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folesininesOffense Comes Up Small In Winnable Game

The slow starts and injuries to the offensive line finally caught up to the Eagles.

The Eagles’ offense hung a big fat goose egg in San Francisco, failing to generate single score while contributing four turnovers to the Eagles’ loss.

There were problems all throughout the offense today. Failing to generate points is one thing, but shooting yourself in the foot with costly turnovers is another.

The momentum of this game swung when Zach Ertz fumbled the ball away in the start of the third quarter. The Eagles’ defense had started the half by stopping the San Francisco offense and getting the ball back, and Ertz coughed up the ball and set the Niners up with a very short field that they turned into a touchdown.

The quarterback was off. The running game wasn’t there. The offensive line was woeful. Sloppy, careless plays were a common theme.

Let’s start with the quarterback. Nick Foles did have a good game at all today. He made some really poor throws and decisions throughout this game, and never got himself into a groove.

Foles finished with just 195 yards, no touchdowns, and two interceptions. His third quarter interception came on a terrible throw where he didn’t see the San Francisco safety and gave Jeremy Maclin no chance to make a play. On the final possession on fourth and goal, Foles made a really weak effort, firing a ball out of the endzone to turn the ball over on downs.

Foles also missed a number of open receivers on deep passes. Foles hasn’t looked good throwing the deep ball this year. He’s sailed too many passes over guys heads.

No Run Zone

The Eagles utterly failed to establish a run for the second straight game. LeSean McCoy gained just 17 yards on 10 carries, and continues to be a non-factor. The patchwork offensive line obviously has a lot to do with this, but the Eagles need to adjust their rushing strategy.

With the offensive line in its current state, the Eagles’ typical running plays out of the shotgun just aren’t going to work. Its time for Chip Kelly to consider going with some more traditional I-formations, using a guy like James Casey as a fullback to help compensate for the lack of push up front.

LeSean McCoy and the running game is such a key figure in this offense, and its unacceptable that the Eagles can’t find a way to get him going. They found out today that they can’t keep winning games without the support of a strong running game.

Time Of Possession Disaster

Time of possession was a ridiculous 41:46 to 17:43.

The Eagles’ offense picked up just five first downs in the first half, and didn’t pick up a single one in the second half until their second to last drive

The offense just did everything that they could to lose this game, and did a tremendous job at hanging the defense out to dry.

Defense Shows Encouraging Signs

Give the Eagles’ defense a ton of credit.

They battled their hearts out today, and did absolutely all they could to set this team up for a win.

The pass rush came alive, generating four sacks and constant pressure on Colin Kaepernick.

The defense was able to get off of the field on some key third downs, and even at the end of the game were able to stop the 49ers and get the ball back for one last attempt to score.

You have to like that this defense battles every week. They’ve got their problems, but they’re a tough group that is certainly capable of making plays.

Malcolm Jenkins had another big interception, returning a Kaepernick pass 53 yards for a touchdown in the first half. Fletcher Cox and Cedric Thornton battled hard in the trenches, and made some big stops as the day went on.

Cary Williams Is Awful

While the defense as a group impressed me, one guy that absolutely did not was Cary Williams

Williams was always at the scene of the crime today. He was burned throughout the game, including one big third down pass to Michael Crabtree in the second half. He gave noticeably weak effort in run support. Half of the time, it didn’t even look like he was running hard. I haven’t seen a performance this bad from a cornerback since the days of Nnamdi Asomugha.

Quick Thoughts

 

Offense

  • Good lord, can the Eagles make it through one wretched game with sustaining an injury to a prominent offensive lineman? Jason Peters briefly left the game in the second half with an injury and was temporarily replaced by Andrew Gardner.
  • David Molk got called for holding penalty in the first half that wiped out an Eagles first down, and gave Foles a couple of high snaps
  • Jeremy Maclin was the one guy on offense that showed up today. Maclin finished with five catches for 68 yards, including an incredibly tough reception deep in San Francisco territory.
  • Third straight game with no receptions for Brent Celek.
  • Riley Cooper had five catches for 64 yards.
  • Brad Smith finally made an appearance on offense, catching a screen pass in the fourth quarter.

Defense

  • Connor Barwin and Trent Cole combined for a sack that killed a drive, and set up the blocked punt touchdown.
  • Barwin picked up another sack in the third quarter.
  • Good play by Earl Wolff to get his hand up and bat down a pass intended for Vernon Davis in the first quarter. Wolf however would later give a sorry effort on Frank Gore’s touchdown reception, failing to get Gore out of bounds and missing a tackle.
  • Brandon Graham picked up a sack at the end of the first quarter. Graham evaded a blocker a ran straight into Kaepernick.
  • Emmanuel Acho and Jenkins combined to stuff Frank Gore on a short third down at the end of the first half to force San Francisco to kick a field goal.
  • The defense could have had a few more sacks today, but the mobility of Kaepernick was very hard for them to deal with.

Special Teams

  • Trey Burton broke through to block a punt on San Francisco’s opening drive which was recovered by Brad Smith for the Eagles’ first touchdown.
  • Darren Sproles fought through a facemask and returned Andy Lee’s second punt of the day for an 82-yard touchdown.
  • On the Sproles punt return, Chris Polk came very close to recording another punt block.
  • Brandon Bair got a hand on Phil Dawson’s 51-yard field goal attempt, but the kick made it through the uprights anyway.

Final Thoughts

Any winnable game that falls through the cracks is very frustrating.

The Eagles took an eight point lead into the half, and gave it away. The offense that had been able to overcome slow starts ran out of magic. Anytime your defense and special teams combine for 21 points, that should be more than enough to set the offense up to do enough to close the deal…especially when offense is the team’s specialty.

The positives are the play of the defense and special teams. More often than not, we know that the Eagles’ offense is going to be there. If they continue to get such good support from the second and third phases of the game, they’re going to be in great shape most weeks.

Hopefully this loss serves as a wake-up call for Chip Kelly and his run offense. Until the offensive line gets healthy, dramatic changes to the run scheme must occur.

At the end of the day, this was not a game that I expected the Eagles to win before the season began, and I also did not expect them to win during this week either.

Let’s make adjustments, clean things up, and get ready for the Rams.

 

Denny Basens

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paulman
paulman
September 28, 2014 9:32 pm

A few things I took away from Today’s entertaining Gane
1) Foles is a Gane-Manager – If running Game is not working,
He not that effective.. He was off all Game long
2) RB LeSean McCoy needed to sit this one out..
He’s lost confidence and lacks explosion and ran scared today
He was pushed backward 3 times today by one arms by 49ers Defenders
Twice by Bethea and once by LB Brooks by arm
(Why not use a healthy and fresh RB C Polk today)
3) Final 6 Offensive Pkays called by Kelky were terrible and Abdy Reid
Like.., 3rd and Gial at the 2!!! 2 Downs to nake 2 yards!!!
Spread them out with 4 wide and Run the ball on 3rd Down
4) Eagles Front 7 played well versus the Pass, but at the expense of a trying to stop the Run (why 49ers did not elect to run the ball is puzzling since they were averaging 6-7 Yards a Pop)
5) interior LB’s Ryans and Matthews had poor Games
ILB Acho I thought Pjayer pretty well
6) Secondary Tackling was poor today
(Alken,Wolff,Carroll,Boykin, Williams missed chances to stop 3rd Diwn receptions short of 1st Down markers and failed to do so top
Often
7) At 3-1 after 4 Games, I am ok with this and didn’t expect them to Win today..
For they were not going 16-0.. This was a winnable Fane strictly by the Dpecial Teams Pkay of 14 Points, but they blew it..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 28, 2014 10:12 pm
Reply to  paulman

Here are some key observations that we need to take away from this Game:

1. Nick Foles is not a franchise QB…He is ok as a game manager when everything else is perfect…but over these 4 games he has consistently missed open receivers. He can beat sup-par, weak defenses and pad his stats against them…but when he goes up against a fundamentally sound defense….he falls very short.
2. McCoy’s production is clearly affected by the lost of DJax who kept that safety out of the box. There are no holes at all but in the past at least Shady can make some exciting runs with just a little push…he is not getting any space at all.
3. Maclin has been ok but Riley Cooper is a big mistake…he stinks…might as well put him on the bench and let the rookie take his spot…but we dont have a game breaking wide-receiver…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 28, 2014 10:42 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Cooper is having a better year than McCoy

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 28, 2014 9:50 pm

Denny not one mention in your summation about the coaching and the play calling firstly , after the San Fran challenge ,maclin is rewarded the great one hand grab (sign this dude Jeffrey ) they are not left after the bad challenge any time outs and they’re throwing the ball incomplete taking 5 seconds off the clock,then at the goal line down 5pts./after a successful rare run by shady with too much time to give the ball back to Frisco he runs shady twice and if he scores is up one with the clock having been run down by running at the goal line..but as we know he didn’t and threw it twice and a rollout ,shortening the field no less ..frustrating ,because with all taht went wrong offensively especially he had a 92 yard drive and a score to end the script at 4-0..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 28, 2014 9:54 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Chip had a bad game plan.

