Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie released the following statement regarding the new structure of the Eagles front office and the status of his football organization.
Today, we made an important announcement and one upon which I would like to offer further perspective.
In the normal process of evaluating the end of the season, I meet with key executives for thorough discussions and evaluations of all aspects of football operations. During those lengthy meetings this week, we discussed a comprehensive approach on how to seamlessly integrate the personnel and coaching departments in order to maximize every facet of the process.
Working with Chip, Howie and Don we came up with what we believe will be a more thorough and thoughtful model that would best be overseen by Chip. It’s most important that we find players that match what our coaches are seeking.
This new approach goes even further than we have in the past starting with Day One of the scouting process. This is part of an all-encompassing vision that takes you from the scouting process all the way to on-field performance.
Howie, Chip and Don are all united in their desire to win. Together, we decided this approach was the best course of action for the Philadelphia Eagles.
You have heard me say many times that I want strong leaders who feel free to express their opinions. And that is what happened here. Chip will now lead this process going forward with the continued full support of Howie, Don and myself.
Chip will not be doing this work by himself, obviously. He has been charged with recruiting and hiring a new personnel executive that will report directly to him and together we will move forward with this new, highly integrated approach.
When I said – after the Giants game – that Howie was returning as general manager next season, I meant that. But after carefully listening and reflecting on the lengthy discussions that I had with our senior team, I changed my mind.
I have a very good relationship with Chip that continues to grow stronger and stronger. When we spoke, he was thoughtful, thorough and professional. There were no demands, no threats- quite the contrary- he was passionate, engaged and articulated a dynamic and clear vision on how this fully integrated approach will work. We look forward to seeing it come to life over time.
Let me also stress that Howie will continue to play a vital role in our operation. He has been elevated to the role of Executive Vice President of Football Operations and received a contract extension.
In closing, we have looked hard at where we are today and what we want to become. We are all united in our desire to win for this city.
Putting together everything I’ve read over the last few days.. This is what I THINK happened. Of course I do not know…. No more than pman for example.. But this is what I see…
Through the season Chip/gamble belittled howie.
Howie told this to Jeff.
Howie and Jeff fired Gamble.
Chip made a push… Explained his side… Told Jeff how Andy… And a billion coaches feel… What is said about the lawyer. It made sense.
Jeff went back and demoted Howie.
Now we are off and running.
Il be honest. I’m not a huge fan of this yet. We all want to know why Chip drafted so many ducks. We all want to know who picked the first rounder last year. Who is accountable to that? Was it gamble? I’m not so sure.
What matters is who the Gm will be… Who are they getting to help Chip? A college guy? A low level someone somewhere? We need a D. Who is getting us the weapons we need?
Guess Lurie decided keeping Chip happy was more imprtant than keeping Roseman happy.
Looks like Howie won the battle (getting Gamble fired) and lost the war (getting demoted).
Things will be interesting moving forward.
Wasn’t a Roseman guy but gave credit for the 2012 draft. The 2013 draft, still not sure if more him or Chip. But from all reports, the 2014 draft was heavily Chip. If this last draft is any indication of Chip’s personnel evaluation prowess; I’m nervous as shit. People can call Roseman a bean counter, clerk, Lurie lapdog or whatever,but the last draft (2014) apparently has “Lord Chip’s” stench(for now) all over it. Just hope he doesn’t mortgage the future for Mariota -who I like- instead of buckling down and building all facets through good drafting.
All Facets will mean nothing if your quarterback leads the league in turnovers and is injury prone.
The most important position in the NFL(QB) must get fixed first if this team is looking to win against top teams in this league.
Free agency can help the secondary, the defensive line is in place…we just need a serious threat at QB and if Chip can pull of moves that eventually lead to acquiring Mariotta or a QB that strikes fear in opposing defense then I’m all for it.
Our Special teams are ready….The defensive front 7 is ready..our Running game is ready.
If Chip improves the secondary, replace Cooper with a threat on the outside and give us a threat at QB, this team will have a good run in the playoffs next season…
The league is wide open and doesn’t take much to improve quick.
I don’t think Chip will waste another season in hopes of an improved Foles.
Even after the 27-2 season Chip made it clear that he was looking for Foles to improve and we all see how that went when Foles didn’t have receivers running free with the loss of Djax.
The Eagles can take the next step…
I beleive Chip will find a way to get down low enough to swing something.
If you see the Eagles move down in the low teens within a few months know Chip is serious about addressing QB now, but if he stand pat that means he’ll let Foles compete and play out the final year knowing the Eagles have tag rights that will keep him if he drastically improves.
Name the QB putz.
Who’s available that’s better.
And if you name a rookie, you are a joke. A rookie QB behind centre next year and its 7 wins – max.
So name me this mysterious “threat” qb that will be available. I’m curious.
PROSPECT FRONT RUNNER FOR EAGLES GM POSITION?
Chip Kelly‘s search for a a new personnel executive is underway.
Ed Maryonwitz has emerged as a “serious candidate”, according to Pro Football Talk. Maryonwitz is currently the Eagles’ assistant director of player personnel.
Prior to joining the Eagles in 2012, he worked as the director of player personnel for the University of Alabama, playing a key role in the program’s recruiting efforts. He was a scouting assistant for the Dolphins before that, working alongside Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland.
