• March 29, 2024

Eagles Could Look To Improve Their Tight End Situation Via Free Agency

The Eagles aren’t going to be doing anything major on the free agent market this offseason, but I could see them making a subtle move at the tight end position. They can’t be thrilled about the production they got from their tight ends in 2012.

Eagles starting tight end Brent Celek had an off year in 2012 by dropping the football far too often.  He’s never been a great blocker, but he was always thought of as a reliable pass receiver, but you could say that about him in 2012.

Celek caught 57 passes for 684 yards and one touchdown a year ago, and his backup Clay Harbor caught 25 passes for 186 yards and two touchdowns.

The Eagles aren’t awful at tight end, but they could add some size and speed to the unit and it wouldn’t cost them a bundle of money to do it.  There are a couple of tight ends, who they could decide to target.

I’m sure Eagles new Player Personnel Director Tom Gamble has told the Eagles about 49ers backup tight end Delanie Walker.  He’s a great athlete with outstanding speed for his size, who has the ability to block and can beat linebackers and safeties on pass routes.  Walker has played in the shadow of Niners All Pro tight end Vernon Davis.

Martellus Bennett who played the first four years of his career for the Dallas Cowboys before being signed by the New York Giants, would be a good target for the Birds.  He had the best year of his career a year ago with 55 catches and five touchdowns.  He is a better blocker than any tight end the Birds have on their roster.

Getting better run blocking from the Eagles tight ends could move the Birds to sign a tight end in free agency.

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eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 4, 2013 12:22 pm

“The Eagles aren’t going to be doing anything major on the free agent market this offseason,”
What? Why?
Then
Boo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just practicing for the home games then

Pipolo87
Pipolo87
March 4, 2013 1:11 pm

Because if they do an they dont pick up the big time players some fans will bicker and complain oh why didnt they draft a player or trade why they had to go after all these players. it is those whiners that make being a philadelphia eagles fan look bad i can’t stand those fans. Now let me make it clear i do get upset when they dont win i want them to be the best year in and year out but hey if FA isn’t the route to go then don’t go it at the end it isn’t what we say its what the FO says.

greenfan
greenfan
March 4, 2013 1:58 pm

Would you rather they made a big “splash” in FA….have everyone say that they “won the off-season”….have another “Dream-Team” assembled …OR have a low-key FA period….sign players who will fit Kelly’s system but may not be “stars” or flashy names to improve key positions…have a plan in the draft to provide similar types of players ….and actually start to build a franchise that can win on a consistant basis?

I want to see what Tom Gamble can do….Howie has given the team a strong position with respect to the cap…let the veteran palyer personnel man go and start building a team…..I don’t care about “high profile” FA’s…give me players who will contribute to the TEAM winning.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 4, 2013 2:25 pm
Reply to  greenfan

the Eagles spent big in FA/ Offseason twice under Lurie –
once went to the Super Bowl(2004- and came 3pts away from winning it ) and once went 8-8(2011)
every other year they went the cheap route and I’ll take the going to the Super Bowl formula instead of the Lurie usual Cheap route

greenfan
greenfan
March 5, 2013 9:19 am

And what exactly is this “going to the SuperBowl formula”???

Are you saying you want them to spend like Snyder and the Redskins for “big name” free agents is the way to build a successful …read: SuperBowl Championship team?

DMAN
DMAN
March 4, 2013 2:09 pm

I would like to see then possibly pursue CB Darrell Revis if it doesn’t cost them too much in return. Get rid of DRC and Asmo and start fresh. Then pursue a DT in free agency and maybe some O line help. Tight end would be nice too, but that can be addressed in the draft. Youth is what i want. And that’s the direction the Eagles are going in

btc24
btc24
March 4, 2013 2:48 pm
Reply to  DMAN

You want to make the biggest possible splash we can for a guy who is going to command a king’s ransom, coming off ACL surgery, and turning 28?

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 4, 2013 2:19 pm

I think walker would be a good move

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 4, 2013 2:35 pm

If they don’t sign Walker (another short guy), then I’m still holding to my call that the Eagles take Eifert with their 2nd round pick (if he’s still there – and he might be).

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 4, 2013 3:24 pm

hahahaha!!!

DCar
DCar
March 4, 2013 4:31 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

gm, Dwayne Bowe resigned with KC! Told ya! I’m sending you a shirt now & you have to join the “I worship everything DCar says” club! LOL! You where right about them, being able to franchise him again, if they wanted! It would just have been a higher tender. So it’s a tie, damn it! XD

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 8:23 am
Reply to  DCar

I never wanted Dwayne Bowe. What are you talking about DCar? But it’s always good that you recognize, when your inaccurate. Should I send you a shirt?

