Eagles head coach Chip Kelly made an awfully unpopular decision when he took over as the Birds head coach. He decided to keep Michael Vick around. Vick has been awful the last two years with the Birds. Yes, it’s true that the Eagles offensive line was terrible in 2012, but Vick was bad in 2011 and 2012. He was a walking talking turnover machine.
Most Eagles fans thought they had seen the last Vick when Andy Reid packed his things up and left, but little did they know, Vick would remain. Kelly was criticized heavily for the decision, but when you look at it closer, he had no choice.
Kelly realizes that in order to win over the players he has in the locker room at the Nova Care Complex, he had to hang onto Vick and give him a chance to win the team’s starting quarterback job. Most of the guys on the roster consider Vick to be the best quarterback that they have. That may or may not be true, but Vick is the only quarterback on the roster, who has ever done anything on the NFL level.
If Kelly had come in and cut Vick, it would have sent a signal to the rest of the squad that he was sacrificing the next couple of years. In order to win their confidence, Kelly had to convince the other players on the roster that he was trying to win now. Keeping Vick sent that message.
“You want to talk about our players buying in? If I went in the locker room and said this is going to be a really good year for us to get ready for the following year, that’s not going to work,” Kelly said during last month Philly Mag’s Birds 24/7. “No one has a mindset like that. So our decision isn’t based upon what is the future two years down the road, three years down the road. I don’t think that far.”
Kelly is trying to win in 2013 as well he should. He’s going to get a pass if things don’t go well this season, but he’s still trying to win.
“My job is to win right now. How do you think I’d be received in Philly if I told them we were going to write this year off?” Kelly asked. “Those people that are waving to me on the streets right now? That ain’t going to happen. But that’s never been my mentality either. We’re not writing anything off. We’re going out there to compete and see how it falls.”
The coach is smart enough to know that cutting Vick isn’t the way to begin his time here. On the other hand, if Vick is outplayed by one of the team’s other quarterbacks, then he has every right to bench him or cut him.
“Everywhere I’ve been it’s played itself out on the field. Does that mean it’s going to happen here? I don’t know,” said Kelly. “But I’ve never been in a situation where we’ve had to make a decision and it’s like 50-50, pick it out of a hat. Somebody over the course of time has stepped up and has ‘won the battle.’ That’s what you’re hoping to have happen again here, and hopefully it’s evident to everybody, like ‘There’s no question that it’s this guy because his game stepped up.’”
But by keeping Vick, Chip Kelly in essence is not really finding out the other young QB’s on his Roster so if the Eagkes with Vick win 6-7 Fames in 2013 then what has been built or learned a out the QB Pisition moving forward and then next Off-Season is the same thing which who is outkr QB of the Future??
This should have been his priority as HC in Year 1 is to find or develop that Future leader of the steam which is the QB.. Is Vick this kind of QB??
I think not.. A huge mistake by Kelly in a rebuild program I believe that will actually cost the franchise another year or two of being a legitimate Playoff Contender ..
What part about not rebuilding and trying to win didn’t you understand about this article? He will try to win his way. He may not be here in 3 years so he’s not looking at this as some building project.
paulman what you’re saying makes no sense at all. Cut Vick to see if the younger guys can play?
If they stink then what?
you still lose.
Chip Kelly kept Vick to at least give the team a chance with the option to let him walk if one of the younger players win the job right out with no questions.
That’s the way it should be and nothing should be given to anyone. You win the job…..You play!
awfully unpopular decision???? I guess gcobb didn’t get the message that Vick puts buts in seats. lol
If this is actually true (and I don’t think it is – I think – hope – that he was just rattling on)…but if this is true:
“So our decision isn’t based upon what is the future two years down the road, three years down the road. I don’t think that far.”
Then the Chip Kelly regime will be very short indeed.
Vinnie, I was trying to get point across all this time. Chip Kelly is all about the here and now, he isn’t worrying about building for the future because in 4 years he’ll be the HC at USC.
I stated months ago that the only good reason for keeping vick around was for the locker room. So that when Foles beats out Vick and he is released the rest of the team buys in that they have their guy.
Part of coaching is manipulating the psychology of a teams make up!
I think Foles will win you more games then Vick.
Vick is cancer and malcontent whose selfish, me first attitude, excuse after excuse has already affected players like D-Jax & McCoy who are part of the Eagles Future.. Why bother when Vick has led the Eagles to a 12-23 Record
In there last 2 plus Seasons.. What’s the point of having him around..
Paulman….did Reid,the personnel dept, defensive coaching hires, horrible offensive line, letting good safeties walk, horrendous play-calling have anything to do with 12-23 Record In the last 2 plus Seasons?