The Media, PA native played quarterback for LaSalle University.
Maryonwitz is considered one of the up-and-comers in the organization.
“Chip will not be doing this himself, obviously,” said Jeffrey Lurie, upon handing full personnel authority over to Kelly. “He has been charged with recruiting and hiring a new personnel executive that will report directly to him and together we will move forward with this new, highly-integrated approach.”
Like the pedigree so far Ehl.
In my Opinion what has happened, is done..
Moving forward, if we don’t see Chip Kelly
Replace DC Billy Davis & QB Coach Bill Musgrave,
then I am not sure about his Overall Football Acumen..
Kelky needs to Hire a strong Football Mibd and Talent Evaluator
And Focus on upgrading His Staff all in the next
7 Days, then use the following Off-Season to
Focus on Free-Agency, Draft and Contracts/Extensions
For the key young Core Players
If Chip Kelly brings back DC Billy Davis,
Then he is wasting Year 1 of being in Charge..
MAybe he gives him 1 more Season with an upgraded Secondary to see what he can do, But I think he should cut the chord with him immediately.
Well guess what paul?…Chip has already said that Billy Davis is his d-coordinator and he will be back in the same capacity. That is not going to change. Gotta move on from that.
He said it in his morning presser after the Giants game.
Well a lot of things that were said after the Giants Game from everyone have not held up for very long either…
If he truly evaluates his Staff as he said he was going to do,
I am not sure why he would bring him back?
Total NFL Defensive Rankings
2013 – 29th Overall
2014 – 29th Overall
If Kelly’s a numbers and metrics guy as he says he is,
Then how can you bring Davis back who had 2 Seasons with most of the same Players and no overall improvement ?
What’s the Benchmark ?
Good Point Paul……
You know how I feel…Ken Norton Jr Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ken Norton Jr would be an excellent Hire GMCliff
He’s moved up thru the ranks as an NFL Coach and would
Be a great Fit for helping rebuild this Eagles Defense
Which has been pretty bad for about 6-7 Years now
Is t it funny that two failed eagles DC are squaring off .. Kickoff in five minutes?
I seem to remember many bloggers on here pissing and moaning about both of them. Screaming that Todd Bowles couldn’t even manage a secondary (he was secondary coach) let alone a defense. Sean McDermott was over matched etc…The wheels on the bus go round and round…
The difference between Todd Bowles (hot HC prospect) of today and TB of the eagles day is minute, a player here or there, a break here or there…
Fair eval hac. Amazing what talent and true leadership does for a team. He never stood a chance under Reid’s cluster you know what.
Brewski, this morning I re read some stuff from AR last year. I had totally forgotten about washburns insubordination and getting canned… What a fucking disaster… AR absolutely lost perspective of what was important… When you look at his coaching tree you know he’s no joke but those last couple of years, hiring an all star staff and signing an all star team just goes to show that football is about culture and gelling and tEam first dtuff
Ice gone back and forth about a new DC or not. The problem for me is this… We have watched DC after DC come and go without giving them good Cbs. The 29th stat 2 years in a row don’t mean much with this O putting the D out there about 2 games more per season. What I want to know… And what would determine the need for a new DC is this…
1. Whos call was it to sit and watch corners and safeties get locked up during fa last year? Whomever it is should be shot.
2. What do they feel we need outside this year? Are they going to pay to get it?
3. How bad would a new system screw with what they have? Because as bad as they are… They are light-years better at getting to the Qb as they were under Andy.
So… Unless Davis was the brains behind keeping both our corners…. I say he gets another year because they actually look to be moving toward better.
steveo, problem is, everywhere Davis has been the DC, his defenses has been below standard.
I agree. I didn’t like them grabbing him. However… Im not sold that replacing him gets us over the hump.
paul, don’t get me confused, I agree with you. I would love to see Vic Fangio come in here. However, I don’t think Chip will do it because of his loyalty and stubbornness, think keeping Bradley Fletcher in the game.
My take on rebuilding the Defense is
With a pretty good & Young DL, and the fact the Eagles will probably
Have 3-4 New Players in the Secondary, and 1-2 in the LB Corps,
then why waste Another year with B Davis?
I would rather get a Ken Norton Jr, Ed Donatell
And rebuild the Defense since half of them will be new to the Team and playing with each other anyways..
Well paul, like you told me..correctly by the way… That must be taken up with Kelly. I’m looking at Kelly’s loyalty, stubbornness, and the fact that he does not concern himself with the defense..his words!
Don’t see how some of the people are for this move when they were against the DJax cut or lack of secondary upgrades. Those were Kelly decisions through and through. No GM would have cut an in his prime Pro Bowl player for nothing when he was still under contract for multiple years. If you want to get rid of him, you make a trade, plain and simple. It was bogus to claim DJax couldn’t be moved because he had hardly any guaranteed money left on his deal. Any team could trade for him knowing that they could cut him after this season if he didn’t work out. The Jets traded for Harvin with that exact thinking in mind.
Fletcher and Williams being here with no real upgrades made in the secondary are Kelly’s fault. The proof is that either Kelly or Davis would give spirited defense of both players when asked about their performance and refused to try anyone else at their positions. If these were guys that were forced on you because the GM didn’t want to spend in free agency, no way do they keep their jobs with no challenge from anyone else on the roster. The mediocre Oregon Ducks being on this roster should be obvious to anyone who’s responsible for that. The next play Jeff Maehl makes will be the first, yet he made this roster two years running. Taylor Hart in the third round? I mean c’mon!
