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A Look At Nerlens Noel’s Early Season Performance

nerlensWell it’s been awhile peeps. Unfortunately, my “real-life” job has taken me away from writing the nonsense that I love to write. I have a little bit of free time and figure to give it another whirl.

There’s a lot of topic’s I could choose from. MCW struggles (besides getting to them rim) with shooting (19.7 percent from beyond 16 feet), and turnovers (4.6 per game). Though some of his struggles are directly from his off-season  shoulder surgery. Instead of him working on his flaws in the off-season, he was rehabbing his shoulder.  My love for K.J. McDaniels, even his mom would be fun to write about. The gem of find in Robert Covington. He has made the same amount 3’s made as Steph Curry over his past 15 games, reported by Max Rappaport. Or, I could just talk about the Sixers in general and what might be next in Hinkie’s plan. BUT… I figured to talk about Nerlens Noel.

Noel had an up and down rookie season thus far.  Noel, 20, is averaging 7.7 ppg, 7.2 rpg, to go along with 1.4 blocks and 1.6 steals a game. He has looked like an “Elite” defender, being able to guard multiple positions at times.  Holding opponents to 46.8% shooting at the rim, according to NBA Stats. He is a big part of the reason why the Sixers creeped into the top ten in “Defensive Efficiency” (the number of points a team allows per 100 possessions) at one point this year. Yes, that actually happened for about a day (OK, maybe a few hours). You can clearly see the effect he has on the game on the defensive side, when he is fully engaged.

Offensively? Well…that’s a different story. We all knew that Noel was going to be project. Brett Brown basically spent the entire 2013-14 season breaking down Noel’s jump shot and building it up again. Obviously, that jumper still has a ways to go. He is shooting an awful 37% from 3-10 feet out from the rim. He struggles to even catch the ball at certain times. His best move seems to be that running left-handed hook he does.  He is shooting 50% from the charity stripe and is shooting 41% overall.  He does have decent passing skills though.

I have seen NBA people project him to Samuel Dalembert (our good old friend). “Slammin” Sammy. There’s a dude with ZERO basketball IQ. That would be very disappointing. I have seen people say, maybe Serge Ibaka. Man, I would love that, but Noel has a long way to go for that. Personally, I’m not crazy about  comparing players, especially when (in Noel’s case) comparing a player in such a small sample.

Noel hasn’t played a lot of basketball at a high level. His freshmen year was cut in half at Kentucky with his knee injury and has only played 29 games in the NBA. So I’m going to hold off on calling him  the next Sammy Dalembert or the next Ibaka.  I’m going to give him time. Time is what he needs. He needs time to gain strength. Time to develop a decent jumper. Time to learn how to focus on a consistent basis. Time to see what it takes to be an NBA player. Luckily, he’s on the Sixers. There’s plenty of time to develop.

Joe Hickman Jr.

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IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 2:57 pm

Noels rookie play and stats compare favorably if not better than players like Tyson Chandler and Joakim Noah. Noel would have a bigger impact on offense if our PG play (Decision making) was better than it is with MCW/Wroten. Both players struggle with decision in the open court and in the half court(primarily in the pick and roll). Tyson Chandler had no offensive game to speak of and became a force offensively once teamed up with Chris Paul primarily off the foulline pick and roll and lobs to the basket. DeAndre Jordan is a benefit of the same factor with Paul right now. Defensively he is already there and will only make a bigger impact once his body matures.

Comparisons to Dalembert and Ibaka are lazy and pure nonsense. Noel projects more to a player like Joakim Noah than the two above mentioned. As the perimeter play improves so will Noels offensive game because their is more space in the paint and fastbreaks.

Outside of Mirotic who is a bit more seasoned and better offensively there is no young big better this year. If anything he is turning to a nice trade piece to land another player depending on how the draft and Joel Embiid pan out for the Sixers.