How can you say Vick lead to a 12-23 record when any other QB probably would have won 5 games under the circumstances. Don’t forget Foles came in and the losses kept mounting. Vick put his body on the line in spite of the circumstances and won come behind games when the team was in shambles, but I guess those points get thrown out when biased views are made. Well Chip Kelly watched the tape and told everyone the problems were not all Vick’s fault, and he was right and decided to see what could happen giving him a beter environment surrounded around better players, better talent evaluations, and competent play-calling that would compliment Vick’s skill set. Obviously Chip Kelly.”THE HEAD COACH” needed this year to determine what Vick is.
I think you guys are upset knowing there’s a chance Vick succeeds.
If he win games and we make the Playoffs with Vick healthy throughout the season?
Would you guys like that?
I would love for that to happen Songs,
But we all know Vick will struggle with a new system for his lack of Football smarts and his propensity to turn the Ball Over, so I am a realist
About his potential to do anything special based on his track record..
You can’t teach and old dog new tricks, and at 33 years old and a best up body, Vick is an old dog in 2013..,
The Eagles 12-23 Record in their last 35 Games is what they are,
No excuses, and now it was not all Vick’s fault for the Franchise, Coaches and many of it’s Players were too arrogant, too selfish and too complacent
Which Vick as the Starter for most of these games has to take some ownership and accountability which I have yet to hear from him and probably never will since he lives in denial about his QB Play..
Jimmy Rollins just cost the Phillies another chance to win an important game, this guy is going through the motions , what a lazy sob
Your GG SS commits an error and he ‘costs us’ … That’s a joke. He plays 155 games a year makes the routine plays and the spectacular plays look simple and makes an error and you rip him. That’s bullshit. If you’ve ever played you would understand that errors happen. When jimmy is gone and we are floundering around with a 220 SS that is deficient in the field you will miss him.
*shrug*
Why Kelly kept Vick was obvious to anyone who wasn’t a part of the He-ManVick-Hating fan club.
The first player Kelly brought to Philly was his old quarterback Dixon, then he drafted a quarterback with an important draft pick. What’s that say about the confidence he has in Vick and Foles?
To me, this is bullshit… Barkley is here because Kelly don’t know how good/bad Foles will be… Dixon is here because he don’t know how good/bad Vick will be. It’s that simple.
This whole thing smells more-and-more like a Steve Spurrier disaster every day.
Not really Irish…..His drafting Barkley had nothing to do with his Confidence in Vick or Foles. It had more to do – in their mind – with draft value.
Barkley can’t touch Foles. Thats why most say Foles will win the job outright, and has gotten way more reps than Barkley. He will be trade bait for some sucker team that overvalues his name, reputation, and hype.
To me Barkley isn’t an NFL QB, and Dixon was pure politics, otherwise he wouldn’t be on this team. He is a practice squad journeyman.
Barkely was too much of a Draft Value to pass on and is really for the Future and is probably 2 Years away from legitimately competing for a Starter’s Spot.. but meanwhile, comes into a great situation in Philly with little expectations out of the gate to Start right away, and work and learn from creative Coach’s and a very good Staff to learn the Postion and by by next Summer, Barkely will be the primary Back-Up to Foles and by 2015, be ready to compete for the Starters Position..
Remember, you don’t become and remain a 3 Year Starter at USC by being a slouch.. and just because Barkely had a lackluster Senior Season, as did the entire USC Football Team around him including their HC Kiffin and Coaching Staff for a variety of Reason that you just don’t write him off as non-talent QB.. We could all say the very same thing about Mike Vick when taking in his 2011 & 2012 Performance as the Eagles #1 QB.. Yes, some will blame the injuries, Coach AR, the Game Plans, The OL, the crappy Defense, yadda, yadda, yadda, but it cracks me up when many of Vick Supporters, who think that Vick can bounce back and regain his form under Chip Kelly as a Productive QB but are not willing to say or think the same thing about Barkely… So again, you have to consider the source … Barkely will play in the NFL, and I am not saying he will be an All-Pro or anything like that, but the guy can read defenses, get rid of the ball, move around enough and is accurate up to medium-range routes to be effective and win Games in the NFL.. I see him like another Matt Hasselback in a couple years time, who has had a pretty good Career and led Teams to Playoffs.
Now back to 2013 which will be about Foles or Vick.. I am hoping it’s Foles and believe he has a bright Future in the NFL
i want a qb that is insanely accurate at the short to medium throws and i wont a coach that capitalizes on those throws. fuck a deep ball.
i want a qb and offense that can impose their will on the defense week in and week out and just grind and get first downs which will lead to field position and scores… big plays are cool once or twice a game but arent necessary
I want the QB Chip Kelly wants. Once the choice is made we’ll know clearly who Chip believes is the best QB on the Philadelphia Eagles, and we all will rally behind that choice since Chip feels that QB gives his team the best shot at winning.
