You know Michael Vick’s ears perked up when he heard that Oregon head coach Chip Kelly was going to be the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. Kelly employs an offense, which emphasizes speed at every position and that includes speed at the quarterback position.
Kelly’s offense seems to be the kind of attack, which Vick would be an ideal candidate to run, but you have to wonder if he has taken too many hits on his body to be a legitimate candidate to do much more in his career.
I don’t think Kelly is going to be willing to play without a running quarterback. He’ll love the speed the Birds already have on the roster, namely DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy, and Bryce Brown.
Andy Reid and the Eagles would have Vick run a bootleg fake after he handed the football off because it would occupy somebody on the defensive side of the ball. Kelly believes in having speed including quarterback because it forces the defense to defend every player on the offensive side of the ball.
That puts Nick Foles’ future in Philadelphia in jeopardy. Foles does quite a few things well, but running isn’t one of them.
Kelly is going to like the Eagles offensive line after he gets the chance to see Jason Peters, Jason Kelce and Todd Herremans, if they all return healthy from injuries.
The subject of keeping Vick had to come up when they interviewed him, we’ll know the answer in that 3 day window they have to get rid of Vick once the SB is over.
I’m hoping Vick gets out of Philly before this new regime starts. Ideally, this offense will work well with an athletic type QB. Vick has worn out his usefulness with Philly and its fans. A breath of fresh air is needed, preferably Kansas City. I make no bones about my desire to see Andy Reid succeed!
Chip has to know some college kid Div I or Div II that may be available later in the draft. I cant believe another Kapernick cant be somewhere in college. If not I would kick Alex Smiths tires.
No.
I mean the internet has pretty much exploded with the “Mike Vick rebirth” stories.
This is lazy journalism not based in reality.
They’re premature and innacurate. They’re too simple. Based solely on the fact that Mike Vick can run fast.(even though that’s fading fast too)..and so they think that’s all Kelly wants.
Firstly, Kelly’s offense requires the QB to arrive at the line of scrimmage and make accurate reads based upon the D positioning. Mike Vick is terrible at this. This is the weakest part of Vick’s game.
Secondly, Kelly’s offense most often requires a very quick accurate throw. Does this sound like Vick. Of course not. This is the opposite of Vick.
SO…Qelly likes a fast QB, and Vick has that….but MORE IMPORTANTLY, Kelly wants an intelligent, decisionmaking, quick release, accurate thrower. Vick is not that…..at all.
Right now…of the 2 qbs on the roster…Nick Foles is the better option for Kelly…however, I do think that this new coach may very well open the door to a QB choice at #4. (a mistake I believe)
None of them QBs at Oregon look like rocket scientist and it seems to work well with them. I watched a freshman up thier run that offense just fine. How much reading a defense was he doing? None of them QBs over the years I would consider high IQ QBs. I personally would move on from Vick but lets not go overboard with what the QB does in Chips system.
Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if he keeps both and get a rewind to the McNabb/Vick “Wildcat” type solution.
Don’t have a problem with Vick coming back. He cannot come back at 15 million. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a guy like EJ Manuel drafted in a later round.
Dont want Vick. You cant tell me thier isnt a Kapernick somewhere in Div I or Div II that can come in here and compete.
If that was the case it would have been done dag, look at Arizona and the crap they had after Kolb got hurt.
The Answer is No,
Both Lurie and Roseman have already decided that Vick will no longer be part
pf the Eagles Future before they started their Coach Search and expecially when Vick’s Agent/Spokeperson publicly stated that he would not re-work his Current Deal to stay.. Vick is a goner as he should be..
Chip Kelly is a smart Coach, he is not going to install a “System” that is not going to work in the NFL, he realizes that NFL Defenses have speed,size all across the field and that a QB handling the Ball 15-20 Times a game in an Option-read run System swould get his QB’s killed at the Pro-Level..
Will he want a mobile QB to move around to extend plays, absolutely, what Coach doesn’t, but I don’t think we will see much of his “Oregon Run and Shoot” out of the gate, at least not initially, maybe more roll-outs, some reverses, screens, bubble routes,etc,etc, Should be fun and exciting to watch what develops ..