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 3:03 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

“If anything he is turning to a nice trade piece to land another player depending on how the draft and Joel Embiid pan out for the Sixers.”

YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

regarding the 2015 nba draft obviously okafor is gonna be a beast in the nba… was watching mundiay highlites today from china and he looks real good… i noticed he always seems to drive to the basket right handed though…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:07 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Keep your eye out the rumblings coming out of Sacramento and DeMarcus Cousins.

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 3:18 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

i would never in a trillion years believe cousins will be traded to here. teams just dont part with talent like that.

i would not pay any of that buzz zero attention

but if it were true and he were on the market my first offer to sac would be MCW, Noel, our 1st round pick from the Heat this year and our 2016 1st round pick

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:22 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Any trade rumblings you keep your eye out on with the Sixers they are the best facilitator team in the league through 3 way trades with their ability to take back excess salary.

Theres already grumblings he hates Tyron Corbin after Malone got canned. Sacramento may be in tear down mode once again. Noel a no.1 and the ability to eat a contract like Rudy Gay could get it done. Just speculating.

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 3:32 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

haaaaa good link

i didnt see a fight though. just cousins rag doll smart. that makes me want him more…

god izzell and e0s got me feeling like jon hart right now dreaming of us getting cousins.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 3:33 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Sixers still have to add salary to reach the minimum salary cap level which they are still below for the season. Sixers will also have to sign a couple expensive free agents in the off season to get to the minimum again for next season. They are so far below the league minimum.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 3:26 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

You have to youtube Cousins fights Marcus Smart for those who haven’t seen it. Hysterical — Cousins is a hot head maniac. here is a link…:
youtube.com/watch?v=OFPG8aapllw

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:06 pm

For example…

In the TWolves game that ended the losing streak key play for the Sixers that sealed the game was a high screen and roll with MCW. Noel set the pick and MCW continued into the lane keeping his dribble…caused the defender to step up and the lob was there. That play iced the game and sealed momentum.

A couple of those plays ran effectively a game would have him as a double digit scorer. Watch Sixers game more closely and you will see how many times Wroten and MCW botch the pick and roll by either picking up their dribble to early or probing to deep and not having an outlet.

Another factor in that is that outside of Covington there is no 3pt threats that keep teams from packing the paint effecting penetration that much more.

All in all Brett Brown and this young team have shown their is promise and compared to disasters like NY/NJ/LA that developing young talent is a much more effective route.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 3:16 pm

Noel loves to switch on the pick and roll and defend the point guard and teams keep setting him up for that expected switch. After the switch is made they aren’t trying to post up Wroten or MCW they wanted the Noel mismatch. He has to learn how to get back to the big and not get isolated on a PG.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:19 pm

Alot of that has to do with the PG and with Brett Browns philosophy. You dont know if Brown is telling them to switch everything or if the PG doesnt do a better job fighting through the pick etc. Also if he is playing the 4 spot is supposed to switch and force the PG to the basket….which is natural…but the only thing once Noel is away from the basket this team has no interior defense.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2015 3:20 pm

Nerlens Noel, is Hot garbage…….period.

I know how IJ feels about him, but if my brother wants to rationalize on him,, then I can respect that. But for me, it is what it is – Time to take out the garbage.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2015 3:22 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

If you can make a trade with him, I would do it sooner than later. DeMarcus Cousins would be a very nice start, if they can make it happen without giving up draft picks.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 3:28 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cousins is a skunk —

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:30 pm

Same was said of Zach Randolph when he was in Portland….then he got to Memphis matured and reinvented himself.

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 3:34 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

cousins and davis. two best young players in the game…

we got slop… we have zero above average players on this team. do we even have any average players outside of mcw and wroten? we gotta find some real talent asap. this is brutal

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:36 pm
Reply to  mhenski

We dont have slop….NY NJ LA etc have slop….Sixers are fine in the process right now.