DCar
DCar
March 5, 2013 11:07 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Those where comments from the franchise tag debate we had, & how I said it didn’t matter, because they were renegotiating anyways. No thanks on the shirt! BWAHAHAHA!!!!

DMAN
DMAN
March 4, 2013 3:19 pm

I’m not worried about the ACL injury. And i said only if we can get him for a decent price. The guy is by far the best in the business and is leaps and bounds better than DRC and Asmo. The Eagles are known for making bold moves if its someone they think will help the team

DMAN
DMAN
March 4, 2013 3:21 pm

The secondary needs a serious overhaul. Start with Revis and build around him.

jphalines
jphalines
March 4, 2013 4:25 pm

I could also see the Eagles take a TE, but Ertz from Stanford in the second. Kelly has seen him for the last few years. His production didn’t drop off after Luck left, the kid is a real player from the 4-5 times I’ve watched him play. I’de have no problem with Cook as a free agent pick up either. I think they need to improve the TE position if they arn’t going to get a big WR.

Another Draft note; I think it’s between Floyd and Jordan with the 4th pick. They are both absolute freak athletes that I think will be Pro bowlers. I’de rather Jordan, he may be unblockable in a few years with a 34 defense. Kelly knows him better than anyone else in the NFL.

jphalines
jphalines
March 4, 2013 4:31 pm

Try to run screen over the 6’7″ Jordan who grew up a TE. He runs almost as fast as the RB’s. Pick 6 the other way. Let’s have him play some TE in the red zone and really have some fun.

Pipolo87
Pipolo87
March 4, 2013 4:50 pm

I rather have Jared Cook in FA.

PETE60
PETE60
March 4, 2013 5:32 pm

Time will tell.

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 4, 2013 6:28 pm

Hey any update on stars condition

concrete_marley
concrete_marley
March 4, 2013 6:57 pm

It would be so funny to see Revis getting roasted on this site if he can here and had a subpar season. A lot of cats on here would be ready to kill him if he gave up even one touchdown- considering what he will cost. Be careful what you wish for.

jakedog
jakedog
March 4, 2013 7:21 pm

No eifert, another golden boy overrated player, I would stay away from most notre dame players, concentrate on the sec, the minor leagues of the nfl

DCar
DCar
March 5, 2013 12:46 am
Reply to  jakedog

jake, exactly! All Notre Dame players are over-hyped, & hardly ever work out! No thanks!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 5, 2013 8:12 am
Reply to  jakedog

Eifert replaced Kyle Rudolf from Notre Dame who just scored 9 TD in his second NFL season and was a NFC pro bowl player and the pro bowl MVP.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 8:30 am

By default. He wasn’t originally voted in. Tony Gonzales, and Jason Witten, were the voted in. Rudolph replaced Gonzales due to injury.

He had a good season, but I wouldn’t count on him being consistent throughout his career. To me he’s just adequate.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 5, 2013 8:33 am
Reply to  gmcliff

he was the #1 rated TE in high school, 3 year starter at ND, All American first team junior year, first TE drafted in 2011 as a junior, All rookie first team, pro bowl player 2nd year — he has always been the best

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 10:12 am

means nothing in the pros

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 5, 2013 11:01 am
Reply to  gmcliff

GM – do you not like Touchdowns?
Rudolf had the second most TD for TE in the NFL and
Trent Richardson had the fifth most TD for RB’s
these are two of the best young players in the game at scoring TDs and future All Pros

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 1:59 pm

yawning!!!!!

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 3:20 pm

As far as Trent Richardson goes, I don’t find a bunch of 1-2 yard Touchdown runs impressive, and I don’t think that makes you, an all pro either……..

I saw Bryce Brown, make some very impressive long yardage, runs, and touchdowns that were more impressive than any runs by Richardson, and I think he is more impressive.

Yeah, YEAH YEAH, his fumbles, but the talent, and potential is obvious. Richardson will get no better…..average

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2013 10:16 am

Kyle Rudolph is a very promising up and comign TE and has had an excellent start to his Career.. Some observors state that he’s a little like a Jason Whitten type, that he doesn’t “wow you” with his athleticism, but all he does is run good routes, gets open and catches the ball and make plays for the his Team.. you have to remember he has put up good Stats in his 1st 2 Seasons with
QB Cristian Ponder playing QB.. I believe Rudolph is a definite Pro-Bowler Candidate

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 5, 2013 12:55 pm
Reply to  paulman

And Tyler Eifert is going to be better paulman. You are correct if he had Brady throwing to him instead of Ponder he would be all pro every year.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 10, 2013 3:25 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I doubt it…..