Just dont know how bad it was with the way the line was playing….if we cant run then basically the offense is one dimensional at best.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 2, 2014 7:23 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Chip game plan was perfect.

Chip call the play that had Maclin open twice for touchdowns early in the game and Foles over threw him.

If one of those plays are made that game would have been an Eagles rout.

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 28, 2014 9:56 pm

Pman sorry but we are 3-1 ..nick is more than a game manager that’s bullshit rolling off your lips ..was he good today …re soundly No.but he was pretty heroic last week …he’s the only qb I know who gets dissected ,when he gets 22 yds out of his rushing game .lets be real here ..he wasn’t very good today ,but to say he’s now a game manager that’s just bullshit
He had thrown for 300 yds in 3 consecutive games ,and today ,he admittedly was not good ..but …a game manager ? C’mon man

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 28, 2014 10:01 pm

Oh yeah and williams ran his mouth last week and he stunk out the place today ,and I agree with Denny he showed like he was dogging it at times ..Izzell nailed it too..Chip Kelly was awful ,in play calling ..next man up my ass..he was coaching as if he let that be his mantra ,but he coached spooked by his intended inadequacies …I found it interesting how badly scripted the plays were ,we never heard about the fast pce eagles offense even once today

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
September 28, 2014 10:01 pm

This offense can be unstoppable with the right quarterback.

Nick Foles keeps the opposing team in the game and it’s that plain and simple.

You can’t play like shit coming out of the chute and try to pull a game winning drive out your ass every weak.

The Niners would have put up a “50 balll” had if their defense and special teams gave them 21 points.

The Eagles whin this game waling away if there’s good quarterback play in the first half of the game.

If Foles come out like a deer in the headlights and sleep walk through the first half next week, Chip need to sit is ass.

A stellar effort from the defense and Special teams wasted.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 28, 2014 10:17 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Good point Songs…all you have to do is look at the QB rating of 42%! This is with time in the pocket no fierce pash rush. Kapernick played better under more pressure from our defense…he made some key plays to keep his team in the game…despite his mistakes…Foles is so slow and so inaccurate at times…when you are slow as Foles is…you need to be a pinpoint accurate passer…especially when the pass rush is not getting to you…smh…Foles just does not give you enough and wont give you enough against quality defenses

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 28, 2014 10:44 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

as bad as Foles was he still had a better game than Shady McCoy

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
September 29, 2014 10:19 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Hey Kool and Songs….where you guys been? Oh that’s right the birds were winning, scoring points (without Desean) and foles was playing well (not great but well) which means you guys are no where to be found.

At least TS is objective with her critiques and I gained a lot of respect for her after last week’s game, but you two are just jokes.

It was a terrible game. Bad play all around. Foles looked bad no excuses. Shady looked bad no excuses.

All that being said, this game had loss written all over it. Despirate team in the 9ers, traveling cross country coming off a battle and were down three linemen. They looked inept but common the sky is not falling.

They should be 5-1 or 4-2 going into the break which is a really good position to be in.

I know the loss stings but this fanbase’s overreaction (both ways) is laughable sometimes.

dtime
dtime
September 29, 2014 11:41 am

It amazing to me that this is such a mystery to some people. The line blocks well and the running backs looks great and the quarterback looks likes is ready for the super bowl. The line blocks poorly and you get the type of game that we saw yesterday. It really that simple. There is one thing that you can depend on and that is if Foles has a bad game that Songs will crawl out of his hole. He was strangely quiet last week.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 2, 2014 8:00 am

Foles wasn’t playing well. He was playng like shit since the end of last year, through the preseason up until now.

The games are close because of Nick Foles.

An accurate quarterback with mobility and a strong arm with this same team is undefeated and blow out every team by a large margin so far.

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 28, 2014 10:08 pm

Crickets ……..nobody’s listening ..what rock were you under last week…long season …you’ll have more losses to emerge you troll..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 28, 2014 10:08 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Lol good one

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
September 28, 2014 10:12 pm

42.3 passing rate.

Can you spin this one Vinnie?

give us the stats?

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
September 28, 2014 10:19 pm

Dallas might have the best oline in the East.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 28, 2014 10:46 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

When healthy I like our Oline better. However as far as young guns….I like how they have drafted a TON.

Theyve gone Tackle Center Guard over the last 3-4 years and its paid off tremendously.

They battled to many injuries last year. This year they look good.

skayne
skayne
September 28, 2014 11:21 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Yo TS, you have to read the comments in Eagles 24/7, you might get some amusement about how opinions are changing.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
September 29, 2014 3:38 am
Reply to  skayne

LOL.

I peeked over there.

They are saying the same shit I was saying last year, but was getting killed for.

Day late and a dolla short over there. lol

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 28, 2014 10:20 pm

I can songs …it’s pretty much football 101.. When a pro bowl guard who outruns receivers goes down and a center who is at best a top 2 or 3 center ,is out , a selfish ass lineman gets put on probation for 4 games …it’s equal to try to win the Kentucky derby with AR as your jockey …

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
September 28, 2014 10:22 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

So, how did those subs on the line do on the plays Foles sailed balls over open receivers early in the game?

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
September 28, 2014 10:20 pm

Look at Dallas. That’s what an NFL quarterback looks like.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 28, 2014 10:38 pm

Foles was awful —
Shady was awful —
the OL rushing game was awful —
Cooper was decent, Maclin was decent, Matthews was decent —
the tight ends were awful —
Sproles was decent –
Celek and Shady are not earning their paychecks —

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 28, 2014 10:41 pm

Disagree
Foles was shit.
Entire O line was shit.
Ertz was shit.
Cooper was shit.
Maclin was ballin.
Matthews was ballin.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 28, 2014 10:45 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Shady was shit –
Cooper had a good game —

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 28, 2014 10:47 pm

Youre fucking with me on Cooper right?

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 28, 2014 10:49 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Cooper had 6 catches on 8 targets for 54 yards – and one was over thrown when he had the corner beat for a TD and the other was tipped in the end zone

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 28, 2014 11:16 pm

And has down nothing in the red zone and that touchdown pass was not tipped. He shit the bed and dropped it. Which he has done all year in the red zone.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 29, 2014 8:36 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I saw a replay the ball wasn’t tipped but that was pass interference, he was being held

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 30, 2014 1:10 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

The ball hit him in the hands. Gotta catch it.

summup
summup
September 30, 2014 1:01 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

ahey JENKINS i’m withya what game were you watching……..Whats up DENMAN

CT
CT
September 28, 2014 11:32 pm

If you would had told me before the season that would be 3-1 through the first quarter of the season, I would have been one happy ass fan. Us fans wish we could be perfect and go 16-0 because of the fact we feel we’re that good and it’s possilble but when that first loss really does come it hurts, especially after how winnable it was. But let’s be real this is the nfl and this shit happens. Brews,Brady,mannings, Rodgers all struggle and have bad games. For us to travel across country and play as bad As we did on offense and still be in it tells you something. We’re going to be fine. Lane Johnson coming back and getting back into things is going to be a big plus. Rams next week and giants after that. 5-1 going into the bye week. I’ll take it

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 28, 2014 11:52 pm
Reply to  CT

Agreed 4-2 or 5-1 going into the bye. I’m doing backflips.

kenkap
kenkap
September 29, 2014 6:12 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Sorry. Dallas looks much stronger. If O line is back by November and the fort can hold Birds have a shot. But Foles looks more and more like he’s not up to it.

Muimuiman
Muimuiman
September 28, 2014 11:37 pm

Lets be fair about this, Foles and Mccoy have not played well. Alot has to do with the Oline being hurt. Mccoy doesn’t get holes, and Foles isn’t getting any time. But when Mccoy has some holes, he isn’t running well at all. And when Foles has time he is missing WRs

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 12:10 am
Reply to  Muimuiman

Stop it…McCoy is getting no holes…but Foles is getting plenty of time…San Francisco only had one or two sacks…Foles had plenty of time he just missed wide open receivers. On the last play he had Maclin open…missed him, had Celek open in the corner of the end zone…missed him badly…he has been missing wide open receivers all year…and today against the first credible, playoff quality defense he goes against…he was awful…!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 29, 2014 12:28 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

He threw early to Celek because a rusher came unblocked and shady whiffed on the pickup.