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 3:39 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

oh we have slop… one of the worst teams ever assembled. but i suppose we have a direction, i think?

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 12:04 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

We have trash truck juice smelling, leaky slop! Are you mentally retarded? Hinkie better hope Embid is the real deal, or this black hole organization will be set back another decade+

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 3:38 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Cousins is not mentally stable, he is a lunatic. You cannot change crazy. That guy is dangerous.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:38 pm

Zack Randolph in his Portland days makes him look like a pussycat.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 5, 2015 3:43 pm

do you see him toss Marcus Smart? No Celtic came to Marcus’ defense and Marcus didn’t dare touch Cousins even with a push or something. Cousins is unstable.

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 3:48 pm

i love that shit man. dude ragdolled smart and nobody would do shit. i dont want that here in philly

I FUCKING NEED THAT!!!!!!!!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:23 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Lol hot garbage…shows the basketball IQ.

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 12:02 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

What exactly are YOU watching, that gives you high Basketball IQ? He is an injury prone, soft, POS! He blows! Like I said for 2 years now, he is Dalembert/ Ratliff 3.0.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 12:04 am
Reply to  DCar

ROTFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:25 am
Reply to  DCar

Lmao injury prone? How many games had he missed?

Do your homework and shut up lmao

Didn’t your day the same thing about Jeremy Maclin?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:26 am
Reply to  DCar

Dcar let’s talk some basketball…show some of that knowledge…

Oh wait….

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 2:39 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Hey delusional chooch boy, WTF are you exactly watching? Since the beginning of training camp, he’s had 7 separate injuries, & has been out 3 games now & missed most of pre-season with injuries! Are you fucking kidding, or just mentally retarded??? Just stop, & go away!

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 2:43 pm
Reply to  DCar

BTW, young head, I’ve forgot more about sports, that you can ever hope to attain! What did Maclin do before this year? Injury after injury. Alligator armed passes & falls to the ground. Hurt every hit. Was a bust. Disappeared the last half of the season. Just cut it out, you make yourself look like Jon Lil Bron Bron Hart!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 3:14 pm
Reply to  DCar

You have yet to say one thing basketball related outside of generalities and vague rants…

Nig please, take that silly homophobic caps lock angry black man bullshit somewhere else.

GTFOH HYPEBEAST I KNOW ABOUT YA.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 3:09 pm
Reply to  DCar

3 games is injury prone? LMAO YOU ARE A DUMBASS

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 5, 2015 3:34 pm

Izell please tell me you saw Jerami Grant’s brothers dunk on Saturday? ND vs Gtech sick ain’t the word it was and 1 as well.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:35 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Yes I did! Lol….that was a damn homie moment….

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 3:36 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

so sick. just watched it

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:38 pm

Tony Wroten fustrates me to know end….he may be my least favorite player on the team….his basketball IQ is SUPER LOW.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2015 3:39 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

no end…..

Damn phone….

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 3:52 pm

damn

Larry Sanders told the Bucks he doesn’t want to play basketball anymore, according to Gery Woelfel of the Racine Journal Times.
Wow. Sanders has been a perpetual nightmare since his signing his four-year, $44 million two summers ago. He hasn’t played in the last six games for personal reasons and missed a game last week from what the Bucks said was the flu, but the report today says it was due to his personal issues. The Bucks will move forward with Zaza Pachulia and John Henson as their centers, assuming this report is true. Jan 5 – 3:41 PM
Source: Gery Woelfel on Twitter

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2015 8:53 pm
Reply to  mhenski

How about a Trade of Noels to Bucks for Sanders
And a Future Draft Pick!