Don’t understand the hatred of Roseman. He made mistakes in the past with the 2011 draft, but rectified those errors with the 2012 draft, which is the bedrock of this roster. The 2013 draft he was mostly in control of yielded 3 starters. The 2011 free agent haul shows he isn’t afraid to swing for the fences, or spend money. I blame the coaching staff for getting the least out of those players. Namdi was a consensus top corner, it took him being asked to be what he’s not for him to fail miserably here. If there’s anyone who thinks they can win with mediocre talent it’s Kelly. He’s always looking for mediocre players who buy in one thousand percent to his methods rather than talented players who buy in at 95%.
If Kelly doesn’t improve drastically in how he evaluates players this will be a monumental error. The fears I had about Kelly were his dealings with players who are now grown men not completely under his thumb, and whether he would seek lesser talents instead of managing the egos you have to deal with at this level. I was all aboard his offensive system and sports science. This offseason was a complete fuckup that was largely due to his decisions. Him getting all the power now doesn’t inspire confidence.
Skayne….very well thought out and written!
Great points. As far as giving credit for Rosemen… We know nothing about who he did and did not bring in. THATS the problem with the system they have had. Maybe he was the brains behind the 2014 #1 pick. Maybe HE was the reason we had vice young. We just don’t know. I agree tho… Chip has done NOTHING to show he knows D. Or that he knows anything about drafting players.
Cutting Jackson was fine. It’s all conjecture that hey would have been better or worse (yes that’s a possibility) with him. It’s water under the bridge, it was a decision made and the man that made it moves on. The eagles were obviously not primed for a SB run… He’s gone get over it
This is a great move, no more finger pointing… One man, one decision,…perfect.
If you do t think THIS is the man ok, only time will tell but organizationally it had to be done, has to be stuck with thru thick and thin….all the upheaval in previous years was due to in fighting and politics… This should remove that dynamic… Lurie has GOT to stick to his guns at this point… If he allows Howie a midnight audience where Howie tells tales late at night in a whispered tone then the disaster will continue
It’s not conjecture, numbers don’t lie. Cooper was the # 2 he had 500+ yards
Let’s say Jackson was the #2, he gets you 1100 yards
Maclin, 1200 yards.
Simple math! Maclin, Jackson and Mathews is more formidable than Maclin, Bum ass Riley Cooper, and Mathews. Obviously we are not getting over it because it continues to put a spot light on talent evaluation here by Kelly.
Only you label them with a number ..the top three WR this year had more yards and TD then the top three last year.. Those are real numbers… Look it up
Maclin , Jackson and Mathews would be more productive…stop with the madness. if you think Cooper is a better option with mac and Mathews than Jackson, you are foolish!
When you say ‘let’s say Jackson got…’ …um that’s the definition of conjecture… Lol
Conjecture=speculation, guess lol
No, Jackson had over 1100 yards this year, I am saying let’s say simply acting if he is on the Eagles…the #’s are solid…sorry!!! LMAO
‘Lets say’… In the real world you can’t do that because it’s conjecture!
You also don’t know and can’t measure because it’s conjecture what impact he would have to the negative… Move on from him, you weren’t i. Meeting rooms or in practice, you can’t say what his impact would have been both positive or negative…
Stop focusing on cooper he became the number three option since you like to decide the number.. His numbers were of a third WR… Don’t get caught up in funny money that is not yours
HAC…Cooper did not become the #3 option, just because his bum ass did not catch enough passes and make enough impact plays that a #2 wideout is supposed to make does not make him a #3. He was always opposite of Maclin on the outside, that’s what made him the #2, as the slot guy is the traditional #3..this is simple football. We can’t change the rules to give credence to your silly argument. Sure, you would like me to stop focusing in on him because it points out the failure of him being the #2 option as well as a failure in talent evaluation. You don’t give 25 million to a #3 receiver. And sorry HAC, you do not get to set the rules here as far as what I get to think about. This is simple football. Just because it does not fit into your perfect scenario of the Eagles organization to make the correct decisions talent wise does not mean that it is not correct. I will not move on from Cooper, he is an abject failure at the 2 wideout position. I don’t have to be in the meeting room…what is wrong with you? LOL. He was paid to make the plays he made last year and be that player, not the bum he turned out to be this year. Dropping a spot on game winning pass against San Fran, disappearing in multiple games, throwing his QB under the bus, talking about Mac’s contract situation, running the wrong routes…lmao..WTF? Here’s what I do know for a fact, DeSean never produced at such a low rate, he would have easily doubled Cooper’s output with Maclin on the opposite side. Cooper performed better with Jackson than with Maclin, so I know Jackson would have easily outperformed Cooper. It’s not even close! You are arguing a ridiculous counterpoint. Cooper should not even be on the team. Like I said, PFF rated Cooper the worst wide receiver in the entire NFL. One thing I have come to know about you HAC, you like to try to prove people wrong, even when you clearly, truly have no idea what you are talking about. Enough said!
Again eagles have landed… You and bloggers are assigning numbers, I assume based on paycheck that this guy is the #1, #2 and 3…..
