Something is not being spoken. Vick has stated that he is not ready to play due to injury. Why would Vick make such a declaration with all that has transpired over the last six quarters?
Last year on his contract, not getting any younger, I’m having difficulty absorbing this message as words only portrayed by Vick. He may not be able to run like he wants to, or is it that he feels like he needs to be able to run because he can’t win as a pocket passer.
There has to be more, someone or several people have met and discussed with Michael that the team wants to see another week of Foles. Vick has been convinced that nobody will question his will or determination, and the injury is justifiable. Vick’s statement yesterday felt political to me, the timing was off. Vick appeared differently to me when relaying it to the media.
I’ve witnessed Vick in severe pain, stagger around the battlefield like a warrior determined to defeat his enemy. Vick has been straight forward during his tenure with the Eagles both as a player and throughout his rehabilitation as a human being off the field.
There is something about the way Vick delivered the message about the injury. I can’t pinpoint if it was the look in his eyes, or the way his words were spoken. Maybe it’s just me, but maybe others had that same awkward gut feeling that I received.
I look at how the Cowboys play defense, blitzing only 20% of the time and playing a modified version of a cover 2. They could be without the services of Ware, and their secondary was torched by Manning two weeks ago.
This game is against the Dallas Cowboys, Michael is aware of the rivalry. Vick knows how long it’s been since the Eagles last won a home game. He was also the man who helped lead our team to victory over a year ago at Lincoln Financial Field.
With all that is on the line, with the matchup being favorable for Vick even with the injury; why come out and declare himself ineligible to play on a Tuesday? Who got in your ear Michael? Are you just being a good teammate and putting the team in the best situation to win?
I know you have matured and I appreciate that, but there is something that you are not telling us.
I stated last week that his upper thigh pull is more severe
Than many thought and that it could be a good 2-3 Week rehab time
Before getting to 90-100% health..
He is provably playing it safe, dince the Team and Foles are playing well without him thus far and have Won back to back Games for the first time in over a year.. He is going to do right and say the right things for the Team that has given him his last opportunity to play and pay for his services..
Maybe the fire has gone lower in his belly, maybe there is another injury going on that we don’t know about or maybe Coach Kelky told him to put his good teammate face on and to fall in line for Foles and the Team sake..
This will play out by next week after this Cowboy game based on how the steam and Foles plays and of course how Vick feel’s..
Then the difficult decision will need to be made about Vick’s status as the Starter moving forward, when The Team is winning, it’s easy to keep these type of things quiet for everyone is upbeat on the task at hand, when Teams are losing and players aren’t playing, then things and locker from can get ugly
If Eagłes beat Dalkas and grab 1st Place by themselves with Foles leading them to their 3rd Win a row, it would be very difficult to go back to Vick, regardless of his heatlthy.. All along, Coach Kelly has said numerous times that he’s in this to Win now and how can then go back against a QB who has led your Team to 3 Wins in a row and First Place in the NFC East..
The Torch is being handed to Foles and this week and game will determine the fate and playing status of Vick for not only this Season but for his Career as well..
Vick is just too fragile – entertaining because every big play has an equal and opposite turnover sack play but can’t trust his weak body as a starter. Father time is knocking, I mean pounding on his door
Leave him on the bench I say. I mean come on already what’s the point?
Paulman rumor mill says Vick hurt his ass when songs head got lodged to far up it. Says it took two Eagles not doing much this year Trent Cole and Sopango to extract songs head from Vicks ass…..More to come
Also the same source stated,that Songs was fired from RGIII Propaganda Fan Group for the Philly Region… Songs having a Rough Week ….
songs’ boy Vontaze looks like a primer NFL player so he has that going for him
Burfict went to a Perfect Situation with Defensive Minded HC Lewis and DC David Zimmer and some Veterans who took Burfict under their wings to keep him on the straight and narrow and Burfict has stepped up and embraced the challenged ..
