Nick Foles is off to one of the best four-game quarterback streaks in NFL history. He has thrown 16 touchdowns to zero interceptions. He needs just four more touchdowns to tie Peyton Manning’s record of most touchdowns thrown before his first pick (which was also set this season).
No question about it, Foles is putting up elite numbers. But do I see an elite quarterback in Foles? No.
What I see in Foles is a quarterback who is very good, who deserves to start in this league, but will not be one of the best to play his position.
Players like Foles, backups who shine when the starter goes down, are often thought of in extremes.
Some will see Foles and see the next Tom Brady, a sixth round pick who is now one of the best to play the game. Others see Foles and fear the next Matt Flynn, a player who after an astounding five touchdown game was awarded two lucrative contracts and couldn’t make it out of training camp.
Personally, I see someone who is more in the middle. Foles will be a player more along the lines of Matt Schaub or Alex Smith.
Foles is playing great football, but there are really very few things that he does exceptionally well.
He does not have elite arm strength, deadly accuracy, and certainly not good mobility. And while he releases the ball quicker than Vick (which may not be hard to do), that is to be expected of a pocket passer.
What Foles does do well is protect the football. His zero interceptions is no fluke. Foles rarely throws risky passes and is taking what the defense gives him.
He’s been getting a lot of help from poor defensive efforts as well. Blown coverages and poor safety play have left players like Riley Cooper open for Foles and he has been taking advantage.
In Oakland, he was helped out by cornerback D.J. Hayden’s terrible performance. Against the Packers, Foles was also lucky, underthrowing DeSean Jackson on what should have been an interception.
Right now, Foles’ strategy of taking what the defense gives is resulting in production, but when opposing defenses tighten up he will be more limited.
The upside to this playing style is that Foles will never directly lose you a football game. The downside is he can’t be expected to throw bullets like Vick and McNabb did, or thread the needle like Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees.
Still, if Foles is Schaub, he may be worth investing in long-term. In the current NFL, having a serviceable quarterback is a must and if you can have a quarterback who limits mistakes you should capitalize on him.
The real question is whether or not Kelly believes the 2014 draft class will yield someone with a higher ceiling than Foles. If he believes someone like Tajh Boyd or Marcus Mariota has a higher ceiling than a Schaub-like player, then perhaps Kelly will explore trading Foles and attempting to move up in the draft.
But if not, the Eagles will be stuck with a game manager, rather than a playmaker. And for a team with this much talent, that may not be such a bad thing.
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First: we need to stop trying to project a career for a QB who has started 9 games. Your article assumes that the skills he has now will remain stagnant. Arm strength in particular can be improved upon, much like pocket awareness and footwork. QB development takes time. Look at kapernick or Newton or RGIII who knows how these guys careers will wind up but they are young guys with enough skill that they deserve to stay on the field. It seems clear Foles will be the starter barring injury so let it play out. Manning,aikman, etc took a couple of years and a lot of mistakes before they mastered the position. We have a strong run game, good o-line and an improving D. All of those are beneficial to a young QB trying to master the toughest position on the field. BTW Vick has one of the quickest releases if any QB to ever play the game. He struggles in other areas.
Well said ridus.
I, for one, and glad he’ll never ‘throw bullets’ like Mike Vick.
As for ‘Threading the needle’ like Rogers and Brees….well, Rogers wasn’t threading any needles until his 5th season and Brees had ‘thread the needle’ to the tune of 29 tds and 31 interceptions over his first 3 seasons. He turned the corner in his 4th year. (and still SD gave up onn him!!!)
Quarterbacks reach their primes in their 3rd or 4th seasons.
I would never expect Foles to look like one of those guys right at the moment.
The fact that his early production absolutly eviscerates anything those guys were able to do over their first 10 games tells me something about the kid.
Bad Comparisom with the Statue QB Natt Dchaub, outside that they are tall & white.. Why is everyone hell bent of deciding who or how Foles will pan out, let the kid play and make his own mark
Going back to your premise, why would you trade a 2nd Year QB in Foles and go with an unproven project like a Boyd/Mariotta next Year,
No Offense, but This is probably the dumbest thing I have read in a while
Also, why do some keep mentioning the name of Tom Brady, who here has compared Foles to Bradt, the kid is playing well, with confidence and leading the Team to sorely needed Victories. Can’t we be happy about this..
Let’s worry about 2014 after this Season is over, but for now, let’s enjoy the fact that Foles has helped the Eagłes back into contention and now will pkay meaningful games in November and hopefully December which is more than his predecessor has done in the last 2 Seasons
Enjoy it while it’s here..
What kind of crap is this? I understand comparisons, but how about letting Nick Foles be Nick Foles. Does he help the Eagles win games? That is the only relevant question.
Great thought BL. Who cares what former QB he plays like, the real question is if the team wins when he plays. Did the Ravens care if Flacco was more like Brady or Schaub? No, they want their QB to be secure with the ball, make smart plays and score in the redzone. These comparisons are for writers looking to get “hits” on a website, not really make a statement about what is important for the team.