You are focused on him being the number two option… Why? He wasn’t.. For the record I don’t like cooper, never have… I’ve rooted for him as an eagle etc… But you really seem hung up on money that isn’t yours? It is something I don’t get. So in 13 when avant made like 2 million and cooper made 500 grand or whatever it was did that make avant #2 even tho cooper had more catches?
You are focused on money and what ifs…. There are no such thing as what ifs
HAC, no, as I stated, I am assigning Cooper a number as to where he lined up, on the outside, opposite side of the field of Mac, which is where all #2’s traditionally line up, and the percentage of snaps he took on the field. QB progression reading is simple, first, second, third, fourth option.
Cooper received his $ based off of last years performance and what he was projected to do going forward. What if Coop continues to progress. let’s give him X amount of $ based on that past performance and base future projections off of past performance. Simple formula they use to sign players to contracts. Cooper is the #2. You can’t win this argument, your argument is pay no attention to the $. My argument is look at where he lined up on the field and the # of snaps.
Landed, you obviously don’t know who our coach is… He sees that whole shit in a different a way. In a traditional, john madden 100 years ago or even bill Walsh that might be accurate… Kelly sees each game, defense differently… Let me ask you didn’t it look easy to get ertz 15 catches? That made ertz number one.. Kelly could care less what your contract says, where you line up etc… That’s our coach… Get used to it
HAC, um, why wasn’t Ertz playing more than Brent Celek? Because he did not earn that playing time and because Celek was a better blocker. Sounds pretty traditional to me. Matter of fact, Chip’s play calling was rather Andy Reid-ish this year. I am used to that. Truth be told, I don’t think any of us know who Chip Kelly really is. Um, you do know that when Jordan Mathews was drafted Chip said that Mathews was not going to play the #2 spot because he wanted him for the slot. So Chip acknowledged the # 2 receiver position and the slot position. So if chip calls receiver position by numbers 1,2, and the slot, I think it’s ok for me to also. Once again, this is football, as much as you want to embellish Chips system, even he says it’s not complicated, it’s simple. They run four formations and the QB decides where to go with the ball according to the formation. Those formations have 1,2,and a slot receiver. Do you actually think Cooper could be the main receiver, a #1, of course not…I hope you don’t anyway..lol. You do know the best cornerback is assigned to the best receiver, the #1, the next best corner normally gets the #2, and the nickel back, gets the slot receiver. Don’t try to make Kelly’s system complicated, it’s not, Kelly said it, not me. Sounds like you don’t know who the coach is. I know one thing for sure. SF, GB, Seattle and Arizona did not think Kelly’s offense was nontraditional. They laughed at it, SF, GB, and Seattle defenders said they knew what was coming…not to complicated HAC, not to complicated.
Chip said he is going to play in the slot, not the number two.. You are locked into semantics …. Fact is the top three WR this year performed better than last years.. Would maclin mesean and Matthew have been better? Maybe … It would be a guess from me and you as well…
Ertz got into Chip’s doghouse because his man ( Whitney Mercilus ) broke Nick Foles shoulder. Ertz did not give 100% until the whistle as he half ass pushed Mercilus away from the pocket and quit on the play. Mercilus did not quit and kept playing until the whistle and slammed Foles to the ground. Lack of effort was why Ertz was MIA in the middle of the season.
Good point zero
Also the day Matthews was drafted Kelly stated he will get most of his reps out of the slot, he didn’t say he is number 1, 2 or 3.
Kelly doesn’t label it like that get used to it…
You are too focused on coopers contract…I think you would be brutally surprised if you sat in on an end of the year offensive meeting where the coaches were candid about personnel moving forward… Btw I’d love to be in that room!
I’m not locked into semantics, it is what it is. You want to turn it into something other than what it is.
It’s not a “possibility” it’s a FACT they would have been better…Check Jackson’s annual stats, average them and add them to the 2014 Eagles and it would have made HUGE difference. That’s not even considering how much of an impact he has on defenses that directly lead to improving other players.
Skayne, I’ve not talked to one person or read one comment by anyone here that actually believes that this is a good idea. I don’t know anyone that’s felt like the favoritism towards members of Kelly’s previous amateur team is beneficial for the Eagles. How I see this going down is precisely what you’ve said…instead of having a talented playmaker that can think independently, like say a LeSean McCoy, Kelly will trade him and get a generic RB like Shonn Greene and allow Kelly to do all the thinking for him.
The only benefit is seeing an over zealous individual so clearly incompetent as talent evaluator removed from making any decisions related to talent evaluation.
…As for Roseman’s track record and the justified criticism of him.
The guy has never played football at any organizational level, has never been around football players and it shows even after being coddled in a professional football organization for 16 years.
The 2010 “Fast Ball” draft was horrible (Brandon Graham may be the last guy standing from that draft after this year), the 2011 draft was horrible as we all know. It was also clearly Howie Roseman’s vision to create the “Dream Team” that never was that year. We know this if only going by the title other executives labeled him after their initial interactions…”The Shakedown Artist” based on that we know that it fits a pattern and style of management. He’s flashy, takes shortcuts routinely and is constantly peeking at other people’s tests. AR certainly wouldn’t have gone on a mission to build a mercenary “Dream Team.”