Maclin was “open”??? Look again twit. Maclin was running “open” because he was a yard past the endzone running out of bounds.

Least you can do is look at a replay before spouting your ridiculousness.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
September 28, 2014 11:38 pm

Can everybody calm down it’s 1 game with a bad Oline. Wait til we get the guys back then if there still playing the same way then you can say foles is bad , but we all know once the Oline comes back the run game will pick up and foles will be fine this Oline is the Pitts and Cary Williams should be cut ASAP..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 12:16 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

We caught some breaks…we squeezed by and struggled against 3 teams with terrible defenses…but as soon as we came up against someone half-way decent…and SF has key players missing on defense…we dont score a single point on offense…not 1 lousy point..not even a field goal…
This is something really to worry about..
Kapernick played poorly but he at least made a few plays, got some key runs, our defense was sacking him and putting tremendous pressure on him…and he led his team to some key scores….
What did Foles do? Nothing…zip!
I never want to hear about how Foles is better than Kapernick again…head up…Kap kicked Foles ass!

Muimuiman
Muimuiman
September 28, 2014 11:41 pm

And the D played great? We gave up 26 points. We gave up over 200 yards rushing, and we couldn’t get them off the field. How do you spin that. Kaep missed about 5 wide open WRs, and cost them about 14 more pts.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
September 28, 2014 11:43 pm

Was Kendrick’s on field and Cary Williams should traded or cut

Muimuiman
Muimuiman
September 28, 2014 11:43 pm

And I agree gloomy. I’ve seen alot of great qbs struggle against good defenses

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 12:20 am
Reply to  Muimuiman

Great QB’s dont get completely shut out against good defenses….they make a play or two to get their team a score. This wasn’t ‘struggling’…this was just a collapse

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 29, 2014 8:24 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

great running backs don’t run out of bounds for 2 yard loses over and over again for less than 2 yards a carry for 2 weeks in a row. they break tackles in bounds and fight for every inch not go backwards.

antitrust32
antitrust32
September 29, 2014 3:09 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

and Foles made that play by putting the ball literally in Riley Coopers hands in the end zone. Can’t throw it any better. Sure he missed some long throws but god damn it you can not win NFL games, especially against playoff caliber teams, when you have scrubs and 3rd team offensive linemen in the game. Did you watch the game? What the hell was Foles supposed to do when the offensive line was called for holding on many plays we gained first downs on. And Shady gets no yards. So we are constantly in 3rd and 10 or 3rd an 15 situations? They are scrubs. Lets hope Lane can bring the play of the O line up.

Muimuiman
Muimuiman
September 28, 2014 11:48 pm

Hey Songs, how is Vick doing this year?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 12:14 am

Chip should be ripped for not trying Polk some this game.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 12:18 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

try Polk for what? There were no holes at all…SF was getting all kinds of penetration against our run game…just like Brian Westbrook noted…there was nothing there…there is not a RB in the league who could have done anything…the chances we had were in the passing game and Foles stunk…real bad!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 12:25 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

I agree. Foles has been erratic all year. I still could’ve seen Polk on Goaline behind a jumbo at least once.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 29, 2014 12:30 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

This is what you are rolling with:

“The Oline is bad for McCoy but great for Foles”

I hate using the word but I can’t think of another that fits………

you are retarded.

DCar
DCar
September 29, 2014 1:02 am

My thoughts-
This was one of the worst played & play called offensive game, I’ve seen in the last 10 years. Foles was pure garbage today. Shady is a non-factor & has been all year. I don’t want to hear excuses for the o-line either. SF o-line was in just as bad shape & still managed to gash us for 218. No f^#@ing excuses. The only one’s on this defense earning their $$$$ is Jenkins (signing that I ripped), Barwin, & Cox. Finally had a Thornton sighting today. We can’t get any pressure AGAIN, without blitzing. Our ST’s has been phenomenal all year. The worst of the worst, is Kelly is now channeling his inner Andy Hindenburgh, with his play calling & accepting of penalties. BTW, that great 1st rounder that everyone touted, really had a stellar game again? OOPS, must have been someone else. Meanwhile, all Benjamin did, was catch another TD. As for havenoclue trying to bait me, on the other article thoughout the day- maybe you ought to stop having your selective memory, that comes at your convenience & read my comments from last week, & now thuis week. I’ve given praise to Jenkins & have again today. Like I’ve said to you before turd, I’m man enough to eat crow, unlike your coward, no ball ass! Your alter bowing to the front offices in this city, never ceases to amaze me, nor confuse me! All you need to know in REALITY- 30th ranked pass defense. Can’t get sacks without blitzing. 3/4 of our starting secondary are hot garbage. STILL $20M+ under the cap. Team worth $7.5B. The Phillies & Ruin 2morrow are a cruel, nauseating joke! So go f^#@ yourself Havenonuts!!!!

DCar
DCar
September 29, 2014 1:11 am

I see, the 3 septic trolls skayne, songs, & foolbreeze out pounding their chests, all giddy, after a loss & bad game by Foles? Where were you 3 dirtbags last week? Just admit, you 3 aren’t fans, have a racist agenda, & just go the f^#@ away!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 1:16 am
Reply to  DCar

My man DCar lol, and no banana finger typos 🙂 lol

skayne
skayne
September 29, 2014 2:09 am
Reply to  DCar

Kiss my ass DCar, I said nothing about hot garbage Foles. I don’t have to say shit about him, all you have to do is read the comments on the various Eagles blogs about him and people are waking up to Foles Gold.

I didn’t post last week because I didn’t feel like arguing with the various slurpers on here that Foles missed receivers in the last game, including a ball that should have gotten picked off that set off the brawl. He is what he is, but try telling that to the people on here, he was heading to Canton last week.

Your a joke talking about a racist agenda, I don’t like my qbs weak armed and unathletic. There’s like 10 qbs just in the NFC I’d take over Foles, color ain’t got shit to do with it. He’s just like every other mediocrity that Kelly has been able to run his offense with, they’d be up shits creek without Kelly.

DCar
DCar
September 29, 2014 6:46 am
Reply to  skayne

I don’t kiss fruit cakes asses! Sorry I don’t play for that team. Ask one of your cohorts, maybe they can oblidge you!

antitrust32
antitrust32
September 29, 2014 3:11 pm
Reply to  skayne

oh yeah because the comment sections are where you hear all the informed opinions! LOL

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 4:20 am
Reply to  DCar

DumbassCar …yes I do have an agenda…its to win a Super Bowl fool…and Foles is not the man for the job. Chip Kelly cant hide Foles weaknesses every week. Good, competent defensive teams will eventually expose you…Kelly has out schemed teams, taken advantage of their weakness, used the screen game and dump off passes to cover Foles inaccurate passing…but eventually you get beat by talent…Foles not having DJax is a big lost and we will see it more as the season goes on…
Face it…Foles is a back up he is not a Qb that will take us to the big game

DCar
DCar
September 29, 2014 6:45 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Foolbreeze, blah, blah, blah!!! You smiling today, ain’t you bruh? Getting your wish, now that you think Vick is being vindicated? You don’t want a SB, you want a SB your way, with the QB you want! I root for the name on the front, not the back, like you & your cohorts, with the agendas! Beat it numbnuts, you have ZERO brains, nor credibility!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 30, 2014 12:18 am
Reply to  DCar

DumbassCab….you are a complete idiot. The only thing your fool ass roots for in the front…is the damm front office. Your happy as long as we are ‘competitive’…you dont want to win the big game…you dont want to go to the Super Bowl…you want Foles because..he’s the kinda of guy that ‘represents’ the franchise well…
I’m so tired of idiots like you…take your dumb ass to Dallas or some other team…your too stupid to be a true Eagles fan! Fool

DCar
DCar
October 1, 2014 12:26 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Foolbreeze, what kind of drugs are you on? I ROOT FOR THE FRONT OFFICE? I’M HAPPY AS LONG AS WE’RE COMPETITIVE? I DON’T WANT TO WIN THE BIG GAME? I WANT FOLES BECAUSE HE’S THE KINDA GUY THAT REPRESENTS THE FRANCHISE WELL? You got me mixed up with some other nitwits on here, you retarded, delusional, racist, pig with an agenda! Get your facts straight bruh, before make a failed, weak attempt to come back at me! I hate the front office. I don’t bow at Foles alter like Vinnie, or at Vicks like you & your racist cohorts! I want a REAL contender, not the BS hype of the wannabe “Genius” that everyone slurps on! Yet you call me dumb & an idiot? Look in the mirror fucknuts, because you are the only stupid FUCK on here!

tua14768
tua14768
September 29, 2014 8:08 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

@Koolbreeze. We are 3-1, not 0-4. Give Foles some credit. He did deliver a perfect pass to Riley Cooper at the end of the fourth with the game on the line in the endzone. Unfortunately, it went right through Cooper’s hands. You’re talking about Foles as if the last QB starting for this team was adequate.