Agreed?
I dont know. I wont rally around Mike Vick if that is what Chip chooses because I already know where that road goes as I have been watching it, laughing at it and criticizing for over a decade. He was and never will be a good QB and I don’t think he entertaining at all like some do. I watch a Vick football game and he is watchable/likeable for maybe 5 plays a game, the rest are a disgrace.
nope if Vick is the QB I will be watching the matchup of the week on the ticket instead of the birds unless I have a paycheck on whoever the eagles are playing….
So the reason the there hasn’t been a successful USC QB in the NFL, is because they’re not slouches in college……or because their talents are taken for granted because they are the QB at a high powered football program., and surround them with even better talent to hide their limitations, at WR, OT, OG, and RB. Matt Barkley is a joke to me..
I didn’t think he was a top ten player when they thought he may come out a year earlier.
Here is something to chew on. At this time, Vick is lightyears better than Barkley, and he wouldn’t have the talent to overtake Vick if Foles wasn’t on the team. I know you hate that Paul, but it’s the truth.
Paul, if Foles is the starter, and continues to progress, by 2015, unless he gets injured, Barkley will never see the field outside preseason. Foles is the future accept it.
I say Barkley, will be hyped for a few years,based on more assumption of potential, and then used as trade bait for a draft pick or two. Will start for a team, for a year, and then be labeled as the latest USC flop; Mark Sanchez.
If Foles plays well in 2013 and Progresses nicely and the Team shows success, then of course, it’s his job to keep for the immediate future, barring an injury..
If Foles plays only so-so in 2013 and only wins 4-5 Games and doesn’t show a lot of progress, than it’s open Camp Battle for 2014, wouldn’t you think..
I am pulling for Foles as I stated at the end of last Season, I like the kid, like his potential, his calm demanor and his ability to sense and feel a rush that will only improve as he takes more snaps.. and I am really excited to see him play behind the Starters at OL, WR & RB which he wasn;t able to do last Season with all the injuries..
Remember GMCliff, I was the one who had the Eagles looking and thinking about Drafting him in the 2012 Draft run-up..
No one else had Foles on their Radar and probably most never heard of him, so I have a vested interest in seeimg him play well….
My orginal Analysis of him has not changed, Stands Tall in the Pocket, Cool in the Huddle, very accurate in the short to mid-range level, able to slide up and in the Pocket while keeping his head up and downfield… Needs — work on Overall Strength (Arm and body) and with his accuracy and timing with the Deep Ball …
I think Foles will be good in a fast pace spread offense, which is what I think Kelly will run. Along with the WCO type timing routes.
I think the entire league will be primed and ready to defend against the read option. I think Kelly knows that and he will be ready to attack with an up-tempo spread offense.
I guess we will see soon!
I know that is true about your draft evaluation about Foles. But, you wrote him off when Chip Kelly was hired, and you are in denial about that. You kept posting about a trade with the Jets for Foles, Avant, and Vinny Curry. No one thought Foles would be here…except GMCliff
Now that it looks like it is coming to fruition. Many are on Foles, but only because of their dislike for Michael Vick, and over zealousness for a subpar Matt Barkley….Just sad. If I’m wrong, I would just admit it……
My Trade Alerts about Foles is what I thought Kelly & the Eagles could or would do if Kelly didn’t feel that Foles was a good fit for his system and not what I wanted them to do Cliff.. As I stated many times, I like Foles and thing he has good upside as a Productive NFL Starter in the right System which is why i want Vick gone so that FOles can get as many reps as possible with the #1’s and be the clear #1 Starter.. Now he will have his chance to do so this SUmmer Camp..
My Trade Alerts about Foles, Maclin, Trent Cole and others were simply that.. Trade Rumors to add more entertaining discussion back at Draft Time… So it didn’t happen and Paulman was wrong again, what else is new…
LOL!!!!!!!!!! YOU JUST SOUND FUNNY BACKPEDALING. LOL!!!
What backpedaling are you talking about Cliff..
I’ve probably listed every Eagles as being part of a Trade-Alert Players..You guys crack me up and take every post as being dead serious about Trades..
Here’s what I really think and believe should happen with this 2013 Eagles Team as it is currently constructed
QB – Name Foles the Starert and Release Vick immediately to get rid of any distractions and reps from Foles and also send a strong clear message to other Veterans that the same old approach, me first, arraogance and self-denial attitude is removed from the Team moving forward
I would Trade Trent Cole, J Maclin and B Celek for I don’t believe any of them are part of the Eagles Future moving forward and I would have really tried to do this during this past Draft but since that time has come and gone, maybe unload them this Summer to Teams who are in need of quality players at this Positons and may cough up a 3rd-4th Round Picks for next years Draft
3-4 Players have this 2013 Season to prove that they are long-term Eagle Players (D-Jax, B Graham, B Brown & Nate Allen) All are still young,talented and could still have upside, but they have this Season to prove it to me and if they underachieve, then I move on from them after the 2013 Season
This is the DIrection I would take the Eagles if I was GM..