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 4, 2013 7:23 pm

You do not “build around” a 28 Y/O player. Revis was/is a great player however injury concern- check, high cap number – check, will make the team a winner in the next 12 months – NOPE not by himself. If this were a 2004 situation and he was the TO type piece that puts you over the hump then Yes. This is a young team and in football 28 is middle aged.

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2013 10:42 am
Reply to  RegalEagle

I agree 100%, forget the Big-name, Expensive older Players that have probably already peaked, probably been injured.. I would rather the Eagles sign some quality back-up/rotataional players from very Good Teams and give them get a chance to become Starters on the Eagles..
Players like TE Delanie Walker, LB Larry Grant of the 49ers, LB Paul Kruger from Ravens, etc,etc.. Stay away from Short-Term,Expensive Players..

jakedog
jakedog
March 4, 2013 7:27 pm

The eagles need to go warmack , best guard since John Hannah, best athlete at his position I called it before and am calling it now, the eagles oline coach will heavily influence this pick

The eagles pick chance warmack with the fourth pick, bank on it see you in April

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 8:43 am
Reply to  jakedog

Your t- shirts ready Jake…LOL!!! …..I have it in Superstud Size..haha!!

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 4, 2013 7:28 pm

I think cook was franchised. My question to you guys about D. Walker is what would it say about a player who leaves a team on the brink (49’ers) to go to a team rebuilding (eagles). I know it’s a business but I would think truly wanting to win a championship would would be a trait I want in future eagles vs winning in my their paycheck (namdi).

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 8:40 am
Reply to  RegalEagle

Jared Cook was not franchised. He isn’t worthy of being labeled a franchise player(at this time). He has talent but, it hasn’t shown in his play. I know some blame his QB, and that is a valid point, but he was in the league before his QB currently was established. Kerry Collins was his QB for 2 years, before Locker, and Hasselbeck, and he has had the same production throughout his career thus far.

I have given him some thought, and I think he would be a nice addition to the Eagles, but our expectations have to be tempered, because he needs to find some heart, improve his blocking, and just work to max his potential.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 5, 2013 8:52 am
Reply to  gmcliff

last year there was a lot of buzz about a DL from the Titans JasonJones here on GCobb — who is available right now
someone loves to watch Titan games on this comment section

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 4, 2013 7:31 pm

Middle of the road F/A that come in to compete can help make you better. Guys who have big payday’s and know they have a spot on the roster net you a season like last year watching guys get run out of other teams stadiums.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 4, 2013 7:32 pm

No one on this team should feel like they have a job until they are on the roster in January next year.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 4, 2013 7:46 pm

My bad cook is a FA not tagged. He would be a nice addition but I would not back up the truck for him. I wanted the birds to draft him a few years ago.

paulman
paulman
March 4, 2013 9:31 pm

I liked and still TE Jared Cook, but he will be pricy
A nice under the radar Tae out there is Paul Casey from the Texans who can do a little bit of everything and would be relatively inexpensive
He’s been 2nd String for Texans behind #1 Owen Daniel
But is younger, quicker and very versatile from playing FB, H-Vack and getting out in the Passing Game..

paulman
paulman
March 4, 2013 10:59 pm

Chiefs place Franchise Tag of OT Beandon Albert which orovably jeans they soliloquy not Drsft Joeckel or Fisher with the # 1 Pick and will instead probably go DT (Shariff Floyd or even at CB Milliner) to shore up their Defense

paulman
paulman
March 4, 2013 11:05 pm

Chiefs also Signed WR Derrick Bowe to a 5 Year Deal..
And All Pro Punter K Colquitt. KC is having a kick-ass Off-Season
Getting Coach AR. DC Scott, Special Teams Coaches from the Bears
And also GM Dorsey from the Packers..

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 7:12 pm
Reply to  paulman

You mean GMCliff Dorsey?

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2013 8:35 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

The new GM for Chiefs that’s from the Packers, isn’t his name Dorsey??

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 9:31 pm
Reply to  paulman

Yeah, so is mine

Stevo
Stevo
March 4, 2013 11:48 pm

I would love cook… they need a big body and frankly… what has b.c. done these last 2 years. Let the two push eachother.

G… i dont know why u say they wont make a splash. They have to spend their money and it looks like they will have 30 million. Who the heck will they sign from their own team with 30 million?

They have needs everywhere. Expect 2 or 3 new starters.

NuGreembol
NuGreembol
March 5, 2013 12:42 am

I like Walker as a second tight end. he is physicall fast and competitive. He is not the best pass catcher but he is great after the catch. He would be the perfect compliment to Celek’s slow sure handed pro wrestler style. our offense is fine if we add Walker and another bigger target. i like the ND TE bc he can fit a dual role TE/WR Jimmy Grahm esc he may be too pricey in the draft.
1st rd trade down and get Wolmack or Jordan i think they both will be there around the 8th pick. Ship Trent Cole out of town please! he alays was an overachiever and never played at a high level for 16+ games what makes them think that will change now that he is older and in a new system. Solid pro but move on! Graham can play his role in the 4-3 under and draft Jordan to fly around. LB’s of Jordan, Grahm, kendricks, and Ryans.