BTW that goes for Vinnie and all the rest of you stat posting nitwits.
The writing is very good on the article.
I had to chuckle when Yueh wrote, “he can’t be expected to throw bullets like Vick and McNabb.” `
That is an insult to Donovan McNabb. Donovan was so careful with the football and one of the NFL best game managers. Donovan struggled in the 2 minute drill when he had to let it rip and trust his teammates to make make plays. Mike Vick is a helter skelter QB who handles and throws the football irresponsibly. Mike Vick’s arm is comparable to Jeff George and Rex Grossman, wildly inaccurate.
Clown article bro
Agreed mhenski. What is this article trying to prove?
the article was trying to predict Nick Foles’ ceiling and using a similar arm strength & body type in Matt Schaub. It is actually a pretty good comparison additionally Schaub was Mike Vick’s backup also. I think the kid who wrote the article is very intelligent and is an excellent writer. There is a lot of talent in those words, shame you can’t see it or appreciate top shelf skill. Yueh Ho two thumbs up from me!!!
Dude, come on. Let’s predict a dudes career after 10 games. Then lets come to the conclusion that he is not Tom Brady. Well, congratulations because there are very few guys who are Tom Brady whose name gets mentioned when people talk about best qbs ever.
Also there is a lot of space and ability level in between Schaub/Alex Smith and Brady. Many many levels, so how much analysis is there here.
His comparisons are actually weak too. Schaub doesn’t protect the ball well, which is why the fans in Houston cheered when he got injured after his what 5th pick 6 of the season. It would have been better to compare him to McNabb if you were making that point about Foles, because that is why he has been successful.
And who is comparing him to Tom Brady anyways?
I summer in LBI and am offline during that season so I was unaware that Yueh Ho had previously wrote here on GCobb. I clicked on his name here on GCobb and read 5 of his articles which I previously did not know existed. That guy is a genius with words. You don’t see his skill?
Yueh Ho Is More Likely To Become John Gonzalez Than Rick Reilly
nice
John Gonzalez has a nice job with Comcast and a good life, quick witted and sharp.
Gonzo does seem like a good guy and he is witty. I was just making a play on words.
Co sign henski!!!!!
Nothing like a useless article to bring us all together.
Hey Yo Hoe r u kiddin me? How the hell u slip in 1st time with all that stupidity and nonsense u need to write something not only eagle friendly and positive but something realistic. First off I said this before noone is annoiting Foles as the next Bress or Brady etc just let the guy play and lets see what we have or have not in him too much questions with a whole lot stupid answers stop acting likeu know what is going to happen and just wait and see!!!!
Eagles sign brad smith
He might take over James Casey’s job as emergency QB!
Brad Smith will take over as the 3rd/Emergency QB as well as 5th WR and Returnman on Special Teams … Looks like Danarus Johnson has fallen out of favor with the Eagles staff who have shown very little confidence in him after talking him up all Summer long… ..
Mike Vick will not suit up again, unless there is an Injury to Foles..
does he make the game day roster? You think Danarus is in more trouble than Jeff Maehl?
When you watch his game his accuracy is really good.He’s made elite throws and i dont care if the db ‘s legs fell off. Elite qb’s in the league take advantage of bad play. And it builds confidence when your facing elite db’s.And he’s gonna get better. With added muscle and footwork he can be a top 10 qb in this league. With the most dynamic rb in the league behind him it will only make it better for him to progress. If he continues to play well I believe they shouldnt go qb in round 1. Build the defense with a player that fits the scheme. Outside linebacker for the 3-4.
Shady has a 180 yard day. The blood stops flowing in south philly homers.Slayers in town the week after,there are signs.
Had to stop reading after seeing “does not have elite arm strength or deadly accuracy”.
Watching a young QB grow and develop is a hopeful, optimistic time for a team and its fanbase. Its not about now, but the possibility of a future where the club can compete.
Its not a measureable thing. Its about promise, and hope and emotion. And it is powerful. We’ve all seen it happen with all kinds of other teams. We saw it slowly happen after DMac was signed. I saw it with the Bruins and the slow development of Tim Thomas.
Its that one thing that sparks the team moving forward.
This team was devoid of spark. Everyone knew it. Now there is one. There is hope. There is possibility.
People can now imagine….”if this kid is playing like this now….what will it be like when he hits his stride in 2 years and we have a few more weapons….”
This does not mean that it will work out. He may yet fall apart. (I don;t think that’s going to happen, but who knows).
But I do know I prefer reading books where I don;t know what will happen over an old retread that always ends the same way.
Hope and Promise has been brought to the Birds by Foles and his 7 tds. I feel it and I’m on the other side of the pond.
And if you don;t feel it, too bad for you, you’re possibly missing out on something that might be special. And if it isn’t, then we’ll hope again in another couple of years.