It’s fairly well known that after the “Dream Team” debacle and those two horrendous drafts that were wastes of time, energy, money the scouting department was turned over.
Roseman gets 0 credit for the 2012 draft Rick Mueller is primarily responsible for that and it was what he was hired for. Roseman needed somebody to save his ass.
It’s important to detail all of these things if only to outline the fact that if there weren’t EXTREME favoritism/cronyism involved Roseman would have been out in some public, non-sports related, New Jersey law firm YEARS ago.
Good post Skayne
Chip Kelly in his first Official Capacity as Personnel Player Boss
announces New Contract’s
For Casey Matthews, Jeff Maehl & Kijon Barner and
He also extends Deals to Taylor Hart,Brandon Bair
And Signs QB Dennis Dixon to a Guranteed 3 Year Deal
My Sources now have the Eagles approx $2.5 Million
Under the Cap going into 2015 Season
Meanwhile,Howie Roseman,has ordered 3 Truckloads of
Toliet Paper for the Linc’s Restrooms & Locker Room’s Facilities
Good Times in 2015…
LMAO…nothing would surprise me!
I heard Howie just got a few more duties added to his role.
He’s now the official candy machine shaker in the cafeteria when purchases get stuck in the spiral.
lmao
Got the Panthers on
Watching 2 Rookies on Panthers D
CB Benwiekie & Safety Tre Boston
Who have been a part of the Panthers D turn around
And players I liked out if the Draft last Year
A couple of Free-Agents on Cardinals Defense that could help the Eagles
OLB Sam Acho and CB A Cromartie
And CB J Powers..
You guys are not following the $$$ …this move was hastened ,by the owner flapping his gums ..answering a question after the Giants game…Yes howie is my GM ..that emboldened the lil fucker who ,then looked to purge his antagonists …he had Gamble fired while chip on New Year’s Eve was off dining on webbed feet and wings at the rose bowl ..shooting one across Chips bow was completely miscalculated ..Jeffrey with any semblance of corporate sanity ,would have said ,listen we need to involve Chip in this decision ,then and only then would have a sane by committee,decision be made …instead Jeffrey ..gave Chip an opening and for the first time all season chip played red zone offense ..successfully …he took a selfie of his ass …walking out the door ..Jeff opened that door and chip kicked it in..this wasn’t done with due diligence ,it was a reactionary blink mode decision..now you just backed yourself into the proverbial corner ..a more sane approach and negotiation ,should have and could have been done addressing Gamble ..Jeffrey keeps impeccable notations..he and only he had leverage ..he could say ..look you wanted this he wanted this ..accountability would have prevailed ,as numbers ,results can’t be debated ..instead you had one too many with your butt boy and went and crushed a beer can on your Head …if it weren’t my football team ..I’d be enjoying this mess …I hope by mistake ,it all works out ..I truly do..
Much of that may be true but I think the Kelly ass picture (I shudder at the thought, yuck) might be a but of hyperbole… If there is any shred of truth to Luries comment chip came in and said look, it’s divisive to have an organization like this we have to move forward … He may have threatened a but which is ok… I have always been skeptical about the draft by committee thing with Howie somehow getting to spin to the owner… I know this is unpopular but I thinK AR would still be winning with a more streamlined organization…
You give Reid way too much credit hac. Reid had total control of this team. His multiple(consistent) in game miscues were beyond tired. I’m glad to finally have a coach who values the run -and I’m hardly a kelly fan. The unwillingness to address special teams, real talent at wr, mlb, safety, philly’s high taxes, WTC bombing, and rapper Trina not giving me a lapdance are ALL HIS FAULT.
reid lost his way– he certainly had his faults as you point out… he wasn’t a total bafoon till the end when i think he got desperate… he won a shit load of games — did not get over the top, agreed but you don’t don’t win that many games without knowing a little somehting…
but he lost his way– he reached on the Mudd, washburn nambdi time…
Looking at Panthers vs Cardinals playoff game
pick 27- Deone Bucchanon- Cardinals
pick 28-Kelvin Benjamin- Panthers
Both players starting for their teams and making plays.
Eagles pick 26- Marcus Smith ???????nada
Talent evaluation….Thanks Chip… Bang up job!!!
Don’t think I didn’t notice this as well Ehl. Just sickening. But I’m a fan and I have to BUY IN. Been doing so for 40 years.
HAC not disagreeing ..just saying this could have been handled “in house” without the wives of broad street drama …there’s no question from Wednesday to Friday the owner flip flopped…he had leverage and just gave it all away ..
Agreed… Can’t fire or trade the owner…. Hopefully thru hook or crook he got this right
Carolina said “fuck it” we’re gonna treat this like the Iron Bowl.
lol
They should treat this as their SB…and celebrate their win too…. because they’re going to lose by 24 next week.
Helps too with Ed Hochuli bailing out every one of those floaters over wide open wrs. Twice so far.
Panthers have Played the Seahawks very tough
This year and last year and actually match up very well against them
They will not be intimidated playing them at all
Facing smash-mouth type of Teams benefits the Panthers
They struggle versus the spread out Teams like the Packers,Eagles
Etc.. Get them vs any other Team in the NFC, minus the Packers
And they can hang in and try to win ugly..
