Eagles quarterbacks Michael Vick and Nick Foles are splitting time with the first team from practice to practice and practice session to practice session. I’m of the belief that Chip Kelly’s love of the read option means Vick is in the lead, but I really have no idea which quarterback is really leading in the mind of Kelly and his coaches right now.
There are times when each quarterback seems to doing a better job of operating the passing offense. One day it’s Vick the next day it’s Foles. Kelly could really go either way.
We learned after practice today that Vick is really troubled by splitting time with Foles.
“It’s tough,” Vick said when asked about splitting time with the first team. “I have to continue to be a professional and put my feelings and emotions to the side, and just continue to compete. But it’s hard. I would be lying if I said it wasn’t, but that’s just what I have to deal with, and I’m going to keep dealing with it until I see otherwise.”
He was then asked if he had told Kelly about his disdain for splitting time with Foles.
“We haven’t talked about it yet,” Vick said. “Coach knows exactly what he’s doing. We don’t question him, he don’t question us. We just listen.”
Vick may have much more time ahead to bemoan sharing time with Foles. After the workout was finished Kelly didn’t seem to be in any hurry to make a decision about his starting quarterback.
“They’re both very coachable”, Kelly said. “They both want to win. They’re both are here as many hours as they possibly can be. They both really work at the game. They want to get better. It doesn’t matter how long Mike has been in the league or what system Nick comes from, they’ve both really wrapped their arms around what Billy (Lazor) and Pat (Shurmur) are teaching them. It’s fun.”
In other news:
Water is Wet
Sounds like foles is winning the competition, as expected, and Vick is crying the blues
Newsflash:
You can’t win a QB comp in shorts.
/end.
Sounds to me that the starting Qb wants the reps to get sharp in the offense ! Vick just needs to be patient and let it play out
For crying out loud, you expect him to be happy splitting reps? Find me one guy happy splitting 1st team reps and if you do he needs to be cut immediately.
LOL.
EXACTLY!
But when it’s Michael Vick – he’s scared he losing the competition, he’s buckling under pressure, he’s whining. Etc.
The reason why you are splitting reps is because you clearly suck for a NFL vet. Look around the league, what vet Qbs are having open competitions? Not even the average Qbs, who have been in the league for years, have to go through open competitions.
Actually that has little to do with it – Kelly believes in open competitions – and if you honestly beleive there aren’t other open QB comps going on around the league..well…Iet’s just say other teams may not be being so open about it, but there are several other QBs cross the league who ain’t real sure they are going to be the ones under center come September.
QB comps are good. And they should happen more often – contracts are what generally keep that from happening – but it’s not really a reflection on any player considering there is a new coach new playbook, new everything and neither of these guys are his guys.
Name me other quality vets around the league where their coach wouldn’t call them the starter today? You are so delusional and all you do is make shit up. The only other vet Qbs that are not called starters today by their coaches are the ones that suck. Find me a good or even average QB that doesn’t know he is the starter to prove your stupid point? Until then stop with the BS.
Im sorry but if you think Chip would take half the camp reps away from Brady, Manning, Brees, Rogers etc. for guys that barely know what a NFL football field is then you are mental.
SIgh.
Now your argument is name me another quality Vet…
Chip Kelly is a new coach who inherited two QBs (one who was on the way out) who has a HISTORY of holding open QB competitions. He’s installing a new system across the board.
Short of having Brady or Manning why wouldn’t he have an open QB comp?
Yea only those 2 guys right..You are a complete joke if you think Chip would take away half the snaps from guys like Rogers, Eli, Flacco, Stafford, Rg3, Brees, Luck, Kap, Ryan (pretty much 80% of the starters from last year). But yea keep dodging simple questions.
lmfao. pheags is either a total hamburger or a mike vick relative…
sorrry sorrry sorry let me rewrite
tsjohnson is either a total hamburger or a mike vick relative.
LOL.
Stafford? Eli? FLACCO?
Actually even with Brady and Manning I think Chip would have an open QB comp – cause that who he is – but it would probably be more lip service than anything with those guys.
Now – those other guys you mentioned – yeah there’d def be a QB competition.
Btw he was a vet QB in an open competition like 2 years ago when Reid was here. Reid couldn’t even name him the starter in camp either. But hey I guess Reid was a new style coach too lol. So your argument is complete BS. Like I said name me another quality vet QB whose coach won’t call them the starter today?
You are the same clowns who said open competition is what is needed, now that Vick doesn’t like it you defend him , you guys are priceless
Foles doesnt care he makes 100;000 a year. Being the 8th QB taken in his draft he is just happy being in NFL. lol. Foles is lucky Vick doesnt kick his ass and take his lunch money.