Vick isn’t staying. I’d put money on them drafting Geno. I’m not convinced Kelly is gonna hitch himself to the Foles wagon.
tsj, Unless Chips man-love for Foles, is a just BS, this is the route I think they are going to go too! I wouldn’t be surprised! It would be stupid, because Geno Smith AIN’T a #4, franchise QB! Nobody in this draft is!
The hiring of Kelly represents change. Massive change. This is not a quick fix situation. There is no oint in keeping Vick for another year. He will be purged along with other “old regime” types.
Kelly will be here to rebuild the whole thing…I think a 23 yr old Foles might be a part of such a rebuild, but I know a 33 yr old Vick will not be.
Agreed. No Vick, Jenkins, Cole, Asomugha, and even Ryans is on the bubble. Purge them all get draft picks, draft picks, draft picks.
I think they should Trade,Release,Purge of any Player on the Roster over the age 29/30 (outside of OT Jason Peters and maybe back-up QB T Edwards, LS Jon Donebros)
Players like Vick,Herremans,Bell,Dunlap,Jenkins,Cole,Ryans,Asmo snip,snip snip..
Your right, Vick isn’t staying. However, KC drafts #1 overall! Who knows what Reid has up his sleeve. The scouting combine will shed light some light which direction teams will go!
If KC resigns OT Brandon Albert, then I think they Trade down (Possibly with the Rams who want Joeckel) and get extra picks..
If KC does not re-sign Albert, then AR will Select OT Joeckel with the 1st PIck
We have a roster full of guys who didn’t do anything last year, but now we can trade them all to somebody else for draft picks? Stop it fellas just stop it.
ESPN reporting that Chip Kelly wants to keep Vick and is a major reason he decided to come to Philly.
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
FOR REAL?????
CAN YOU PROVIDE A LINK OR COPY & PASTE????
just lazy speculation
For your sake I hope it’s lazy speculation, who knows Vinnie he’s such a sharp innovative football mind maybe he thinks Vick was used the wrong way.
1 more year of vinnie crying sounds interesting to me.
not a fan
won’t happen though….Kelly uses math and statistics to influence his football decisions.
Einstein couldn’t come up with an equaton to convince him Vick is worthwhile.
while i would be fine with Vick gone….. you fail to be real here…. If Im Chip Kelly here is what i see…..
1. A team built to throw deep most of the time.
2. A team that never uses the run to help give time.
3. An Oline that was killed by injuries.
4. WR’s that NEED time to get open.
5. A coach who doesnt help his Oline or QB with the play calling.
Im not saying Vick stays… or that I want Vick to stay….. BUT…. to blame the last 2 years on the QB is silly.
I just said ESPN. I saw it on TV. What link do you want? LoL
ok i thought you meant espn.com
What’s everyone’s thought about Chip Kelly getting the Oregon Duck Mascot to replace WIlliam Penn on Top of the City Hall Building.. Any Animal Activists or History Buffs upset about this..
One of us have a better chance, of QBing the Birds next year! Ain’t happening!!!!
This team isn’t making a run for a SB right away, anyways, are clearly going young, & are rebuilding mode! It ain’t happening! No need to rehash the FAILED PAST! He’s gone! Vick is due to make $15M, guaranteed $3M, after February 6th, is going to be 34, is injury prone, & a failed QB! AGAIN, IT AIN’T HAPPENING!!!!
Birdo- never said on espn
Kelly never said it had to do with vick….bs
Vick will not be back,,especially for $16m
Eagles will look at Tyrod Taylor, Ravens as a possibility to compete with Foles
What about Josh Johnson,hes a free agent?
Stevo makes sense again. That’s been my stance from the beginning. M. Vick was never the biggest problem.
The problem was the Washburn hire that led to the disastrous Wide Nine and no D. Coordinator wanting to come which led to Castillo on D and Mudd on line.
Defense and O-Line has been the Eagles BIGGEST problems the last two years. QB play is low on that list whether it was Vick or Foles.
