side line and laugh when they are down by 14 points and getting their asses handed to them. Andy Reid wasn’t too bad a coach with Ray Rhodes players like, (Jerimiah Trotter,Brian Dawkins, Hugh Douglas,Ike Reese, Troy Vincent and Tra Thomas ) , but he SUCKS, with Howie Rosemens players like, ( Danny Watkins, Kurt Coleman, Demetress Bell, Ernie Simms, Trevor Laws, Daniel Teo’ Nesheim…..that’s enough, I can’t take anymore ! ) Andy Reid is GONE, after this year…… PLEASE, Jeffery, send Howie Roseman with Andy. I will drive them both to the airport !!

  3. A lot easier to play oline for Dalton who has the quickest release time in the NFL.

    A lot more difficult to play oline for Vick who has the slowest release time in the NFL.

    Also difficult to play tackle for a QB who drops back to the point of DE convergance 1/2 the time.

    Mike Vick has had “terrible” olines Under Reves in Atl, then again under Mora in Atl, and under Reid in Philly. Wherever he’s gone, the oline has sucked. Different players, different coaches…one constant. Why would anyone ever consider that, perhaps, the constant is the issue, not the variables.

  4. The wheels have been falling off of this team for the last several years. Wasted early picks like Watkins, Graham, Marsh, Matthews, Allen, Te’o-Nesheim, Lindley have killed this team. Fascination with undersized players has killed this team. Fixation on a pass-happy attack has killed this team.
    I hope Lurie is doing his do-diligence researching who will take over this team next year. Hopefully he realizes that the team needs a GREAT General Manager as a starting point.

  5. This oline stinks and if Peters and Kelce were in there they’d be scoring more points and hence we’d have a better record. You dont lose a tackle of Peters skills and expect to be the same. Kelce was the final nail.

    He can talk playoffs all he wants cause as a pro your supposed to feel like you still have a shot.But they wont be able to run the ball on quality opponents come p-off time,I dont like there chances.

  6. Erock let me ask you something. As a Eagles fan are you not tired of hearing how good this team is from the national media and the players themselves but yet they still dont show it on the field? you have to be annoyed. The guys on this team Vick Babin Cole they all think they’re playing at a pro bowl level this year according to their mouths.

  7. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I specifically remember the offensive line sucked in Juan’s last year as coach on that side of the ball.

    Same thing with Harbaugh. Our special teams sucked his last year as that coach before he was moved to defensive backs coach.

    The pattern is the same – when a group of players suck, expect that coach to be promoted.

  8. Are you sure about that Erock?

    Lets break down the last 16 games the Eagles have played (with last year’s oline and this year’s) into 4 game chunks. Lets lok at the points the Eagles have scored.

    1st 4 games of second half 2011
    17 17 20 14
    Hmmm…look familiar? There’s that number 17. In fact all 4 of these games under 20 pts.

    Last 4 games of 2011 (here are the outliers)
    26 25 20 34
    Now these look better, with only 1 at 20 pts…but the 3 over 20 were against terrible Miami, terrible Jets, and a terrible Washington team who’s season had ended week 1.

    1st 4 games 2012
    17, 24, 6, 17
    There’s that 17 again. 3 of the 4 games under 20 pts

    last 3 games of 2102
    14, 23, 17
    Again 2 out of 3 under 20 points.

    So going back over the last 16 games we see 10 of them at 20pts or less. That’s 2/3 of the last season at under 20 pts a game!! Peters, Kelse or not.

    The only time the offence looked good was against bottom feeders at the end of last year when their seasons were, for all intents and purposes, over.

    I don’t suddenly expect a change away from this trend. Looking at these scores also makes me wonder why it was the D-Coordinator who was fired. This offence is pathetic, and has been going back to mid season last year.

    You cannot win in the NFL scoring 17/game. You cannot win with a QB leading the O to 17 pts/game.

