Report: Roseman Helped Reid Sign Washburn
BREAKING NEWS, Eagles, Front Office, News Tuesday, December 4th, 2012
Jeff McLane of Philly.com reports that Eagles GM Howie Roseman encouraged Andy Reid to hire defensive line coach Jim Washburn. Roseman was impressed with the success of Washburn during his time with Jeff Fisher and the Tennessee Titans.
After Fisher was fired by the Titans, Washburn was let go as well and therefor available, so Roseman encouraged Reid to move quickly to sign him to a deal.
In making this move, Reid broke some of the rules which had helped him build a winning tradition with the Eagles in Philadelphia. He had never hired a defensive line coach before hiring the defensive coordinator.
His first signing as a head coach back in 1999 was the signing of defensive coordinator Jim Johnson.
He signed Washburn right after the 2010 season and after he had just fired defensive coordinator, Sean McDermott. So he had Washburn his defensive line coach under contract before he had signed a defensive coordinator, thanks to Roseman.
It was a mistake which I’m sure Reid and Roseman regret, but they won’t say so publicly.
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Im trying to get Star Lotulelei the DT out of Utah.or Jarvis Jones out of Georgia gets me more excited. I think they are impact players.
What do you guys think about firing Reid, hiring Vic Fangio as HC, change our DF to a 3-4, draft Star Lotulelei to play NT, move Cox, Curry & as the DE’s, Jenkins & Thornton as backups (where they belong), move Brandon Graham, & Hunt out to ROLB (where they should be), sign Anthony Spencer to the other side, sign Terrance Knighton, to rotate with Lotulelei, have Kendricks & Ryans as the 2 MLB’s, sign Safety Jairus Byrd, draft all secondary, LB’s, OL & a good, big WR. Cut all of the fat on this team. Allen, Coleman, DRC, Jordan, Patterson, Landri, Tapp, Chaney, Matthews, Bell, Vick, Duncrap, & Watkins. Tell Cole & Asomugha that they take cuts, or they’re released, or traded. Start over, now!
@dcar, that scenario has alot of moving parts but i would be all for that.. imagine a hard hitting saftey like byrd. a young hungry middle linebacker and a veteran that can tackle.And a run heavy offense that takes a few shots a game down the field. The only problem i have with this is DESEAN JACKSON. the guy cant block , go over the middle , take reverses,return punts, all he can do is go deep. he makes to much money for that. i want the big reciever to be our go to guy,
Maybe bowe from k.c. i know hes had issues but i think a new city would do him some good. an get Djax outta here for anybody who will take him
the scenario is as good as any. there will be a ton of moving parts next year. and maybe for ttwo years. i don’t know where contracts stand etc and not sure all those moves will be possible in one year but there will be a true housecleaning. there has to be for 2 reasons 1. talent! and 2. attitude. this team is cancerous!
@1977 Your crticizm of DJax and other fans just isnt true.You dont make it to the NFL and be projected to be a # 1 pick and all you can do is go deep. Thats bullshit. Thats what Marty and Andy and thier predictable offense called for him to do, go deep and clear out space for Shady, Celek and Maclin. Do you really think DJax cant run WR screens? Do you really think DJAX cant run 15 yards down field an come back to ball? Do you really think you cant put him in motion and drag him underneath? Of course you can, they just dont ask him to do that. Now he isnt gonna out muscle anyone but you sure can put him in space. I will never question his heart because at 150 pounds to step on a NFL field I think that says it all. .
@daggolden i dont think he doesnt have heart, i just think after he got the concussion he never runs across the middle anymore, i havent seen him run a drag since that falcons game. I think he should be more of a percy harvin type. not carries, but definitely sepcial teams.A prime example of what he is as a player is the arizona game.Caught the ball at the 5, thought the saftey was closer than he actually was, braced for the hit instead of putting his head down and running forward and we dont score. I mean c’mon he had 2 touchdowns this year, santana moss is a part time player and he has six. HE DOESNT DO ENOUGH. i dont care about his yards, 50 mil should equal 10 plus tds a game
@ 1977. Well at 150 pounds he aint putting his head down lol. That is what it is. I understand he is getting paid alot of money but Im thinking MM and his predictable offense is the cause of that. I dont like thier offense. At 150 pounds he isnt running over anyone. Why draft him in the first place. You knew what you were getting.
I still would have him Return Punts which was another stupid Decision by AR and his Staff.. D-Jax probably has 2-3 Top Years left, so why not give him as many Opportunitieds to touch the ball as you can in a game..