This is a run-first team, however McCoy is having the worst season out of any offensive player. Even though everyone knows this, people are somehow only attacking Foles. There is no run game or o-line. Without these two huge components to any offense the pass game will suffer. It’s basic football.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 1, 2014 11:06 am
Reply to  tua14768

one thing I do find funny about the above is….” He did deliver a perfect pass to Riley Cooper “….
Foles throws that pass its perfect…other QB’s who shall remain nameless throw that kind of pass and it dangerous..

Epidemic
Epidemic
September 29, 2014 9:25 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Last time I checked we were 3-1 with a relentless team that has balls of steel. Did we have a bad outing? Yes. But I feel comfortable where we are right now. I rather go through these growing pains now then later on in the season we are fighting for playoff positioning. Injuries are a factor whether you admit it or not but I rather have them now and not after week 10. Our defense may not be stellar but they have come up big in 3 of the 4 games we played. To be honest they held the Niners down just enough that if we got something going on offense we would have won the game. It’s a very fair assessment of Foles as he is also suffering from a make shift O Line. BTW please stop mentioning DJAX lol he sucks and this system made a name for him not the other way around. What is he doing now in Washington? What are you going to say “oh but he’s injured” give me a break

greenfan
greenfan
September 29, 2014 9:24 am
Reply to  DCar

I had the same thought when I read through these posts. I knew that when I came on here this morning that they would be loud and proud after the Eagles lost, just as they are nowhere to be found when the team is playing well.

They disappear and then show up with a happiness after we lose a close game. They are internet trolls, not Eagles Fans. They know that they can play on the emotions of hardcore fans because they don’t care about the team. They have silly little agendas that they like to promote, but seeing the Birds win a championship is not one.

DMAN
DMAN
September 29, 2014 1:44 am

I’m so looking forward to see Lane Johnson back in the fold. N

DMAN
DMAN
September 29, 2014 1:49 am

Now we can slide Herramans back to guard. That alone will help the right side of the line. Hopefully Johnson comes out swinging in his first game back..

DCar
DCar
September 29, 2014 6:48 am
Reply to  DMAN

Lame Johnson blows! He’s a turnstile & will continue to be. Another, in the long line, of failed, reaches in the 1st rounder.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 9:33 am
Reply to  DCar

DCar….me and you are going to go to the mattresses on Lane Johnson…he can play! Lmao.

Biglion821
Biglion821
September 29, 2014 7:13 am

All you dudes talking about the oline being an issue, I bet you it won’t be an issue when they look to release McCoy in the off season because of his high salary. Chip Kelly needs to do some adjusting because teams are loading up on the run and daring the wideouts and QB to beat them.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 7:40 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Lmao now they are releasing Shady in the offseason?

You on straight clown shit now.

Biglion821
Biglion821
September 29, 2014 8:31 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Yep system over talent why pay all that money when you can plug and play? If the oline is healthy any serviceable cheaper RB will do right?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 8:35 am
Reply to  Biglion821

More clown shit. Agenda obvious.

Biglion821
Biglion821
September 29, 2014 9:01 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

What’s your agenda? I stated day 1 I don’t like Kelly and all this genius crap but hey I’ll let you guys worship at that alter.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 9:10 am
Reply to  Biglion821

And? Just because you take an idiotic stance doesn’t get you cool points.

Worshipping at the altar? Lmao that’s what happens you post more about troll nonsense on here…. You only start saying nonsense.

Biglion821
Biglion821
September 29, 2014 9:55 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

What’s idiotic is thinking your point of view is the correct point of view all the time. If I’m wrong I can admit but when I see things I don’t like I’m going to post it win or lose. You cats act like Mathis and Kelce are Hall of Famers, dudes need to man up and play football you can scoff at that next man up business but look what Foles did last year, unbelievable that you expect guys to draw NFL paychecks but be happy being reserves and that includes Casey Matthews bum ass.

antitrust32
antitrust32
September 29, 2014 3:14 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I can’t really blame them on Casey Matthews because he is only on the team because all of our ILB depth are hurt.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
September 29, 2014 8:18 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Is that what you see? Cause I saw 4 men rushing the quarterback and the defensive backs playing zone coverage. There was no loading the box. There was no man to man coverage.

Unless you missed the game you saw the offensive line unable to protect or move anyone off the ball while the defensive backs played straight-up zone. Pretty simple. We were beat by the 49ers defensive line.

Biglion821
Biglion821
September 29, 2014 8:24 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

So on that overthrown long ball to Maclin where was the safety? Like I said first and second down safety in the box if it’s a run he’s right there if it’s a pass they back out into a zone, have you dudes ever played football? Seriously 8 in the box doesn’t mean your playing man coverage. Any more questions?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 8:32 am
Reply to  Biglion821

So site one play with a safety down and that was the whole game.

Don’t start you dudes played football line lol with the nonsense you’ve been saying the last few weeks.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 8:33 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

So on the play where Dodge blew upTobin that had something to do with a safety in the box?

Lmao gtfoh with the nonsense.

Biglion821
Biglion821
September 29, 2014 8:56 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Did you not just site ONE play where Tobin got blown up? Last time I checked lineman miss blocks oh wait only back up lineman miss blocks right? Come on man look if they can’t replace Kelce and Mathis I guess the season is over.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 9:05 am
Reply to  Biglion821

There’s missing blocks and theres getting dominated at the lint of attack or have you not ever played football?

Nonsense agenda post to see guys getting DOMINATED at the point of attack and day it wasn’t the Oline play playing a part of it.

Not bad play…DOMINATED.

They were getting manhandled on 4 WR sets with no safety in the box on designed runs. Stop the nonsense.

Every damn team in the NFL puts a safety in the box during the game to stop the run. We do it all game long with our safeties.

The niners killed with their base 3/4 running. Point blank period.

Foles Cooper and the line played like shit.

The other bullshit youre talking is nonsense.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
September 29, 2014 9:07 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Yeah I played some football Biglion, actually I played a little professional football. I never played defensive back, but I would like to hear about this zone defense that allows you to move a safety into the box.. Cover 3 maybe? I never saw the 49ers come out of zone coverage, and I never saw them load the box… why would they…they didn’t need to…

antitrust32
antitrust32
September 29, 2014 3:16 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

yup, Chip even said after the game that the 9ers were getting pressure with 4, allowing them to stay back in zone and keep our WR’s in front. There were 2 deep balls that Foles overthrew, then one he was hit while throwing. the whole offense stunk besides Maclin. That included the offensive play calling. There is a reason Molk was coaching high school football last year.

Biglion821
Biglion821
September 29, 2014 4:46 pm
Reply to  antitrust32

Antitrust yes they rushed four but on first and second down either Reed or Bethea would be in the box and if it was a pass would drop into a zone. Like I said before 8 in the box doesn’t mean you blitz. It’s called disguising coverages.

antitrust32
antitrust32
September 29, 2014 4:52 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

yeah, there were a half dozen times that nobody was open at all, Foles just threw the ball away by throwing it at the feet of a close receiver. Going into the game, I didnt necessarily expect a win because of the circumstances (across the country off an emotional game, but mostly because of having no interior offensive line and Kendricks)… but I am bummed after this loss because it was there for us to win. Hopefully we can get better with Lane in there, create a rushing game so we can open up our passing game, which will help the rushing, etc. ect. lol

tua14768
tua14768
September 29, 2014 8:00 am

I think the o-line needs to get healthy. Additionally, I have always disliked the way the Eagles run the ball. I like the traditional I-formation power running game. If they spend much of the first have beating down the opposing defensive line that will allow more time in the pocket for Foles and better execution on the play action pass. Handing the ball off via the shotgun gives no additional blocker for McCoy.

I don’t think it’s the end of the world to be 3-1 given that there is no o-line. Riley Cooper continues to annoy me seeing that he dropped another touchdown pass. This pass came with the game on the line. Foles threw the ball through three players and Cooper was the only person to put both hands on the ball. Unfortunately, it went right through both of those hands.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 8:09 am
Reply to  tua14768

Cooper is playing his way out of town. He started slow last year, his play has been inexcusable.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 29, 2014 8:15 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

no, he signed a 5 year contract with 2 years guaranteed. He will be the starting wide receiver for all 16 games this year and all 16 games next year. Jeremy Maclin’s status with the eagles is in question. He is a unrestricted free agent on a one year deal.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 29, 2014 8:40 am

the Eagles made a huge mistake with David Molk. He is not an NFL lineman. This is the 2nd time in three years that a Jason Kelce injury imploded the eagles offensive. They cannot count on Kelce nor Molk next season.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 29, 2014 8:41 am

where is Josh Huff?