It’s how they are built and how they Play
Is Ron Jaworski available,I’ve always liked Ron ,and trusted his football acumen? As a talent evaluator ..
Like the swarming Carolina defense ..reminiscent of Ron Rivera..oops..we let him get away too..
Sean McDermott all of a sudden got better?
See that’s what I was thinking.
HAC did you use AR and streamlined in the same sentence?
I was wondering if anyone would catch that… You get the prize
Ha Ha.. Nothing, no matter how Small or in this case,
How Large, gets by the GCobb Posters…
AR is easy to make the butt of jokes on GCOBB… It’s low hanging fruit!
Zona with this qb doesn’t stand a chance… Butt fumble is god awful but for a backup… You kind of have chance…
RB Stewart running hard and Panthers OL dominating Cards Front 7
This Team is for Real, despite their crappy Overall Record
But has played very well the last 4-5 Weeks
Cam newton just can’t throw… He is athletic as hell but like a lot of spread dudes just can’t throw well
I say hat he drills it to Olsen…
Yeah ok whatever makes you guys sleep well at night. On his worst day he’s better than any qb we have. hard for me to criticize Cam when so many were predicting his demise since his drafting. Let’s see; 2 very good rbs who can’t stay on the field thus making Cam the defacto best rb; Steve Smith slightly long in the tooth but still a gamer the only real threat at recvr and Olson. Please! Cam may not be Rodgers, but he damn sure is the primary reason that team has been relevant.
And the I forgot Benjamin (who should be an eagle)…….plus the brilliant front office lets Smith leave. Cam= instant upgrade without having to mortgage the future for Mariota. But I already know he will be franchised.
i like cam kind of… he is athletic, tough and i think smart… he just has serious flaws and i don’t think he can win with his arm…
Cam …Pman had an epiphany rolling his vehicle?
He seems more alive..less sullen..he still has talent ,but his passing isn’t all that ..too often ..
I don’t understand you guys. Have I missed something this year in regards to qb play(other than a bunch of excuses)? I just watched my young promising starter look pedestrian at best in a year he could have ceased control of the position and put to rest any doubt about his Madden season last yr. I also saw our back up fail as well to cease the moment when there for the taking. And as much as I love Benjamin, our Djax less crew is better than that slop in Carolina. Do we have the luxury of talking about other team’s qbs? Every team with the exception of zona and Cincy has a better signal caller than the eagles.
The nfl ‘no more’ campaign is total bullshit
Cam has TERRIBLE fundamentals … How can that be?
If the Panthers had a qb the Game would be over, the punter for the Cardinals giving it away
Just as effective as just say No…
Man that Newton is athletic!!
You see the way he ran down Cromartie!
Awesome.
But cam is a chip type of qb!
Cam newton stinks
3 floaters, one worm burner – all to wide open guys.
One “almost” pick 6 that was dropped.
And a pick 6.
This with the Arizona punter doing his best to set the all time lowest punting average in history. Carolina has spent the entire half in ‘Zona territory and are losing.
Oh….and one shot of him sitting on the bench with the towel on his head. Expect more sulking to come!
Can’t you just imagine Newton in a Kelly offence??
Wouldn’t that be just peachy?
Sorry…not a pick 6.
“Athleticism” allowed him to catch Cromartie!
I have a good idea
Let’s get cam newton to run the kelly offense
Thought it would be interesting now that we know who is calling the shots ….what will be the first ducks name ..that chip hangs upside down in the Chinese restaurant and let’s go?
Turnovers kill football teams!
That was on Crotcherty.
And brutal.
On that throw you are correct …he still has brutal fundamentals etc.
Just because a tv talking head says it, does not mean its true.
You, nor I, nor Gruden knows what Newton/Crochery were supposed to do there.
Crotch thought to go in, Newton out.
Why do you assume it was Crotch made the wrong call?
Wait….can’t fault the hero!
On a crossing pattern you keep going…you run across the defenders face, that is a fundamental…
I hate cam and truly that is a basic pattern, he looked back to watch a play behind him…
Huh?
Um…I can see with my own tow eyes. Clearly Crotch wasn’t even looking for the ball and bailed on his route. And this is why no one takes you seriously. You can’t let your hate see plays for what they really are.
Even the announcers said as such. But these dumbasses on this site can’t allow their hatred for certain “types” of qbs to subside. Think if we had a true franchise qb they’d see the need to always worry about other qbs? But when yours are avg at best and holes were clearly on display this year….gotta deflect and throw shade somewhere. Think if Foles had shown what he was suppose to people would be discussing moving up for Mariota(which I disagree with)? He shit the bed and a patched up oline that actually passed blocked rather well took the blame. Sanchez of all people for a small window, did just as well as the Starter.
actually sanchez didn’t
and i defended cam on that int… btw!
Lot of Game left, Cam is a 2nd Half QB
They have to get back to Runnung the Ball,
Cardinals are wratcheting the Pressure up
And Cam is not handling it well..
Cam is a second half qb???? Say what ?
Chimp ….sounds like a Boone homers sentiments?
I would like to see the Panthers Win and move on in the Playoffs.
I follow and root for them on a casual level,since I’ve have lived in NC since 1994..
Who is worse cam or Krappernick ???
cam and Krappernick both bottom 10 qbs for sure. Both bottom 5 starters ?