  9. Your right vinnie….. before we had vick we won what…. 5 rings?

    This D is trash…. all bums (as Songs would say)…. why??
    they are small
    they are soft
    they have no time to get open
    they cant make quick throws
    they dont have the pieces
    they dont have the coaches
    they have millions in cap space untouched
    they cant draft
    cant motivate
    cant shake the pressure of the end of the reid era
    cant stop teams on 3rd and long
    cant run the ball

    ALL OF THIS IS TRUE. Vinnie.. you cant argue with the fact this this Oline sucks. Why argue against this? We lost 2 starters and lacked 1 or 2 to begin with. Jason Peters was the best LT in football last year. He’s gone! And BEFORE THE SEASON EVEN STARTED….. they were shuffling guys around that spot because they knew we had nothing. This is basic basic football stuff here. I dont like Mike Vick but yet i defend him a smidge when you spew the crap you do. they ALL suck. all of them. Not 1 or 2….. all of them. And the biggest of them all is the coach….. who is 5 years PAST his time here.

  10. * should say… this TEAM is trash.

  11. A competent QB would hide a lot of those blemishes.

  12. And since when is listing the points the eagles scored (with Peters for 1/2) over the past 16 games…and pointing out that the number 17 is pretty consistent…”spewing trash”

  13. Question Vinnie Why the eenie meeny miny moe
    of picking the scores ?.
    Eagles scored 20+ points 12 games in 2011

  14. I didnt want my previous comments to be read as i actually think we have a shot now. Win two in a row and talk to me. Beating Saints proves nothing.Except there not zombies.

    My point is i think the loss of a first team all league,all world o-lineman has screwed everything up. As well as the up and coming Kelce. It just screws up the flow of the offense.

    G’s point is spot on as well….Mudd cant coach any other technique besides the zone. Fatal flaw.

  15. Gruden would design the offense around Shady…Vick or no Vick he would get the most from him.

    He’d demand the defense play like a unit.And not individual superstars tweeting a request to retweet a stupid sack pose.

    And Gruden understands Philly.

    Touch choice…spend the next 5 years in a booth or take over the Birds and be loved by a city…get em to a ship.

    Look at the other bigtime franchises in the NFL….coaches are respected by there fanbase. Cant have this guy running things with more then half the city loathign him. We may have no SB title in this town,but for the teams that dont have one that are part of the original 16 whos got the best fans? Dont give me Detroit…Minny…who else!!?

  16. Buffalo,Cleveland, Kansas City all have great Fan Bases too..

  17. Gruden has no interest in returning to the sidelines, neither foes Cowher,Dungy, and many of these ex-Coaches that people throw around.. It’s a young mans Profession which requires high energy, attention to detail and a 24/7 Around the entire year type of mentality.. These ex-Coaches have settled into their TV Careers,making good $ while working 1-2 Days a Week.. Their Coaching Days are over..
    A wildcard name out there could be Herman Edwards who has stated many occasions that misses Coaching and would love 1 more shot at it..

    I still think that Owner Lurie must only concern himself with Hiring a Real GM and then let that GM select a Coaching Staff in his likeness..

    How about Eagles Hiring GM Marc Ross from GIants who then hires Herm Edwards as HC.. Herm would go out and get a solid Coaching Staff like a
    Bud Carson or Gunther Cunningham for the Defensive Coordinator.. Herm could bring in a some former ex-Players with Coaching Aspirations like a Brian Dawkins, Ike Reese, J Trotter, T Thomas, B Westbrook perhaps to help groom some of these guys as solid future Coordinators and future Head Coaches..

  18. vinnietheevictor

    To Gotta Luv

    1st off…wrong..they scored over 20 only 9x last year. (now they did score 20 3x – wow! – so I guess you’re lumping those into the 20+ category)

    2 – in the first half they were 6 over 20 and 2 at or below 20…but…in the second half they were 3 over 20 and 5 at or under 20…….that’s an important distinction….

    3 – I did not pick scores at random or “eenie-meenie” like you suggest…….I took the 2nd half of last year and first half of this year to show that there is a pattern…..a trend….