Frank22
Frank22
March 5, 2013 7:24 am

Jared cook.. He plays the slot, lines up all over. I really think the eagles make a run at him. We still really have not been able to see what the guy can do, he’s been in Tennessee with shity qb after shitty qb.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 5, 2013 8:14 am

G might have the best solution in Bennett — a solid affordable pro who excelled in the Red Zone last year, an Eagle weakness

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 5, 2013 8:29 am

Jared Cook? OK look, I understand the Titans QB situation was only marginally better than the Eagles’ over the past 3 years, but Jared Cook is one of these guys who continually never lives up to his “potential”.

What are these? 6, 30, 37, 9, 29, 49, 44

Those are his total catches through college and the pros

What are these? 1, 3, 3, 0, 1, 3, 4

Those are his total touchdowns through college and the pros.

Jared Cook is “meh”. We already have this guy on the roster. His name is Celek.

The TE position is now a centrepiece in the NFL. Kelly’s offence, if predicated on what he says (getting the ball out at 1.5 seconds), is going to have to feature a game changer at that position. Cook is not that.

Eifert might be (and I think is). BTW – ND, while it is overhyped, has a good track record on producing TEs.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 5, 2013 8:41 am

they only have 3 in the NFL and 2 of them are on the same team, Minnesota ( Rudolf and Carlson) Fasiano with the Dolphins is the 3rd

DCar
DCar
March 5, 2013 11:14 am

Future HOFers! WOOO HOOO! Notre Dame, is overrated, over-hyped, & over-exposed! No thanks, I’ll pass!

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2013 11:09 am

Eagles sign WR Randy Moss, OT Jake Long, TE JeMarcus Finley,
CB Dunta Robinson, Safety Laron Landry and spend all their Cap $$$ and
still Finish 3-13 for the 2013 Season,,

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 1:58 pm
Reply to  paulman

they would….

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 5, 2013 8:53 pm

Cleveland Browns hire Ray Farmer as Assistant General Manager, name Mike Lombardi General Manager:

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2013 8:56 pm

Rumors out that Buffalo Bills are interested in Tradind down with the Eagles
To QB Geno Smith (Bills are likely to cut the chord with Fitzpatrick per NFZl
network) and the Bills want move down to get ahead of the Cardinals who may may want to select QB Smith also..
Eagles can slide back 4-5 Spots and pick up the Bills 2nd Rounder
And maybe another pick in 2013 or 2014 Draft..
Lots of moving parts as usual

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 5, 2013 9:34 pm
Reply to  paulman

You mean the Eagles would trade down with the Bills, from #4 to #8 ?

Don’t like it………..

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 4:24 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Why not GM? That’s what we want, more picks, & we can still get a good player at 8! We ain’t getting both the Rams picks, so you can forget about that! We would have to get more than just their 2nd though. If we got #8, their 2nd (#41) & 4th (102), I’ll take it! That would give us, practically 6 top 100 players. Not to mention, we still have trade assets in Maclin, Cole, Mathis, & 1 of our QB’s (which I still believe will be traded).

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 4:40 am
Reply to  DCar

Ziggy Ansah at 8? HMMMM!

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 7:18 am
Reply to  DCar

Thats who I want DCar, but I’m thinking 8 maybe out of reach of him, and I want another #1 – so that we can grab Dion Jordan as well later in the 1st…..

The Rams trade would actually warrant more picks, in the 2nd, and 3rd, because they are moving up so far.

I would only take that deal with Buffalo if I was guaranteed, I had a shot at Ansah, and I could make a mega deal with the Rams, and trade down from there to accumulate even more picks.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 7:20 am
Reply to  gmcliff

and there is no confirmation that Paulmans trade alert is accurate.

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 9:50 am
Reply to  gmcliff

You think Ansah can be a stud at ROLB, I do, but many pundits are saying 4-3 DE? I don’t like Jordan even a little bit! Got project/bust, written ALL over him! He’s too skinny & is all ready, going under the knife! No way, at #4, & no way in the 1st, unless we get multiple 1sts & he’s still there! We don’t have the luxury, of wasting ANY, of our top picks on projects & ???? Our top 4 rounds, need to be studs-starters-contributers. You know that Mr. Dorsey. Regardless, we agree, mostly all our targets, & hopefully this is a fun, productive, positive FA period & draft, because thus far, I’m underwhelmed, unimpressed & disappointed…… B(

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 12:08 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I think Ansah is going to be a star. I know you don’t like Jordan, but I would take a chance on him, or Jamie Collins to play the OLB….