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 29, 2014 8:59 am

With all the ‘he sucks’, ‘they suck’ bluster…any fan would have been thrilled to death if before the game you saw this scenario….eagles down by 5 with under 2:00 to go ball on the 1 yard line…. best rb in the league, genius playcalling coach…. and you get two really crummy pass plays… i don’t get it at all…

Biglion821
Biglion821
September 29, 2014 9:46 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Exactly

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 29, 2014 9:01 am

Again, I told you the Eagles were not going to win this game coming off the Washington war. That kind of game takes its toll.

The game was only close due to 2 special teams plays and Krapernick’s 7 point gift. I was surprised that the Birds were still in it at the end. Really nice drive that culminated in 2 very strange playcalls. Celek to the corner? (not Ertz) and then a roll-out?? A nick Foles roll-out? Weird.

Concerns:
The Oline is in shambles.
Passing game was horrible, and yes, Foles is still missing guys deep.
Run-game is non-existant.
D is still horrible, only looked marginally ok because Kap is a terrible Quarterback.

Lets be realistic, the “best RB in football” now has 60 carries for 175 yards on the season

He has 39 yards on 29 caries the past 2 games.

People on here ripping the passing game (and they should rip yesterday’s passing effort)….well, the Passing game is light years ahead of the run game. I thought this was a “run-first” attack???

“Next man up” rhetoric is just that. The Eagles haven’t lost 1 or 2 linemen…they’ve lost 4.

Johnson will be back (and I disagree with Dcar – he’s a good player) so that will help, but the Molk, Tobin business up the middle is going to continue to create problems for the next few weeks.

They still have a very good chance to get to the bye at 5-1, perhaps 4-2 and that’s fine. .500 through the next 4 of Ariz/Hou/Car/GB and its 6-4 or 7-3 when these guys come back. for the stretch run.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 29, 2014 10:17 am

Vinnie you are a dumb ass…..”Again, I told you the Eagles were not going to win this game coming off the Washington war. That kind of game takes its toll”

Why would you even post that bullshit? You were one or two play calls from being absolutely wrong…what fan says “my team is going to lose this week, because they played in a tough game last week…”….
The loss of the linemen still didn’t prevent the Eagles from possibly winning that game, did it?

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 29, 2014 11:59 am

Vinnie, no one with a little bit of common sense ‘thought the eagles would win’– we all know its a tough thing to go cross country against a hungry team that has been very good for the last three years!, after the war last week the eagles had!
but damn it they could have stolen this f.ing game! I really think chip pooped the bed a couple times…taking the penalty and the goal line play calling… damn!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 9:07 am

Ertz didn’t deserve to be on the field with his play. His blocking was atrocious and his fumble was a blow. I’m a fan but his play left a ton to be desired.

paulman
paulman
October 1, 2014 10:17 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Word out in the Bay Area is that Ertz was out late Saturday partying with his Stanford buddies and was even seen Dancing at a Club with Condaleeza Rice, so he gets a pass from me on his poor game…

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 29, 2014 9:21 am

that damn game was ‘stealable”! Steal that one and you have a bit of room for error… as it is it doesn’t seem that the east is quite as bad as originally thought…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 9:36 am
Reply to  haveacigar

The Eagles and Giants will separate themselves over from now into November on who is who.

The Cowboys will keep rolling into November….where they have 5-7 on the road with double back to backs I believe. They will show who they are around then.

Our season comes down to Foles play. No more no less. Shore up the line and running game so he can succeed or he has to take the next step and make due and make plays. Its on him.

Fix that damn deepball ASAP.

andrew p
andrew p
September 29, 2014 10:12 am

Bottom line is this, 1-3 last year after 4 games 3-1 this year after 4 games, that’s a major turn around, O line is in shambles, Johnson coming back strengthens two positions, Herriman now goes back to guard, gotta keep in mind, were a second half team in games n from last year in season, if we get through this first half with a winning record look out, our O line will be in full strength by then, our D looked like its coning around, our special teams are the best in the NFL, I will say this, Djax is missed, he would of ram under a few of those overthrown balls to Maclin.

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 10:13 am

To be Honest,
I thought the OL Played pretty well in Pass-Protection.. Foles just laid an egg yesterday, but he had time for the most part… The OL Run Blocking was another story, and poor all game as it was versus the Redskins, But in Pass-Blocking, I thought they played better the 49ers OL did in Pass-Blocking..
I also think that WR R Cooper played pretty well and had his best game of the Season.. He did Drop a potential TD Pass in traffic, but he contributed
Maclin had a strong game and a unbelievable catch on the sidelines
The TE Play was the worst of the bunch, Ertz/Celek seemed to lack the Focus, Speed, Ertz Worse game as an Eagle, Costly Fumble

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 10:48 am
Reply to  paulman

Ertz was terrible yesterday.

Sorry Cooper has to make that catch. Thats the entire purpose for having a big Wr in the end zone. He could have 4 drops and if he made that catch all is forgotten.

zilents44
zilents44
September 29, 2014 10:20 am

Man peeps on here love when we lose dont gotta mention who they are but I tell you one thing I would beat the shit out of them in real life if we ever met but anyway Foles deep ball is shit he just throws it up there hoping his receiver catches it shady plays scared oline cannot run block im so proud of defense yea san fran had 200 yds rushing but look at time diffence we only had like 8 1st downs cooper is not worth the money gotta catch the ball in redzone boykins played bad but cary played terrible chips gameplan was terrible with all that said we should be 5 and 1 at break and ready for stretch run when we should be healthy at least 4 spots on oline and kendricks back

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 10:54 am

If we can get half of that play back from the pass rush in the upcoming weeks coupled with Kendricks coming back I will be a happy fan.

Kelce and Mathis are gunning for the Nov. 10th game.

Thats 4 games to hold down the fort until then.

In that span Foles has to work on his deep ball timing. He is basically just shotputting the ball.

Maclin is comparable to me as being Jordy Nelson whose game I love and Foles should look at how Rodgers and Nelson play together. Nelson isnt a burner but runs great routes and can get separation.

Maclin has been killing fools all year. Hes getting separation and has been open.

In this offense you cant have below 60% passing. Foles is leaving WAY TOO MUCH on the field. He has heart he earned my respect in the Skins game….but still doesnt take away from how incomplete he has been all year.

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 10:55 am

Paulman’s NFC Rankings after Week #4

1) Arizona (3-0) – Bye Week, but still undefeated
2) Dallas (3-1) – 3 Wins in at Row, Best RB & OL Play in 2014 so far..
3) Detroit (3-1) – 2 Wins in a Row, Defense is Playing Better, Stafford cutting down on Turnovers — Golden Tate has been an excellent Aquisition
4) EAGLES (3-1) – Suffered 1st Loss on the Road against a quality Team, though there lots of issues on Offense & Defense
5) Seahawks (2-1) – On Bye Week
6) Giants (2-2) – Winners of 2 in a row.. QB Eli and Receivers are getting on track with new OC McAdoo’s West Coast-Packer System) have solid Running Game and the NFC East’s Best Defense…
7) Packers (2-2) – Played best Game of the Season vs their Divisional Foe, the Bears when it counted the most.. Still has issues on Defense, wheres RB Lacey this Season ?
8) 49ers (2-2) – Saved their Season with a comeback Win over the Eagles
Gave up 21 Points on Special Teams/Int Return but shut down the Eagles Offense all Game long ..
9) Vikings (2-2) – Playing Hard for New HC Mike Zimmer, OC Norv Turner working well with QB T Bridgewater .. It’s time they move on from Adrian Peterson and start a new Identity with the Young Players they have in Tedy Bridgewater, Coradelle Patterson, Jerrod McKinnon, Matt Asiata, Jarius Wright, etc,etc.. All AP is anymore is a Distraction that they don’t need
10) Bears (2-2) – Defensive Secondary giving up big Plays, QB Cutler is Hot and Cold.. Up and Down Team
11) Falcons (2-2) – QB Matt Ryan & Offense Playing Well, Defense still can’t stop anybody… Fun to Watch
12) Panthers (2-2) – Coming back down to Earth and were manhandled the last 2 Weeks by Physical Teams Steelers & Ravens, they have no Running Game, a Shaky OL and QB who is not Playing well in Newton, Have some injuries and suspensions on the Defense and they are playing poorly as a group in 2014..
13) Rams (1-2) – Off of a Bye Week – Blowing 17 Pts Lead at Home last Week Cowboys still stings… Young QB Austin Hill has Played well
Defensive Line has been reading too many clippings about itself and only has 1 Sack
14) TB Bucs (1-3) – Huge comeback Win at Pittsburgh for their 1st WIn
15) Redskins (1-3) – Back down to earth with QB Cousins and his poor play versus the Giants last week
16) Saints (1-3) – All the Hype, Safety Jarius Byrd looked terrible last evening
in 3 TD Plays that I saw versus the Cowboys and to think that Saints gave up Veteran Leaders like Malcom Jenkins, Darren Sproles, J Vilma, W Smith, Roman Harper, Tracey Porter all to make $$$ Room for Byrd is a Joke and as I stated, their Lack of leadership in the Lockerroom is hurting this Team and there is a big disconnect between DC Rob Ryan and HC S Payton and
This is a Team thats about to have its wheel’s fall off in my opinion

mhenski
mhenski
September 29, 2014 11:03 am
Reply to  paulman

ur write up at 1013 is spot on paulman.