If he came to Philly which was very undiscplined the las tcouple of Seasons under Coach AR, had 3-4-5 differenct Voices on the Defensivle Side of the ball with very little Leadership he probably would have fallen back into his troubles ways…
No one ever doubted Vontaze Burfict Talent and Abilitiy, but many times, it comes down to getting on the right Team at the Right time for PLayers to shine and my hat’s off to Burfict for he has proven me wrong big time, but I do believe that the Bengals Situation was one of the few Teams he could have went to and succeeded both on and off the Field.. Philly Media would have been hounding this guy about his past all the time..
His name is Mike Zimmer… lol
Duly noted for the record Irish…thanks for the Correction
No question E0S, Fraudsongs did get that one right. I don’t know if he would have had the same success here, given the questionable coaching that we have had on the defensive side, but there is no doubt that every team in the league made the same mistake seeing that he went undrafted. If you watch “HardKnocks” on HBO at all you can see that Lewis has taken the kid under his wing and they pay very close attention to his attitude and actions on and off the field. He is a good player, and songs was one of his most vocal supporters, no doubt.
He didn’t get $#!t right! He wanted the Eagles to draft him in the 1st round. Dude is a bandwagon hopping, fraud, racist, troll.
LaDainian Tomlinson and Deuce McAllister, and all the RBs from Vick’s draft year are in retirement from the beatings they took.
At Vick’s age it was foolhardy to think that he could increase his rushing attempts. It was time for him to transform into a pocket passer – instead Kelly took him in the other direction and Vick went along.
That being said, I still think he will get his job back when he’s healthy. I don’t know that he will keep it very long.
Huh?
Vick is injured. He’s bummed that he’s injured and can’t play. And it’s likely worse than he previously thought. This is a guy who will play hurt…but that isn’t a good thing, for him or the team. There’s no Orwellian mystery to it. He’s a competitor. He wants to play. And he’s bummed that he can’t. Simple.
happens all the time with vets in the nfl where the player is trying to protect his career with the help of eagles PR. t
And when he is healthy, he can’t play. Yes, big surprise, Vick is hurt, AGAIN, & can’t play. Keep up his defense, it’s amusing, to say the least.
“With all that is on the line, with the matchup being favorable for Vick even with the injury; why come out and declare himself ineligible to play on a Tuesday?”
You’re missing that he can’t run. He has no burst…he’s a gimp. So while maybe other QBs might be able to play with the injury, he definitely can’t. That’s half his game gone right there.
take away his legs and vick is one of the worst qbs in football if not the worst
No, that’s all his game is gone, right there! He ain’t a good QB, never was, never will be. He’s an old, injury prone, overrated bum, that ain’t ever won, nor did $#!T!
53% passing this year in a passing league….53% Thats early to mid 80’s numbers before the rule changes…you can’t spin that number its really really bad…even lower than his 56% for his career. Without his wheels he is no threat except fot the long bomb to desean..
that has got to be one of the dumbest comments posted on GCobb..coming from one of the dumbest football fans on earth! Vick can only throw deep passes that is asinine…Yes his completion percentage isn’t where it needs to be this year…but guess what, before he went out the Eagles offense still was ranked 2nd in the league in total offense and 8th in scoring points…again, only looking at stats that benefit your agenda! incapable of being unbiased!
Shut up troll….dummie…imbecile…I think I got all your titles…Oh yeah Dumbass…..I said passing stats…no threat without his wheels…Dumbass still clueless about 12 years of nothing. My agenda is to win fraudtalk….Something you delude yourself into think 7 is…Go run in front of the #7 train…If its anything like Vick it will break down before it hits you.
Imbecile? oooo wow, I see you learned a new word today…Again, you are one closed minded little bitch! If you agenda is to win games, then you’ll realize that Vick and the Eagles offense scored points, and had the defense stepped up, the Eagles may have a better record because of it….you’re an Eagles fan as long as Vick isn’t leading the way…Realtalk!