My position is that this process should have begun earlier, but better late than never I suppose.
No spark after week 1?
No spark when AR was fired?
No spark when he hired an NFL DC and not the water boy? (ok that one had little spark)
Your position was wrong then. and it cost you the opppertunity to ppost here anymore. Fortunetly you are a worm and dont keep your word so…. you are safe on that front. The eagles O put up points right away.. and have continued to do so. The O was not the problem…. and the D has clearly gotten better.
With Vick the birds scored about 24 points agame this year… With foles the birds scored about 24 points a game this year. I removed the 1st Giants game from either since they both played a half.
Lets look at the D- with vick on the field… the dave gave up 31 points a game…. with foles…. 17 points a game.
Again… Im all for this change because it lets us see what the future holds but…. Vick can win games and played well for us this year.
Sorry to have commented on this.. yet again but your touchy feely Hope crap reminds me of the current pres and the mess we are now in… Hope.. Change…. yes we can. I vote Eagles 2013…. not Foles 2013. Its a team… thats my story and the numbers agree with me.
last word… I am 100% on board with Foles as the starter… just cant stand this bum.
And here we go….I have to keep going back to MV because Stevo still thinks the 2 QBs are the same and the team is playing the same.
With Vick 33 pts, 30pts, 16pts, 20pts 7 pts (see where that graph is headed???
With Foles 31, 3, 49, 27
Y you are right….the Eagles scoring 24 pts a game under both… 24 pts a game. Exactly the same.
Look shit for brains….you add that 3 in there and yes, its probably going to come in a 24 pts for Foles, but as more and more evidence is telling us, that was an outlier dipshit.
Desean is more productive, Coper is more productive, the offense is more productive under Foles. So cut out that “its the same” bullshit
No one is buying what you are selling.
Sorry couldnt hear you over the shattering of your promise to leave.
Hey Vinnie I hear there’s a good Monty Python marathon playing on BBC. Get out of here with your broken promises and your stat posts. You lose more credibility with every post you make. Bet whelching fraud.
Good solid analysis in this article! Matt Schaub-Nick Foles is a good comparision….slow, weak arm…he really needs everything to be in the right place for him to be successful. The resurgence of our Offensive Line has been the biggest factor for the success of the offense. The Offensive Line dominance has given receivers extra time to run routes…Foles has sat back in the pocket with very little pressure, no consistent penetration from the defense….this is the same way that Matt Schaub has any success.
Thus, we are going has far as the Offensive Line and Shady takes us…when we have to depend on Foles to save the game…we are in trouble
Shaub had/has: Andre Johnson – who has been a top 5 WR for the past 10 years. Shaub has/had: The best running tandem in the league for the past 5 seasons: Ben Tate & beast Arian Foster.
The only comparison is that both men backed up Mike Vick. The difference is that Foles beat out Vick for the starting job twice! With 2 different coaches. While Matt Flynn was traded away for a second round pick and never did beat out Vick.
“The difference is that Foles beat out Vick for the starting job twice!”
Someone is living in LaLa Land again. Vick lost the job to injury twice. He was out 5 games last year and was is still out this year. When Foles had to go head to head with Vick in a comp he lost. badly.
Try again.
You simply don’t pay attention is all. Andy Reid named Foles the starter for the remainder of the season last year after he outplayed Vick. Vick sat healthy on the sideline for multiple weeks.
It’s already clear that Foles is the QB for the remainder of the season.
You can call it injury, but when Vick is healthy he still isn’t the QB.
I’ve been saying Foles is an Alex Smith type since last year. And that can work when the rest of the team in on point. Not so much when it’s not.
look at the stats and say that again.
Yeah Foles is like Alex Smith… They are both white, that’s where the similarity ends.
PLEASE!
Alex smith dreams of throwing 7 Td passes in 3 games Foles did it in One. Foles takes shots down the field Smith is a pedestrian game manager.
You prove that you may not even have eyes just regurgitate an agenda!
This nut tried to compare Foles to Flynn then said Flynn had one good game and couldn’t make it out of a couple training camps, HELLO, not only did Foles make it out of training camp but he was neck n neck with Vick up until the last week of training camp, besides that he is the only QB in history to have a QB rating of 149 or higher in two straight games besides that 7td game that put him in the HOF next to manning and is third in history to start a season without throwing a int, let the kid play! If he was a first round pick the whole media would be singing his praises.
exactly!! If Foles had been a 1st round pick, the whole sports world would be congratulating the Eagles for getting it right!
YUP!
The National media does not know what to do with this story because FOLES HAS BEEN SO GOOD it just can not be true!
What is not mentioned is that Flynn’s elbow is 90% of the reason he hasn’t been able to grab a starting job in the NFL.
If there is one thing that Andy Reid knows about it’s quarterbacks. So I’ll accept his opinion regarding Foles arm strength—–>
“He’s got one of the stronger arms we’ve had here, one of the stronger arms in the league,” the Eagles’ head coach said. “But you’ve got to make sure your feet are right; that your drop is right. You’ve got to learn those things. That’s one of the tougher things for a young quarterback to do.”