With that said I’d be surprised if they keep Vick for a number of reasons. But it’s not like we will have to speculate on this long – come Superbowl time he’s due 3mil if he’s still on the roster. I don’t see them paying that just to keep and “see” if they will use him.
tsj, he’s lying! Vick will not be back! ESPN, didn’t say Vick will be back, nor that Kelly liked him, they just brought it up as a possibility, due to his College OF. It will not relate to he NFL, nor is Vick an NFL successful starting QB anymore! All you Vick fans, need to face the reality.
But Vick staying would make me happy just to see Vinnie whining and crying for another year. lol. That would truly make my year.
Would not be funny! I’m sick & tired of the whole Vick mess. Tired, of the tired arguments, on both sides. I want whats best for the future, & the Vick experiment is over. It failed, & ain’t making a comeback!
DJax days of running 50 yards down field every play to clear out space for Maclin and Celek are over. Look for bubble screens and designing plays to get Maclin and DJax the ball in space and utilize thier speed.
Vick has proven that he can’t stay healthy in a conventional system…..how do you expect he would survive in Kelly’s ? Makes no sense, maybe 5 years ago, but at 33 years old, it would be a huge gamble by Kelly in his 1st season.
EXACTLY, NOT HAPPENING!!!!
Conventional sysyem is askkng rhe man to sit back in the pocket for 5 secs while the wr’s get deep? Get real. I dont want vick here either but… try and keep it real.
Chip Kelly will draft Geno smith to run his offense…Heloves speed, speed, and more speed!!!!!!!!!!!! Geno Smith to the Eagles!!!!!!!!!!
I think he meant cocaine not his 40 time. haaaaa
I think that this guy can win.
But it is going to take a few years for him to learn the NFL way.
Gus Bradley and Lovie Smith know how to win in the NFL.
Jimmy Johnson came from Miami University to Dallas Cowboys and when 1-15.
He was a National Championship coach from a great program. He eventually won the superbowl because Minnesota traded them all of their draft picks.
So he can win, but it is going to take time. I think the Eagles have enough former Pro Bowlers on that team to win the Superbowl, if the right coach(Gus Bradley) came in
and put his foot up those soft marshmellows.
Kelly will have to find out what type of players he can use in the NFL and get them. That will take at least 2 drafts.
Kelly has been so successful in the college game, that like Nick Saban, if things don’t go well the first couple of years he can just go back to college and will have a ton
of offers. Gus Bradley and Lovie Smith are NFL guys. They are not going anywhere until their contract is up, And even then, they might try to stay.
14 years of tiny players and sissy offense.
Just sad…
ROCKO, IDIOT, just become Geno Smith is black doesn’t mean he’s fast you stereotypical bastard. He runs a 4.7 40.
LOL
because*
And it’s closer to a 4.8 40. Not spectacular speed. Kevin Kolb type speed.
LOL funny shit
I’m half black, & my 40 time, in my prime, was 5.0. Does that mean my Italian & Cherokee blood, slowed me down?!? No, that just made me a lead @$$! What a bunch of racist bung-holes, on here
Chip Kelly: “No one is married to an offense or a defense. If we had a group of guys who could line up in the power I, and run the power I then we would do it. I think our players have total faith in us, that we wouldn’t ask them to do anything that wouldn’t help them win.”
The man has completely changed the style of offense he’s run at every stop based upon the personel. He ran power ball when he had a power RB, then he ran a spread when he had an immobile QB, then he ran the read-option when he had read-option QBs.
Now he has a pocket QB…he will mold the O around him.
He will of course, continue to implement other (mathematical based) wrinkles on O.
Extreme Hurry-up
No punting
No FG kicking except at end of halves and games.
Still not sure if its going to work consistently….but it should be fun to watch.
Birdo…fuck you and the pussy you came out of. I ain’t never said anything about color you fucktard, I said speed which is something that Foles doesn’t possess. Who said anything about his color you racist. It’s good to see you r real colors show you racist scum piece of inbred trailer trash piece of shit. You too Vinnie, it’s a shame that you even father children you pussy boy. Your women picked a low level piece of shit to father her kids…
Awwww….did your little feelings get hurt Rocko?