Find out who is part of the Future and mold and Coach them up,
Players who are just bad fits (Cole for example) or attitude issues (D-Jax,Vick) or just fundamentally flawed (B Brown & N Allen) .. I move away from and replace..
According to the Allentown Morning Call’s Jimmy Kempski, Nick Foles is “in the lead” of the Eagles’ quarterback derby because Foles “outplayed” Michael Vick at OTAs and minicamp.
Kempski acknowledges Vick’s superior physical tools, but reports Foles “got the ball out quicker” at spring practices, “was generally more accurate,” and put receivers in better position to rack up yards after catch. Kempski also insists Foles looks “far better” than he did last spring, even demonstrating improved velocity on intermediate and vertical throws. If Foles carries his momentum into August, the Eagles could wind up fielding far more of a traditional “pro-style” offense than anyone might’ve imagined from a Chip Kelly team.
I still say the Eaglez will RN a “Stanford Style” Offense with double TE’s, multiple backs and pound the ball more than we have seen in Philly since the array Rhodes days with Foles at the helm.. Then employ a no huddle, up tempo style every few series with a WCO Passing attack preached by OC Shurmur to mix it it up occasionally
I do not see Vick making in past Aug -1st on the Eagles Roster..
Paulman this coming from a guy who said Vick wouldn’t make it past Feb 1. Keep throwing new predictions out every week. Your so good at it. Let meask you one question. Exactly which QB ran this “Stanford” offense at Oregon? I watched a lot of Oregon football and I have never seen this great, accurate, able to read defenses QB you keep mentioning. What I did see is athletic running QBs who put up 50 points a game. Give me the name of these great QBs at Oregon that played like Foles. Foles wouldn’t even of made the Oregon dress team to be honest.
Chip Kelly is smart enough to know his Read-OPtion Offense doesn’t work in the NFL.. You can have 80 Players on your COllege Rosters and just run, out pace Opponents at the COllege Level and wear them down, but this isn’t going to happen in the NFL..
Why do I keep mentioning the “Stanford Offense” because it’s the only Team that over the last 3 Season while at Oregon that Chip Kelley could not stop or beat as Stanford pushed and manhandled Kelly’s Teams all up and down the field.. Double, Triple TE Sets, 2 Backs in the Backfield, Smash Mouth Football between the Tackles.. Lots of Screens and then some Play-Action For the Deep Ball..
Kelly is smart enough that the “Stanford Offense” is built for the NFL and had a very difficult time while at Oregon matching up and stopping it.. This Read-Option is just a ploy to break the QB’s down and have them all learn something new so he can see how they react and gauge their Preperation time and ability to Understand and Execute..
The Real Offense Package comes this Summer .. OTA’s were simply to get a look at everyone that’s working off the same page..
Why was Kelly hired? Kelly wasn’t hired based on experiments he is going to do in the NFL. Kelly was hired because he was the head coach of a high powered offensive college team and won 87 percent of his games in 4 years. Yes you’ll see less read option in the NFL, but you’ll also see the QB on the move more, pocket moving. You’ll see more quick outs, setting up deep balls on double moves. You’ll also see the RB get more touches. OTA’s coaches (especially first year coaches) like to work on things that will be a big part of what they want to do. With a win now attitude, Kelly wouldn’t be wasting his time with “ploys”. What comes this summer are the pads being put on, that’s the difference.
Jimmy who? I thought the media only got to go to like 3 practices. lol If Jimmy from the morning call says it it must be so. Give me a break. lmao. Steve from the Alaskan times said Foles is leading the race. Rex fom the Hawaiian Daily news says Foles is leading the race.Mark from the Australian Post says Foles is leading the race. Let me know what Chip says.
Foles will start, mike Vick tried, but he’s not that good, bottom line, and foles may not be that good, but I think he will be special , based on my experience, so long mike, you got another break here in Philly , but you are just not a quality NFL starter
Right on point…Chip Kelly wants to win right away…he knows who the best QB to run his system…He is going to look at who runs the read-option play that they have practiced so much in camp the best…who can get the ball deep and who is best for his running game…Mike Vick is going to win the job fair and square. Foles is a back up…bottom line!
