The Eagles made a surprising move with their fourth round pick, trading up to selecting USC quarterback Matt Barkley.
Barkley was at one point considered a top quarterback prospect, but his stock had fallen off considerably over the last year.
What does this pick say for the Eagles’ quarterback picture, and for the future of Michael Vick and Nick Foles?
I believe that clearly, despite everything that Chip Kelly and Howie Roseman say, the organization does not believe (or at the very least is not confident) that Nick Foles can be the answer, otherwise, why take a quarterback at this point in the draft?
Eww
Wow never saw this coming, nick and Matt battle it out for the future number spot.
Excellent pick with the 4th rd pick. I watched a lot of USC games here in cali and this kid can play. He’s a smart guy with a decent arm. Will love to see the competition between Foles and Barkley. So far i give the Eagles a grade A.
Bye Bye Foles!
Competition? That’s laughable. Barkley is the future. Release Vick and have Foles as backup. I will roll with that. Barkley has same skill set as Brady. Very smart and I can see him running NE offense.
Competiton is laughable? So your saying that Barkley will start immediately and Foles has no shot? Hmmm…
If it wasn’t a new coach and new system. No. But they are both starting at same leve lwith new staff. Barkley is clearly the better player and was clearly projected to go top 5 if it wasn’t for that clown at USC coaching him who just killed Barkley and his draft stock IMO. Pls who knows if Foles is even in the plans. I doubt it but would rather have him backing up Barkley than wasting a year with Vick.
I agree with you about the Vick part.
You guys can think what you want but Denny has it right on the money, this pick was about Foles and not Vick. Kelly can play Vick and prepare Barkley to take over sometime during the season, I don’t like the pick because the kid really doesn’t have an NFL arm but what the hell Kelly coached against him for 4 years so he knows him better than I. The PAC 24 East LOL
If this was indeed about the doubt they had in Foles, why wouldn’t they have traded him to the Chiefs?
I guess the plan this year is to win a bunch of 38-35 games.
Okay I am cool with Barkley taking over as long as Vick is not here anymore.
What are you gonna do if Vick remains. Go to the corner and cry. Get over it already.
It appears that the Eagles are as Dysfunctionable as the NY Jets
Don’t like this move at all.. But that’s just me..
I admit as far as Calue goes getting QB Barkkey in the 4th Round is a steal, just not sure he has the arm strength or toughness
To be a #1 Starter in the NFL anytime soon..
Obviously Chip Kelly has Coached against him and knows him very well and what he can bring to the table..
I can’t see coming to Camp with Vick, Foles & Barkley and the others,
Their simply not enough Snaps to go around the get these QB’s enough touches.. I would have to think that Foles is odd-man out at this point since Vick is not really traceable with his Contract.. Big Surprise and to be honest,
A disappointment in this Draft after opening with 2 Solid Picks..
Biglion821,
Good stuff buddy, hope things are goin well for ya! It’s good to see all the true Vick haters sprouting out of nowhere. Glad to see your true colors. Keep roaring and pouncing these haters BL821.
I disagree Paulman. Did anyone think that Brady would have been as good as he is today? Brady doesn’t have the strongest arm, and isn’t mobile at all. But Brady is a very smart QB, and is very accurate with his throws (similar to Barkley) great value for going in the 4th rd
Maybe I’m retarded, which is def. possible, it has been brought to my attenion more than once but M, Barkley’s skill set is much closer to Foles than Vick. I think if they really wanted to get rid of Foles they could have, he has to have some value. Vick on the other hand has very little trade value and as much as I was pulling for the guy he blows. The eagles are not looking for a running qb or they would have drafted one, they had the oppurtunity. I seriously believe listening to Chip speak and looking at them drafting another TE that Foles is the man and Barkley is the backup. The Eagles are looking at multiple formations that cause mismatches and a qb smart enough to take advantage of them and not make mistakes. Not Vicks strong points. I also think Maclin and Jackson will spend alot more time on the sidelines this year. Were gonna run an offense close to NE and I can’t see Vick in any way being successful. Just my read on it. consider the source
Maybe Im retarded to but if they wanted Foles they wouldn’t have signed Vick to 10 million. They would of just made Foles the starter and let Vick walk. Just a thought.