I always thought cam was worser but Krap stunk this year…
yeah and so did Foles.
Foles looked like hot shit this year and it make me wonder how fans can talk about other team’s qb when thieir QB played like hot shit getting bailed out by special teams and defensive scores.
You are mentally challenged as evidence by your poor subject verb agreement
No he’s just exposing people like you and the usual suspects for you bullshit. Foles did NOTHING to inspire confidence this year. Unlike Songs I’m on record for backing this kid. All I’ve seen on this site was excuse after excuse for his play. You guys go on and on about Kap’s regression, but what about Foles? And no,l’m not a Kap fan but I’m aware of what he has done in his short run for that franchise. You guys act like inaccuracy, missing open recvrs, and bad mechanics weren’t on display all season and often discussed via sports shows and etc.
actually i;ve used kaps regression to point out that it is natural at this stage of the development… it is normal–
foles did not have a good year– the detractors just evaluate him on a different level than all others–
all i ever say is he ends up winning lots of games…
go ahead defend the short bus guy..i don’t care!
If Songs is on the short bus, I’m confident he has some familiar faces as passengers off GCOBB ave.
No what’s funny is all the naysayers on this blog are bitching about a QB who is in the playoff.
That’s why there isn’t even a need to respond. One guy is in the playoffs. The other team is sitting home. lol.
Lo too funny… I think our guy has as many wins in half a season as the ‘playoff’ qb had in 16..
Go ahead ts, swoon over cam he is awesome, they are carving his bust in canton.
On another note… The difference between a marginal qb cam and a third stringer is immense… Whenever you go to a back up ie butt fumble you will struggle
Actually I wasn’t swooning over anyone.
I was commenting on how silly is to pick a part a QB that’s in the playoffs while your team’s QB is at home. I mean instead of just enjoying the game, folk are picking apart every play every move like someone the Ealges playoff game is coming up and we’re playing Carolina next.
Hell Foles didn’t even finish the season, but yep lets complain about Newton who is PLAYING with two broken bones in his back. Bunch of certified idiots here.
Nope again wrong point, Newton is playing with 2 broken bones in his back came back to lead his team into the playoffs, where did Foles lead the Eagles to ? Can’t be a leader or franchise guy in the training room.
Yup Foles broke a collar bone, got slammed…
You guys are right cam is really good, funny Foles wins and plays ugly it’s because of defense and spec teams… Just someone from the other side acknowledge cam played like shit and his defense or lack of Arizona offense and special teams helped him win
Foles don’t win against winning teams but stack stats against bums, and he lost a playoff game at home.
Watch out Cigar the spellchecker will get you for worser. LOL
lol
I wrote that for comedic affect! I love the word worser!
When a team is sending the house over and over and over against a 4th year starter, you know what the defensive co-ordinatoe thinks about the QB.
That’s what you do with 1st and 2nd year QBs…..if its still happening 4 years in…you suck.
(This despite Gruden slathering Newton’s nards all first half – “look how he’s audibling from an inside run to an outside run – he’s progressing!”)
Ya? Wow. A 4th year QB can audible from one run to another. How exciting.
But he’s athletic.
I just seen cam get a first down after everything broke down…I wonder what Nick folds would have done there?
Can someone say throw it away and call in the punt team?
They still punted….AND…their QB ate turf about 4x.
Listen…this team has started every drive in Arizona territory today and have 13 points.
The QB is responsible for 7 of the Arizona pts.
Give it up….isn’t it you who leads the “Foles in the 1st half against New Orleans….” charge?
Now Cam Newton can do no wrong?
This game is a complete blowout if Anderson is playing over Newton. The running game is rolling. The field position is incredible.
And the QB is missing wide open guys and throwing pick 6s.
They’re going to win, because Arizona cannot move the ball..but this should have been a blowout mid-way through the 2nd if not for the QB
Oh…and he’s getting bailed out by 2 totally ticky-tack illegal comtact…
And now that pathetic pass int call.
Without that help,….its a beyond pathetic performance.
What a joke call that was.
There is that pesky S V agreement again!
Cam just got another 1st down escaping a blitz situation.
Foles would have probably got crushed and fumbled right there.
Did I miss something? Cam coming here next year? Let’s figure out how to win with what we have or.. Figure out how to get what we need. You 2 won’t stop this stupid debate. You can win in this league with either style. Enough already.
Stevo it’s always the same punk asses who start this shit every year and then accuse those who call it out with having an agenda, The thread clearly shows who they are. Mcnabb and Vick are no longer here AND OUR OWN QB HASN’T DONE SHIT all year before getting hurt; so play our usual flame game under guise of legit sports talk.
pointing out the agenda is a problem for many… ‘foles hasn’t won a playoff game” — oh really songs? hmmmm cam was 0-1 before last night? wtf are you defending that moron for!
Foles is fair game because he’s currently the starter for OUR team. You know, like how McNabb and Vick were before it became ridiculous and clearly not legit debate. Again, you should really try employing your baseball logic when discussing football. You’ve become every bit of what your call out in the baseball threads.
What a Game for 2 Struggling Offense’s..
This is what the Playoffs are all about and you have to
Like to see both Teams battling back and leaving it on the field
Was that Pass even Catchable???