Yes, you are correct Mr. Dorsey knows we need impact in the first 4 rounds.

paulman
paulman
March 7, 2013 9:23 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Isn’t my word any good anymore Cliff..

jott1972
jott1972
March 5, 2013 10:06 pm

Paulman- moving from 4 to 8 is a difference of 300 trade value points which is a 3rd and 4th round picks not. 2nd which is 500 pts

I can see the Eagles moving back to get picks and draft Dion Jordan at #8

joelamar20
joelamar20
March 5, 2013 11:26 pm
Reply to  jott1972

that would be a great move if they could land him at 8! Nobody would blame them if they drafted Dion Jordan at 4 so to add extra picks would be gravy

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 4:27 am
Reply to  jott1972

jott, you are correct, but teams that get desperate, every year, tend to not follow those dumb @$$ trade value garbage! Happens every draft & teams hardly ever follow it to a T.

Frank22
Frank22
March 6, 2013 10:43 am
Reply to  jott1972

I dont know if dion Jordan makes is past clevland at 7.

joelamar20
joelamar20
March 5, 2013 11:24 pm

anybody like Martellus Bennett as a free agent signing? they need some red zone size badly! no secret why they have sucked in the red zone for so long! easiest touchdown of Mike Vick’s Eagls career was jump ball pass to Riley Cooper get Vick or who ever is the QB this year some size at receiver

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 7:19 am
Reply to  joelamar20

no

joelamar20
joelamar20
March 6, 2013 7:25 am
Reply to  gmcliff

why?

Frank22
Frank22
March 6, 2013 10:42 am
Reply to  joelamar20

Joe, I do only if we exhaust a few of the other options. Jared Cook and Delanie Walker specifically.

joelamar20
joelamar20
March 6, 2013 1:50 pm
Reply to  Frank22

Yeah Jared Cook could be a beast if used properly. I like Delanie Walker in addition to adding Cook or Bennett. Feel like Bennett is more of a true tight end than Cook though. Better blocker. Delanie you add just because he does a little of everything well.

Frank22
Frank22
March 6, 2013 2:37 pm
Reply to  joelamar20

But your adding to the all around TE in celek. Cool is a guy who can stretch the field, something Celek can not do.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 3:06 pm
Reply to  joelamar20

Whats so good about him? When has he ever shown himself to be more than what he is……an average – below average talent…..don’t like him

Frank22
Frank22
March 7, 2013 11:11 am
Reply to  gmcliff

there is not a chance that Bennet is a below average talent. HE might not have it all up top, but he does not lack the talent. Could be a good compliment to Celek. I would rather the eagles look at Walker and Cook fist. Thats if htey go TO in FA.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 10, 2013 3:28 pm
Reply to  Frank22

disagree on Bennett

paulman
paulman
March 6, 2013 7:19 am

New Coaching Staff and whole new group in Buffalo,
They need a Feanchise QB or at least the potential to get one
And if they think that ageno Smith is that Player, they will need to move down to #4 to get him before the Cardinals do.. Even if they hVe to give up their
2nd Round Pick to do so which is the #40th Selection
Eagles could by spring bamck 4 Spots could end up with
#8, 36 & 40 which could be 3 Hogh Quality Prosoects
(Maybe the Eagles could thrown in a Nate Allen since Bills cut George Wilson and will be looking for a Safety or WR Jason Avant who probably does not fit Kelly’s Scheme too well with his lack of Speed)
I would do this Deal in a heartbeat for Bills need a QB to rebuild their fan excitement and give them hope for the future and Eagles & Bills have a history of Trades (Jason Peters deal a few years back)

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 7:36 am
Reply to  paulman

I HAVE heard that the Jets, may also be interested in Geno Smith, and the Eagles are a possible trade partner, but they also wouldn’t mind taking on Trent Coles contract, If the Eagles, would consider taking on the contract of Darelle Revis as well, which would also warrant, a 2nd, 4th, and future #1.

Who would do that deal?

That would open the door to trade Maclin, Evan Mathis, Todd Herremans, Brandon Graham, possibly Bryce Brown, and 3 future #1’s, dangling to the Rams, for their two 1st Rounders.

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 10:04 am
Reply to  gmcliff

gm, if we can get Revis, their 1, 2, & 4, for #4 & Cole, I’ll volunteer to drive Cole there & pick up Revis, then I’ll come on here & publicly call Weaselman, GM of the year! Include Maclin too, & get their 3rd. Ain’t happening! LOL!