In other words, any problems Foles is having with the deep ball are mechanical, not physical.
Foles is far from a finished product. He has a ton of work to do on his footwork and mechnics.
What Foles has that the writer does not touch on is the ability to see the whole field and process what he sees quickly and make the right decision. That’s the most important attribute for an elite quarterback to possess…. and this writer makes no mention of it….
That’s my opinion…
and couldn’t make it out of a couple training camps, HELLO, not only did Foles make it out of training camp but he was neck n neck with Vick up until the last week of training camp, besides that he is the only QB in history to have a QB rating of 149 or higher in two straight games besides that 7td game that put him in the HOF next to manning and is third in history to start a season without throwing a int, let the kid play! If he was a first round pick the whole media would be singing his praises.
andrew p…Vick beat the brakes out of Foles in training camp…there was no argument at all on who won the job. Listen…Kelly is making it happen…but Foles is NOT his style of QB. I bet that Kelly is not moved by stats. With these ‘historic’ numbers…he STILL has not named Foles the starting QB! Why? I bet almost anything that Kelly noticed those wounded ducks that Foles put up and was lucky that GB didn’t pick it off. He saw that and immediately committed to the running game…giving Foles only 18 passes for the game! Kelly noticed the turnover in a key spot late in the game. I dont believe Kelly is sold on Foles…he probably sees him at best as a back up that can manage a game….not a game changing QB that can lead a team to the promise land.
if you listen to Kelly talk about Foles, it’s clear he doesnt believe anything you just wrote. He laughs at people who think Foles has a weak arm. He praises his smarts and accuracy and toughness. I personally believe Kelly is more than pleased with Foles right now. But hey, opinions are like ass holes, everybody’s got one.
Give me a name of a game manager that started with 16 td’s and 0 interceptions?
**Eagles News**
According to source, the Eagles have signed versatile WR KR QB Brad Smith. Pending physical, Smith could be apart of the roster by the end of the day.
My Thoughts: Very good smart signing. They will put Smith all over the field and he has the height size and skill set that Chip is looking for. Great move for a team in the midst of a playoff run. This move will exponentially improve the wide receiver core..
lmfao. you’re a clown bro
Yeah, missing piece for the SB run! You are by far, the worlds, #1 imbecile, with a dunce cap! STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he sucks….not good, or smart to waste a roster spot for someone whose washed up
Good special teams player too.
Foles has made R Cooper a receiving threat. The poor recievers was the 1 thing Vick fans could use as an excuse for MV. I don’t think Copper is that good, but there is huge value to big tall receivers. Eli has 2 rings because the Giants keep getting big targets for him. The Eagles need to get another big target to compliment Jackson and Maclin going forward. I would think Ertz is that target, hopefully he works out. I see Foles as and more mobile Eli (yes I said that) that sees the field and throws guys open. He can’t read defenses like Eli, but I’m hoping that’s where he improves the most this year.
Based on Body type, Throwing Mechanics and Smarts Foles Favors the Elder Manning in Denver more than ELI.
Yeuh Ho, I have to agree with the group on this one. This is a pretty bad and lazy article. However, thanks for putting out an article that all of us actually agree on for a change. I trust that Gary will start reviewing your articles before posting them again.
Yeuh Ho….the vast majority in the group here dont know much about football! Your assessment is accurate, objective, and clear.
Everyone else doesn’t know much about football because they disagree with Kool and because we don’t know what Foles will be after 10 games, but you and the author do. Can you also give me some stock tips and some powerball numbers?
koolbreeze has endorsed this article because he hates seeing a white QB take Vick’s job. Whaaaa whaaaa.
the kool breeze he is feeling is all that air floating in between his ears
Last week: Foles isn’t a Franchise QB. This week. Foles is a Crappy Franchise QB.
Let’s just compare Shaubs 5th season in the NFL and second season as a starter to Nick Foles this season.
Shaub: 11 Games, 15 TDs, 10 INT’s, 6 Fumbles, 66%completions
Foles: 7 Games, 16 TDS, 0 INT’s, 1 Fumble, 63% completions
So if Foles throws for -1 TDs come sunday and 10 Int’s maybe we can start comparing the two together. Shaubs best season was his 9th season in the league where he threw for 4000 yards, 22 touchdowns and 12 interceptions.
From reading Foles stats and watching him play, it’s easy to predict him having a better season THIS YEAR than Shaubs Best season ever. Also note, that Foles played in 7 games this season, but only started 4
For shits and giggles let’s compare Smith’s 5th & 6th Season to Foles 2013 campaign.
Smith (2010): 11 Games, 14 TD’s, 10 INT’s, 4 Fumbles, 59% completions
Smith (2011): 16 Games, 17 TD’s, 5 INT’s, 5 Fumbles, 51% completions
You may be thinking: “well in 1 more game, Foles can have a better season than Alex Smith EVER had.” And you would be right in that assessment.
error: Smith (2011) had 61% completions.