    This was in response to the earlier post that the O would be better if Peters were playing…I merely suggested that this trend of scoring 17 a game began mid-season last year, when Peters was playing and therefore I am reluctant to put it on his absense…..

    You like to look for Vickscuses.

    I like to look for the constant in an equation. There are 3 constants in the Eagles offensive problems. Reid, MM, Vick. And believe me, its time for all 3 to move on.

    But because Reid and MM have run offensces that have been productive in the past, and Vick has not, I lean towards Vick being the constant problem in the points scoring area.

    No matter where Vick goes its the same story….Shitty olines in atl under reeves, shitty wr production in atl under reeves, low scoring under reeves, shitty oline under mora, shitty wr production under mora, low scoring under mora, shitty oline under Reid, shitty wr production under reid, low scoring under Reid…….the same problems follow. Blame the coaches, blame the wrs, blame the olines…blame everyone except the one constant in every equation.

    Jon Gruden? really? That’s where some prople are going?

  19. “A competent QB would hide a lot of those blemishes”.

    And a oline does the same thing.

    So does a Dline that can get to the QB once or twice a game.

    So does a Run game.

    So does a coach on a team who says…. “hey, heres an idea.. lets stick with the run”.

    ALL of these things help. ALL of these things can hide blemishes.

    NONE of these things exist on this team.

  20. vinnietheevictor

    But I just read that Vick led a “players only” meeting. Great!! Those usually work for a week…sometimes 2 even!!

  21. Vinnie…. the #1 reason this team sucks this year is Andy Reid. Period. He wanted the power… he has it. He wanted to name his coaches… he did. He built this team.. qb included. Kevin Kolb was not going to fix all these problems. I know you hate to hear that but… he was not a better option. Do you really think Baby arm could have handled ANY of the hits Vick has taken this year?

  22. ill take that meeting…. its a bout time they do something. If im Vick i get together with some of the D leaders and I say…. lets step it up. There is NO reason teams should be able to roll over our D. There is NO reason they needed flag after flag on Sunday. On O…. id say… we are going to run the ball. Period.

  23. vinnietheevictor

    1 They may all be factors, but the Qb is the most important factor.

    2 – the oline will improve under any qb not named “I take the longest in the league to throw the ball”

    3 – The dline will improve if we get a lead in the second half and can then concentrate on the QB…..and if they at some point decide to featue Graham, Hunt and Curry instead of Cole and Babin.

    4- Most teams in the nfl pass 65% of the time. This hass been a conscious decision/move by the league. All the rules favour passing attacks. No one “sticks with the run” anymore. Get used to it.

  24. vinnietheevictor

    “I think I was just trying to cater to certain things, trying to be what everybody wanted me to be … I gotta get my ‘swag’ back, get back to playing football the way I love to play it.” Mike vick today.

    Well that’s it then. Just get that Swag back!

    Play it the way you want to play it Mike!

    That’s all we need.

    Swag it!!

    No catering!

    No more being who others want you to be! Just do your thing!!

    Swag it!

    Play it the way you wnat to play it Mike!

    This is all very exciting!

  25. ughhhh.. y must you do this every day when you are over and over and over again thumped on this.

    1. NO… you are wrong!!! Look at N.O right now…. they have their QB…. the team is very much capable of winning,,, but where is their coach? A good qb solves MOST of your probs but…. if your coach sucks… you have no chance. EVERYONE knows Reids game by now. He’s ALL about fast and small. Throw Throw Throw Throw.. it doesnt work unless you are Brady, Rogers, and such…..

    2. We dont have these kind of recivers. Why is this so hard to understand? This didnt work with Kolb did it? Noone is open on this team after 2 seconds. WHY?? Because thats NOT THE KIND OF O WE RUN. They need time and they need space. This is not a Vickxucuse or whatever… its fact.

    3. We had a lead. 2 weeks in a row. We had this. It got Juan fired. We also had this ALL last year. where the F where you? I know I know… turnovers. Fine… i agree… but WE HAD THE LEAD!!! I blame Andy for throwing when we had the lead…. see #1.