loss was solely on foles

chip has to take a little blame b/c his 3rd down and 4th down play call was terrible. especially on 4th down, bootlegging foles and cutting the field in half was dumb.

also ertz takes some heat, if he doesnt fumble we dont lose.

overall frustrating but hey we went into enemy territory and had a chance to win against a team many (not me) view as a super bowl contender.

im interested in wins and it seems like we will be just fine.

tua14768
tua14768
September 29, 2014 11:15 am
Reply to  mhenski

I don’t know if you can put all of the blame on Foles. There was no o-line to run for McCoy. Since there is no o-line for McCoy they can’t run. Since they can’t run, the defense will not respect the run game. Since the run game is not respected, the defense will focus more on stopping the pass. Just because someone has time to throw doesn’t mean they have someone to throw it to.

Additionally, Cooper dropped the go ahead touchdown at the end of the fourth quarter. The ball went right through his hands in the endzone. If Cooper caught the ball it wouldn’t have guaranteed a win, but it would guarantee a lead at that point in the fourth quarter.

If you were to put this solely on anyone, it would be the o-line. Chip and other players/ announcers/ analysts all say the game starts up front and that the Eagles weren’t very good there.

mhenski
mhenski
September 29, 2014 11:22 am
Reply to  tua14768

hey tua. imo foles left way too many plays on the field wayyyyyyyy too many. gave san fran the ball twice too… an average performance gets us a win there…

ur right though. on a lot of the passing plays eagles receivers were absolutely draped but nick had all day to throw and should have found someone with an anticipation throw….

imo dude just left too many plays on the field

mccoy was never going to get his today, i think we all knew that.. one of the best run ds in football (sf) vs a o line comprised of 4 backups including a center that was bagging groceries last year…

im not hating on foles as he is a winner but he shouldve got it done yesterday at the end. and im pretty disappointed he didnt

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 2:46 pm
Reply to  tua14768

Bullshit tua~! The blame is on Foles because he is the QB. He had time to throw the ball and he was terrible. Chip Kelly didn’t do Foles any favors in getting rid of DJax! The field looks so constricted to Foles he has no space there…so his accuracy is terrible

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 11:34 am
Reply to  mhenski

Also when Eagles Defense stopped the 49ers on a 3rd and 3 and Kelly accepted a Penalty to send the 49ers 10 Yards back and make it a 3rd & 13 which Kapernick then Scrambled around the Left-Hand side and kept their Drive going instead of attempting a FG was a questionable decision by Kelly.. No One outside of Special Teams Coach Dave Fipp had a good day yesterday…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 29, 2014 11:54 am
Reply to  paulman

That was a terrible decision. Not only did they pick up the down, but took 2 precious mins off the clock doing so. Couldn’t understand that decision at all.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 29, 2014 11:19 am
Reply to  paulman

If you think that the Eagles, Lions and Cowboys are better than Seattle, then you are drunk.

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 11:29 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

After Week #4 they are for their Record says that they are..
The Good Teams will Rise as the Season Progresses and the Frauds will Drop but right now the Numbers state where everyone is…
Teams that are Undefeated (Cardinals) are have more Wins have to Ranked Higher than Teams with less at this Early Stage of the Season..

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 29, 2014 11:35 am
Reply to  paulman

Oh so it’s record based. Thought you were doing a power ranking.

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 12:30 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

It’s based after 4 Weeks of Games in 2014…
nothing in the Past Matters or how Teams may wind up in Nov/December, have no bearing on my Rankings after the 4th Week in the here and now..

You can look at the NFL/ESPN Power Rankings if you want to follow the masses and the hype….

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 29, 2014 3:28 pm
Reply to  paulman

Dude my assessment is my own. I don’t think that any of the teams with a better record on your list can beat Seattle besides Arizona from watching the games this season. I have seen all of the Eagles games, 2 Dallas games, 2 Seattle and 2 Detroit games from this year.

mhenski
mhenski
September 29, 2014 11:04 am

Lane Johnson – T – Eagles

Eagles RT Lane Johnson’s four-game suspension is over.
An Eagles offensive line desperate for a talent infusion will welcome Johnson back with open arms. He’ll almost certainly slide right back in as the starting right tackle immediately, plugging one of the three holes in this unit. As a rookie last year, Johnson was PFF’s No. 9 run-blocking tackle among 76 qualifiers.
Sep 29 – 9:26 AM

LANE SHOULD BOOST THE RUNNING GAME!

mhenski
mhenski
September 29, 2014 11:06 am

NEWS CIRCULATING THAT LESEAN HIT A GUY ON HIS BIKE WITH HIS CAR A FEW DAYS BACK AND LEFT THE SCENE

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 11:21 am
Reply to  mhenski

I hope they get rid of his ass if Story is True
I cannot stand what McCoy has become off the Field..
A Smug, Arrogant, Ass-Hole..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 29, 2014 11:40 am
Reply to  paulman

Oh boy…here we go. Little league might be better for you then, some of you guys kill me worrying about if a guy is smug and arrogant. He’s a football player, not a cub scout. Guess what, sometimes you come off smug with the way you pound your chest about I stated this and I picked that guy. Come on dude..get over it.

greenfan
greenfan
September 29, 2014 12:16 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Agree with your statment EHL.

Stop looking to run players out of town. He is our all-pro running back. Look at the league, is he a choir-boy….well who is? But compared to some of the wife beating, kid abusing running backs in the league, I would like to see our lousy tipper stay around for a long time. Stop it please.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 29, 2014 11:26 am
Reply to  mhenski

where are we seeing this?

mhenski
mhenski
September 29, 2014 11:28 am
Reply to  haveacigar

barstoolsports has a story about it. coming from some random old ladys first hand account on facebook. not sure if more will come out but id imagine yes especially if their is video

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 11:16 am

Please say youre kidding.

mhenski
mhenski
September 29, 2014 11:27 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

not a joke but it seems it may have been minor… the story goes he hit the kid on the bike at 16th and chestnut Friday night, bike guy is ok but fell, bike guy gets up starts pounding on shadys window pissed off then shady got out of his car told bike guy off then gets back in and drives away in his white bently …

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 11:19 am

NFC East Rankings after Week #4

1) Cowboys (3-1) — RISING – The Best and most Complete Offense right now in the NFC East.. The play good Special Teams and their Defense Weaknesses has been limited since their Running attack and long Offensive Drives keeps their Defense off the Field for much of the Game…

2) Eagles (3-1) — FALLING – Have not played anywhere close to a complete game yet Offense is explosive when clicking, but OL Injuries, Foles inconsistent Play and a lack of a good Running Game is holding Team Back..Special Teams have been great, Defense has been so-so, giving up lots of Yards on the Ground and too many Penalties that keep Drives alive for the other Team

3) Giants (2-2) RISING Winners of 2 in a Row, Have worked out some issues with their OL with 3 New PLayers on it, back to a Strong Running Game with Jennings/Williams and Eli Manning finally getting comfortable in New OC McAdoo’s West-Coast Scheme with Receivers Cruz,Randle,Jernigan, TE’s Donnell and Fells.. Giants DL is still the Best and most Talented in the NFC East, with a rebuilt and solid Secondary..
Their LB Corps is shaky and their weakness

4) Redskins (1-3) Status Quo — Bunch of Offensive Talent, and High Picks on Defense, New Coaching Staff, Whose the Leaders of the Team with RG3 and CB D Hall out for a while.. With Signing WR/Returnman Andre Roberts in March, was it even wise for the Redskins to bring in D-Jax after the Eagles released him ?? ?Right now the answer looks like no it wasn’t worth it..
For D-Jax, would he have been better off going to another Team in need of a Deep Speed WR Weapons like the Raiders,Chargers could have used…
Redskins have lots of Young Talent, but it’s going to take a Year or 2 under New Coach Gruden to get it working in one direction