Yueh Ho …. makes me thirsty for some chocolate milk.
Yueh Ho? Enough said. Is your middle initial an A. Got to be a false name. Too good to be true on here! LOL!
Hey DCar you win GCobb for the day brah. LOL
Big, I couldn’t resist! LOL!
What Nick Foles has done in a limited sample size projects him to be a better player than Matt Schaub.
And since Schaub has had a better career than Vick, he projects to be better than him as well.
Foles is turning into vick hes already passed schuab..
Turning into Vick? Bahahahahahaha….
G, where did you get this guy, Ho?
johnnyeagle, he got him from under the El, at Girard Ave. LOL!
I can’t believe that at this late date there are still people who think that if Foles fails Vick will ride in like the Calvary and carry the Eagles to the playoffs then sign a 3 year contract extension. That is not going to happen.
If there was any chance of that happening Jeff Laurie would not have said that the number one priority is to find the future quarterback.
The bus has passed – stop running…..
speaking of the people that think that…Anyone heard from Songs? I think he might have cut his wrist with his Ron Mexico Casadia Cutter? Or maybe hung himself with his RG3 Shoelaces….If one breaks you can mend it with a piece of the other……..:D
LOL…what’s amazing is that the Vick-haters keep dragging him in the conversation…when most of us who have spoke in favor of Vick have basic made the obvious clear about him….he’s hurt…he can’t play hurt…and the nature of his injury makes it unlikely that he can come back and be effective…so its pretty obvious that Foles will play out the rest of the season. Vick is hurt.
The argument now is whether or not Foles can get the job done and based on what we have seen so far…should the Eagles name him the starter and commit to an era of Nick Foles as the franchise QB.
I say definitely-NO! Foles has padded his numbers against sub-par, weak teams…Green Bay was without Aaron Rodgers and down to their 3rd string QB…and in this game…Kelly saw Foles throw a number of wounded ducks for passes and promptly emphasized the running game…we were lucky that Green Bay didnt have a competent QB…Foles late game turnover may have cost us!
The bottom line is that we have a pretty easy schedule…Foles needs to show consistency and lead us to the playoffs. Lets see Foles get it done with some pressure…lets look at him in crunch time. Will he crumble and fold up like he did in the Dallas game? These questions about Foles have not been answered!
A pulled Hamstring is going to keep him out for the rest of the Season,
what a sad story and a shitty way to go out for VIck.. A QB who relied on his legs and escapability lost his best skill as a QB.. Without his Legs he is Toast, too small, too inaccurrate, too slow to read coverages and poor with his ball security… I doubt very much he will get another shot next Season, but who knows, any Team can have their QB go down and need a Veteran next Season who gives them a chance.. as far as his Eagle Career goes, It was over a month ago…
He went to the running game with a three possession lead and a third string qb dummy. He executed a 9 minute drive to end the game… It doesn’t matter who your qb is that is a text book way to take the air out of the ball. As for his fumble… Yup he got hit and fumbled… It happens. Have you noticed 16 TD and 0 INT?
Using your logic…..now there is an oxymoron, Koolbreaze logic……why isn’t Vick smart enough to “pad his stats” against bad teams like Foles?
Koolbreeze, Your logic sounds like it comes from a 10 year-old girl. It’s ridiculous!
First, Foles played against the Packers defense which was not weakened by the lose of Rodgers.
Second, after the two long TD passes that you say caused Kelly to “promptly emphasized the running game”. The Eagles continued to throw the ball – including a 32 yard TD pass to close out the third quarter.
Third, it was because Foles burned the Packers defense with three long TD passes that they were able to run the ball in the final quarter to run out the clock.
Your half-ass analysis sounds like a angry little girl who lost her Barbie doll.
The Redskins game should be interesting. While the offense should look because the Reskins D is atrocious…they had Ponder looking like a superstar last week…RG3 is looking back to his normal self, and with Morris and Garcon to get a handle on, it’s probably the best overall offense and QB they’ve faced in awhile.
While I will say the defense kept up their bend don’t break goal last week, I think that had more to do with the a 3rd string QB playing than anything they did. A slightly better QB and that game likely plays out a bit differently.
Right it would have been different. The eagles wouldn’t have let the air out of the ball for the entire 4th quarter.
Oviosly we need 2 quartbacks .. Vick is better than Foles in every way But height.. A good tall quartback can be great.. A great short quartback can be good.
Um… drew brees?
Height thing is overrated. Foles is a different qb all together. You are correct when u say we need 2qbs. This is for sure true. I said that we would need both of them this year and it seems i was right (although u wont see me tooting my own horn like a mornon). Both qbs have given us good stuff this year and for that i am thankful. The d is coming together… i still want to see them face another good QB like they did payton early in the season.