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2015 9:08 pm
Reply to  paulman

Stiff for a stiff and a pick. Sure

DCar
DCar
January 5, 2015 11:58 pm

He is dog shit, sitting in the hot summer sun! Anyone that says, or thinkg otherwise, is a clueless, know-nothing dopey imbecile! That is all……

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 12:03 am
Reply to  DCar

LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 12:07 am
Reply to  gmcliff

gmcliff, it’s the same clows on here, day, after day, spewing imbecilic nonsense, & gibberish! Absolute clueless! Listen, I’m far from a brainiac, but these cats on here, are retards, & think they know-it-all! SMMFH! I don’t have tolerance for stupidity, delusions, & irrational knuckle heads!

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 12:09 am
Reply to  DCar

Man there is only one DCar…….Thank you for making my day, by getting me to laugh like that..

I don’t see anything close to a legit player in Noel seriously. He blocks shots – to me that’s about it..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:23 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Lmao validation! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 12:07 am
Reply to  DCar

DCar, I am sitting here ROTFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 12:18 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Gotta laugh at the current state of affairs with Philly sports, & the boobs on here! I can take it anymore, with the incessant retardedness, ignorance, & stupidity on here. That’s why I come on here sparingly now of days.

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 12:19 am
Reply to  DCar

*Can’t*

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:22 am
Reply to  DCar

Sparingly DCar, you’re on this site everyday lmao

And you use that same line…I’m not coming on here bla blah blah

Gtfoh lmao

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 2:45 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

You don’t fucking see me on here everyday dipshit! I don’t have the time to converse with morons like you! Are you sick in the fucking head?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 3:07 pm
Reply to  DCar

Stfu you are on here all the time…lmao gtfoh out of here with you nonsense….you retire more and come back than Roger Clemens….

Go type exclamation points somewhere else.

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 12:22 am

gmcliff, I guess Izzell loves getting wood with those monster stats Nerlens puts up? That 6, 6 & 2 tonight, must have really given him the joygasm of the lifetime!

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 12:36 am
Reply to  DCar

LOL!! Joygasm…….

I think they are looking at what he could be down the road if he develops. – like some love to rationalize about – For me, I don’t think he’s going to develop much more than where he is……which is really a role player that comes off the bench….

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 12:55 am
Reply to  gmcliff

He is semi-decent on the defensive side of the ball, & that is it. He has zero offensive game, is too frail, & injury prone. Thus, the Dalembert, Ratliff comparisons! In all honesty, he ain’t even that good! He’ll be gone in the off-season, for future 2nd round picks, when Embid comes back, & we draft Okafer.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 8:15 am
Reply to  DCar

Theo was light years ahead of him on both ends.

Dalambert is a fair comparison.

I’m not an Okafor fan. I want Mundiay, and trade MCW, and Noel.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:21 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Lmao light years ahead Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Just like you wanted Exum and Schroeder

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

And Anthony Davis was an All American PG too right?

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 12:12 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

What are you laughing at IJ, he was….Noel stinks, I don’t know why you can’t see that. He’s done absolutely nothing for you to hang your hat on.

Even the media has stated he’s nothing more than a role player….I can respect you rationalizing, and dreaming he’ll get better, but you will admit what I’m saying to you sooner, or later.

And, YES I did want Shroeder – as a backup to Holiday -, and Adetkumbo, both are balling a lot better right now, than both Noel, and MCW….

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 12:39 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Really…Media is saying that really?

SHOW ME.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 12:42 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Schroeder stinks…gtfoh.

Giannis is getting more minutes and touches because Parker got hurt….that damn simple.

And when Parker was on the court he was playing out of position.

Stop making shit up because your wrong…its how you got your ass in trouble last time.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 12:44 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

That’s what GMCliff is hoping so he doesn’t look like a moron again.

Stick to football bruh…..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 1:03 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Dennis Schroeder….lol the guard averaging 8pts with a less than 1:1 Assist to turnover ration and shooting 20% from 3pt range…..

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

GTFOH

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 5:13 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

WIP, and 94 the fanatic say it darn near everyday..

Howard Eskin said it again today after he talked about the state of the Eagles Front Office affairs – and it’s not the first tie he’s said it.