    4. But we dont throw 65% of the time. We throw nearly 70. AND… we lead the league in runs to NOWHERE.

    Listen, little sister…. I know its a passing league. Do you understand that we dont have an Oline. We dont have enough bodies to play the frigging games. Free release for rushers does not give us time to do what we need.

    I AGREE with you that Vick is a problem but he’s like 3 or 4th on a rather long list.

  26. Way too late for team meetings, this team and most of it’s Coaches and Players are srill in denial about simply being an average Team with players who have accomplished or won very little at the NFL Level and many even during their COllegiate Career.. (outside of C Jenkins)
    What has Cole,Celek ever won at Cincinnati and with the Eagles
    Or Vick at VT, Falcons, D-Jax/Asmo at UI Of California, Raiders
    DRN at MIdd Tenn State and Arizona XCardinals., etc,etc,etc

    Eagles will win 3 more Games this Season
    1 Win each versus the Redksins & Cowboys and 1 Win versus the Panthers
    at 6-10, they should have around teh 8th-10th Pick in th NFL Draft which is the only good thing to come out of this Season besides the Cleaning house which should have been done 4 Seasons Ago when the Eagles were humiliated by the Cowboys in Back to back Weekens in the final game of the Season and then down at Cowboy Stadium in that Wild_card Blow-OUt..
    Coach AR, MM and his Staff and the entire Eagle Franchise has never recovered from this beat-down by the hated Cowboys and all the excuses where that Center Jamal Jackson was injured, then this guy is injured, and yada,yada yada.. Look around the NFL, team adn yers SUper Bowl Teams have sustained many injurires on their way to the Super Bowl..
    Look at the GIants LB,Secondary,OL & TE corps from Last Season
    or the PAckers, Injuries the Season before that or the Steelers mess along their OL the years they Won it all …
    Somehow,someway, all these other Teams seem to develop and have their back-up players step up when called up and the Eagles used to do this also, but it’s been a few years where the Coaching, and ability for players to step in just doesn;t happen and appear they have to learn on the fly and end up being isolated and picked apart by opposing teams..
    I think I mentioned this earlier.. Why does every Team the Eagles face appear to have a Top #5 Defense.. Clearly the EAgles Offense hasn’t become this predictable at the NFL Level has it.. It seems most Teams know half the plays the Eagles Offense are going to run, simply by their formations.. This entire Eagles FRanchise sucks and needs Changes all up and down the Front OFfice, Coaching Staff and about 20 of it’s players

    Post 2012 Season as new GM in charge of Roster Managment, I would flat out release the Following Players
    MIke Vick, Dion Lewis, Demetress Bell, Clay Harbor,Riley COoper, Jason Babin, C Jenkins, Jamar Chaney, Casey Matthews, Nnamdi Asmoguah,
    Darryl Tapp for starters..

  27. To all the people who want Gruden I simply say bite me! To all the people who say run more I say double bite me because if you think Vick is getting creamed behind that line of munchkins I see McCoy getting killed! Does us a favor Andy, run 25 about 1 time a game for the rest of the year, so that yor replacement will have a fresh and healthy25 next year!

  28. “Way too late for team meetings”… y? They are 2 games out and 1-0 in the Div. Honestly…. there is no reason they cant jump back in this thing..

    About the run game. Havea- i hear ya about saving McCoy but… swing passes, screens and regular runs can help this team.

  29. vinnietheevictor

    They ran about 50 screens last week. How’s that work.

    But it all doesn’t matter.

    ‘Cause haven’t you heard? Vick called Austin Powers this week and he’s getting his Swag Back!

    Swag Back! Its all good now.

  30. I’m a huge fan Steve but this is a collection of losers and it is really hard to get behind them and live and die with this group of low character losers. They are led on the field by a loser… Personally I like the Vick story and think he fights as hard as a pit bull (couldn’t help it) but in the end he is a low character person, was raised that way I guess and a leopard can’t change that spot.
    There are just no like able guys on this team, no one to get behind except shady who I feel sorry for.