But height, but decision making, but red zone production, but TD/INT ratio, but health. Dude, when Mike was playing I backed him…even last year when the O line was terrible I recognize that Mike couldn’t do much do the the horrendous play of the O line. However, it’s time to move on, Mike is not going to play again unless Foles gets injured. There’s nothing wrong with loyalty and supporing your guy,but, when it clouds your judgement it begins to distort reality. 16 TD’s – 0 interceptions anybody who wants to argue against those numbers is crazy. Mike never posted anything like that, not even in his best days with Atlanta, and trust me he played against some garbageass defenses too, but he could not manage such a feat. Mike has had some damn good games and was a good athletic QB, however, those days are over.He is not as good as Foles now, he can’t play his game without hurting himself. Mike may bea backup QB next year, starting days are over!!!
Eagle… move on? It was never about 1 guy or the other for me. Both can win. Ive seen that. I support foles. I support vick. I want to win and think we can as long as our D plays big to go along with the points we seem to score weekly.
Stevo…my post wasn’t meant for you, it was directed at lawrrds post…if the shoe doesn’t fit bruh….feel me!
I too support who ever is at the helm..as I’ve consistently posted on here…Team First! I am absolutely rooting for Foles because he’s the QB and I want to see the Eagles whup some ass every time they play.
YES!!! U have for sure been a supporter… i agree. If foles can be the guy, we get a stud OLB or FS.
“Oviosly” ???
“quartback” twice????
And you say you’re in MENSA?
BWAHAHAHA!!!
you forgot Foles is better in completion percentage, touchdown to int ratio, passer rating but other than that you hit the nail on the head!
So many fools on here, but I give huge props to my Italian friend paulman. He’s been spot on accurate on almost every post, thanks paulman for keeping it real
There are so many other nitwits who offer nothing, read some of their shit and you will realize how dumb, biased these pricks are, but excuse them, they know not what wisdom is, they are filled with hate , bias, biggest jack assess
Agree 100% stats only used to support their bias. Forget team.. its my guy or bust
Larrrwd, do you have a brain
LOL!!!!
jake, he’s the MENSA master! He’s got a top 5% activated brain.
Self-proclaimed!
Jake misses the days of arguing with Schiller about mental toughness of the players, fan responsibility. It is now about breaking down the best eagles quarterback since mcnabb, foles is not this, he’s not that, well in the words of parcellls, you are what your record says you are, and by that standard he’s not only good but spectacular, but it’s white tail doe deer hunting season for the racists and those who make their living of this fuel, the mike missannellis of the world, to say the record is not the athlete
I had the chance to briefly meet Nick Foles last winter. What a nice kid! He gave my kid 2 autographs, took some pictures with him, and I asked him what he thought about the competition with Mike Vick. His demeanor went from almost too nice, to something that made me take a step back ” I love the competition.” I am just really glad for this guy and the opportunity that he now has. If you ever get the chance, meet him. You’ll be impressed with that alone, aside from his alter ego QB par excellance, right now anyway and hopefully from here on out.
Thats great. Yes… would live to that kind of guy as our qb starter for a secade or so.
Yu Hoeh?
One thing Nick Foles and Matt Schaub have in common is they both replaced Michael Vick.
Schaub has been around for about 7 years now, and has had a solid, if unspectacular career, with a couple of playoff appearances and some serious injuries…Comparison with Foles is out of left field.
Perhaps Foles with his ‘weak arm, lack of mobility, etc’ just doesn’t bring enough ‘diversity’ to the field??
Let it go Frank, this discussion has nothing to do with color or wink wink diversity. Don’t quite get whatever point you were trying to make.
Boy…what a bunch of whining, sad sack comments. Listen, Foles is the QB…for now. I want to something that we have never seen from Foles…simply…a clutch, pressure performance against good team. Not Oakland with cornerbacks falling down…Not Green Bay who is down to their third string Qb…the last time we seen Foles in anything resembling a pressure game it was against Dallas at home for the division…and he choked….really bad.
Foles is confident, he has 16 touchdowns and no interceptions…lets see what the kid does the rest of the year…if he is worthy of the job he will take us to the playoffs! The drive for the playoffs starts this week against Washington against a very weak defense but a team that will be fighting for their playoff lives with a top flight QB in RGIII.
Prove me wrong…Foles performance over the last couple of weeks have not convinced me that he is a franchise QB. I think he is a back up that has caught some very good breaks at an opportune moment. Sometimes its better to be lucky than good. However luck wont get you through an entire season…lets see how Foles performs with some pressure! I will believe in him when I see him in a clutch performance…until then…I don’t think he’s got what it takes! Prove me wrong Foles..Lets see what ya got! As Andy you to say..”times yours”…Its Foles .time to produce
See that makes me laugh, cause the kid has produced to historic numbers the past few weeks. You over look last year he was statistically only behind RG3 in Rookie numbers. This year it’s no contest really. Your giving so many wxcuses for his production..but other qb’s play these same teams under similar circumstances….Why is this so rare? Im not saying he is the second coming of Unitas but he deserves a lot more credit than your giving him. I just don’t see after 10 starts you can determine he doesn’t have what it takes. It’s funny how he only gets 10 starts and he has to prove it to you…..Im sure if he fails he wont get a dozen years to fail. I digress, 16 Td’s 0 int’s Smart decision making and 10 career starts….Better numbers than RG3 but RG3 is a top flight QB. Just interesting how you make your case and the words you use.