Frank22
Frank22
March 6, 2013 11:17 am
Reply to  gmcliff

That ain’t happening. Good thought tho.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 6, 2013 8:24 am
Reply to  paulman

poor Bills

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 6, 2013 8:56 am

I believe it — Cards, Bills, Jets or other will make a move for Geno Smith in the top 10. The Chiefs and Raiders missing 2nd round picks they seem most likely
willing to move down to reacquire a 2nd round pick

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 6, 2013 9:49 am

Cards, Bills, Jets all interested in Geno Smith tells you all you need to know about Geno Smith.

I feel sorry for Bills fan, I really do….and on top of a perennially crappy team they play in a giant cement hole they have as a stadium, and then run off to another abomination of a stadium for another “home” game in Toronto. Add in lake effect snow and the never-been Sabres, and geez…..poor Buffalo..

jakedog
jakedog
March 6, 2013 10:13 am

Dcar, if you were willing to drive to clunk mhenski could you please drive Nnamdi back to Oakland. Thanks

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 10:30 am
Reply to  jakedog

***jake, you got your wish, WIP just reported ASSomugha, to be released today*** HALLELUJAH!!!!! ***Also Ravens FA ILB Dannell Ellerbe tweeted, he’s coming to visit the Birds this week*** AWESOME NEWS DAY!!!!!!!!

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 10:34 am
Reply to  DCar

Not good news for Kendricks, or Ryans!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 6, 2013 10:38 am
Reply to  DCar

good stuff DCar keep it coming
(Bell, DRC, Jenkins, Patterson, Nmandi) 47 more to go!

paulman
paulman
March 6, 2013 10:45 am
Reply to  DCar

Eagles Moving to a 3-4 DCAR
Ellerbe and Ryans will play ILB, Kendricks slides to OLB which is where he belongs..

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 10:51 am
Reply to  paulman

Would be nice, then get a proper ROLB, & we have the makings of a great 3-4 LBing corps! But, as of now, the Dannell Ellerbe tweet, was misconstrued, by Dumb@$$ Ike Reese. He’s at NFL Films!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 6, 2013 10:50 am
Reply to  DCar

by Lurie giving Reid another year – the draft, trades, & free agency is looking worse and worse Kendricks, Curry, Foles, Democo Ryans trade,Asante trade, Mathis-Cole- Herremanns extensions were all bad decisions in hindsight for this new regime

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 10:59 am

e0, are you surprised? Most of us have been harping on the ineptness, & stupidity of the front office, for years now? LOL! Kendricks & Curry are going to be fine, & Cox will be even better as a 3-4 DE.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 6, 2013 11:05 am
Reply to  DCar

birds invested alot of good high picks on DLine the last 3 years and the overall group is a F grade and the secondary picks the last 3 years are worse as a group a F-minus

Frank22
Frank22
March 6, 2013 10:39 am

Great news on both fronts. I wonder how Baltimore could let Ellerbe and Kruger walk? Did That Flacco deal bind then up that bad financially?

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 10:47 am
Reply to  Frank22

The Dannell Ellerbe tweet, was misconstrued, by Dumb@$$ Ike Reese! He’s at NFL Films! I knew he couldn’t meet with teams, until after the 10th! F^#@ING Ike Reese is an idiot, he got me all excited for nothing!

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 12:05 pm
Reply to  DCar

haahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 10:53 am

Now Jeff McClain tweeted that Eskins tweet is wrong, & ASSomugha, ain’t getting released today! WTF!!!!!!! I have a migraine now!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 6, 2013 11:02 am
Reply to  DCar

mhenski you might be right DCar wants or is jerking us off –
LOL

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 11:23 am

e0, watch it! Don’t feed into that @$$MINER! I just reported what the dingleberries in WIP reported! I HATE THEM! LOL!! Baldy said, he’s at NFL Films this week, working on SB & FA stuff. He can’t make contact with teams *WINK,WINK,NOD* until after the 10th.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 6, 2013 11:25 am
Reply to  DCar

withdrawn

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 11:29 am

I know you’re joking, no problem! XD

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 11:59 am
Reply to  DCar

hahahhaaha!!!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 6, 2013 11:25 am

IWhy all that excited over Dannell Ellerbe.

Why you guys get your panties all in a twist over mediocre producers like jared Cook, and Ellerbe is beyond me. (though it does explaing the irrational love for one former superstar)

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 6, 2013 11:30 am

he reminds me of AL Harris pre Green Bay — one stupid personal foul penalty a game –
they need wholesale changes and anything new is exciting on that Eagle D

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 11:34 am

Vin, Ellerbe is a good, young, up & coming ILB, that fits what we want to do, & fits the scheme. Do you feel 100% comfortable, with Kendricks & Ryans in the middle, with all their???? Get Ellerbe, move Kendricks to LOLB & get a proper ROLB, & trade Graham & Cole. Ryans is a stopgap, for this year.