LMAO!!!!
Which one of those posts was a defense ?
If Foles made a comment saying he doesn’t want to split reps (which is basically saying he wants the job handed to him) I doubt those same clowns would defend him.
Um..Foles doesn’t want to split reps. He’s basically said as much as well…what do you think “I don’t worry about and just focus on getting better” means.
lol
Um…
None of us ever said Vick would like an open competition. We said an open competition is good for the team under the circumstances. And it is.
Do you actually think before you write?
Sanchez likes competition too….until he is in a competition…..has Vick every really had competition for a starting job? I guess when he got out of prison, but he was just happy to have a job….otherwise it has always been handed to him.
Competition brings out the best in players….if it doesn’t then maybe he isn’t the player many think he is. So many think that Foles is “ass” as someone once said about Kolb….well if that is the case, why would Vick worry?
Nothing in what was said suggest Vick is worried.
Wanting to know who the starting QB is earlier instead of later makes perfect sense for him – the consensus seems to be the guy who isn’t the starter is the one getting cut – if you’re looking for employment else where you have a much better chance of that getting cut PRIOR to training camp then right before the season starts.
Great and balanced point tsjohnson…I may add that when you are installing a new offense the starting QB needs as many reps as possible. Kelly has spent quite a bit of time installing the read-option into the offense…its clear that the QB to run that style of offense is Vick…Vick knows it, Foles knows it, the Team knows it…and Kelly should know it too!
Vick is fortunate to even have a Roster Spot after his 2011 & 2012 Seasons
I give him 2 weeks once Camp comes to show Kelly that he’s not the QB or Leader to take this Franchise forward.. It’s just a matter of time as the noose is getting tighter and tighter every week for him .
The attitude of “Entitlement” that surrounds Vick
Is really showing thru.. Good Riddance
LMAO ..y’all fall for the banana in the tailpipe every time
Why wasn’t this sound bite part of the article
“It’s never happened other than being in college,” Vick said after minicamp practice Wednesday. “But the thing is I don’t even worry about a quarterback competition. I worry about getting better each and every day. That’s the only way you’re going to progress. That’s the only way you’re going to be able to go out there and win football games on Sundays is if you make progress and better your skills set each and every day.”
Because that isn’t a sexy quote Gotta. And it will bring out the anti Vick nation. Definitely the banana in the tail pipe story.
It’s the same thing in Chicago where they have a new coach and Jay Cutler is in a competition for the starting job with…. oh wait… yeah Cutler is the starter.
Or maybe San Diego – they have a new coach and new system….. no, Philip Rivers has the job… no competition there either.
No competition in KC – Andy went out and got his guy.
Jeezz, even Kevin Kolb has been named the starter in Buffalo.
I think pheags88 is right – not many vet QBs have to fight for their job, even in a new system…lol
Chip Kelly had a QB competition every year he was in college.
Every. year.
He’s installing an offense that’s all new – even for the NFL – not just new to the players – but new to the NFL – so truthfully even if he had Brady and Manning he’d probably hold a QB comp.
That’s who he is. It’s not any more complicated than that.
The answer to that Irish is who cares what other teams are doing? Or does that only apply to certain arguments?
I think the answer is that Michael Vick has to compete for the the starting job because over the last two years he has 38 turnovers, more than any quarterback in the NFL, 24 interceptions and 14 fumbles lost. Vick only played in 23 games, missing three games in 2011 and six in 2012 due to injuries. Vick is 10-13 as the Eagles’ starter during that time.
When you suck that bad for two years, you have to compete with 3rd and 4th round draft pick for the starters job.
Google Philip Rivers then repost
Oh so we not gonna count all 3 yrs he’s started in Philly
C’mon fellas if we gonna debate keep it 100
“Google Philip Rivers then repost”
What does that mean?
“Oh so we not gonna count all 3 yrs he’s started in Philly”
Here’s a clue for you – Vick has gotten worse each of of the last two years. Who the hell cares what happened 3 years ago before the league adjusted to Vick’s schoolyard style.