Me, I’ll be rooting for this Eagles team this weekend no matter what!
again your dumbass plays semantics…your a real fraud. I stated without his wheels but your so out to just defend your hero you dont even read. You have been wrong in everything so far so why stop now. Im an eagles fan whomever leads the way fraudtalk….your an idiot a troll and a racebaiter…go play with yourself to your vick poster….Idiot
lmfao
oo alarming now to talk about
Take your pictures down and shake it out
Truth or consequence, say it aloud
Use that evidence, race it around
There goes my hero
Watch him as he goes
There goes my hero
He’s ordinary
Don’t the best of them bleed it out
While the rest of them peter out
Truth or consequence, say it aloud
Use that evidence, race it around
There goes my hero
Watch him as he goes
There goes my hero
He’s ordinary
Kudos, my hero
Leaving all the best
You know my hero
The one that’s on
There goes my hero
Watch him as he goes
There goes my hero
He’s ordinary
There goes my hero
Watch him as he goes
There goes my hero
He’s ordinary
awww look at the little kiddy rhyme….
It’s actually a pretty well played song by the Foo Fighters.
He wouldn’t know that regal he’s just a dumbass
LOL!!! CLASSIC!!!!
5th in 3rd down conversions
2nd in offense
8th in points
Don’t even bother…facts matter very little to these guys.
Facts are, Vick sucks, is old, injury prone, should have never been brought back, & you are the President of HIS fan club, not the Eagles. Those are the facts, Sis. Sorry, just saying….
and he lked his team to a 1-3 Record which is all that really matters at the end of the Day… Foles has led th Eagles to 2 Wins in a Row which hasn’t occured for over a Calender Year, so go with the hot hand, regardless of Vick’s injury, if your goal is to win now as Coach Kelly has said all along
I have 12 years of facts backing me up…and 53% isn’t gonna get it done. Let’s also be honest about the points scored 16 against the chiefs and 13 against the Bronco’s. Can’t take a damn thing away from him against SD. Not gonna sit here and say Foles is Brady, but he is putting RZ td’s Up..So to be fair Foles sample needs to be another 3 games to compare equally.
In the NFL
there are running QBs…
There are old QBs ( > 33)…
But there are no old running QBs
Keep the young guy in there
Okay…okay….. you guys are going to send one of our Vick lovers to the gas pipe!
Skyne would already be gone if he could fit his head in the oven….. lol
Last week it was, “I can play if I have to”
Then Foles goes out an plays like only Vick can dream of.
And suddenly he can’t play. As I said right after the game, look for thi injury to linger ( like the concussion last year) for a long time now.
Happens with many vets. It’s the “saving face” injury. Better than just announcing “whoops-made a mistake, the kid is a lot better than our superstar”
Makes the transition easier. Less embarrassing for everyone involved, especially ole Ronny Mexico
No doubt nick seals it with a plus performance against the cowboys. And ur absolutely right about the saving face comment. Clearly that’s what they are doing. Nick and mike had a joint press conference today, check it out. Sounds like mike knows he is close to cooked
“Then Foles goes out an plays like only Vick can dream of.”
Funny…468 yards of offense and 3 touchdowns.
Yeah…
Didn’t he run one in?
Funny how that matters when you count Vick’s TDs, but mysteriously disappear when you mention Foles.
Strange that.
Dear Vinnie the Welcher… this comment will come back to bite you… just letting you know…
You guys are brutal, out of line, elevate yourselves, Vick never was a ood qb, he was put in a position he was because of ownerships avarice, even after a felony conviction, he was still marketable, if it weren’t Vick do you think he would have been resigned, do you think there old even be a qb controversies if someone other than Vick was potentially on the losing end
But vick is a man, a good man, just manipulated by ownership, get angry at that scum bag Lurie, not the innocent and understandable hero worshippers like real talk, TS Johnson, et. al, they are the reason Vick still has a job
No doubt. Mike Vick is done. sorry lurie. if you want to win it’s Nick.