“Chip Kelly will draft Geno smith to run his offense…Heloves speed, speed, and more speed!!!!!!!!!!!!” Geno SMith Baby!!!!!!”
Really….is speed really why you love Geno so much?
Because he doesn’t have speed. He’s 0.1 secs faster in the 40 than Matt Barkley…don’t hear you clamoring for Barkley now….I wonder why?
Tyler Wilson runs the exact same 40 at Geno….why no “Tyler Wilson Baby!!” from you?
Mike Glennon is faster then Geno Smith….why no “Mike Glennon baby!!”
Rocko…the most transparent poster on here.
“Pussy boy”?????????
Love your reaction to my post also. I bring up how Kelly has moulded his offenses around his players, and you respond with some drivel about being a pussy boy.
“Pussy boy?”
really?
“Pussy boy”
What is the grade 7 playground like this time of year? You must hang out there a lot….where the fuck else would you get “pussy boy”
Rocko the Socko — you said he was going to draft Geno because he loves Speed SPEED SPEED!
Thats the dumbest statement I have ever heard. Either you think Geno Smith is fast because he’s black or you just don’t know a damn thing about college football. If that’s the case, STFU.
Geno Smith blows…the only players he played well against are guys that couldn’t even make the Philadelphia Soul once their college days are over…I mean seriously look at some of those teams. He was nothing special when playing against quality competition.
I think Chip will roll with Foles or maybe a free agent for this year. Most likely Foles. IF he fails to show up next year then you got Teddy Bridgewater or Johnny Football who would be perfect for Chips offense. SO yea why waste a high pick on Geno Smith when you got those 2 guys coming out soon…you reach on Geno you are saying goodbye to Bridewater or Manziel..yea don’t think so…
Fact is Reid fucked this team up big time. This will take time. No one is expecting the Eagles to win shit next year after they were lucky enough to win just 4 games…build the defense back, especially the secondary…maybe Foles shows up if not you got 2 guys worthy of a top 5 pick next time around who have everything Chip would like in a QB.
Birdo…I feel sorry for your Mother.
Eagles will probably have the highest scoring offense in the league in 3 years. Whats there to complain about? Lets see who the D Coordinator is first shall we?
Pheags, I see your point, Manziel would be ideal. I’m just glad we got a new coach with a new philosophy that’s all, and I’m ready to win now you know.
**Jon Bret The Hitman Hart’s Breaking News**
I spoke too soon Chip looking to recruit Todd Grantham as his Defensive Coordinator. WTF does that make you haters happy? would Jarvus Jones make you happy?
Can anyone give me some insight on UGA DC Todd grantham? Word is Jarvis Jones may actually the best player in the draft.
I reported Todd Grantham, not needle dick, Lil Bron-Bron Jon! ROTFLMFBO!!!
Spent most his years as a D-line Coach in the NFL. Colts, Cowboys. Runs a 3-4. Known to like playmakers in defense. Believes turnovers is how you win. He would most-likely draft Jarvis Jones at #4
“Will Chip Kelly Want Michael Vick To Run His Offense?”
How did I guess that G.Cobb wrote this even before looking at the author?
The answer is no.
Georgia’s defense was crap before Grantham. Jarvis Jones has to be a lock at #4 if thats the guy he hires. Bacarri Rambo may also be his selection in the 2nd-3rd round. Pretty much 60% of the starters on defense last year will probably be replaced if Grantham is the guy.
The bigger issue is how the other innovations Kelly will bring to the team:
Extreme hurry-up
Going for it on 4th down a lot more than we’ve ever seen (in the NFL anyway)
No Kicking FGs unless its the end of a half or game
Will translate to the NFL.
I promise you chip Kelly will be exposed as a fraud in the nfl, he has zero, zero, nfl experience at any level, he was exposed by a tough defense employed at the college level by Stanford, guysvlikevgus Bradley, Vick fangio will figure his gimmicks out
Let me enlighten you fools, there’s a reason they call him a franchise quarterback, because he’s the most important player on the field , his job is to make decisions, lead, much like a general, but not get into the fray, he distributes, passes the ball to playmakers, the running backs, wideouts, who take the punishment, get injured and are replaced every 2-5years, but the general remains, look at rg3, he’s already suffered one, maybe two career ending injuries by being employed in a foolish system that exposed the most important player to repeated devastating hits.