DCar
DCar
March 6, 2013 11:37 am
Reply to  DCar

We need good, young, upcoming FA’s, with high ceilings, no more big name, mercenaries, that are dogs collecting a paycheck.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 12:04 pm
Reply to  DCar

I’m going to say it again Kendricks should be moved to Strong Safety…..
Yes, he can play Safety DCar – I can hear you already….lol

Danelle Ellerbe, isn’t coming to Philadelphia…..

and we need Ansah, and Jordan, or Ansah, and Jamie Collins to play the OLB Spot in this 3-4 alignment…

DCar
DCar
March 7, 2013 5:53 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Mind reader now TOO?!? Very impressive Sensei! BWAHAHAHA!!!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 6, 2013 12:25 pm
Reply to  DCar

i remember wehn we got ryans the talk was ‘he wasnt comfortable in the texans 3-4’ now we talk like we are happy he is going to be an ILB and a piece of this d…
as for upcoming FA’s… problem there is not many get away from their teams while the ceiling is high, they are usually descending

paulman
paulman
March 6, 2013 1:31 pm

All the bogus reports that Texasn stated that Ryans wasn’t comfortable in their new 3-4 Scheme were garbage.. If anyopne remembers or reads behind the lines, the Texas were over the Cap last off-Season and basically moved Ryans since they had a suitable player costing them a ton of less $$$ then Ryan’s Contract did, just like they Released OT Eric Winston because of a High Salary..
Teams when trading or releasing players will simply state the “well this Player doesn’t fit out scheme, so we are moving to another option” instead of just say, Demeco Ryans is a good player, not but not worth the $6 Million Dollars per Year for Average Production, since he’s not a game changer or cuases turnovers,etc,etc..
Ryans is simply a good Inside LB regardless of it’s a 4-3 or 3-4 Scheme, his level of play is not going to be much different, it’s a matter of a Team feeling he’s worth his big salary.. My feeling on him is that he’s not worth $6 Million and easily replaceable production wise if I am strictly looking at the numbers

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 6, 2013 2:09 pm
Reply to  paulman

ryans said it himself

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 6, 2013 2:23 pm
Reply to  paulman

paulman
March 20, 2012 – 10:44 pm
He did play the final 8 weeks Rocko so it could not have been that serious of a tear, with afull off-season and back playing at his natural MLB spot in a 4-3, he should bounce back and be ready for a big season.. I like the pick-up and he’s a big upgrade than anyone else that is on the Eagles Roster and even who was availalbe in Free-Agency in my opinion (as long as he’s healthy)

there you are again fraudman… so i guess the ‘bogus reports’ include yours! what a dick!

DCar
DCar
March 7, 2013 5:55 am
Reply to  haveacigar

GOTCHA PAULIE!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

paulman
paulman
March 6, 2013 1:48 pm

Kendricks is not going to Safety, he’s not quick enough in his hip movement to adjust and move well enough to drop in pass-coverages at the NFL level..
Kendricks played ILB in a 3-4 Scheme at Universisty at Cal and was also moved around alot in their Blitz Packages where he was very succesful getting after the QB and into the Backfield disrupting plays.. He should play at the Line of Scrimmate in the NFL and attack,attack,attack to be most effective.. Having him over at the SAM Spot for most of last Season was not the best situation to utilize his skills, but again, since the Eagles LB Corps has lacked in quality players the last 5 Years, Kendricks was forced to play SAM since no one else on the Roster could …

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 3:14 pm
Reply to  paulman

He runs a 4.4…….How is that not quick enough? Most Safeties don’t run that fast. more like in the 4.5 – 4.7 range……

Last season there were plays where he got overwhelmed by Offensive Lineman, especially when they ran at him. He shouldn’t be on the line attacking, {When he did that last year it didn’t work out that well}, he should be in space utilizing his speed and strength, to support the secondary, and in coverage.

I disagree with you big time.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 3:17 pm
Reply to  paulman

screw hip movement. When your covering speed burners, or your coming up for run support, and making a stop who cares…He’s a football player. Thats all I care about. He can play safety.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 6, 2013 3:18 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Besides at his combine, all he did was show he was fluid in the hips.

paulman
paulman
March 7, 2013 9:04 am
Reply to  gmcliff

as I have stated many times,
You line up Kendricks right on the line of scrimmage and get to the backfield,.. He’s too small to be 4-5 Yards off the the line of scrimmage where he gets gobbled up by O/L or FB in the Running Game
Line him up at Line of Scrimmage (like Clay MAtthews Jr, Von Miller,Terrell Suggs,James Harrison and attack the backfield whether it’s a Running or Passing Play is how I would utilize him..