Vicks last great game ? Washington on a Monday night years ago.vicks career is in the rear view mirror,this is a what have you done for me now? League.last year to be fair ,he had no offensive line ,but he did have maclin ,a sleepwalker in Djax,a coach with one foot out the door and a genius at offensive coordinator..let lying dogs lie….the guy rehabilitated himself ,has effectively been paid millions ,and now he must subjugate his role to a young gun who stands 6ft 6 ,who seemingly surveys,the entire field ..he hit I believe 8different receivers,that alone is a testimonial to his awareness of the complete offense.Chip would prefer a running option signal caller ,but he to must yield to conform to what he has …nick foles beat his ass at Arizona ,RESPECT ..let us all than Vick for the highlights ,but let’s be real ,the future is today.No matter what happens if foles proves he’s the guy ,we can concentrate on the defensive side of the ball in the draft,If he’s grading out weekly ,ad getting a freaking win at home ,last time that happened we all had darker hair on our heads and more of it…let the controversy be put to rest ..Vicks play vs nicks play is as much a contrast as the results on the field .Foles takes care of the ball ,doesn’t take massive kill shots and you can mark him as a dependable work in progress..his best is yet to come …beat the stinking cowgirls ,and mike who? Will be the norm.
Foles played Oregon 3times 1160 yes and 10 touchdowns…chip keenly was quoted we hit the hell out of this kid ,and he kept coming.hes tough as he’ll,he even completed a pass left handed…sounds to me like chip had his man ,all along and if given the truth serum,he’d tell you ,it’s one reason he took the Eale job.
The staff knew damn well they had to come out of the gate with Vick,knowing his odds of finishing upright were slim and none..it made perfect sense ,now taht the window and door is ajar ,nick will kick it in…watch and enjoy ,there’s a new sheriff in town ..
Those are damn great posts deseert eagle all accurate except for your statement that the last time eagles won we all had darker hair on our heads and more of it
Jakedog still rocking full head of luscious locks , beautiful light brown and long ala fabio style
Ala, Joe Dirt style you mean. LOL!
8D
believe me…we’ll get the Nick Foles reality this weekend.
He beat a pathetic Bucs team again and came in against the awful Giants and lost a 2 possession lead before coming back.
This game tells us what we need to know about Nick Foles.
Go away troll, you have ZERO credibility, & your comments mean squat! Go root for the Redskins, I mean the Sea Hawks, I mean the 49ers. Get lost you fraud!
I won’t ever question a player’s injury, football is a brutal sport where players already force themselves to stay on the field, protecting their job from the taker. The thing that was difficult for m to digest was the upfront Tuesday announcement, by Vick, and not the coaching stating the QB update. The focus is on Nick, not what he needs to do to keep the “starting” job, but week 7, versus the Cowboys. Have I hinted that I have a hatred so vile for the Cowboys, I want the “W” on Sunday, and Foles is going to get that W. Besides som fill-ins when our starters got injured, us fans have seen more of the athletic QB with Randall, McNabb, Vick and even a sprinkle of Garcia. Shoot….Koy would grab a few yards on the ground…it wasn’t pretty, but neither was that neck beard. This season has had so many storylines, but one thing I can say, Chip and company have done a really nice job in-house to keep the players on the same page, and not letting turmoil create separation in the locker room. Let’s go baby……lets put it to the Cowgirls…body-bags anyone?
Sounds good to me. Toe tags anyone? >8D
Just root for the Eagles dude, regardless of the QB. If you are a Redskins, Seahawks or 49ers fan then why are you trolling on an Eagles forum site. We have seen the Mike Vick experience, no redzone production, 1-9 in last 10 starts. I’m not one to get into the QB debate, but, he hasn’t exactly gotten us to the playoffs or a winning record either. Statistically speaking, Vick blows!
Let’s make this clear….I’m an Eagles fan and will always point to why we can’t win a championship, until we win one.
Right now, Foles have done nothing to show he’s a player in this league and when he got the opportunity last year he failed.
Now, we’re in the same place with everyone claiming he’s the next Brady after beating a pathetic, winless Bucs team.
Last I check the Giants and Bucs are winless, so I’m not buying it. He even came in the game when Vick went down and lost a two score lead before rallying against the Giants.
This Cowboys game will give me what I need to see.
If he make the Cowboys look like the Bucs or Giants then I’ll be the first to say he should stay over Vick, but if he stinks and the Cowgirls come in our house and totally embarrass the team then I don’t want to hear a damn thing about Foles going forward.
So, I’ll hold my thoughts until reality hits this Sunday.
BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!
You quit on this team last year and declared your devotion to the Redskins.
Do you think that we don’t remember? You laughed at all of us Eagles fans…told us what losers we were….described how you had bought your family RGIII jerseys…..DO YOU THINK WE WOULD JUST FORGET ???
You are a FRAUD. You and NOT AN EAGLES FAN. You love Michael Vick. You rail against any remote criticism of Vick, and as soon as he retires I am sure that we will never see you comment on this board again. And as far as I am concerned, the day that you never post on this board again cannot come too soon.
Go away you TROLL….you FRAUD….you REDSKINS FAN….you LOSER….GO AWAY
BRAVO GREENFAN!!!! And 100% accurate. My disgust with songs is equal to yours. He’s a fraud and Vick is all he cares about.
hey songs when you say
“Everyone claiming he’s the next Brady after beating a pathetic, winless Bucs team”
Can you please list your definition of everyone? Also please give at least 5 names of actual people who comprise this “everyone” list.
Lol the best part of his post was
“Right now, Foles have done nothing to show he’s a player in this league and when he got the opportunity last year he failed.”
Yeah Players in their 7th start usually look like that…Also Foles gets 6 games with a depleted offense last year but Vick gets yet another shot….Let me make this clear, Vick is not a bad guy, he just isn’t a good QB and his Cult make it unbearable at times.
Yeah, really! Who the f^#@ ever compared him to Brady? Nobody on here. He’s just a racist, troll, fraud. It’s just another one of his conspiracy theories. Next, he’ll blame it on the Government giving us too many vaccine shots, alien abductions, or the secret societies, for why we like Foles over Vick. Goofy, sick, f^#@! Ate too many lead paint chips as a child, or was a crack baby. GTFO!
You are a fraud, troll, racist, bandwagon jumping, front running, hypocritical, liar! That’s what you are! Let’s not forget, that you gave your allegiance to the Foreskis last year, when the Birds were out of it, & it looked like Vick was done. Then when they were eliminated, you were a Seahawk fan. Then when they were eliminated, you were a 49ers fan. Then when we brought back Vick, you miraculously became an Eagles fan again! GTFO, with your insane BS! You’re one of the biggest piles of steaming crap on this site! We know it, & you know it!
LMAO! Tell him how you really feel.
Ehl, gotta call it as it is. I’m as brutally honest, as they come. Some people may not like it, but it is, what it is.
Last 6 starts ( and a half )
65% 1800+ yards 11 Tds 2 ints
Go root for someone else if you thinks that’s ” nothing”
Right now, Foles have done nothing to show he’s a player in this league
Tell that to the experts at the NFL offices who named Foles the “NFC Player of the Week”. They seem to think Foles is a player in this league…
Last week all the Foles haters (like you) were talking about a real defense with great defensive backs like Darrelle Revis and Dashon Goldson were going to shut Foles down…
Hahahaha! Well that didn’t take long..lol..
Happy Friday! Go EAGLES!!!
Songs put your fucking pigs nose on and curl up in your bed with its pink sheets,pigs Ina blanket…you exhibit zero credibility,as last year ,without an offensive coordinator Marty ,a coach ,no offensive line ,and a wide 9 defense ,that wowed nobody..using that as a criteria or basis for evaluation is as stupid as you …foles didn’t turn the ball over ,so how do you find him to blame for blowing a lead? Perhaps the defense which is a new scheme ? You fucking idiot…the only songs you sing are the Blues…
***NFL Rumor’s***
Eagles and Texans talking Trade …. Eagles send QB Vick, TE Casey & their 2014 4th Round Draft Pick to the Texans for a 2014 2nd Round Pick & Safety DJ Swearinger …
Songs is picking up fellow Poster, TS Johson, and they are taking a Greyhound Bus down to Houston together to cheer their Man on for the rest of the Season.. Vick,Songs & TS Johnson, lived Happily ever after…
another paulman rumor that will never happen nor has any truth to it.
why do you post these made up by you rumors?