The fact is Vick is fighting for the starting job because he has been one of the worse QBs in the league for the last two years. You can’t change that with your unfocused comments…lol
Ok Let me explain it to you like you are a 2y/o
Phil Rivers who is a QB in the NFL has 35 INT’s & 20 Fumbles in the last two years..I will admit to not knowing how many of those were lost..
so when I said Google Rivers then repost. I meant that if you would have done that the statement you made
(“because over the last two years he has 38 turnovers, more than any quarterback in the NFL, 24 interceptions and 14 fumbles lost”)
would be false…
and when I said “Oh so we not gonna count all 3 yrs he’s started in Philly”
I meant if you are going to talk about 2011/2012 why not include 2010..that is all
I understand why you didn’t …3694 yds tot offense and 30TD’s in 12 games don’t support your argument
I’m not to reply again …Dueces
Rivers played 32 games over the last two seasons, Vick played only 23 games. Vick had 38 turnovers in only 23 games. Whats-more, Vick’s 10 red-zone turnovers since 2011 are also the most in the NFL.
I guess if we should turn the clock back to 2010 when Vick was still in his 20’s and the league was not ready for his schoolyard style play.
Of course he doesn’t want to split reps. Foles hasn’t done shit in this league and didn’t do all that much when he was in. Vick’s the accomplished vet, so I understand his outlook. But Kelly wants comp, and I agree with him. You don’t have to put your eggs in one basket, and you leave your options open and see what Foles can do when he isn’t handed the job.
But the anti-Vick crowd needs to stop pretending that they want competition. They want Vick gone and Foles to be handed the job. But loser franchises just hand the QB job to somebody simply because he happens to be on the roster or to ‘see what they have’. The best player plays.
Its obvious who the best player is…Mike Vick…Foles had a good chance last year to show what he can do…and not one team stepped to the plate and gave the Eagles a good offer for him. Not one…if the QB is anyone besides Vick this year we dont have a shot…
If Vick doesn’t like splitting time with Foles now, I wonder how he’s going to feel splitting reps with Blaine Gabbert in August.
I wonder how Vinnie is going to feel when Vick opens the season as the starter and Foles is backing up Alex Smith in KC.
Wonder what you will do big when Vick is cut, foles starts, leads team to victories, but we hear your feint praise, foles doesn’t have “it”, you still haven’t told us what that it is, but we know
I told you what it was a long time ago Jake, and Foles doesn’t have it. We would know it if he did, Andrew Luck has it, the ability to win games in the 4th quarter. Not be a stat compiler like Matthew Stafford who I like but never makes the plays to win consistently. If Foles wins the job I will root for him to prove me wrong.
See Jake it has nothing to do with the color of his skin my friend.
Yeah Foles doesn’t have it just looking at him. But the below average 12 year waste does. Cult of Vick strikes again.
It’s good that you guys have no control over my favorite football team. The hate that your spew blinds you to the truth. You take statements out of context to purposely distort their meaning. Your evaluation of a player’s worth is based on incomplete statistics; as if we’re so stupid as to not remember what actually happened in 2010 thru 2012. I respect Chip Kelly. He’s a clear thinking football genius, who wants to put the best team on the field without the “jaundiced eye” of some of the so-called football fans here in Philadelphia.
Vick sucks. Can’t wait till he’s gone, so I don’t have to hear, any of his verbal diarrhea anymore. That is all.
I respect that DCar but most of these same posters couldn’t wait for the end of the McNabb era so Kolb could take over, but only the posters who are so called Vick backers are delusional race baiters guys like you and Xevious just hate him as a QB because of his sub par play but at the same time if he wins the job you could care less because you root for the team and not the individual.
yeah Ill be there hoping all season. The problem is Ive been saying I told you so and it just makes me explode during the games. I think the worst big, is as long as I see #7 out there I know how it’s gonna end. I would rather see Dixon or Kinne then #7 just because I don’t know how it will end…I have a prety good clue but I would have hope.
Yep. But I don’t think he’s here, by game 1.
The crazy thing is if Boyd or Bridgewater winds up here, 2 years from now we’ll be having the same arguments.
Yes.
Yes we will.
If they suck as bad as VIck does then we certainly will. Otherwise, they’ll get a season and a half of full support so we can find out if they’re capable or not.
No we shouldn’t. So basically big your saying if whomever the QB is has Black skin, the same people will love him or hate him regardless of talent? I disagree man, I think you will love Manzell and I would love Bridgewater if they could play the position and win for us. I have more faith in Eagles fans…Vick just is a Cult man…
With a certain segment yes we will be having this argument but I really shouldn’t post comments like that because it just prolongs the endless debate.
it is sooooo stupid to be talking about race here with respect to vick. i am here everyday and the only people that say people dont like vick because of race are those that defend him.
its absolutely mind boggling to me.
this has zero to do with race here on this site with these arguments and everything to do with how bad of a quarterback he is
the bottom line is that Vick has seen what Chip Kelly wants to do…he sees the read option that he wants to employ…and so he wants the reps to get better at it…all of the Vick haters and grumblers will blow up at anything the man says!