Clueless, love it.i think you’re absolutely correct in that, if they eagles did not like Foles, they would have traded him.. He did have value. Thought they were offered a 4th by KC
Damn Barrett Jones was just taken. Shit i really wanted that dude
What did the Eagles give up to move up and get Barkley
I got a late start (my daughters Senior Prom is this afternoon)
After the dust settles, this could end being a great pick,
And it aloe are that use use the Free-Agency period to upgrade the Defense to their liking and are using this Draft to rebuild the Offense which was against most of the “Conventional Wisdom” or at least mine..
This has been an interesting Draft and it appears that Kelly is definitely running the show on who he wants which us probably a good thing since he is the one that will be Coaching these guys.. I still see them adding a Center/Guard
And a multi-purpose RB (Barner, Taylor or Franklin)
7th round pick is all.
Value wise, this is a Steal.. Barkley provably was a Top 10 Pick in last years Draft behind Luck, RGIII but ahead of Tannehill, Weeden and the others..and if it doesn’t work out, it’s not like the Eagles mortgage much to take a chance on him.. I am still in shock..
Wow just because my opinion of Vick is different from you guys don’t mean I am hating. I just don’t like him that’s all. He can take his mv7 somewhere else. I am a grown ass man I don’t stand around crying brother come on now
I’m with you on that pdiddy. I’m not too fond of Vick either. Never have been, and never will
One huge advantage for the Eagles when they play the NFC East and familiar Teams , you can just about throw out all the old tapes from the Andy Reid era
For this will be a completely different Offense built in the mold
Of the Pats, 49ers and Stanford more so than a Run-Option Deal that Kelly ran in Oregon.. Big Players, lots of Versatility on Offense and Defense and will be a fresh start for us fans that have been used to the predictable play-Calling and strategy of Andy Reid..
This is a fantastic pick at 4. It’s a 4th round pick. He can come in and compete. I think Foles wins the job but has someone applying pressure. Vick should be out of here soon!!!
But having said that I am all for Barkley even if they move foles. It’s good to have him on the roster
Can someone check on GMCliff, I hope he is not laying face first on his living room carpet, (only kidding of course).
I’m right here just reading the post of all these clueless talent evaluators….
Dag, if they cut him it’s 3mil. and I think but not positive that they gave him that because they had’nt picked a coach yet and did’nt want to close the door on him. The other part of that is they would have had to give him 3 mil. anyway under his old contract. I like Vick and really want him to be successful but to me all the signs are there, look everyone’s guessing thats just my guess.
Cut him and pay him 3 million and save the other 7 million.lol. They are 20 million under the cap. He is not in the future and knows the offense as much as Barkley zero. Vick isn’t in future plans so starting him is a a waste of time. Get Barkley in here and give it to him. If friggin Ponder, Lockear and Weeden can start as rookies don’t tell me Barkley cant.
So much for that whole Oregon read option thing.
Can we get a 6’5 WR in rounds 5 – 7?
Eagles trade with Steelers and send WR Maclin,
And Brandon Graham for QB Charlie Batch
Man this Kelly loves QB’s ..
Kaufman?
Now lets grab R. Swope and Ray Ray Armstrong
Wow. Out all morning and come back in to Barkley. Very interesting pick. And great value for a guy that has been touted for 3 or 4 years now. (though always troubs with USC QBs)
What does it mean?
So much for the read-option I guess. Say hello to a fast paced double tight end NE attack.
Barkley, Foles and Vick.
How does that Sesame Street song go…”One of these things is not like the other, one of these things ain’t kinda the same….”
2 young drop back passers, and one aging running around guy. Bub-bye Vick. Can’t say I’m upset about that.
Foles is wasted on this roster, I like him better than Barkley but another wasted pick for a team that needs guys to play tomorrow. We have seen this story we know how it ends with USC QB’s.