Because they’re funny, & he has a twisted sense of humor. Some of you crackpots, take him too seriously, & get all wound up for no reason. Laugh, he’s a f^#@ing riot! Why so serious (Joker voice)????
I support this and Paulman. Paulman always makes me laugh.
Paulman gets it right sometimes
About two years back he predicted that during pregame when the birds ran out on the field, Andy Reid got his feet tied up with the anchor rope on those big blow up football players
No one could move his fat ass, both teams tried, trent cole blew out his back trying to help his coach, now almost in full cardiac arrest, so they called in special forces via air command, cut him free, and air lifted him by army black hawk out of the Linc accompanied by thunderous ovation, Andy lying prone on the elephant stretcher and giving the crowd the thumb’s up as he was whisked into the air
No one ever heard from Reid again, but was spotted eating barbecue somewhere in Kansas city
That’s how paulman reported it, and indeed he got it right, good job paulman
And reidcwas last spotted eating barbecue in Kansas
Nice memory Jake, I have to admit, that was one of my better calls and funny one too… Ha
I though I read some stupid stuff on here, but to suggest that foles hasn’t shown anything is beyond ignorant, criticizing him for giving up the lead in the giants gam,thats about as stupid as it gets, criticizing his arm strength , all nonsense, stupidity, divisiveness, agenda
Everyone should follow the example set by Foles and Vick at their joint press conference, the mutual respect, admiration is real, palpable, and it should put an end to this overvthevtop Vick bashing
Vick has done everything the eagles expected of him, except win, play the position on a consistent position, not for lack of effort, he’s just not that good
Songs, as probably your last and only friend on this site, I am directing you to stfu , stop with bias, agenda, anger, you are better than that
No he isn’t. He’s a POS!
Songs is funny. I enjoy reading his posts. So what if he prefers to see black people succeed more than white people in sports. Songs isn’t suppressing anyone’s pursuit of happiness here.
Seriously. What happened to cheering THE EAGLES!!! I can’t believe a name in the back is dividing the fan base. I don’t care who is the QB. I just wanna win. Stop being so damn negative. Because guess what? If Foles get hurt lord forbid. Vick will be right back in. You gonna boo the birds? I don’t think so. So STFU BEAT DALLAS AND ENJOY THE RIDE
YES!!!! EAGLES!!!!
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Foles and Vick look like lovers. Ive never seen a press conference with so much love.lol. All the love in that room was nauseating. Then when Foles put his arm around Vick and Vick said we will do press conferences together from now on was very curious. To top it off it looked like Foles was the Alpha in the relationship. SMH. But all joking aside we are behind you Nick! Its your team now lets get it!
That was one strange press conference, mutt and Jeff
lmao @ Songs being called a troll.
What do you little bitches who turn every thread into a referedum about Vick think you are? You bitches start these threads; repeat ad nauseum how horrible Vick is -whether a player or person-; then when another fan calls you on this obsessive derangement you call them Vick lovers/apologist. Newsflash!! The so called apologist opinions of Vick are in line with the new coach who made it clear he wanted him. This new coach held an open competition and when Foles failed to when it you simpletons double-downed on your demented obsession.
I’m convinced that if Vick comes back and continues his success, many of you will lose what little minds you have left. How the fuck has DEFLECTING obsessive hatred become a lover or apologist is some serious propaganda.
And as long as the resident ALL MY POST ARE BITCHING ABOUT VICK bet welcher Vinnie is still welcome by you bitches; you can go fuck yourselves.
lol. Dead on. Ive been crying about FS’s, CB’s LB’s and a need for a new coach on this site for 5 years and its always drowned out by cries of qb.. qb.. qb..
I was Fine with McNabb, Fine with Vick, Not fine with noodle arm Dallas fan (although I tried for like 2 weeks) and Im fine with Foles… because in the end… it doesnt matter if we cant get a D to stop the other team.
The losers on this site cried that Vick cant stop turning the ball over… poof…. we use the run game and boom…. it got better.
Vinnie lost a bet….. because he’s dumb… and you guys wave pom poms for him as your champion. Stupid stupid people. I miss the days when we talked about football.
Good passionate post cold brew, a lot if wisdom in your post