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How Much Should Be Made Of The Front Office Turmoil?

ChipKelly3What is the state of the Philadelphia Eagles?  For the second straight season, a name that “matters” is walking past the exit sign, leaving the media and fan base speculating what is going on behind the scenes.  Desean Jackson was Chip’s call; the Gamble move is credited to Howie, so now the score is tied up at one apiece?

If the worry for the future of the franchise wasn’t already up in the air due to questionable signings in free agency and talent evaluation in the draft, we have this latest roadblock to get past moving into the offseason.

Howie has been working to make his presence known that even though he didn’t grow up in football, his intelligence and people skills can get the job done with the best of them.  Chip Kelly is polar-opposite, a guy who eats and breathes football, determined to prove that his success at the college level can translate to the professional level.   Howie is a people pleaser, likes to add to his portfolio as many contacts as possible, ready to shake any hand and smile for a picture when the opportunity presents itself.  Chip would love it if he didn’t have to talk to anyone but his players and coaching staff.

Chip will make you laugh with his arrogance towards questions asked by reporters.   Howie is looking to make you laugh with his charm and sensibility.  There is nothing wrong with having different personalities leading a NFL team; that is until small disagreements lead to fall outs like the one we are currently witnessing.

What happens when Chip wants to pay a guy to stay but Howie thinks their cap number is too big, and the money should be used elsewhere?  What if Howie wants to draft for a position of need, but Chip likes a guy because of the school he played for and attributes he views as “special?”   Will Howie allow Chip or will Chip overrule Howie with wanting to take a college prospect two or three rounds before his projected draft position?

Not only does this type of move by the Eagles with firing Gamble alter the feelings and perspectives by those in-house, but pending free agents players and agents of those players are going to make their own judgment calls with this matter.

Do you fear that Chip has possibly one year left to get things right with the Eagles?  That if it came to Howie or Chip, the coach is going to be the one to go?

Jeff Kolsky

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andrew p
andrew p
January 4, 2015 8:21 pm

I dont think it’s going to work like that, Chip is going to say, I want that guy n it will be Howies job to make it work, that’s his job as of Friday, he has no authority whatsoever to tell Chip no.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 4, 2015 9:25 pm

That’s right Andrew… Howie says we have $134 mil to spend – Chip can spend it however he wants.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2015 9:29 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Better question Irish, do you think Chip will trust anything that comes out of Howie’s mouth?

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 4, 2015 9:44 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Probably not Big, but it’s not rocket science. I think Howie will be obligated to lay things out in a way that Chip understands how much he can spend.

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2015 9:26 pm

We’ll see how well Chip works with Roster Management
when dealing with the following 5 Players

1) Trent Cole (Due $11 Million in 2015)
2) Cary Williams (Due $9 Million)
3) Todd Herremans (Due $6.33 Million)
4) James Casey (Due $3.25 Million)
5) DeMeco Ryans (Due $6.75 Million)

If Chip brings all 5 Players back at their Current Salaries,
Then Eagles are F’d with the notion of improving Roster much in Free-Agency

If Chip cuts all of them and uses the $35 Million
Saved to upgrade the Secondary & OL and WR
Then we know he’s in this for the long-haul

The 30-45 Days will be telling about the Future of Chip Kelly
& the Direction of the Franchise

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2015 10:07 pm
Reply to  paulman

The Eagles with $20 Million under the Cap
Are not going to be able to Re-Sign Maclin,
Then Sign Free-Agents like Houston,Iupati,Maxwell,McCourtey
Etc, and extend long-term Deals to Cox,Kendrick’s,
and possibly Foles unless the 5 Player’s Contracts,
I listed above are dealt with ….

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 9:50 am
Reply to  paulman

according to overthecapDOTcom all your numbers are wrong. plus if you cut them at their current salaries that doesnt necessarily mean your cap number will be reduced by those salaries…

i get your point but its not 35 mill in salaries or reduced cap…

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2015 11:45 am
Reply to  mhenski

The $35 Million Reduced in 2015 Salaries of those 5 Players I listed would reduce the Salary Cap by $28.5 Million
Here is Details as listed by “EaglesSalaryCap.Com”
for 2015 Salaries and Cap Hit’s if Released
T Cole – Due $11.625 Salary – Cap Hit is $3.2 Million
D Ryans – Due $6.8 Million Salary – No Cap Hit if Released
C Williams – Due $8.166 Million Salary – Cap Hit is $1.66 Million
T Herremans – Due $5.2 Million – Cap Hit is $2.4 Million
J Casey – Due $4 Million – No Cap Hit if Released

Total Salaries of the 5 Players ($35.8 Million)
Total of 5 Players Cap Hit if Released ($7.3 Million)
Total Savings off of 2015 Salary Cap ($28.5 Million)

It’s time for the Eagles to get younger,stronger and faster and not time to be sentimental.. Maybe offer T Cole a 1 Year $3 Million Deal and see if he wants to Stay at that drastic of a reduction. The Rest of them need to be Released

DCar
DCar
January 5, 2015 12:37 pm
Reply to  paulman

paul, per spotrac, which is an direct salary cap site, for all sports, that is updated daily, this is the salaries owed, & dead money cap hits if they are cut.