This is what you will get with a running quarterback, as ken stabler recently said, “I have seen plenty of good young running quarterbacks but no older ones”
Jake you a Harbaugh guy? Well Chip Kelly beat him. Pete Carroll beat him. You like Jon Gruden? Well Gruden and Chip Kelly worked together offensively Yes the great Jon Gruden. Im sure you already know about Bill Belichick picking Chips mind for his offense right? GTFO.
Oregons qbs ran the ball like 6 times a game last year on average I believe.
I like how everyone brings up the Stanford game. Dude the guys record is 46-7!!!! I guess he should be 53-0 right? and even if he was 53-0 you would still find something to bitch about because your guy Gus Bradley wasn’t hired. a simple youtube video has you convinced Gus Bradley is the right coach. in 2009 Bradley’s defnse ranked 24th in 2010 they ranked 27th. They were calling for his head in Seattle for 2 years. Do you think if Gus Bradley was the head coach in Oregon he would have a better record than 46-7?
ES….you need to change your name….you are sounding like a birds fan.
He aint Andy Reid and thats enough for me for at least a few years. No to Vick. Look at what the patriots did with adding some concepts to a hury up game and protect Brady. I think New England is the Offense we will be most like as it makes the most sense for the pro game. Kelly knows what foles can and cant do from his time in college and the one thing every coach can work with is a smart coachable guy.
Foles may be gone in a year or two if he does not pan out but I really think he gets all of (or most of) next year to prove himself.
Steve Spurrier
Nick Saban
…Ok I’m trying to keep an open mind, but some of the excitement about this guy reminds me of the electricity in the air when the announcement was made the Nnamdi Asomugha had been acquired by the Eagles. I really hope the Eagles hire Lovie Smith to be the DC.
Butch, my choice too, but but WIP & Adam Scheffter reported, that Todd Grantham Georgia DC, as our DC. Sorry bruh! But if he can bring Jarvis Jones & John Jenkins with him, I’m ALL IN!
Good instincts butch, that is exactly the reaction by some here, this is howie’s way of once again trying to make a name for himself like he did with the free agent signings following the lock out, everyone giddy with excitement, but it was a flawed plan, see a pattern here?, he went for the popular choice and threw aside long range, astute planning, this will blow up in the eagles face by year two of this stupid hiring
A couple of names that I will throw out for DC
LB Coach Kevin Greene of the Packers, former LB of the Steelers/Panthers
Who has worked the 3-4 with Capers the last few years
Rob Ryan formerly of the Cowboys who ran a 3-4 there
Ken Norton from the Seahawks who coached their LB’s under Bradley
Tedi Brusci would be an outside the box Candidate who played and learned the 3-4 under Belecheck
Eric Nangini another 3-4 Coach with a good track record
Anyone think Terelle Pryor would fit Chip’s system?
Pryor has some of the worse accuracy I ever saw. Who knows. If he can improve throwing then I would imagine Oakland would keep him.
I am ambivlent. Unsure.
There are some things I love about Kelly…some things I am very concerned about. And I think that’s how this one goes…its a boom or bust pick.
Vinnie, you have good insight, but considering who made thus decision to hire Kelly it is bust
VIck and Foles will both be here
Im calling Carolina and just asking the question? Is thier a price for Cam? Is he untouchable or does everyone have a price?
Not a chance in hell dag.
Dude I wish. Now that would be awesome…Cam Newton in a Chip Kelly offense.
Come on guys we all know who the running threat big name splash at QB is. It’s TIME fore TEBOW TIME. Yup you heard it here first. The eagles will trade Vick to the Jets for Tebow and the sanchize. Then the birds use Tebow to power their way to a 2 and 14 season and Watch as Foles (who would become nothing if he stays here) mature into the next Brady and win 6 Superbowls in a row for the jets.
Well All that BS makes as much sense as most of what I have read on here for a Year.
That was Vick and Foles to the jets and NO please No !