I’ve stated since he was drafted, that he should not be on the field once in the Red-Zone since he’s too small and gets lost in the traffic and is just not physical enough to take the pounding.. I have always thought that if D-Jax played 40 Snapps a game he would put up similar Stats as playing 65 Snaps a game where he’s useless 1/3 of the time ..
Smaller WR’s like a Welker,Steve Smith and even Percy Harvin are much more stronger and solid than D-Jax who is just natually a thin, small, fella and is what he is… A Great Deep Threat and Punt Returner but that’s about it, he is not a complete WR by any stretch even though he’s being paid as one..
Desean needs to get EVERY game film of Marvin Harrison’s 13 yr career
and study that…Watch how that dude did everything..Marv wasn’t that much bigger than Desean and rarely took big hits…
yes….why oh why did Harrison have a better career than Desean?
Must have been the design of the offense. Ya, that must have been it!
Marvin Harrison had a deep desire and a strong competitive nature to be the best at his Craft and worked his ass off working on his route running,catching the ball, learning CB’s Tendancies, Learning D/C Cover Schemes.. etc,etc more than D-Jax or most of what today’s Receivers do..
I Remember him and McNabb hooking up many times at the Carrier Dome for Syracuse..
When you look at some of the Top PLayers no matter what the Position
It usualyl comes to a strong work ethic and a burning desire to achieve greatness.. All these Professional Athletes have the outstanding physical tools to be successful, but the great ones have that something extra, that chip on their shoulder, being told they can’t, and just a burning desire to be the best that they can be which we see a little less and less of in Today’s SPortsa and Society in general as Players are making so much $$ today, that their desire and motivation may not be as great as players from 10, 20, 30 Years ago
@ Paulman. I have one simple question. If the coach tells you to run deep 70% of the offensive plays to clear out for other players what is the player suppose to do? I mean nobody is dumb we all watch the same game and the game I see is Jackson running deep a hell of alot of the times. I dont see WR screens. I dont see 5 yard hitches. I dont see dragging him across middle. I see the Eagles sending him deep ALL the TIME. Whoes fault is that? Your gonna blame Djax on the play calls now? Its simple dont send him deep all the time.lol
He also needed someone throwing him the ball.
Larry FItz, from what I understand, is incredibly talented, motivated, and dedicated. But he’s not going to sniff the HOF because he hasn’t had a QB for 1/2 his career.
Switch Harrison and Fitzgerald and Harrison disappears quietly into history….
Desean could study all the marvin Harrison film he possibly could over the past 3 years, it wasn’t going to matter.
Did Demaryius Thomas just sudenly start putting in tons more hard work and dedication this year? No. He has a QB throwing him the ball.
Fitz is a lock for the HOF.
Harrison and Desean are two completely different football players. Harrison grew up dealing with contact, all city Qb at Roman Catholic, Desean was always an outside guy even in high school and still you can’t question his heart. You don’t become a pro bowl punt returner if your scared.
Am I correct that Jackson was on pace for 70 catches and 1200 yards? But only 4 tds? Behind a pathetic oline a QB who stinks in Vick and another QB who throws for 170 yards a game? Hmmmm just imagine.
Eagle fans make no sense. Eagle fans say the oline stinks thats why Shady cant run. But Vick should get rid of ball faster, but Foles is at aY disadvantage, but Vick sucks, but that shouldnt impact DJax he should still have many yards and TDs, but the QB sucked. You cant have it both ways. Eithier Vick sucks and thats why DJax doesnt have more tds or DJax sucks thats why Vick didnt succeed. So with a better QB Jackson should probably get 80 catches for 1400 yards and 10 tds a year right?
@daggolden, certain players become whipping boys for no reason Desean is one them. He gets labeled a thug or soft or he has no character. I don’t know.
no reason? the baby like sulking during his contract year is the REASON i got rid of my djax jersey.
D-Jax has improved very little as a Receiver in his 4-5 Years in the NFL
He has not done or leanr the little things that make a good WR become a great WR.. His Deep SPeed is off the Charts and everyone knows this, but he has failed to develop the solid ROute moves or study his Opponents well enough to
be a all-around WR.. He simply is to small so Teams and Defenders know he’s not going between the Numbers and with the helpd of the Sidelines, opposing Teams CB’s know that 90% of his routes are from the numbers to the sidelines and therefore have less repsonsibility of covering him to the inside since he won’t be running routes that way which makes the CB’s only have to cover a smaller area..