***NFL News***
Here is a list of Quality Players who failed to reach long-term deals with their Current Teams who placed “Franchise Tags” on them, meaning most of these Players will be “Free-Agents” come next Off-Season
Safety – Jarius Byrd (Buffalo)
DT – Henry Melton (Bears)
OT – Brandon Albert (Chiefs)
DE – Anthony Spencer (Cowboys)
Punter – Pat McAfee (Colts)
One thing that has bothered me with the Eagles>com Web-Site..
Why all the Hype and Promotion about the Eagles Match-Up’s for the 2013 Season.. Hell, half these Teams will look a 100% different with new PLayers,Coaches and Schemes.. The Chargers,Chiefs Cardinals all come to mind as well as the Eagles who we don’t even know who the QB will be or what their System will be on both sides of the ball.. I can see doing some Previews, but really to fill in 2 Weeks of Information about Teams that are still trying to figure it out, just like the Eagles are, and seems to be a little foolish/premature at this time…
All I want to say is remember that I was laughed at, and labeled as unrealistic, because I said Nick Foles would still be on this team by training camp, and would rise to the top. Nick Foles…….not Matt Barkley, and not Dennis Dixon is the QB of the future for this team. Nick Foles…….The GM has spoken.
I am the one who called the Eagles to Draft Foles in the first place and wanted Vick to be gone,gone,gone so the Kid can Play.. I believe he ends up the Starter be Mid-Camp.. No surprise or news here Cliff.. but Barkley will most likely be the QB of the Future (Come 2015 or so)..
I don’t believe anyone expected or called for Dennis Dixon to be the Future QB of the Eagles. .He was simply signed to help the other QB’s get used to Kelly’s system, terminology and pace of practice’s.. He will be the 3rd String/Scout QB behind Foles & Barkley on the 2013 Eagles Roster
Straight up Cliff, Do you see Mike Vick Beating out Foles for the Starting QB for the 2013 Eagles, Do you see Mike Vick on the Eagles Roster
haha you cats fighting over Nick Foles…I picked Foles, I called for Foles…you can have that…If Foles is the starter I hope he leads this team to wins…But with that said, from what I’ve seen, the QB of the Eagles future hasn’t arrived yet. By the way Foles will not be starter come the start of this season.
great point and information as always… fuckin idiot
Mheshe…sticks and stones may break my bones…but your words are gonna make me hurt you! you stupid fuck! you aint man enough to see me in the streets and call me names to face
ur trash and a total loser realtalk. not to mention dumb as fuck and infantile
the invite still stands…meet me in the streets with that same type of trash talk…you think I need the approval of your ignorant dumb ass? if you agreed with anything I said, I’d think something was wrong with me. Real Talk.
im not a piece of shit waste of life total loser like you who acts like they are 12 years old and fights people and insults people. thats for total trash like you who have nothing to lose and dont care if they have a police record or not.
i have grown up since 7th grade and dont play those loser games that the pathetic cunts of society play like you
Nah, I’m not arguing Real. Just stating the obvious.
Real, You could be right brother. Foles may not be the starter come game one, but my point was that he is more of a player in this competition than most predicted earlier in the offseason.
No Paul, Barkley will be 3rd string behind Vick, and or Foles. Yes, I can see Vick beating out Foles. I also see Foles taking over at some point of time, if he doesn’t beat Vick outright.
Your stance on Foles was that he would be traded because he is not fleet of foot, thus he was incapable of running a read option that I also said, Kelly wouldn’t completely run, but would run an offense closer to New Englands, like he did at New Hampshire.
I don’t think Matt Barkley can play effectively at this level. Thats where I stand with him. He is just a name that many are clinging hope to. I see him as trade bait for a future draft pick.
My statements about Eafles Offense has been consistent and about their QB, they will not run much read-option so Foles and eventually Barkley’s lack of foot speed is irrelevant for they will employ a more Double/Teiple TE Sets and power run between the Tackles a lot looking very similar to the Stanford Offense.. Vick is not the answer and Cholip Kelly, Pat Shurmur and QB Coach J Lazaro all know it..
Foles is the man, which is what I’ve been hoping for..
ok then stop talking..stop provoking me…you’ve grown up but you started with the name calling…at no time did I call you out of your name…but yeah, with the shit you just said in your above post…you sound like a real mature grown up…SMH…
By the way, I only insult a select few….mainly those that insult me first…there are people on this site I don’t agree with and have had pretty “mature” convo’s with, without name calling…seems like whenever I turn around, you are in the middle of some sort of commotion. you are the consistent here…I haven’t posted in a week and what I’ve said ruffled your feathers that much, you had to start with the insults…then get mad when I defend myself…man you are out of touch…this ain’t the 1950’s anymore…you can’t go around calling people “boy” and not getting your ass whooped for it.