The Refs have sucked for both sides so far and not a good sign for the NFL
Why they break up Referee Units to work the Playoffs is Asinine
Why Ted Ginn Jr, was even try to return that Kick
9 Yards Deep in the end-zone was stupid in the first Place
As I stated all year, Cardinals CB Patrick Petersen
Is one if the most Overrated CB’s in all of the NFL
Paul I wasn’t going to say anything but I was thinking the same thing… I haven’t seen him a whole bunch but… So so….
Petersen is the Highest Paid CB in all the NFL
As well, more than Sherman,Revis,Talib, etc,etc..
And still better on his worst day than that slop the eagles trot out every game.
If I’m Carolina I wouldnt even think about giving Cam major money, this guy is never gonna last, besides that he still makes rookie mistakes n has no touch, whoever thinks this guy is good has no clue.
Funny I feel the same way about those that think he can’t play. Then again I’m used to seeing idiocy compounded on this site.
I can say this….it’s good to see young guys like RG3, Wilsom, Cam. and Kap at least win the playoffs.
Lol sings.. Cam in his fourth year is getting ready to beat Lindsey, Foles had the lead against Bree’s, left the field and the d lost the game… You just are mentally challenged I understand… It’s not your fault
Foles never won a playoff game…..
Last I checked a QB don’t get a “W” for leaving the field with the lead before the team loses.
Only people in Philadelphia would use such a pathetic scenario to prop up a QB when the reality is his poor play in the 1st half lead to the team losing by keeping the opposition in the game to be able to strike and win it all in the end.
Songs, ts et al has cam been aided by special teams? Does that take away from the win?
It’s all about winning in the Playoffs buddy.
Did the defense and special teams help..? Did he turn the ball over?
If Carolina wins it will be in spite of Cam not because n don’t forget, if we’re in that weak division were playing today
you seen those key 3rd down conversions with Panthers down that changed field position and eventually lead to a score?
Did the cardinals have an offense? Did the panther d and special teams aid in the win? That is how you qualify Foles wins! Do the same with a qb that is more ‘your style’ he sucked
I like this OLB Sam Acho of the Cardinals who is a Free-Agent
this March.. Eagles should pursue and replace Trent Cole
Pman, I believe Cole n Graham is gone n with that money they get Worilds from the Steelers, if u remember, we tried to get him last year but they franchised him, I think he’s tops on the list.
I am not as High on Worilds as many of you guys are..
He’s a nice Player on a well coached Scheme in Pittsburgh..
Worilds had 59 Tackles with 7.5 Sacks
This Season, 1 Forced Fumble and 2 Int
Which is Solid, but not Great by any means
Panthers LB Thomas Davis had 100 Tackles
Like Kuechly, who GMCliff stated was overhyped
When coming out of Boston College, had 153 Tackles to lead the NFL
Vontaze Burfict played in only 4 Games in 2014 with Concussion,Nexk and Knee Injuries for the Bengals
Kuechly has never missed an NFL Game
In his 3 Seasons and has made the Pro-Bowl
Every Season including Defensive Rookie of the Year in
2012 and NFL Defensive Player of the Year in
2013
Even GMCliff has misses with his Drafts..
LB Worilds let Ravens TE Crockett Gillmore get free behind him
That Put the Game away.. 30-15…
I agree Cole should be replaced, but not with him…
As great as Arians coached this year he couldn’t overcome losing his starting QB, that’s it in a nutshell, no matter how good or innovative you are, you have no chance without a franchise QB
Chip will get his QB of the future this offseason.
Will sign Foles to a kap type of contract, you are correct
I sure hope, who u think it could be?
Bowles and MsDermott is better than Billy davis….hands down.
The Eagles need to hire the Panthers linebacker coach as defensive coordinator.
Mentally challenged.. Isn’t it time that your group home turns off your putur?
Congrats!!! Panthers, Cam. and Mcdermott.
That Panthers defense did it tonight and hats off to Cam for regrouping and driving his team down the field in critical moments.
Damn we haven’t won a playoff game since 2008.
Damn
An historic win by the panthers! Just incredible … Maybe the biggest win in nfl history
There goes my Safety (Tre Boston) from last Years Eagles Mock Draft,
making another Play.. The Eagles should have Drafted Tre Boston
Over Ed Reynolds.. I said it then, I say it now..
Boston has been ballin’ over the Carolina’s winning streak.
Damn Paulman I rarely get into the mocks but the only one I did had Tre Boston in it so can I get a little love?
A Boone Zoo 2015 Calendar is on the way
To Jax,Fl for you Biggy.
Appreciate it Paulman. LOL
pman–You mean Pac 12 Ed Reynolds…more Pac 12 players on the way in April/May….bet it.
Steelers/Ravens Winner will be determined
By what QB can expose other Teams poor Secondaries…
Ravens backend may be worse than the Eagles
With all the Injuries they’ve had this Year
And the Steelers Secondary is not much better
If I am with Team, I abandoned the run and pass,pass,pass..
Expect a 31-30 Type of Game with 80-90 Passes
Between each Team.,
Go for the hen over the molester! Although the ravens line blows
Ravens have 2 Starting OL out and are Starting
A Rookie LT in his first NFL Start …Good Luck
These mixed “Referee Units” are an embarrassment
To the Integrity of the Game… Shame on the NFL