Eagles Fans Shouldn’t Boo Andy Reid Today
BREAKING NEWS, Coaching Staff, Eagles, News Sunday, December 23rd, 2012
I don’t think Eagles fans should boo Andy Reid today. Yes, this has been a bad year and the Birds should let him go, but Reid has had a great run with the Eagles.
If the fans go after Andy today, it’s going to add yet another chapter in the stereotyping of Philadelphia sports fans. If the fans do something in poor taste, it will be on ESPN all week long.
Class should be the word of the day. Let Reid go out with some cheers. The fans shouldn’t lower themselves to go after Reid with boos.
I would love to know what you think.
As for the game, I don’t expect the Eagles to win the game, but I do expect them to make it close. I think the Eagels pass defense will do a much better job than they did earlier in the year. They can’t do any worse.
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Heres some facts. Sanctions are coming down in Oregon this year. Its being reported that Chip Kelly will be coaching in the NFL next year. He is on alot of teams radar. Its being reported he is at top of Eagles wish list.
Man, I hope NO Chip Kelly in Philadelphia. But if Kelly can use big words and brings a big book Lurie will hire him. The jackass that he is. I will lay odds right now that on the day they have the media get together to announce the hiring Lurie will mention championshipS!
Larrwd,
You are holding on to something that is not going to happen. Where ever he goes that is the team you will have to root for.
Phillyfan leave the drugs alone I guess you are a GM? LOL you ignorant morons keep worrying about Vick for what? Worry about finding a QB for your sorry ass Eagles because Chip Kelly will not be coming there to coach your back-up QB Foles! Vick has at least 8 places he can go so take your delusions and waste them on getting a bag or sheet for your head for the next few years. I sure you will be comfortable with either.. Vick is not your damn business anymore so go worry about Nick “Napolean Dynamite” Foles SUCK! If he reads pre -snaps so well he would have know he could have run the damn ball in himself, instead of throwing a ball that did not get to the line of scrimmage . LOL LOL LOL
You don’t read well do you. Remedial dropout are you? I do not want Chip Kelly here> Mike Vick does have 8 places to go. Never said he didn’t. It will just be as a backup. I do not worry about Vick> I was talking to all the other bloggers who make it a Vick/Foles issue every week. This team has other issues that need to be fixed long before they worry about QB. Also I said in previous posts I am not sure if Foles is the answer. I also said this team had the same problems whether Vick or Foles was the QB. And if you read further I also mentioned that both Foles and Vick have supporters who basically support their man based on his skin color which is really sad. I noticed you mentioned the word sheet in your commentary so I kind of know what kind of individual you are. You are one of the racists I am describing. You are just a sad, disgusting human being.
I thought the article was about Reid and we are talking about the same old crap (The Foles / Vick comparison) can’t we just move on ?. Foles is a rookie with only 5 games of experience. Vick is 33, gets hurt every season, and fumbles and throws allot of interceptions. Foles might be the quarterback next season and Michael Vick will be with another bad team at best. Please let’s move on
Dtime,
Too many haters on both sides of the fence. Ugly word but racism exists on these pages. Reid never won a super bowl which is his downfall. But he should be remembered for resurrecting this franchise from the hopelessness of the Kotite/Rhodes eras. For making the Eagles a “name” franchise, for crediting the Eagles fans and helping build EagleNation. It will take time but when he retires and returns to Philly he will be remembered fondly.
You got it
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The Cowboys lose, Giants getting there butts handed to them again. Not too bad of a day. Go skins next week. Beat the Cowboys.
Just stupid woman on here crying, nothing new
Jake, don’t be so hard on yourself.