Shady- $11.95M Salary cap- $4.4M dead $ if cut.
Cole- $11.625M Salary cap- $3.2M dead $ if cut.
Ryans- $6.9M Salary cap- $0 dead $ if cut.
Casey- $4M Salary cap- $0 dead $.
Celek- $4.8M Salary cap- $0 dead $.
Herremans- $5.2M Salary cap- $2.4M dead $.
Williams- $8.166M Salary cap- $1.666M dead $.
Curry- $1.076M- $224G.
So you are correct. All could, & should be gone, or restructured to team friendly contracts.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 5, 2015 2:02 pm
Reply to  DCar

Every player Paul named is under contract for next year – If Chip brings all 5 Players back under their current contract the Eagles salary total is increased by $7.7 million over last years.

Out of those players Paul named only one player, Trent Cole, stands to receive a significant salary increase next season – $5.1 million….

Cole is the only player of those 5 who’s future will be determined based on salary. The others will be judged solely on performance.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 2:17 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

James Casey is not getting 4 million next year, my guess is Maclin’s expected raise comes from James Casey’s contract.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 10:25 am

the media hasn’t yet vilified Howie, they are still too scared to cross him. If Howie truly was benched this off season then the local journalists would be preparing the termination stories of Howie right hand guys in the personnel department. Howie has to have many best buds there that are no longer needed with tears in their eyes. Until I start to read Roseman loyalist left for this job or Roseman’s hand picked scout is “escorted ” from the building. Lurie just placated all of us to get the negative spot light off himself.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2015 12:39 pm

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DCar
DCar
January 5, 2015 12:43 pm

You are an asclown & a stooge! Seriously!!!!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 1:06 pm
Reply to  DCar

why would Chip keep Howie’s scouts? Why haven’t Howie’s scouts been identified by the media? How hard is it to connect dots to them. Those Howie guys should be scared out of their minds right now networking. That is a story that was beginning to be written before the Flip Flop Lurie mid week decision about Gamble and Chips scouting allies. You have to figure most of the personnel department were Howie’s boys.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2015 3:39 pm

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mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 2:26 pm

drafttek mock draft eagles picks

1st round Danny Shelton – DT – Washington
Year 2 of the transition to a 3-4 defense was a mixed bag for the Eagles. The team was fairly stout against the run but dreadful in pass coverage, finishing 31st in the league. As with any team, a fierce pass rush can make a good secondary great, or in the Eagles’ case, a bad secondary so-so. While the Eagles finished the year with 49 sacks, just 5 behind the league-leading Bills, the pass rush was inconsistent. Danny Shelton brings a blend of athleticism and raw power that could bring a boost to any defense. Shelton’s 9 sacks and 16.5 tackles for loss are impressive for an interior lineman, and rank him among the country’s best. At 6’1 and 327 lbs, Shelton is a classic 3-4 Nose Tackle, and has the potential to team with Fletcher Cox to elevate the Eagles defensive line to an elite level.

2nd round Kevin Johnson CB from Wake Forest
– The Eagles may be (should be?) moving on from starters Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher. However, who will take their spots in 2015? Nolan Carroll’s a veteran but is simply a depth/special teams player; Jaylen Watkins is young and inexperienced (just 31 snaps in ’14 according to Pro Football Focus). It’s likely Roseman and Kelly will look towards Free Agency to fill one spot but a CB should be selected early in the draft as well. Johnson played in 47 games (41 starts) in 4 seasons for Wake Forest, amassing 123 tackles, 8 TFLs, 35 PBUs, and 7 INTs. He was a lone bright spot for the Demon Deacons recently, actually keeping them in games.