How is he wasting a roster spot? He is 24 years old, with some NFL experience. And he is only making 400K. I did not want Barkley when the draft began, but I also didn’t think he was going in the 4th round. All I wanted this year was a young QB starting whether it was Foles or somebody else. Thus, start Barkley or Foles, let the young guys compete. And get rid of the old trash thats on this team making more money against the cap. Thats what you call waste on this roster. IM just sick of wasting more time playing these career losers that are not part of the Eagles future. Start the young players and start rebuilding this team right. And real Eagles fan would want that since its in the best interest of the team.
If you think he’s coming here to compete with Foles you are sadly mistaken. Foles joins the list of wasted picks along with Curry , Allen and the rest of those guys. Foles isn’t going to play here unless Vick stinks it up. The baton will be handed from Vick to Barkley that’s what I mean by wasted.
I could care less whether the starter is Barkley or Foles. I just want a young player starting at the position. There is no point for this team to start an old bum at the QB position or any other position for that matter.
BTW as soon as Barkley was selected Chip said: “I do not want a running back that can throw.” haha I wonder who he was talking about.
Maybe Mike Scott since he just gave Vick 3 million dollars?
Thats nothing, esp when you have over 20 million in cap room left. They just gave D Bell 4 million last year, maybe one of the most pathetic Eagles players ever. Lurie gives out a couple million in charity money every year.
The 49ers, Bengals, Texans, Seahawks, are killing it in this Draft..
To review….there are 5 QBs on the roster now.
They will not go to camp with 5 Qbs. Can’t go to camp with 5 QBs.
3 of the QBs are under 24. One is 28. One is 33.
4 of them are over 6′ 2″. One is under 6′ tall.
4 of the QBs were signed or drafted by Roseman/Kelly.
One just took a 2/3 pay cut.
Good-bye old man…I’d like to say thanks for the memories, but other than One Giant comeback, there weren’t many positive ones.
The Vikings killed it to.Hey paulman didnt I tell you Honey Badger was gonna play safety in the NFL?Cant wait until he proves you and gmcliff wrong!Love this Eagles draft so far! E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!
I like Matthiue game as a Slot CB, and am not convinced he will Play Safety in the NFL, but will contribute on Special Teams as well.. He will make an impact as long as he keeps his nose clean from the Pot of Honey
I like the kid and wish him well.. I still hope that Brandon Boykin can fill this Role on the Eagles and not as down with Matthiue as GMCliff is..
Bruce Arians said hes gonna play FS.I believe hes another Bob Sanders not as physical but with better ball hawking skillls.
Did’t hear or read that, we’ll see how it plays out but this guy will definitely get on the field for his a playmaker big time..
S Earl Wolff
Not a bad pick from NC State, tough physical Player who will compete as 4th/5th Safety and have to make his mark with Special Teams Play
Another overdraft! Rambo, Williams, & a bunch of pass rushers still left, & we draft Wolff. This entire draft blew! Not 1 playmaker, or difference maker, on the defensive side of the ball. Hey, but we have 5 QB’s & 4 TE’s though!
LOL , this makes sense to them so let’s just hope they know what their doing.
4th/5th Safety, & that’s a good thing? GTFO, gimmie a break.
It’s also safe to say that D-Jax will have to do a lot more than 40-50 Yard Bomb Routes if he wants to see the Field in this new double TE look attack..
Can he and Maclin be tough and durable enough to run bubble routes, reverses, pitch backs and slants across the middle
The Eagles got 2 big TE targets now (Ertz/Casey) big WR in Benn and the kid they signed from Boston College, so I expect a lot of spread outs, roll outs with shorter passing routes than what the Eagles did under the AR era
Can d-Hax/Naclin adjust will be interesting to see this summer camp and pre-Season for the bombs away air attack is clearly over under Kelly’s philosophy..
I did not see this coming. Not sure how i feel about the qb roster we have. Will they be keeping Vick and foles too? What I am happy to see is that we have a beefy online, weapons at Te and Fb. Add to that we have a run game and a bigger d… This is like the anti Andy team… I love it.