Well why isn’t he the second coming of Unitas? If he has better numbers than RG3, why not say that he is better than RG3…he has better numbers over in these games than Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.
More importantly, why wont his coach just say…hey…the kid is hot…we are making him the starter?
Why?
No one is saying that Foles has not played well. I’m more impressed by the dominance of the offensive line which took over the GB game. My case is made by what we all see and why no one is comparing Foles to RG3 or other top flight quarterbacks. We all saw the Dallas game…and Foles has not produced that clutch performance in a tight contested game.
because you judge young guys over time…I don’t think Rg3 is a top flight QB right now. That comes with time..
RG3 lead his team to the playoffs, he lead his team in pressure situations, come from behind victories in games that counted and mattered…you have not seen anything like this from Nick Foles…Nothing at all. Nick Foles is good when everyone else around him performs at a very high level…he can executed under perfect weather conditions…if it gets a little rough a little windy…Foles has not shown us he can perform under the big primetime lights.
Dude, you are a flat out dip$#!t! REALLY!!!!
Arron Rodgers doesnt play d. Capers is a pretty darn good d-cord. Foles did a great job moving the ball against that unit. Give props to the line for there performance. Shady eases his burden a bit.
I dont see how anyone can tell that he doesnt have “it” without letting him play a full or partially full season. Took plenty of top notch qb’s a season or two before they really become elite status.
He takes care of the ball and anticapates throws well. Thanks for the efforts Mike. THis is Nicks team.
Aaron Rodgers doesn’t have to play D…but he puts pressure on an offensive to produce and score…you fumble the ball against Rodgers in the fourth quarter of a game…he will make you pay for it.
The reason why it is said that he doesn’t have ‘it’…is because we have not seen ‘it’. If he had ‘it’…he would have beat Vick out of the job in training camp and we would have mustered up at least one or two average throws in the Dallas game to help us win…he didn’t.
So now…when the offensive line has been dominating, and we have the best running back in the league in Shady…Foles plays well…when the going is really good…lets see him take us to the playoffs since its ‘Nicks team’…nothing less is acceptable!
Erog, don’t try to reason with koolbreeze, his favorite player is on the bench.
Koolbreeze won’t be happy unless the Eagles draft a new black quarterback this off-season. If that doesn’t happy you will never see him posting here again. He will be gone….
There’s a small segment of people on this site who root for the player, not the team – koolbreeze is one of them. He watches every game hoping Foles fails. Of course, there’s a group who want Vick to fail too…
Myself, I just want the Eagles to win. If Vick plays I want him to play well – if Foles plays, I want him to play well. The majority of people around here fell the same way.
I’m with u where Foles is concerned. He had 2 okay games in NYG and Greeb Bay and 2 great games against the Raiders and Tampa and a clunker against Dallas.
I’m gonna claim the Redskins game as a W (I don’t have a good reason I’m just a lil’ bullish on it), but none of the games after the bye are gimmies in a way the middle of the schedule was. Even the Vikes with their bad defense, still has AP and I’m not sure our defense can contain him. So it will be good times moving forward.
We def will have a solid answer on Nick Foles by the end of the year.
Ok games? He was almost perfect against GB
If he plays “okay” like he did against NYG and GB for the rest of his career he will be a first ballot hall of famer. I’ll take “okay” for sure.
Talk about delusional.
Can t take a female on this site with more balls and brains than you, a real Philadelphia fan not just a vick fan like you, she roots for the sixers, flyers, phillies and eagles, you root for Michael Vick
ts is just a fool.
eagles can’t throw deep without Vick. haaaaaa
eagles can’t run without Vick. haaaaaaa
Vicks the better qb. haaaaaaa
Vick puts butts in seats. haaaaaaa
how could I forget nick Foles is just like Alex smith haaaaaaaa
Ahh…I see you’re still showcasing your lack of reading comprehension skills.
Hey you are the one that called 28/42 (65%) for 425 yards with 5 TD passes and 0 Int’s and 1 Fumble with a 132.1 QB rating over 6 quarters against two teams who have won Superbowls in recent years “okay”. You are the delusional one. Those are extremely elite QB numbers. Oh yeah, we got two wins out of those games also.
Guys… we are all saying the same thing……
So far the kid looks good. Lots of great things going on. Lets see what else he can do. This week is a big game against a skins team that is better than before…. lets see how he does.
We have several home games….. lets see how he handles the pressure.
We have the cowboys at the end…. lets see how he does.