First off, Mike Vick is 32 and wont be 33 until June of next year. And why does his age matter so much to everyone when there are older QBs in the NFL that are starters and still productive. The fact of the matter is that the lack of team success was not Vick’s fault and now you all know it. This team has serious offensive line/team problems. And when the line is faulty the entire team implodes. Foles has made a few good throws, but his mistakes have been glaring and game changing. He’s had a clean pocket and admitted himself that he needs to drive the ball more so those are bad throws on his part. Vick on the other hand was playing with the worst line esp being that it was early and they werent coached up enough in the Mudd system. He got hit every single play during or after the play. Teams tried to take his head off. You guys wanna keep waving the Foles flag go right ahead im not knocking it, I hope he succeeds here but to actually say hes better than Vick and runs the offense better and look at the poise of the kid and his Brady-like hair and height is ridiculous. Cut the crap..
**Eagles News**
Its been confirmed through multiple sources that Andy Reid may in fact return to the team next year, not as the Head Coach but primarily in a Front Office role.
My Thoughts– Maybe a smart move having Reid focus on one particular area over trying to oversee multiple ones. When he was the head coach and that alone the team was much better, it was when he started taking on all these other roles as the VP and this area and that area that he let alot of crucial spots slip when in years past he wouldnt have. Let him either just coach or have a role in the front office and thats it. So I dont think this is terrible news.
You sir hit the nail right on the head. Thank you
“And why does his age matter so much to everyone when there are older QBs in the NFL that are starters and still productive. ”
relly? You can’t figure that out?
And I still absolutely love the “Vick got killed behind the terrible oline, but Foles has a good oline now”(he has a clean pocket) narrative that you guys are trying to create.
The oline is the same. They are the same people.
The QB play makes them appear better.
Remember the olines in Atl got better insatantly when the former superstar missed a season. They deteriorated when he returned. They got better instantly when he went away again. Now the Eagles line is suddenly better …..
stop looking at the variables and start looking at the constants.
The fact that the oline is “better” now and is giving up less sacks is not a suprise.
The only thing more terrible about that bs new s is a queer like jh reporting it
The front office job cannot be in the role of selecting talent, Jon. He cannot do that. No coaching either,it is just time to move on It’s funny but another Eagles News report according Sal Pal says the number one choice is Chip Kelly. Man I hope not. No college coaches. It is just time for Andy to move on. Him staying in any capacity just won’t be good at all, but with with Lurie and Roseman at the helm anything is possible.
Really the Oline is better, how many times did Foles get sacked today 5 or 6 times? This Oline sucks for Foles like it did for Vick, but hey at least Foles is playing better then Eli. I guess that means we’ll win a couple of Super Bowls.
LOL @Biglion nice
Vinnietheloser–Were you a McNabb hater too? What black QB do you give credit to? Havent heard you say anything good about RG3 on here. Maybe you have but havent seen it. I guess if hes white than hes alright huh? You need to wake up. This oline has improved somewhat from when Vick was in there because the players are more comfortable with the Mudd scheme. You know that. But you fail to acknowledge that because your too far gone. The team still sucks and is still losing yet you wanna praise Foles because of what? Hes white? Thats sad..
Jeeeezus….the same freekin story from you guys every day.
Blinders on.
look harder. I have spoken on McNabb and RGIII dozens of times. Vick coulnd’t hold McNabb’s jock. Of course you have never seen me say any of these things because you don;t want to see it.
As for “the oline is better because they are cofortable now with the Mudd scheme…..”
Really? You’re going there?
“Hello straw…my name is Jon Hart and I’m grasping”
I thouht I was the only one who noticed the comments of vinniethevictor, I guess he thinks we can’t read in between the lines as to what he is saying
@Jon Hart, I’m just giving these dudes a hard time because they are selective fans who think they are Eagle fans but say things like Foles is the QB of the future so 6-10 will be fine next year.
NO.
You are giving us a hard time because you think Vick is the greatest QB ever and anyone who says differently is a racist.
Vinnie really my man I don’t think your racist I’ve never accused you of that. I don’t give one damn about Michael Vick he’ll do just fine wherever he goes next year.
And I will no longer address Jake seeing as how he done lost his mind.