  31. actually it was good…. McCoy had like 75 yards total and 2 td’s. haha.. that one back fired.

    I would argue he needs the ball more. 17 touches for your best player is not good.

  32. Have.. yup. I agree.. you see…. when a person explains why they dislike a guy instead of spewing hate and blaming said guy for gas prices and such… i respect that.

    I also am not crazy about the me me me stuff these guys show. I will be glad when the “young guns” crap is gone.

  33. I love it…. Vinnie… wow… McCoy has 2 Td’s and you ask me how that worked out. lol.

  34. More like “Young Blanks” is more approriate
    Who else besides myself had the Eagles WR Corps ranked among the bottom
    1/3rd of NFL.. Look around the NFL fellas, You guys continue to Overrate this Eagles WR Corp’s and I have never understood why…

  35. Fraud I begged them to let Jackson walk! His act that contract year should have had him released! The beginning of the lack of character era

  36. Pman… WRONG….. we were ALL begging for a tall wr with good hands.

    Seriously people…. what friggin site are you going to where people were saying our WR’s are the best? What site do you go to that said Vick is “the man”? What people are you battling that claim the phills were gunna win it all no problem? Where are people saying this Eagles team was gunna win it all no problem?

    You idiots are crazy.

    The overall opinion about this year for both the phills and eagles went like this….

    Phills…. lots of injuries… getting old… CAN do it if…if…if…

    Eagles…. lots of talent… q’s at the qb position, need to add a vet behind Vick. Red zone woes look to continue. Lots of question marks at the D coaching spot and lb, FS.

    THIS IS THE TRUTH.

  37. Vinnie found some 6th grader that thinks Vick is the man and he’s hell bent on changing this little kids opinion. Just post the pics of the dogs vinnie and be done with it.

    Pman is fighting with some mythical dragon that appears to talk about budgets and such….

    Here’s and idea…. why dont you two fight about Politics for a month or 2 and give the room a break of your sports egos.

  38. vinnietheevictor

    No, that’s not the truth Stevo.

    The story this offseason was:

    1) That the Birds were going to carry last year’s end of season run (againstdregs) into this season – wrong

    2) That for the first time sine joining the Eagles Vick would have an offseason to work with the offense and he would have his best season as a pro. – wrong

    3) That Vick had dedicated himself to film study, learning etc. That he was improved in these areas and the combination of his amazing athletic ability and nefound knowledge he would be nigh unstippable – wrong.

    We heard these things 50,000x this offseason (and in here too) and I didn’t believe any of them because I have watched Vick for a decade and he’s garbage.

    As for the likeable bit…I’ve been echo haveacigar’s points for 2 years. Vick is not a likeable guy. The dog bit notwithstanding, he’s got a “everyone is against me” (the refs, the fans, the coaches) attitude that I hate. I completely dislike his demeanor, body language, slumping alone on the bench, perma-scowl, and the stupid sideways hat like he’s some grade 8 punk.

    Oh and I love how you’re trying to spin the all screens all the time playcalling from last week….citing McCoy’s 2 tds as evidence it “worked out”

    What game did you watch? At what point, did you ever actually believe that the kindergarten pop-gun attack they put in for Vick was capable of keeping up with the Falcs? Did we not get embarssed at home? Did we not score the traditional 17? Was one of the TDs not in garbage time when no one cared or was trying? Did not our superstar QB throw for an aneimic 190 or some pathetic shit like that…….

    That dink and dunk patheticness is something you roll out for a newbie QB. FOr his first start. And if that’s the kind of shit they have to run for Vick to have “his most successful day” then God almighty its time to move on.

  39. Paulman- agree with you

    I was told Marc Ross was “let go” right before the draft by the Eagles (dont remmeber the year) because he didnt agree with the players Reid and Heckert wanted to draft and wanted Colston when he was in the draft in the 5th round and was told by Reid, “we dont need a WR”…..this is from a friend who used to work in Marketing for them….