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 29, 2014 11:44 am

Look.. I love the passion play ..we are all invested (all-in) with this roller coaster ride ..sit down ,buckle it up .i don’t sense that any of us are missing the point that we have a bunch of shit swirling around ..dropped end zone passes takes mo re than 7 off the board ..it’s a lost down and yardage ,it’s stressful ..cooper had been nicks safety blanket ..so far ,without a run game ,without tight end play ,with overthrown deep balls … not making apologies ,but setting your feet ,is essential on connecting on deep balls …nick sucked yesterday ..no excuses ..his lack of putting up a single point is inexcusable..it’s not that there aren’t contributing factors ..but it all falls on him to overcome them ..he’s in game 4 of his first full season ..he and the team are 3-1 ..let’s see what all the micro trolls on this site say ,when a healthy lane Johnson and moving herremans back inside to help the center …who is watching shady …he’s possibly showing how compensating even as the number one back last year can’t make chicken said out of chicken shit ..yet when the same metrics are applied to the QB he isn’t the Man? I’m not buying into this bullshit…guys are releasing guys who last year were in the pro bowl ..that sums up the IQ of these trolls..all I want for Xmas is a way to block these trolls on this site ..they’re like entertainment weekly waiting to create a scandalous post ,hoping to stir the Eagle fans (which they’re not) they prey on true fans passion ..I suggest we ignore them as it’s not constructive dialogue ..it’s bullshit packaged in a paper bag..

mhenski
mhenski
September 29, 2014 12:03 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

it took me a while deserteagle but i blocked them out. i dont even bother responding as it feeds the trolls… its hard and after a few years i finally realized it makes no sense to reply as it is what they want…

whats funny is songs was on here sucking foles dick and saying he was on board with him and what now last week now he bashing him… shows who he is. BUT THE THING ABOUT THAT THAT I AM SCARED ABOUT IS DID HE MUSH FOLES LIKE HE MUSHED EVERY OTHER QB HE HYPES??????

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 29, 2014 12:02 pm

But it is the same thing every week.

Birds win…
Foles supporters give him all the credit for the victory
Foles detractors highlight the play of the rest of the team
Foles gets compared to Joe Montana/Tom Brady

Birds lose…
Foles detractors blame him solely for the loss
Foles detractors highlight the play of the rest of the team
Foles gets compared to trash truck juice (thanks DCAR)

It is always somewhere in the middle, but no one will give an inch on that. There are a ton of reasons why they lost yesterday and Foles was a huge part of it, but not the whole reason as I have seen said on here. Nor should he be blameless like i have also seen on here.

Think about if Cooper makes that catch or they if Kelly didn’t call 2 assinine plays on 3rd and 4th and goal from the 2 yard line and they win the game.

Foles supporters would laud Foles for mental toughness and playing through adversity
Foles detractors would say that they only reason that they were in that situation was because of how poorly he played for the rest of the game.

Both sides are partially right, but one neither will acknowledge the other as having a valid point.

All I know is that you can’t get 3 TDs from the D/ST and lost the GD game.

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
September 29, 2014 2:17 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Truer words were never spoken.

The battle of pro Foles v. Anti-Foles resembles the left v. the right in Congress. Each side cannot wait for their beliefs to be validated week in and week out.

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 2:43 pm

It’s be going on for Years in Philly
Pro McNabb vs the Anti-McNabb
Pro TO vs the Anto TO
Pro Vick vs the Anti Vick
Pro Kolb vs the Anti Kolb
Pro D-Jax vs the Anti D-Jax
Pro NNmadi Asamough vs the Anti Asamough
Pro Assante Samuel vs the Anti-Samuel
Pro Juan Castillo vs the Anti-Castillo
Pro Andy Reid vs Anti Andy Reid
Pro GW Bush vs Anti GW Bush
Pro Obama vs Anti- Obama
Pro Chip Kelly vs Anti-Kelly
Pro Nick Foles vs Anti-Foles

So it goes for infinity…

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 2:41 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Listen I gave Foles credit for the Cooper drop…but Cooper should not have been on the field…it should be DJax, Maclin, and Matthews….with Cooper has a back up receiver! I made it clear…Foles is fine against poor weak defenses…but he will struggle against teams with good defenses and Foles is not a QB that can carry a team. He is ok when everything around him is perfect…he is not a franchise QB, at his best he is a game manager…Foles is not a Kapernick, Wilson, Luck, or Brady or Manning…he is a lower tier QB at best at worst he is a back up

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 2:46 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Get over the D-Jax not being here, he’s gone, nothing you can do it about and that means stop sobbing too…. What you envisioned a year ago means nothing in the hear and the now, and that is the beauty of Professional Sports
Teams Change, Players come and go, Coach’s come and go, Etc,etc
So enjoy what you have and don’t get emotionally involved about Athletes since they could give a rats ass about you

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 5:42 pm
Reply to  paulman

Open your eyes…look at the game, Paulman! This is simply pure analysis and when you give away All-Pro players and get nothing in return you open yourself up to legitimate criticism.
There are simple explanations as to why Foles has looked so lost at times in the passing game this year. There is a reason why you called for the kid to be benched!
The lost of Djax has a LOT to do with it…like it or not!
I predicted that when Foles goes up against tough defenses he would struggle and have a lot of problems. I predicted that the spacing on the field would be affected by the lost of Djax. His lost has hurt Foles in the passing game AND teams are stacking the box with impunity because they dont respect Foles ability to get it deep accurately!
Getting rid of Djax has hurt the team…FACE IT!

greenfan
greenfan
September 29, 2014 12:07 pm

Yeah, I hate that we wasted a good effort from the special teams and defense and ended up losing a close one. No doubt frustrating, but even the best of teams will have a complete disaster game during the season.

-With all of the time that the defense spent on the field, I believe that they did a good job against a team with a number of explosive weapons. Even without Kendricks they were able to do a good job, and that play to Gore was really just a complete jailbreak.

-Special teams was addressed during the off-season, and there is no question that we have seen a big improvement. This is an often ignored part of the game, but it can be a real asset if you can put your opponent in a bad spot, or even better get direct points from their play. Good job this whole year on all aspects of the special teams.

– Kelly and his offense did not show up. Yes we know that the OL has injuries, but is that an excuse to only try and run the ball 10 times? If Shady is hurt, what about Polk? Sproles? This coach showed a real lack of creativity (which is something that I doubted I would ever say) here, the screen game is predictable and there are not any running lanes. Obviously a healthy line would help, but the coach needs to do a better job.

-43 QBR. About as low as you want to see. Was is all Foles, no I guess not, but did he play exceptional, no. Maclin is making plays out there. I want to see more and more of him each week. Cooper is looking more and more like he has been throughout the majority of his career, mediocore and not afraid to drop a big pass in a crucial situation. Really had hoped that he would continue to play like he did at the end of last year, but it looks like the clock has struck midnight for cinderella.

-That Ertz fumble was a killer. Give the defense some credit for making a good play, but that really sucked for the birds. Need to hold on to that ball.

No jumping off a bridge here. This team has shown too many flashes of the ability to be a great team that it is the inconsistancy that will drive us crazy. Has the league figured out Kelly and Foles…well overall this season they are still scoring at a high rate, but there is no doubt that they are challanging the young QB to beat them. I believe that this team will come back strong and start beating up on the NFC East teams soon enough.

All being said, and as absolutely terrible as the ofense played yesterday, they were still only 1 1/2 yards from winning the game. This team is never out of it, and while they may not win them all, they are going to be pushing right until the very end.

GO BIRDS!!!!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 29, 2014 12:19 pm

the center ( David Molk) tips the defense to the play at the snap= he gets no push so he immediately tries to use quickness to shield a defender telling the entire defense where the play is going —

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 12:33 pm

Molk only goes about 290lbs and is over-matched at the point on contact
He’s strength is getting up to the 2nd level and out in space, but he is not road grinder for sure.. a solid Back-up but will struggle versus big NT’s

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
September 29, 2014 12:43 pm
Reply to  paulman

They showed how they played in the preseason. Better in pass protection bad in run blocking.

However this offense is built around the run. So if we cant run…AND our QB plays like shit.