How’s the Media & Fans up in Minnesota loving their Selections
Stevo, they have got to be excited.. Floyd, Rhodes and Patterson
Great 1st Round for sure..
I went to the draft party at their dome in my Philly stuff. It’s MN… I had to explain the game to them.
So long to Foles! Barkley era begins 2014!!
How exactly does foles go away? He may become a back up in time but I think Foles and Barkley are on this roster for next 2 years minimum.
If Chip thinks Barkley is the future of this team, then the era should begin now. Barkley should be the QB against the redskins. Lets stop wasting time. Screw Vick who will likely be out of the league in 2 years. Go young, start the rebuild asap. If Barkley struggles as expected for a young player so be it.
scrolled down to read Vinnie’s posts and he didn’t disappoint — Vinnie is must read entertainment every time
I love the direction I am seeing this team go. It may take a whole year and another down season to get there but It is refreshing to be out of Andy Rieds Shadow
This pick should make people wonder what base offense the Eagles will run. Barkley is no Zone/Option quarterback. As far as running a West Coast Offense – Barkley can’t beat out Foles. Anybody who thinks Barkley is a better pocket QB than Foles is nuts.
I think Barkley will be a good back up to foles and push him!
This is all about race. Many times on this board MANY posters stated they didn’t want Geno Smith at all.. They didn’t want him in ANY round. Now all of the sudden Barkley is selected(who was clearly not the player Geno Smith is, check out the rankings) oh maybe Barkley can be backup. Barkley can compete.lol. If it was Geno Smith taken in 4th round all the rednecks would be killing him. lol. Amazing how things are different now.
LOL , Barkley is just the latest USC fraud QB. Foles is better so go get somebody that can make a difference on the field right now. Lets que up that interview where Barkley threw Kiffin under the bus and question his character of course nobody will know what I’m talking about I wonder why?
Kiffin sucks and cost the kid big money. I bet you would throw someone under the bus for a thousand dollars. Now imagine a few million!
So its okay just as long as the coach is an idiot? He lost that money all on his own by wanting to be the big man on campus and not playing with the big boys. He didn’t want to compete with Griffin and Luck and it cost him big time. Like I said I am by no means a Foles fan but I prefer Foles over Barkley.
Kiffin is the biggest scumbag in college football. Everybody knows that. Only an idiot would defend a guy like Kiffin.
Your kidding me right? So its okay to throw your coach under the bus now right? I’m talking about Barkley who gives a damn about Kiffin.
I would have taken Geno in round 4
I am just glad that this move- Because of play style- seems to be hinting at the departure of Vick whom I really dislike and will not apologize for!
What play style Regal? The one Vick and McCoy was raving about after the mini camp? Vick was ecstatic about it but he doesn’t fit? Can I borrow hour crystal ball please?
No Foles and Barkley are more similar in that they are pocket passers not scrambling runners thats all
Vinnie help the Vickpologists are after me!!! AHH!!! LOL
LOL.
They’re so sore right now. Its almost like they’re personally hurt by the fact that the “bub-bye never-was superstar” writing is on the wall.
Yes Vinnie laughing because you keep insisting Foles is the QB of the future but every move they make says otherwise. Like I said picking Barkley means they aren’t convinced Foles is the guy take off the blinders.
As I mentioned the other day, any drafting of a QB automatically means the end of the Mike VIck experiment.
There are 5 qbs
4 were drafted of signed or drfted by Roseman. One was not.
4 are under 30. One is over 30.
The drafting of any QB would have represented the end of Vick….the selection of a statue like Barkley cements it.
2 recently drafter immobile, but accurate QBs?
A West Coast OC
I do not know who will be the starting QB for the Eagles, Foles or Barkley (though I’d now figure it’ll be Foles to at least start the year)…but its pretty obvious what direction the Eagles are moving towards….and that doesn’t include the injury prone mini-man.
And that’s more than enough for me.