And he still put up good numbers while sulking and after getting confused but hate away.
Concussed
@paulman solid points, but he runs the plays that are called so what the hell is he supposed to do?
Top Players make plays, D-Jax is not a Top Player…
D-Jax should tell and show his Coaches, Hey I can do other things, get me the ball damnit.. Let me return Punts and help this Offense out with better field position, etc… I am not sayign these conversations haven’t happened,but D-Jax seems awful happy and content about not having to return Punts and collecting his Top Dollar Paycheck each week for basically running the same 3 Routes all Game and Season long
He may be the a top-play maker as far as the Eagles WR Corps is concerned,but I am not so sure that is saying a whole lot…
It’s like saying AR is the best Coach in Eagles History, compared to whom…
McNabb the best QB in Eagles History, again compared to whom..
Yea okay that would work, in other words be an ass like TO.
Hey biglion…instead of dropping back to your usual strategy of calling people who disagree with you “haters”….try drawing line graphs. They show change over time.
Graph this one
2 -9-6-4-2
Or this one
62-63-47-58-45
Or this one
912-1167-1056-961-700
Or this one
14.7 – 18.5 – 22.5 – 16.6 – 15.5
Or this one
57 – 78 – 75 – 64 – 63
To help you out, they’ll look like this
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That’s Desean.
Now I think, personally this is because of 2 things. 1 He hasn’t been the same player since 2010 concussion wipeout. (this leads into Paulman’s point) 2 He hasn’t had a competent QB since mid 2010 either.
You fell right back into your hate for the Qb, who nobody was talking about.
well that didn’t work….sufice it to say the graphs are falling down to the right…..not what you want to see as far as production is concerned.
I just think some guys get bad raps Vinnie, Desean being one of them for a small frail guy scared of contact I think your numbers show a pretty productive football player. What do you think?
When looking Stats up on the Top Recivers in the NFL
D-Jax is rated #54 In Overall Receptions though he was Rated as #36 In Targeted Pass Attemps … (45 Receptions in 85 Target Attempts which is not good).
Yardage Wise is he Rated #32 with a 15.6 Yard Average which is good
Scoring TD’s which is what the NFL is really about and there are 85 Players (yea, that’s about 2 Receiver per NFL Team that have more TD’s than him..)
So if you call this Production and living up the hype and your Contract then fine,
I call this a wasted resource and poor Player Utlization by the Coaches and simply “going thru the motions” type of production by the Player..
How in the hell would you know if he’s going through the motions that is idiotic paulman. How many times was he targeted in the red zone? Like I said before maybe he should get in the huddle and call his own plays.
he is the highest paid WR on the team — which translate as he is the first option — he is getting franchise tag money — He wasn’t open because he is too afraid to go inside in the end zone
Baltimore Raven Cary Williams beat him up week 3 and he still is punch drunk from being man handled
The reason for DJAX low production is the same reason why 7 didn’t have time to throw, same reason why 25 didn’t break many runs. The O Line and play calling!
DJAX does not, I repeat does not have to be utilized in the manner in which the Eagles use him. Of course you can’t throw him in the slot on every down in fear of injury due…but you can do it sometimes…with his speed, DJAX could kill from the slot…(Maclin too) DJAX can’t be guarded on the quick out. That is there for him every single time…Utilize that and setup the double move.
The fact that the O line can’t sustain blocks long enough for the WR to run the deep route, has nothing to do with it?
2 TD as the highest paid WR on the team,even though the Eagles had no problem getting into the red zone the first eight weeks
What does his contract have to do with the offense not producing in the red zone.
bonggggggg — DJax was paid to make big plays
big plays are Touch downs
2 TD is not very good — meaning DJax got paid 4.5 million dollars a TD this year
understand
Is that how that works maybe they ought to tell the coaching staff that. Or back to my original thought just let him call his own plays.
If Desean was on the Patriots, I’m pretty sure he’d have been putting up Wes Welker numbers at least (probably more because he’s faster)
If he had been on the Jaguars you’d have never heard his name.
You say that’s the playcalling. I say its the QB.
Bill Belechek would never have a D-Jax on his Team VInnie
He drafts Winners .. Not ego,hey look at me on a 15 Yard Catch
If the Patriots o-line played for Eagles I betcha Vick would still be the Qb and they would be in first place. You say its the Qb, I say it’s the o-line.