    Ross is very bright….Roseman is over his head and not a viable GM…move him to the Accounting department

  40. It might have been right after the draft when Ross was let go,l.l

  41. Vinnie… give me a break…

    #1. From the eagles.
    #2 From the eagles.
    #3. From the eagles.

    No fan was blowing that smoke. In fact… ALL of us werw laughing at that crap.

    As for the pop warner o you speak of… i just watched rivers check down to his rb a few times and guess what… he is not pop warner. How the snot do you expecr thw birds to throw complicated patterns out there when vick has no time? How can u say with a str8 face that u want quick reads for 40 friggin yards?

  42. What is true is this….. the eagles D got their hats handed tk them last week. Not all the games are on the d but they own most of that one.

  43. Bench Philip Rivers.lmao. What a turnover machine whose team has underachieved for years. Why is it that Im not reading this stiff of a QB is talked about being benched? Only the Vick and McNabbs of the world. lol Oh yeah hes a gunslinger, I forgot Philly is the only city that has suffered and wants to win a championship. What a double standard.

    • Because he isn’t our QB, this is a Philly site, & we don’t give a f^#@ about Rivers! That’s why. Where’s the double standard?!? WTF are you talking about?

  44. can’t help but look at the 2011 EAgles draft and how bad it was and is…

    this was the first draft ran by Reid/Roseman and it was awful…

    #1 – Watkins – bust
    #2 – Jarrett – bust
    #3 – Marsh – lost and lacks talent
    #4 – Mathews – blows

    what a draft…. this is why the Eagles team is not good…

    Please Lurie for the love of god, hire a real GM….Roseman and Reid need to go….

  45. Owner Lurie to Announce the Hiring of GMCliff and Paulman to run the Eagles Front Office effective the Monday after Thanksgiving

    GMCliff to be in charge of the Draft and Scouting Dept
    Paulman to be in charge of Roster Management, Salary-Cap and Free-Agency

  46. To Vinnie :
    ” You like to look for Vickscuses.”…thats pretty clever I like that..lol
    I myself subscribe to casuality or cause/effect…

  47. Paulman’s 5 Most Hated Players on the Eagles Squad

    #1) Mike Vick
    #2) Nnamdi Asamougah
    #3) D-Jax
    #4) Trent Cole
    #5) Jason Babin/Brandon Graham

  48. I dont hate 1 player on that list myself however I will address each person:

    #1) Vick – don’t hate the player, hate the idiots that gave him the keys to the franchise.

    #2) Vick – Guy stinks, don’t hate the player, hate the idiots that gave him the mega deal based on his overall ratings on Madden ’08.

    #3) D-Jax not sure how I feel about this guy, too me he looks like a 1 trick pony, but then again I have seen him make some pretty tough catches this year. He needs a creative coach to utilize him like a Percy Harvin but that would also require a real QB.

    #4) Cole – I know he is unproductive this year in the sack category but he has been a rock for years and I dont think he is disliked by many let alone hated.

    #5) Babin & Graham – don’t think either are disliked or hated prior to yesterday. People may start hating on Babin after his crying yesterday on the radio.

  49. sorry #2 says Vick meant to say Nnamdi

  50. Your getting Soft Henski.. Get with the Program..

  51. jott, guys like Paul, Jake, Vinnie, Songs, & myself, have only been saying that for 3 years now, only to be ripped, called non-fans, bandwagon jumpers, etc, etc. Maybe, just maybe, we know WTF we are talking about! Rosemilk, Reid, his entire staff, & half this roster MUST GO!!!!

  52. golden i think you meant to comment on dfouts.com blog or something– this is about OUR team

  53. Trent Cole has always sucked from Early November on since he focuses more on his Hunting Season which is why I have him on the list..
    And Maybe “Hate” is too strong of a word for I really don’t “Hate” anyone..
    Maybe I should have listed these players as the “Over-Hyped, Overpaid, and Under-Perform” List on the Eagles

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