FUGGGEDABOUTIT.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 29, 2014 12:39 pm

Washington and San Fran used a NT on the Small eagle center — the next two games the birds will be facing a 4-3 line so maybe that will help the running game a little by taking pressure off the Center. Additionally the two guards won’t have to chase LBs too.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 29, 2014 1:07 pm

Lane Johnson goes to RT and Herreman back to RG —
Who gets the LG spot sunday Tobin or Kelly?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 29, 2014 1:20 pm

I’d give it to Kelly as he is more experienced and stronger. Tobin isn’t ready.

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 1:52 pm

I thought Dennis Kelly played pretty well yesterday
Tobin was unsure of himself all Game long and to be fair, hasn’t played in about a month .. Lane Johnson will be rusty also and will a couple of Weeks under his belt before he plays at the consistent -high level… Anyone who thinks he’s going to step in after not playing since August 28th is Fooling himself ..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 2:33 pm

What a bunch of frauds…the ever shifting standards…when McNabb or Vick was the QB…the losts were their fault…but with Nick Foles its the offensive line, the wideouts, its the coach…its everyone but poor little Nicky!
Face the facts…the QB failed to make the plays to win the game. Its not just about losing a game. Its the way we lost. This is the best defense Foles has ever faced has an Eagle and what happens-a dismal 42% passer rating, missing wide open receivers, inaccurate passes…shaky in the pocket.
The coach did Foles no favors by getting rid of his best receiver…he needs to add a fullback, help the running game and help Foles out…because if the running game does not improve, and teams continue to try to make Foles beat us…we are in trouble!
I say this is Foles that you will see against good defenses…he can’t throw the deep ball accurately…teams are going to crowd the box and then drop back into zones and dare Foles to beat them…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 29, 2014 2:48 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

So far with no run game he’s had one great game and one bad game. Relax. He doesn’t have a decade of ineptitude that ate up all of your former hero’s credibility as a starting QB.

Love the Koolidtiot logig:

“He needs to add a fullback…” Ya he’s going to completely change his offense mid-season. BTW – where are these magical Fullbacks hanging out? Fullbacks R us?

And this fabulous insight:

“teams are going to crowd the box and then drop back into Zones….”

So which is it putz? They going to crowd the line, or drop back? Both at the same time?

SF did not crowd the line at all. They did the exact opposite. Rushed 4 all day and everyone else dropped back. They didn’t need to crowd the line because the Eagles oline is a mess and they could both stop the run and generate pressure with 4 guys. They were then able to drop back into zones, and this obviously had a pretty detrimental effect on the passing game.

Teams are not going to “crowd the box” against this oline because they don’t need to.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 6:01 pm

vinniedaloser your a verified Fool! What game were you watching. First, crowding the line is not the same has stacking the box idiot. You can stack the box to have the safety their for run plays and drop him back in coverage…this is what SF did…the Eagles vertical threats are not the same…you couldn’t do it last year because of DJax blazing speed that scared the hell out of defenses…so they kept the safety out of box…making it easier to run the ball FOOL.
Now, no one is afraid of the Eagles deep without Djax and so SF did stack the box…the proof of that is the 7 tackles by Bethea who was the 8th man in the box…watch the tape Fool!

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
September 29, 2014 2:53 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Dude if this were Vick or McNabb who scored no offensive points after being gifted 21 all hell would have broken loose.

I remember 2012 when the line was abysmal and it was still all Vick’s fault.

Now with Foles it’s “what’s our record” or “the line” or “the receivers” or “it’s not that bad” or “it’s only one game”

Okay.

We lost a game b/c we scored NO offensive points after being gifted 21. That has happened only ONE other time in NFL history.

That’s all you need to know about how putrid the 49ers game was.

mhenski
mhenski
September 29, 2014 3:58 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

vick has/had a track record of being an awful qb, being a losing qb, and being a turnover machine. not foles. so until nicks track record changes (which its starting to) we will have his back. not gonna turn on him after 1 awful game…

have some perspective… things arent so cut and dry even though you want them to be

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 29, 2014 4:12 pm
Reply to  mhenski

And they say I’m the one who keeps bringing up Vick.

Kool and TS with such a victim complex when it comes to MV7wins. “Whaaa, whaaa….you were a meanie to our hero when he lost games, why don’t you treat Foles the same wassss waaaaa”

Freekin’ baby-la-las.

Foles has 9 300 yard games over his 20 starts. Vick had 15 over his 109 starts.

Foles is better than Vick ever was. Get over it.

Foles will also have bad games. Every QB does. Especially young QBs. Get over it.

The difference is that young QBs get more leeway because of their limited experience. If Foles is playing like Vick did a 10 years from now, he won’t get any slack…trust me.

Wait….if he played like that for a decade he won’t be in the league. How the former superstar managed to keep his career going playing so poorly is one of life’s greatest mysteries.

I am extramely concerned with Foles play this year, though I believe there are some mitigating factors to consider. I am happy to tell you he needs to improve. That being said, he’s thrown for 300 yards in 3 of his 4 starts and the team is 3-1. They went into the 49ers house with a mash unit up froon, and no run game. GHe still put a pass into his WRs hands at the end of the game.

Cooper catches that and you crybabies are still hiding in your Vick bunkers waiting for the next time Foles throws an interception.

greenfan
greenfan
September 29, 2014 4:34 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

It is sadly predictable, but really funny. I keep reading similar posts from various sites, where they like to refer to the treatment that the birds qb’s in 2008 and 2012 recieved. Very funny actually how this people like to work. It also is not hard to read how happy they are that the Birds lost and that Foles did not play particularly well. It liiustrates clearly where they are coming from.

Well the truth is, it wasn’t just McNabb and Vick that the fans were “tough” on. They did the same thing with most every other QB that ever played here. They built our hopes up on Bobby Hoying, you think that he remembers the fans fondly? What about Kolb? Yeah, Randall was treated pretty well, but if my memory serves Jaws had plenty of detractors during his playing days.

If Foles wins, and the team progresses, than he is the man. If he plays more erratic as he has this season and the team does not win, then all of you haters will be posting here with glee. Because you are not about this team winning a championship although you will throw that in there sometimes to try and confuse the simple minded from your actual motive, which is to somehow feel revenge for a wrong that you believe was perpetrated against the QB’s from 2008 and 2012. Not a fan to me.

paulman
paulman
September 29, 2014 3:10 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

The Eagles Won 2 Games that they were very fortunate to Win and could have easily lost and now they Lost a Game they coulda,shoulda Won.. It all evens out and your Record is what you are…

I say every Good Defense does what you listed about regardless of who they play… Crown the Box to take away the Run, Play Zone to not get beat over the Top and give up the Big Play… What am I missing here..
Whats new about these Defenses that a Young QB or OC isn’t prepared about …. Good Grief KB….
.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
September 29, 2014 7:19 pm
Reply to  paulman

There is nothing new at all paulman…Kelly/Foles knows exactly what the defenses are doing to him…the question is does Foles have the skills to beat the good defenses with pinpoint, accurate throws. If we are going to run this offense with Foles, in the long run…he is going to have to make passes that Phillip Rivers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning can make to hurt defenses. He is going to have to be that style of QB…this is the pressure that Chip Kelly put on him in getting rid of DJax.
I dont think Foles can consistently make those kind of throws under pressure from the pocket like the QB’s that I mentioned…he is just not that good…he’s a back up…bottom line.

antitrust32
antitrust32
September 29, 2014 4:09 pm

We should have won this game. If Kelce was in there we would have won. Way too many penalties, lack of run game, poor passing, many 3rd and longs because of penalties and lack of run, missing the deep ball twice, dropping sure touchdowns that hit you in the hand (Cooper needs to stop that). You don’t win in the NFL when you have scrubs on your Offensive line. Too be honest I still cant believe we pulled off the win last week after Kelce went down. With that said, hopefully the defense can build on their better effort, special teams were great, with Lane back hopefully our O line solidifies at least enough to scare teams with the run game. Also, I would not be afraid if we had to face the 49ers in the playoffs, they were in desperation mode and still needed the game handed to them to win.

rotaryfiend
rotaryfiend
September 29, 2014 4:22 pm

At what point and time do we scour the FAs for some new linemen? Kelly has to be somewhat worried. Especially at center with Molk.

Rhino
Rhino
September 29, 2014 4:30 pm

ok..so the trade i wanted to get rid of cary williams cant happen because claiborne is out for year now…on a serious note…cary was one of the reasons we lost…3rd and 15..we sack kap and take them out of fg range..flag!!!!! Holding on fukin cary williams!!!! Then they go on to score a td on him to go up 23-21…turning point of game…

I mean i know ertz fumbled..but the defense bailed him out till sorry ass williams held the receiver. We need to look hard for cb. Bench this dude cary. Fletcher played alright. Excuse my rambling..just pissed off!!!!