Yes Stevo. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, but enjoy the ride we are on and see how it works out. By the end of the year we should have a good idea what we have (unless, God forbid, we have an injury) in Foles and what direction this team will take in the off season. Until then, enjoy the ride. Looks like we are going to have some meaningful games in December this year and still a possibility of the playoffs. All is good, let’s enjoy the ride.
GO BIRDS!!
The Redskins game is gonna be more about how the defense plays than the offense. If the offense puts up less than 30 I’d be surprised.
We’ll see how good this bend don’t break defense is against a Redskins team with it’s back against the wall and an (almost) 100% RG3.
good point ts…Foles should put up at least 30 on the Redskins…the defense will be tested. This is a big game, we can put some distance between us and the Redskins in the division with a big time win here
I remember how it was a year ago. We were all pretty miserable. We certainly wanted one person out of here (look at him now by the way-he got lucky). Now, there is nothing but hopeful anticipation and excitement no matter what happens with Foles. Looks like we have a good coaching staff with promise. That is good enough for me for now. This is an exciting team!
Again this is another crap ass article on this site, I swear I come just to humor myself. Ur analysis and comparisons are wrong. Foles is mobile, extremely mobile avoiding sacks in the pocket. He’s not a scrambler. Matt Schaub is a bum. He’s still a bum and he has foster and Andre at his disposal. Crap crap crap crap.. Go write more crap !!
Great job silencer at silencing these wanna be journalists that want to scrutinize the promising qb nick foles because he is white , they do it because they want to get promoted because black is in at quarterback the running quarterback, is the back quarterback, it’s reverse racism, but its Obama and the new black mentality
Screw all of you and the moving Mike Missonelli goal line shit.
If foles were a # 1 draft pick this year and handed the starting spot after a 1 and 3 record would ANY of you be REALISTICALLY asking for a PLAYOFF birth or Win????????? BULLLCRAPPP you would.
We would all be doing the Wow Tampa was awesome Eek Dallas game sucked Holly Crap Canton vs Raiders and a GB win Wow baby we may have something!!
Foles being drafted in the third round yet putting up better numbers in his first 9 starts than ANY QB in History has everyone too spooked to jump on board.
If we trade him away –> it will be the typical Philly story where a guy goes off to another team and becomes a HOFer.
Chris Carter –> Only Caught Touchdowns
Nick Foles–> Only Throws Touch Downs
I would HATE that!
The criticism, doubt about foles comes down to one decisive factor, in spite of the overwhelming evidence, he’s the best young quarterback in the history of the game, but he’s white,really white, and the journalist prey on that , because their promotion depends on them feeding on the blacks in the national media who want no part of foles, not because of ability but color, it’s the way it’s been for a long time, but we can change it by decrying it
I’m gonna add something to my bucket list. That is to meet you somewhere and beat the ignorance out of your ass. You are 25 percent delusional and 75 percent stupid. Do you actually believe half the shit you post? If you do I damn sure hope your in a rubber room somewhere.
LOL.
Can I help…between him and mhenski I’ve been called everything but a child of God. Look apparently Jakedog has missed the QB crop of the last couple of years…one of who is playing on Thursday night and one we’re playing against Sunday.
Typical of the ignorance spewed on this site.
And nick foles Has outplayed em both ya idiot
LOL.
Check those rookie year stats playboy. Then go ask the Redskins and Colts who’d they whether have as QB.
The Colts would keep Luck, but I’m not so sure about the Skins.
Yeah I know Vinnie. And Carolina is gonna trade Cam Newton.
you think i give a fuck who the skins would rather have or the colts? the colts are fucking morons giving up a 1st round pick for trent richardson. the skins are always clueless and rg3 is getting bent in half every single week. fuck rg3
and again nick foles through 10 games have outplayed both of those 2 in their first 10 games.
you truely are 1 dumb fuck
I know this is way off topic but does anyone else thinks its funny when Nick Foles is in the shotgun and gets ready for the snap by raising his leg just to stop and look to the sideline? LMAO. Ok maybe its just me. I tend to laugh at dumb shit.
Always violence big lion when I made a cogent analyss of truth in America ,much like the violent threats others received for speaking the truth
Yout hollow threats justify your low status and agenda here…I figured you out from your earliest posts, a bigoted, agenda driven, passive aggressive ignoramus , your not an eagles fan, you’re a black fan
Again stupidity from the fingers of Jake the Gcobb idiot, who brings race into every conversation possible. Can I borrow your tinfoil hat?
I never said Carolina was going to trade Newton. I said there was a lot of speculation that they were going to. And there was, especially after his little press conference meltdown.
And as for RGIII. He’s had 2 major knee reconstructions over the past 3 years). His injuries have had a profound impact on his performance both last year coming down the stretch and this year to start the season. Any team that isn’t questioning his long term viability as a starter capable of carrying a team through a 16 game sched and into the playoffs is not doing their due dilligence.