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 7, 2013 9:25 am
Reply to  paulman

as has been proven you state a lot of nonsense and contradictions

paulman
paulman
March 7, 2013 10:27 am
Reply to  haveacigar

“Preposterous” …

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 10, 2013 3:33 pm
Reply to  paulman

Most Safeties are smaller than he is…..What do you mean Paul?

DCar
DCar
March 7, 2013 5:57 am

gm, you’re getting as bad, with the Kendricks to Safety crap, as Paul is infatuated with Mardy Gilyard! ROTFLMMFBO!!!!

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 7, 2013 7:18 pm
Reply to  DCar

But do you see my point DCar? He would be best served moving into the backfield with his speed, and limited power, because he would have some skills, and measuables that most SS in the league don’t have.

jakedog
jakedog
March 7, 2013 8:08 am

There goes paulman with the hips, I agree with gmcliff that he could be a safety, but enough of this experimenting, moving parts, you drafted him to play linebacker, put him on the weak side, unleash him

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 7, 2013 8:31 am

Trent Williams dominated Kendricks — if Kedricks is on the field the Shanahan’s are going to crumble up Kendricks like a sheet of paper in the run game and two hand set shot his butt into a waste paper basket receptacle

paulman
paulman
March 7, 2013 9:17 am

Trent WIlliams dominates alot of LB’s and is a very good OT
Teams over the last 3-4 Years have Targeted the DE’s/OLB,CB & Safety when Running the Ball and short Passing Routes due to the Eagles being “Soft” in all these Positions against the Run.. The Wide 9 just exasperated this lack of size and talent and put even more pressure on Eagles LB and CB’s to come up and make Plays which the Eagles don’t have the Personnel to do so or the Physicality to stop Teams from taking advantage.. Watch how the Teams that play the Eagles consistently like Giants/Cowboys/Redskins and even NFC Teams like the Bears,Falcons,Cardinals,PAckers have attacked this Eagles Defense.. It’s always at the Edges.. Used to run at Trent Cole, or Assante Samuel, then starting running at Jason Babin, M Fokou and then lasy year it was run at DRC,Chaney,Babin, etc,etc …

jakedog
jakedog
March 7, 2013 8:59 am

In the end you have to look at it as another dumb pick, undersized linebacker who mades his bones at the college level with his speed, but not big, strong enough to shed nfl lineman

In the ivy league they have what’s called midget football, football for guys who are fast, but not big enough to play div 1 football, that’s what the eagles have become, midget football, fast guys who aren’t big, strong enough to play in the nfl

When was the last time you saw an eagles team impose their will on another team, and this is born of the draft strategy that howie Roseman continues to have a major hand in

This draft will tell us a lot, and I want a big, nasty interior lineman, take your pick, I’ll go with chance

DCar
DCar
March 7, 2013 10:47 am
Reply to  jakedog

Phenomenal post Jake! I agree 100%. Wasn’t Bobby Wagner & Lavonte David, still on board, when we drafted Kendricks? Wouldn’t they be nice here? They’re who I wanted. I like last years draft, but Kendricks, is another Smurf, in which I said from the beginning, he was too small to play the SAM, & they waited too long, to put him at his better fit, at WILL. Now he really doesn’t fit, especially if they sign Ellerbe.

Frank22
Frank22
March 7, 2013 11:14 am
Reply to  DCar

last I saw them impose their will on a team was when they beat the sttelers in that 16-14 game. One of the best games I have seen them play. Either in 08 or 09.

DCar
DCar
March 7, 2013 12:11 pm
Reply to  Frank22

Seems like ages ago, don’t it?

Frank22
Frank22
March 7, 2013 1:32 pm
Reply to  DCar

sure does.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 7, 2013 7:16 pm
Reply to  jakedog

THATS WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT JAKE BABY!!!!!!

Big, Nasty, and Dominant………

jakedog
jakedog
March 7, 2013 9:10 pm

Gm cliff, my man, we haven’t seen big, nasty dominant since John Paul Bunyan Runyan was here, we need another like him, it all starts at the foundation , the interior lineman, dominate at the moment of initial contact, then all your secondary players look , play better.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 8, 2013 7:41 am
Reply to  jakedog

we need 4 more like him.

paulman
paulman
March 10, 2013 3:46 pm

Kendrick’s is no NFL Safety, play him outside to rush the Backfield and cover backs out in pass situations, by 2014, he’ll likely be moved back inside the departed Demeco Ryan’s who will be a goner after 2013
Kendrick’s is a LB, not a Safety