How can you rag on Shroeder, or Adetkumbo, and in the same breath say Nerlens Noel is a player, and say I’M a moron – are you kidding me???

Open your eyes bruh, because that is ridiculous

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 5:18 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Gtfoh out if here with WIP and the Fanatic…

And YOURE LYING. The only real basketball guy on the sure waves down there Sonny Hill begs to differ.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 5:21 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

You know nothing about basketball other than trying to wax about foreign obscure players to look like you know something.

And with that logic…I guess Dante Exum who you could stop talking about is a bust too….

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TALK OUT YOUR ASS

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 5:25 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Even funnier you’re talking shit about Noel yet Giants is nothing about an athletic freak like him no offensive game can’t shoot. Lol alkyl you care about is trying to be right so you can speak in 3rd person

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 6:02 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

First Bruh, Jon Hart couldn’t stop talking about Exum – not me. I was not opposed to drafting Exum, and trading MCW. Just like now I’m not opposed to drafting Mundiay, and trading MCW.

Giannis, is about the same age as Noel, with less experience playing basketball, but much more talent, being able to play multiple positions, and give a lot more to his team than Noel does for us outright, and Schroeder averages more than Noel in less minutes as the back up that he should be.

You keep saying I don’t know nothing about Basketball, but I can clearly see Noel, isn’t a player to brag about – as has many in the area.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 6:29 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

GmCliff showing how clueless your are…

Using your dumbass logic Chandler Drummond Noah etc would be busts. Because they wetter all big men that scored less than 10pts a game there their first couple years in the nba not did they average double digit rebounds.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 6:31 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Dennis Schroeder doing more than Noel shows you’re a clueless idiot or a stubborn agenda fueled jackass.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 12:49 am
Reply to  gmcliff

IJ , you can’t mention Noah, Drummond, or Chandler with Noel. He’s not even close to their abilities, or potential no matter how you try to sugar coat his game……He stinks

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 12:52 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Shroeder averages 8.3 points per game coming off the bench, while Noel averages 7 points starting, and perpetrating as an impact player…What are you talking about??

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 12:53 am
Reply to  gmcliff

I can because I actually WATCHED them play

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 1:03 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Schroeder averages 8 points a game because he’s the primary backup PG who is a slasher and wise stats have been added starting in the place of Teague who was injured…who is back on the bench and playing horrible…And pointing to ppg for a pg without acknowledging his play in running the team etc is just showing you just want a bullet point for an argument. Hes played terrible..his assist to turnover in limited time only prices it….he shoots 20% from 3…Stop it bruh…AGAIN.I WATCH HIM PLAY.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 9:38 am
Reply to  gmcliff

But what a back up does, but he still averages more than Noel.

You keep speaking about him like I think he’s a potential all star, and I don’t. He is a decent back up – he is what he is.

But that has nothing to do with Noel being as sorry as he is IJ, his turnover ratio, is no worse than MCW’s,

But like I said that has nothing to do with Noel’s lack of = Bottom Line to me is he isn’t what the Sixers advertise him to be, and it’s very obvious that he will never be.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 9:39 am
Reply to  gmcliff

That’s what a back up does….

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 11:20 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Stop it. You main concern to is to look right…everything you say is absolute nonsense regarding Noel.

You have yet to back anything up with stats or facts just he said bullshit…

As soon as you used Howard Eskin and WIP as a basis for your argument you should the clown you are on this topic. GTFOH.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 11:38 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Lol pointing to avg. steal…comparing a primary ballhandler scoring first ballhandler to a defensive big man….

Seriously, stop talking about basketball.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 5:26 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Giannis

tua14768
tua14768
January 6, 2015 6:45 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Since WIP said it, it must be absolutely true. Nothing but sports geniuses work there.

I think it’s safe to say that less than half a season is a little premature to say that Noel has hit his ceiling. Many players in many different leagues all over the planet tend to improve their play over time. I’m not saying he has or has not reached his max, however less than half a season after not playing competitive basketball in over a year is premature.