But don’t be sad, I’m sure you’ll be able to watch the “experience” run around for Jacksonville, or Winnipeg or somewhere…..
Just not for the Birds. And thank goodness for that.
Another genius with a crystal ball, like i said if Foles is the QB of the future you don’t resign Vick and draft Barkley who by the way won’t beat out Foles this year or next. I can also say Kelly has signed Dixon and drafted Barkley what does your crystal ball say about that?
It was a good pick .. I like foles better than Barkley though. Barkley will have a major chip though. If he came out last year he would have been a top 5 pick
Word from NovaCare Ctr is that Owner Lurie has Offer Mike Vick a paid Position with the Eagles Organization as Director of Community Services,
Allarently Vick and his team of advisors are discussing him taking the non-Football Position.. Interesting.. I believe Vick has sustained so many head shots that this his best route to live a productive life off the Football Field..
Of course this is off the record until June so Vick will get to collect his $3 Million Roster Bonus, then will be announced by Mid-June before Camp opens..
JH called this a year ago.. Matt freakin Barkley is a Eagle! Great great pick and what value! Birdgang did it again! I called this a year ago and we got our man. He will be our eventual starting franchise QB of the Philadelphia Eagles. Lets go
Eagles tossed like 4 starters off the roster before Free Agency on Defense —
the draft seems to be an assault on the starters from the offensive side of the ball. RT, TE, QB seem to be up for grabs for the start of 2013.
Good. This team was HOT GARBAGE last few years.!!
4th for Kafka
3rd for Foles
4th for Barkley
I’m going to go out on a limb and predict the Eagles draft a QB in 2014 around the 3rd or 4th round. LOL
You should pick a QB just about every year in my opinion. You never know when you stumble upon a Brady or a Werner.
Jamarcus Russell and Vince Young are loosing up their arms like that kid on the Play 60 Cam Newton TV commercial.
LMAO, Well thats why you don’t blow the once in a lifetime opportunity they were given.
NOw there you go Barkley in the 4th is a far better risk already than J Russle was at 1 (hindsight helps)
Vick is still the QB this year. Dunno why u clowns think otherwise. Chip Kelly likes diversity. He likes to have diff styles on his roster and on his coaching staff. He has said this over and over.
“dunno why…”
Obviously you dunno much….We “clowns” understand how NFL teams run. We understand that some times reality can hit you in the face, no matter how much you’d like to ignore it.
Listen Casserly on the network just explained (and you should have listened closely – the message was meant for you) that, with new NFL practice rules, a team can….at best….develop 2 qbs.
There is not enough time to get reps to others. The 3rd Qb goes in every now and then to spell the first 2, but a team can only develop 1 guy….maybe 2 (again, at best)
So…look at the roster.
2 recently drafted immobile QBs (6′ 3″ and 6’5″)…both with potential long term futures.
One 33 yr old injury prone mini-man with no long term future
One 28 yr old guy who knows Kelly
One guy you’ve never heard of.
So….with this being a REBUILIDING program…..it would be stupid to roll with the old man.
Which of those 5 do you start a rebuilding program?
Only an idiot says “How about Vick?”
Eagles QB depth chart in Sept:
1 and 2 – Foles and Barkley
3 Dixon
Practice Squad…whatever that kid’s name is
Winnipeg Blue Bombers QB depth chart in Sept
1 – Buck Pierce
2 – Mike Vick experience.
The Kelly system is something nobody in the NFL understands, Casserly is what 105 years old? Don’t act like you know what goes on when established NFL people have no clue how Chip Kelly runs his operation.
Kelly basically admitted that he ran a complex “run-option” at Oregon, but that the passing game was very basic.
He understands that such a basic passing attack would get eaten up in the NFL.
Hence, the hiring of Shurmer, brought in to create a complex passing attack to go with the rushing attack.
Now….knowing that the game “go fish” is complex for the former superstar, you can begin to understand why two young pocket passers will soon be at the top of the depth chart, whilst the guy you keep panning for will be released before September.
Get him V