your pathetic and trash a liar and delusional . i dont speak with you on here because you’re an immature imbecile but i never felt the need to really tell you. but you gotta keep opening your pathetic mouth and taking shots at me like you did this morning even though i didnt say a word towards you just felt in necessary to be the pathetic individual you are and but into a conversation that had nothing to do with you. thats par the course for your pathetic, trashy self.
and you are a boy and a total loser and basically embody everything wrong with normal discussion on a sports message board and if you act like you do in here in real life or even 50% capacity than you basically embody so much wrong with society as a whole. now do something about you pyscho pathetic cunt, ill even give you my address and you can come to my house and do something about you.
you can email me at rubberluti@yahoo, ill give you my address there if you want to come to my house no problem
hahaha this cat…I only read the very last sentence in the above post.think i’m really gonna read all of what you posted, hell nah…yea I show up at your house and you”ll have me arrested as soon as I step foot on your property. I’m not dumb.
clearly you are dumb you fucking idiot its not illegal to knock on someones door. cmon tough guy nows your chance do something in the streets. you have my email address ill give you my address come and do something about it.
otherwise shut the fuck up
pathetic cuntboy troll
“im not a piece of shit waste of life total loser like you who acts like they are 12 years old and fights people and insults people”
This sentence is awesome because you insult him 3 times and then you say that you don’t insult people.
yea probably should have added for no reason at the end or something along those lines
to sum it up.
Vick is here because the coach wants to try and win now.
Coach is not thinking about 2 or 3 years from now.
Coach wants to see what he has,
Coach will tell you all later who wins.
Ok.. pretty much what the level headed people have been saying. good to know.
mhenski- Real.
Try and remember a few things….
1. Both are eagles fans.
2. Both enjoy the sport
3. Both made in the image of God.
I poke fun here and there too but settle down. 1 of you needs thinker skin and the other should take meds. Try and relax a little.
its a good point steve, noted and i realize that on my own. ill try for the sake of the other posters here.
Boy, Camp can’t come quick enough… We will all have our Answers come Camp Season, Who looks good and who is struggling, etc.. We will see and learn more about what System the Eagles Offense and Defense will employ and
which Players best fit these new Schemes..
My 3 Camp Surprises are as Follows
WR/Scat Back Rusell Shepard…
LB – Emmanuel Acho
C/Guard – Matt Tennant
DL – Geathers
Players in their Final Eagles Camp are
Trent Cole, Phillip Hunt, A Dixon, J Chaney, K Coleman, T Herremans, J Maclin,
B Brown, M Vick, D Ryans, C Marsh, K Phillips, C Polk, D Reynolds, J vandevelde, D Watkins…
Players who will Struggle and not make an Impact
Eagles signed Stony Brook OT Michael Bamiro.
Bamiro was ruled ineligible for his senior season, and therefore last week’s Supplemental Draft. A 6-foot-8, 338-pound behemoth, Bamiro was considered a fourth-round prospect by NFL.com’s Gil Brandt. He played right tackle for Stony Brook. A plus athlete with long 36 1/8-inch arms, Bamiro is an intriguing fit for coach Chip Kelly’s high-octane offense on paper, but will be up against it to earn a roster spot in camp.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he made the team, and replaced Lane Johnson at RT. Johnson isn’t a LT either. He is a RT PROJECT………..
and Brandon Graham……….
Not Bryce Brown, or Maclin
Maclin is a goner if Free-Agency after 2013 and wants to get out of Philly and play closer to home.. See the Rams/Chiefs & Vikings or even the Bears
going after him next Off-Season
Bryce Brown will continue to have ball security issues and see limited action in 2013 and be activated for many games and will be released after the Season, he’s a Talented runner but will have a problem grasping Kelly’s system and fumbling and blocking which earns him in Kelly’s Dog House early on..
Paul, you know you my homie, but you haven’t been right yet in any of your predictions good brother; from Donahue, Vick, Foles, DeSean, Cole,
Kellys Philosophy in terms of the read option, Mardy Gilyard, Celek, etc…
Bryce Brown has had nothing bad said about him all off season, and Maclic, I think if they were going to get rid of him it would be when they could get something back for him. Like auhhhhh,…. this past draft.
Those two will be fine. But you can add Brandon Graham to your list off last year players as well.