Missing in Action from the TV cameras, has anyone seen Howie Roseman?
Nah realtalk its easier just to talk about things they obviously have no clue about.
@paulman you do realize that Corey Dillon the biggest me first lunatic ever played and thrived for BB.
Yes, but he kept his head on straight and played some ball his 1st 2 Years for the Pats until he started acting up and then they canned him.. Just like
Assante Samuel ..
No way Biglion. If Eagles and Pats traded olines at start of season you’d be hearing the announcers at Eagles games saying, “what’s wrong with the Oline…what’s happened to them? Last year they were sooo dominant.”
While over on the Pats broadcasts it’d be, “This Dunlop is a monster. I know he’s had his struggles, but he’s really developing. And what a good young core they have down the right side with _______, ____________,and ___________”
You know what’s the best example of all this? This new guy at right guard. Scott. We go thru 2 terrible guards. Neither can do the job, and suddenlysome last minute signee who was sitting at home and then by moving some 7th rounder who you all thought sucked over one spot….. heyyyy…look at that……only 2 sacks in last 2 games. These guys are $$$$$$….
Without considering the QB played a major roll in that?
If those guys had been there 3 weeks earlier, you clowns would be tearing them to peices guaranteed…..who signed these guys? Whose idea was it to bring in Scott off the couch…this team is a joke….
If you really believe that you have problems
Why shouldn;t I believe that?
Vick’s line sucked on 2 different teams,a nd under 3 different head coaches. Perhaps 25 Oline players, 3 head coaches and a myriad of offensive line and offensive co-ordinators. All sucked.
The one constant. Couldn’t be him…in fact only BECAUSE of him did the team have any success.
Oh, and ignore the stats that point out Oline improved dramatically whenever Vick left the teams, or was hurt. Shhhhhh, they ruin the tall tale Biglion wants to tell about the “fighting against all the suckiness around him” Vick.
What does, let’s say a Danny Amendola have athletically over D-Jax..
That’s right nothing.. But Amendola has outperformed D-Jax big time over the last 2 Years as far as the amount of Catches,Yardaged,Keeping Drives alive and is there any other reason (besides Heart and just doing what it takes to jhelp your Team) that D-Jax couldn’e make the plays,run the routes, take the hits that Amendola makes.. (or a Welker or Edelmen do)
It’s called Heart and Self Pride and being a good Teamate and I’m sorry,
I have not seen these atrributes for D-Jax.. and I am not holding my breath to see an “Cathartic Moment” from him for it ain’t happening..
Didn’t Amendola break a rib or do and was back out on the field in 2-3 Weeks helping his Team win ball games..amazing what a little “Heart” and Passion” and a “Wortk Ethic” will do to people who aspire to succeed..
Eagles simply don’t have enough of these type of players and I am not plaing all the blame on D-Jax/Vick/T Cole for it comes from the Top and without a Leader, some of these things just don’t happen on their own so Coach AR and his Staff share pleny of blame but as a Professional, you need to rise above the distraction and give your maximum effort or your wasting your talent and energy and stealing from the Fans..
agreed. But we were saying this 2 yrs ago.
Oh…BTW….you bring up Edelman, Welker and Amendola as your examples??
you’re about to be called a racist.
And how exactly has that helped the Rams? When did that transform them into a winning team I missed that
The Rams are much further along as a Team with a bright future than the Eagles are and if you can;t see that, then obvisouly you don’t follow Football
Really the Eagles have the same opportunity next year that the Rams will, further along my ass.
Defensively the Rams Front 7 is light years ahead of teh Eagles,
Their CB Play is superior with the physical Finnegan and Def Rookie of the year Candidate Janoris Jenkins.. Safety play has the steady ith Q Mikell
Their OL needs some work and also need a big WR though they have some young ones on the Roster who are improving B Gibson, B Quick,scrappy D Amendola..
I expect the Rams to win 8-9 Games next Season and at least be in a Wild-Card Hunt while Eagles bring up the basement in the NFC and probably will be fortunate to win 6 Games in 2013
Bottom line everybody starts next year 0-0 so please with the further along crap.
Paulman’s 2013 NFC East Predictions
#1) Giants – 11-5
#2) Redskins – 10-6
#3) Cowboys – 8-8
#4) Eagles – 6-10
Paulmans 2014 NFC East
#1) Redskins – 12-4
#2) Giants – 10-6
#3) Cowboys – 7-9 (In Coach AR First Season)
#4) Eagles – 7-9