The bottom line is like it or not…the best QB on the Eagles is Mike Vick anything else simply doesn’t make sense!
lmfao at vick haters. im sorry if you are fan of football, watch football, study football, analyze football it is damn near impossible not to hate his game
real football fans who watch football objectively know what Vick’s problems were last year! its simple..Andy “Passaholic” Reid who watches his QB get killed and still throws with a weak o-line! Everybody who sees Vick arm strength and speed finds it impossible not to want him running Chip Kelly’s offense which places an emphasis on running the football!
now its the weak oline excuse and andy reid exuse. vick has been playing like this for 9.5 nfl years. and just to let you know the eagles oline graded out worse in 2010 when vick had all that success than the oline ranked last year.
vick has been below average in qb production for 9.5 years and its the coaches fault, o line fault, oc fault, wr fault… never vicks, lmfao. i wish i was that stupid to believe that, i wanna be excited about the eagles again
What was Vicks problem in 2011 then Tariq1 when he had a heathly OL all Season, where RB McCoy had a career Season and Vick’s decision-making & turnovers still put the Eagles out of the Playoffs by November..
He is the most qualified to run the read option, but he is bound to get hurt in that system. He has missed time in almost every season that he has been in the NFL and now we have to worry about concussion issues. Whoever the back up is needs to have some snaps with the 1st team in training camp as well, because their is almost a certainty that they will see some time on the field this year.
Just watched some video of Matt Barkley throw the ball 60 yards in the air on the money
Kid at the local high school does the same whats your point?
point is Vickpologists constantly refer to arm strength as one of his saving graces…and that its a problem for his competitors.
Coming out of college arm strength of Barkley was constantly cited as a problem
Foles “lack of arm strength” was constantly brought up by Vickpologists after he fluttered a ball to Maclin with a broken hand.
He’s just saying that Barkley (and Foles) have arm strength just fine for the NFL.
All of your posts focus on vick.
What about the horrible offensive line?
What about fat boy’s horrible play calling?
That contributed to all of the turnovers.
And Foles still only won one game.
So if we are judging from last season, neither qb played great behind that line and that moron of a coach.
Bad olines and questionable play calling do not negate the fact that Vick also sucks.
Even if “neither qb” played well, or even if they are equal (they aren’t – but I’ll humour you).
Even if they are equal, then the only logical choice is to take the kid who is 10 years younger and will continue to improve over the set in his ways maxed-out vet.
bsmvideos are you talking about the same coach who called the plays in 2010 when vick crushed all his previous season highs and only played in 12 games? that coach?
also are you talking about the offensive line last year that graded out as better than the offensive line vick played behind in 2010 yet behind the worse Oline he put up career highs?
If Brown doesn’t get fumblutis versus the Panthers and Cowboys, eagles could have won those 2 Games.. If TE off the streets,Evan Moore, catches the ball at the 1 yard line and falks forward in the end-zone , the Eagkes coulda beat the Redskins so Foles gave the Eaglez a chance to Win 3-4 Games of the 6-7 he played in with a completely back-up OL (besides Mathis) no McCoy and no D-Jax for a few games either and then when
Vick played the final game of the Season versus the Giants with same crew that Foles did, the game was over by the 2nd quarter/halftime.. Pretty much sums up what kind of promise and future if Mike Vick plays..
In other news Vick puts so many butts in the seats they are expanding:
2013, 6:00 AM
After 10 seasons at Lincoln Financial Field, the Eagles are investing $125 million to renovate the stadium during the next two years.
The privately financed project will include a seating expansion, two new high-definition video boards, upgraded amenities, WiFi installation, imagery of great moments and players throughout team history, and two new connecting bridges for the upper concourses.
And if akers doesnt miss 2 field goals vick beats aaron rodgers in the playoffs
Eagles lost that Packer Game in the first half 17-3.. Which shoukd have been 21-3 at half if James jones doesn’t drop a sure TD Pass just before half as Samuel fell asleep at CB.. Packers took it easy on Coach Reid and Eagles in 2nd half as not to embarrass him and the Team which almost came back to bite them.. All in the past of 3 years ago with most of the Roster gone now..
Vick blew the Vikings Game 2 weeks before which put the Eagles as a 5th Seed instead of being a #2 Seed, that’s the story of the great 2010 Season from Mike Vick is that he didn’t get it done when it counted