Cliff,
I am not saying the Eagles want to get rid of Maclin,
It’s Maclin that want’s out of Philly and will leave via “Free-Agency”
Bryce Brown a 1-Year Wonder with 2 huge Games versus the worst Run Defenses in the NFL last Season (Cowboys whose LB Corp was injured and the Panthers who struggled stopping the Run all Year)
As far as Eagles not moving on from Vick,D-Jax and Cole is the Eagles Problem and not mine, neither of the 3 have a Future in Philly beyond this Season and Eagles missed the boat on getting anything in Return on them while they could have…
I will continue to call them as I see them Gmcliff…
My man…….BUT DeSean, and Bryce both will be here next year unless they are used a pawns to help move up to draft Clowney.
god i hate desean, he is such an idiot
DeSean’s verse:
I got them diamonds on my neck and they straight for my D-boys/
I ride around with that Eagle but it’s 10 tho no fever/
The ice cold receiver got them money banks like I’m freezing/
Them cold nights and them sunny days but that Jaccpot movement got me buzzin/
Cause I’m paid and my money straight, west coast first but I been ablaze/
That young boy on that gold dime(?) money stupid that’s an overflow/
Had no idea a new DeSean Jackson music video dropped earlier this month. Better late than never, I guess. Time to break down the lyrics of Jaccpot’s verseRapGenius style.
I got them diamonds on my neck and they straight for my D-boys/
DeSean wears diamond chains and does so to represent his friends who sell drugs.
I ride around with that Eagle but it’s 10 tho no fever/
DeSean often drives with a Desert Eagle pistol even when it’s only 10 degrees outside. But no worries, the weather has no effect on his health. This is also a double meaning since he’s #10 for the Philadelphia Eagles.
The ice cold receiver got them money banks like I’m freezing/
DeSean — an NFL wide receiver — isn’t one for emotions. He also has lots of cash.
Them cold nights and them sunny days but that Jaccpot movement got me buzzin/
Mr. Jackson is very much accustomed to the weather patterns of Southern California and never allows it to get in the way of drinking and doing drugs with his music label companions.
Cause I’m paid and my money straight, west coast first but I been ablaze/
His financial situation is very secure. And although his professional life centers around the mid-Atlantic region, he always stays true to his hometown while remaining successful and culturally relevant.
That young boy on that gold dime(?) money stupid that’s an overflow/
Hard to hear exactly what was said, but it undoubtedly concerns the prolific nature of his funds.
Only a matter of time before #10 signs with Roc Sports and Jay-Z features him on his next album, right. …Right?
D-Jax & B Brown will be Eagles for 2013, but my statement above is that they will be gone after the 2013 Season.
D-Jax’s contract is back loaded with $13 & $15 million due in 2014 & 2015 and for a 45-50 Receptions a Year and 2-3 TD Receptions, a Poor Attitude, the Eagles are going to replace that mediocre productions between Danarius Johnson and Russell Shepard
B Brown was a 1 Hit wonder who had a couple of strong games and is easily repaceable due to his fumblitis and lack of blocking..
RB’s and WR are a dime a dozen in Kelly’s Scheme..
his Production
@Mhenski, why do you hate DJax because he’s a successful football player or because he started a record label and raps in his free time or he started foundations to help bullied kids and cancer survivors? I don’t get it what makes him an idiot? Has he ever been in off the field trouble?
we will see right?…..Like I said before, I know how smart you are, I even put you on a pedestal, but you haven’t been right in these prediction for sometime….I say the streak continues.
Whats up Biggie!!? Do you honestly think that if he has a break out year, and they can utilize DeSean to their benefit, that they would honestly get rid of him?
Paul has already said Maclin won’t be here next year, so they will train two new components at that position next year? That doesn’t make any sense to me.
News Flash…….Russell Sheppard may not even make this team. What would make anybody think he is going to replace anybody on this team at WR? They have already had thoughts of making him a CB, so perhaps they already don’t even see him as a WR.
Yea big that’s exactly why I think he is an idiot. I hate people who have bully and cancer foundations, hate people that rap in their free time and especially hate successful football players they really chap my ass
Remember that Kelly doesn’t Value smallish, one-trick Pony WR’s like AR did.. Kelly likes bigger, more physical WR’s who can block, catch in traffic and over the middle and make Yards after the Catch on the shorter Passing Routes..
Hence the trading for A Benn (6-2 220lbs) and the signing of WR’s I Momah (6-7 239lbs) R Sheppard (6-1 198lbs) , BJ Cunningham (6-2 215lbs) Greg Salas (6-2 210lbs) & Will Murphy (6-2 200lbs) etc,etc..
LOL!!! There is a realistic chance that NONE, of those mentioned will even make the team.
I guess the small guy De’Anthony Thomas, that was scoring like crazy at Oregon that he used wasn’t appreciated, because he was small at 5-7 172 lbs?
Correction on D-Jax’s Salary for remainder of his Contract
2014 – $12.5 Million
2015 – $12 Million
2016 – $10 Million
None of this is Guaranteed $$ for he got that up front last Year when he signed his Deal
I don’t know Paul…
I hear that Chip Kelly laid his hands on the forehead of Michael Vick and cured him of his fumblitis… At least that’s Vick’s story.