@Biglion– You are absolutely right they are selective fans. That color thing is something that annoys me to no end. They play the color game whenever its a black or white QB. They are free to root for either guy but be a consistent fan of the team. If Vick is in there root for the guy dont root for him to get hurt so they can put foles in there. What sense does that make? Alot of the comments on here are racially motivated and can feel it thru the way they word themselves. And some guys I wont address either due to how far gone they really are..
So true, I tried to explain to them the difference between the so called Vick fans and non Vick fans is so simple. The Vick fans watch the Eagles play and hope like hell they win regardless who the QB is the non Vick fans could care less if they win or lose as long as the QB isn’t Michael Vick. Now watch all the ridiculous comments.
it flows the oterh way. You Biglion, and larrwd, and Realtalk and songs…none of you want Foles to succeed either.
Nor can any of you see what happened tonight, which was a fantastic outing for a rookie QB.
but you don;t see aht happened today because you do not want ot.
At the very least I saw years and years of the former superstar’s ineptitude before I knew I wanted no part of that failure.
You want Foles out of here after 6 games, despite the fact that he gets better every week.
Again Vinnie I don’t like him your right. You know the difference between Foles and Luck? I’ll tell you Luck would have found away to win that game today!!! BTW if I’m wrong about Foles I’ll be the happiest Eagle fan in Florida.
Foles did too….but Moore dropped it.
Then there was a BS grounding call that made no sense….when he threw the ball I said, “good play – one more chance” and then suddenly the game was over…so who knows what would happen…
Okay but Luck would have Maclin right between the 1 and the 8 for a touchdown and those plays wouldnt have mattered.
he hit Moore right on the numbers…no one says maclin catches that ball. It was a mistake…a bad throw (not so bad it was to the other team)…and he rectified it with a good throw to Moore 2 plays later….
The kid played great today. QB was a problem on this team. Its not anymore. Now on to other positions.
There are many many racially motivated comments written on this site, not just this article but all of them, and those who write those comments know exactly who they are, and will deny it everytime, which is the reason I call them out on it, without beating around the bush
Andy Reid has been the VP of Football Ops (a high level Front Office Position)
Don’t you think JH
In fact The be t VP of Footvall Ops (Tom Donahoe that Paulnan reported over a month ago) has been clearing house of Andy Reid Hires
C’mon nan smell the Coffee, I’ve been dating since 2010 that
This Season (2012) was it for Reid
You guys should start listening and believing in my analysis
Tom Donahoe is the next VP of Footvall Ops replacing Reid and the next
HC will be Mike Noka. (Former HC if 49ers, and recently DC of the Dolphins and currently the NFC Best Team, the Atlanta Falcons)
Fraud– What are you even talking about? Did you write this just for the sake of writing something? This makes no sense at all. He wasnt the VP of Football operations when he got hired! They waited until the team succeeded on the field. Get a clue man. What was this post for? To praise yourself or to receive praise? You have reported nothing that is praiseworthy. Just a bunch of jumbled mess that you make up and take a shot at and hope to hit on.. Btw, get spell check.. sheesh
Nolan will retain Bowles as DC (who worked under him at Miami)
And bring in Cam Cameron as OC/QB Coach to work with
Foles & Edwards next Season
Also could see Nolan getting Falcon hard hitting, Pro Bowl Safety Moore to sign a free agency deal with the Eagles
Nolan will not be head coach here paulman try some other retread. Cam Cameron will be lucky to have a job anywhere next year, who the hell gets fired as the OC of a team going to the playoffs.
And then grant this……
Could a rookie starter at least get 2 games before being rated like a vet?
2 games?
Ifyou do allow that…then look at the last 4 games:
102 for 166 (61%) for 1159 yrds. 6 tds. 2ints
Not good enough.
Not meeting expectations.
Vinnie very good numbers but here is something else 1-3.Like i said before he is putting up numbers but he’s not winning games its not all on him but he needs to be a difference maker.