Round 3 – Jake Ryan – ILB – Michigan
Round 4 Deontay Greenberry – 6’3″ WR – Houston
Round 5 Zadarius Smith OLB – Kentucky

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2015 2:41 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I love DT Danny Shelton’s Upside and think he could be a Stud at the NFL Level..At 6-2 335lbs and quick hands,feet and naturally strong, he has a NFL Body from Day 1, High Motor an a Nasty Disposition…
Put him at NT and flanked by Cox & Logan in their base 3-4 Package could be the Foundation of a Solid DL for years to come…

2nd Rounder Kevin Johnson is also a Nice pick — He’s got great leaping ability, plays the ball in the air as well as anyone in College and has natural length at 6-1′ – The Knock on him is that he only goes about 175-178lbs and will need to get stronger and is not known as a very good or Physical Tackler… He Excells in Pass Coverage Skills but is not very good in stopping the Run and Tackling which is why he’s probably looked at as a 2nd Round Prospect instead of a 1st…

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 2:54 pm
Reply to  paulman

i know nothing about these guys just reading…

thanks for your insight though paul. FUCK we gotta do this for 4 months….. YUCK

all the while im gonna be this paranoid fan scared to death of chip just being an absolute moron draft and getting whipped by his fellow gms in the draft…

regarding a corner not being able to support the run, at this point i could care less thats what are front 7 is for… we got corners that cant play the pass now and i want corners who can…

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2015 3:41 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Thanks big Mhenski, I’ve been asking E0S to do that for 3 years now, and he gives NOTHING….

At least you’re not afraid to be wrong….I respect you as a man Mhenski my Brother..

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 3:46 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

i know absolutely zero about college kids. i read websites and listen to you, paul, dcar. and do follow up research from there. watch youtube highlites….

i absolutely hate college football

have your say on those picks…

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2015 4:09 pm
Reply to  mhenski

But you’re not hesitant to give suggestions, unlike E0S, who does nothing but talk crap, and heckle, acting as if he’s more knowledgeable, and reserves the right to criticize – although he gives nothing to avoid being heckled himself.

Thank you for standing up as a man Big Mhenski – unlike some people…

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 4:23 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

i dont give suggestions b/.c i know nothing

those pics are copied and pasted source is listed first

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2015 4:59 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I know, my buddy runs WaltersFootball……

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 8:12 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

GMCliff went to Howard High in Wilmington, DE.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2015 11:56 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

E0S went to Assholes High in Sewer, NJ

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 12:00 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Jeff, my sons have been good friends with Walt Cherepinsky for years….

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 12:01 am
Reply to  gmcliff

I have been buddy to him through them.

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 2:28 pm

walter football

1st Philadelphia Eagles: Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State
I’ve had several Eagle fans ask me if trading up for Marcus Mariota is a possibility. It’s not. The Buccaneers actually wanted to move up to No. 1 before they had the first pick because they’re desperate for a franchise quarterback, so they’re not going to suddenly surrender the top choice. From what I’ve gathered, I don’t even think three first-rounders would get it done for Philadelphia. Thus, if the Buccaneers choose Mariota over Jameis Winston, it’s not happening.

Here’s a more realistic option. The Eagles have a terrible group of corners, and Chip Kelly likes tall defenders like Trae Waynes.

2nd Philadelphia Eagles: Gerod Holliman, S, Louisville
Nate Allen has been a huge liability, as he was responsible for Arizona’s game-winning touchdown in the middle of the season. The Eagles are in desperate need of an upgrade at safety.

3rd – Philadelphia Eagles: Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon
Another Oregon player for Chip Kelly. This one can upgrade Todd Herremans at right guard and then move to tackle once Jason Peters retires.

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2015 2:43 pm
Reply to  mhenski

All Solid Picks ….

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 2:30 pm

draftsite

1st 20 Philadelphia logo Philadelphia P.J. Williams* CB Florida State 5′ 11″ 195

2nd 2 52 Philadelphia logo Philadelphia A.J. Cann OG South Carolina 6′ 3″ 315

3rd 3 84 Philadelphia logo Philadelphia Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB Oregon 5′ 10″ 190

4th 4 115 Philadelphia logo Philadelphia Trade Icon Durrell Eskridge* SS Syracuse 6′ 1″ 210

4th 4 120 Philadelphia logo Philadelphia Deontay Greenberry* WR Houston 6′ 2″ 200

5th 5 160 Philadelphia logo Philadelphia Bryan Bennett QB Southeastern Louisiana 6′ 2″ 215

6th 6 196 Philadelphia logo Philadelphia David Mayo ILB Texas State 6′ 3″ 225

7th 7 235 Philadelphia logo Philadelphia Demetrious Nicholson CB Virginia 5′ 11″ 185

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 4:27 pm

It appears that the Eagles will receive the 14th selection in the 4th round as compensation for the Bryce Brown trade from Buffalo. (originally san frans – stevie johnson trade- sent to eagles )