Maybe if Kelly likes Bryce Brown he can perform the same miracle him… Let’s face it, Brown’s butterfingers issues can’t be as severe as Vick’s and Chip kept him around.
Right now I see Vick, Foles, and Barkley all getting starts (whether for injury reasons or poor play). I think Vick gets the start at the beginning of the season just because of the money. Find me a QB in the league that makes 10 times what the others make on the team who doesn’t start the season. Its just common sense. BUt anyways I see Foles replacing Vick sooner rather than later. Then if Foles sucks it up, I see Barkley getting a few starts at the end of the year.
Btw I am a fan of Manziels game but I dont think the dude is mature enough to handle the responsibilities of an NFL team, maybe for a team like San Diego or Jax where they don’t have real fans. But in Philly I would have serious doubts. The guy has done nothing but win and play great on the field. But clearly the nature of the NFL is different. I just cant see the dude putting in the time off the field, where it counts most for a QB.
cyaaaaaaaaaaaaa. i sense the coach distancing himself already
Coach Chip Kelly referred to quarterback mobility as merely an “added bonus.”
Many thought Kelly’s offense required a highly athletic quarterback, but that theory went out the window when he drafted Matt Barkley. “If the fact they have the ability to run, I believe that’s an added bonus, but that’s not the precursor to what we do,” he said. If Michael Vick is going to win the starting job during training camp, he’s going to have to show accuracy and quality decision-making. Those have been two of his biggest problem areas over the last two seasons.
Kelly said. “We’ve said it since day one. I want the quarterback that has the ability to run. I do not want a running back that can throw. We’ve never been that type of offense, and I think that’s a misconception.”
News Flash – In an interview today, DeSean Jackson predicted Michael Vick will be the starter. Jackson sited Vick’s 12 years of experience as being the determining factor.
“In my opinion, honestly, I don’t want to be put on the spot. I know y’all gonna do me like that, but Michael Vick’s got a lot of confidence in himself,” Jackson told ESPN (via Phillymag.com). “He’s been there, going on 12 years in the NFL. I think he’ll get the job.”
Makes sense to me – a 33 year-old to start on a re-building team…
Stephen A. Smith: You have some people that have said they’ve got the Philadelphia Eagles being last place in the NFC East. What are your thoughts about that?”
DeSean Jackson: That’s discouraging, honestly. The Philadelphia Eagles we’re still a Top 5 team in the NFL if you ask me so regardless of what everybody else say we’re gonna go out there and get it done this year.
Stephen A: You said top 5 team in the NFL?
DeSean: Top 5. I said it. I said top 5. Ya’ll could keep us at 28th or– I’ma say it with my chest sticking out and everything.”
Skip Bayless: In the NFL?
DeSean: Top 5 in the NFL.
Skip: That means you could win the NFC?
DeSean: In a year we should be able to, you know?
Like I said dudes an idiot
@gmcliff good seeing you back on the boards, DJax will be here next year and the year after he’ll flourish in Kelly’s offense. @mhenski so he expects his team to be top 5 in the league and that makes him an idiot? Come on man you can do better than that, but it you don’t like him your entitled to that. I guess he was supposed to say we’re rebuilding so I expect to lose. Would that have smartened him up in your eyes?
a smart player wouldve said something along the lines of we have a lot of new talent, new coaching staff and new schemes. i think the future is bright and with a lot of hard work we could be a very successful team in the near future… he needs work on what he says and how he says it.
his comments about being top 5 is just dumb, 1 because its unrealistic and 2 because he should have learned from the dream team talk… national nfl commentators are already laughing at him saying i think he meant top five in the nfc east, i think he got the definition of top and bottom mixed up…
just idiotic banter coming from an idiot
Whats up Brother. I never left. The topics for conversation, only lead to repetitive comment that I choose not to give weight to.
But I’m always here baby 🙂
No way the Eagles pay Djax 12.5 million in 2014, esp when none of it is guaranteed. Even if he plays well this year, he misses to many games with injury. I see the Eagles asking him to restructure if anything, which I doubt he does. I think they extend Maclin at some point tho. He is not getting big money out there, he knows it, his agent knows it, and the Eagles know it. Seriously, if you are Maclin what bargaining power do you have? The Eagles will come to an agreement with him as they do with most of their young talents in the mid 20s. If he blows up this year, I could see them franchising him.
Hmmm 12.5, I guess I see a pay cut in his future.
I wonder how many years they’ll extend Vick if he gets back to pro bowl level this year?
33 is fairly young for a QB so they’ll probably give him a 2-3 year deal back loaded.
Songs, 33 is not old for a pocket passing quarterback. If Vick makes it back to the pro bowl it will be his legs that get him there. He will be 34 in the first year of any extended contract.
I have a feeling Vick will breakdown early in the season, and you will be a Redskins fan again by December…