Those numbers Vinnie are mediocre.You gotta wake up man. And stats mean nothing if out of all these starts he only recorded 1 win, 1 stinking win. Go wave the Foles flag but the facts are the facts. We still dont know who he is. But those numbers are as mediocre as it gets.. period.
For a rookie they are excellent.
and….they’re better than the former starter over his last 4 games….and Foles is just sbeginning his career. This is his base…….for the other guy…….that is his ceiling.
Vinnie ? why didn’t they bench Watkins when Vick was playing?
they hate vick. They’re racist.
always with the questions
why didn’t they run with Vick like they do Foles?
(they run the exact same amount)
Why didn’t they call as many short passes with Vick like they do Foles?
(there are always the same amount of receivers on all 3 levels for both QBs)
Why didn’t they bench watkins?
(Ummm…because Scott is not that good either)
Always why why why wy when it comes to you know who.
Never a look at the player himself.
Enough with Vick already. Done. Gone. He’s a Jet now. He’ll be a free agent again in 2104.
Foles throws an INT and gets a sack fumble and they lose the game and you call his game good today? When things like this happened with Vick all we heard on here was get him outta here hes trash yada yada yada. Just be consistent guys.
one is a 10 year veteran with over 100 games, the other has played 20x less…I do not have the same expectations for the two of them.
you do though….which is stupid.
Dont see rg3, luck or wilson playing that card.
If what you say is true, then why is you are always comparing the two, or making statements that Foles is better, hell you can’t have it both ways.
That’s the point I believe vin has been trying to get across all along. One I tend to agree with.
Nope. Vinnies point has been well documented but changed. Ill review…
1. Vick keeps both teams in gamez.. this d is great and would have no problems winning games if vick wasnt in there.
2. The oline is fine… a pocket passer would make them better… look at justice as proof.
3. Foles would make this team win… they should bench vick because hes short and holds the ball too long and cant read a blitz.
4. Foles is a rook and in his first game looks as good as any hall of famers first game…. go look.
5. What do expect when 1 is a rook and the other a 10 year vet?
Well all along, as in the convo today. I don’t agree with the blatentt hatred he has for Vick. I think mike could be successful in a certain situation. Now this is not to be confused with What Vinnie believes. I don’t think that you can compare the two qbs based on what we have seen so far this year.
so i hit 4 of 5…that’s pretty good
Hello…. just a little truth for you all.
1. Reid is gone. No front office. No oline coach. No parking cars. Hes gone.
2. Foles is not better than vick. We have seen nothing to prove otherwise.
3. Vick is gone unless chip kelly is named head coach before the vick bonus deadline.
4. Im white. So… so much for race b.s.
5. I pray to god that foles is everything vinnie thought kolb would be.
6. Foles held onto the ball too long today.
7. I like that foles is tall.
8. It pisses me off to think about what could have been.
9. I want a d.c. as our head coach and i want Foles to be the guy. Time for a fresh start.
10. As always… i will back whoever is starter because i love this team.
P.s. i hate this fast but weak team. Its had to love and hate them at the same time but im good at it.
1 more week until we make a change. Boom.
Also…. ive been a way for a while. Good to see vinnie is right where i left him…. holding backup qb’s jocks.
“Foles is not better than vick. We have seen nothing to prove otherwise.”
because you haven;t been looking
better comp%
lower int %
lower sack rate
higher points per game
11 years younger
6 inches taller
40 lbs heavier
otherwise the same
backup?
LOL in Vinnie’s defense Stevo we were very hard on Foles tonight probably too hard.
Im all for foles.. just not going to call him a hof’er yet.
Every single Eagles website the same discussion is going on. The fan base is divided. Some say Foles is future HOF, better than Peyton Manning aand some say he is John Skelton its amazing. There is anger and hope everywhere not just here. But when I go to Indy, Seattle and Washingtons websites they are untied. There is no controversy.
I guess we can’t move on. The question is do you really want to start over with a 32 year quarterback that relies on his legs or a rookie that has some talent. It’s that simple.
I havenr read to many fans wanting Vick back. Most fans who arent sold on Foles just state in a QB driven league and how brights our future when your QB is 4th best in your own division and the other QBs. arent going anywhere anytime soon
You’re right. Pretty sad.
Blaine Gabbert > Foles (career 1-5) lol
Nah buddy I live in Jacksonville Blaine Gabbert equals bust with a capital B.
You got it dag
Dag-Vick is the 4th best QB in this division too. He played awful this year with the same team that Foles is playing so bad in (according to you). If he comes back now it will be about 16-17 mil against the cap. That is way too much money for an injury prone QB on the downside of his career. If you re-work his deal, then you will probably have to guarantee him more money. I don’t want to do that, do you?
And again no one has answered me on how it is ok to criticize Foles playing with a bad team but not Vick playing with a bad team.
Eaglesinoak- the holiday troll checks in.
1-5 that’s Foles and don’t come with Aikman’s first season record….Aikman was a number 1 pick with the pedigree to win game. He had all thw variables which means if a player is running wide open Alikman hits it….and when he was upright during the losing season he hit people running wide open.
Foles misses players running wide open…he’s a backup at best and if we’re looking to contend ..we need a coach who will use Vick’s strong arm and athletic ability properly. Give him an ultimatum. Slide or be released…..have him comeback at a reduced salary so these losers on here can stop already with the salary he’s slated for.
I heard the same things from the same guys concerning Asante’s salary. How did that work out?
You win with the better player!!!!!!!!!!!
Vick is a better player than Foles just as Asante was a better player than DRC.
You don’t downgrade the talent and expect a better production.
This team with Foles will be a 5 win team at best…If the defense gets the right players maybe 8 games…Foles is a good backup for a starting QB nothing more.
“Give him an ultimatum”
he’s had a decade of ultimatums
Daggolden….
“we have the 4th best qb in the division”
Of course we do. Right now.
RGIII was a #2 pick overall. He should be better than Foles. Right now.
But the other 2? Of course they are better…..right now. But it took 3-4 years before Eli was competent. Really. 4 years. He was (and still is sometimes) a walking turnover for season after season. He didn’t reach Foles completion % untill his FIFTH YEAR. Romo didn’t even see the field for 2.5 years…..when he did his interception rate was almost 3x what Foles is. and is just now…..slowly….after about 8 seasons beginning to lose his choker label. His not flattering nickname is “December Romo”
These guys were given a few chances to improve dontcha think?
And yet you are willing to throw Foles out because he missed a couple of wrs in his first coule of games???????
Yes he missed Maclin. Yes it was bad.
How did he respond to that?
Converted a 4th down……followed by putting a ball right on the numbers for a td.
That’s how you shold measure the kid
Last 4 games:
101 of 154 for 1200 yrds 6tds and 2 ints.
Romo and Eli would have dreamed of those numbers their first seasons
Is there any reason to believe that Vick is getting any better then what we saw this year? Is he any faster, is he reading defenses better, is he going to grow 4inches, has he been able to stay on the field and not get hurt? So maybe the offensive line and the weapons were not great this year. But when will they be good again after they hire a new coach? If the Eagles were close to being a contender for the playoffs then maybe Vick makes sense but they’re not. They are rebuilding with a new coach. The reason we need a younger quarterback is obvious, in 2 or 3 years Vick will be 35 or 36 and probably will be out of football.
Just logged in to wish every one Happy Holidays. Gotta admit the Foles/Vick debate is getting old. This team needs defense or it doesn’t matter who is QB But enjoy the holidays everyone.
P.S. Dagold, you gotta steer me to that website where people are calling Foles a HOF and mentioning his name with Peyton’s.
Because ANYONE doing that needs to have their tongues torn from their mouthes and dropped off at the nearest mental health facility. Laughing my ass off on that one.