Also, WIP and the fanatic say things to get listeners, there is very little logic in what is said half of the time on those stations.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 6:48 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Too much common sense Tua stop it…

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 12:47 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

That’s not true Tua……My point is a lot of people don’t feel he is anything special…and he isn’t point blank

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 11:21 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Theres no a lot of people GMCliff…stop your lying.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:15 am
Reply to  DCar

Semi decent lmao another fool who knows NOTHING about basketball.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 6, 2015 8:11 am

I would trade Noel and Embid to get Ofafor. That dude is tremendous.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:17 am

GmCliff is saying nothing because he was wrong and his knowledge on bball would get exposed like it had done before.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2015 12:15 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I’ve been saying it since before he played a second on the court…..

and he is proving it himself – Are you actually watching the games – Nerlens Noel Stinks; He should be coming off the bench….seriously

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:33 am

Theo light years ahead…

4pts 4 rebs rookie year….

Didn’t average double digits till year 4…in which his numbers mirror Noels Rookie year…

Do some homework

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 12:44 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

IJ, his stats don’t mean Noel, is a better player. Ratliff didn’t start for Detroit when he came into the league. Noel, is getting opportunities that he didn’t his rookie year ……

Why would it matter, when Ratliff passes the eye test?? Theo Ratliff was a much superior player than Noel…..

As intelligent as you come off to me, it’s mind boggling, that you still think he will be a player…..when it’s obvious he won’t.

Seriously IJ, go read some of the comment about him from others on the CSN Philly website, listen to sports radio, and you will see that you are in the minority about how you feel about Noel….

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 12:50 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Or you can go read Espn…Nba.com…Bleacher Report etc that say the complete opposite.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 12:55 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Look, we agree to disagree on Noel Bruh…….

But you’ll come around sooner than later.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 12:58 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Nobody speaks highly of Nerlens Noel, accept 76er Front Office ass kissers like Dei Lynam, or other employees who have to be politically correct, or lose their jobs……HE STINKS, PLAIN, AND SIMPLE

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 9:01 am

Sixers get win number 5 and first Home Win !!!!!!!!!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 9:05 am

NY Knicks just officially announced they are TANKING.
removed 3 of their top players off the roster; Iman Shumpert, JR Smith and released Sam Dalembert while asking Melo to pretend to be injured for the rest of the year. Phil Jackson has implemented the Sam Hinkie plan.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 6, 2015 9:23 am

the nba is a disgrace of a league…

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2015 9:56 am
Reply to  haveacigar

It really has become unwatchable anymore…
Half the Teams Stink, Coach’s come and go every Season
Promising Kids coming out of College who are simply not mature Physically or Emotionally and most get lost in the Process
Players Swap Teams so there is little continuity anymore ..
I can’t even watch it anymore

What’s worse is this Sport is being ruined even at the College Level now where the Top Programs (Top #10-#12 Schools) are littered with 1 & done Kids.. Fundamentals lost, little Team Defense, Hell is your a 65% Shooter from the Foul Line, your considered a good Free-Throw Shooter..
Big $’s, TV Mega Contracts and Advertisers have Ruined the Sport in my Opinion… 3 Point Line needs to be moved back at both levels in my opinion..

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2015 10:03 am
Reply to  paulman

and the NBA needs to have at least 4 Teams eliminated in the League to strengthen the Quality of Play and Talent…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 9:44 am

DCar, why are you complaining?
You co-signed the Andrew Bynum trade and purchased a season ticket plan all exited. They got burned so then they implemented your get rid of everyone on the team plan. ( The Sixers followed your instructions !!!!!!!!!!!!!)
2013 — 2 lotto picks ( Nerlans & MCW)
2014 — 2 lotto picks ( Embiid & Saric)
2015 — 1 lotto pick and a top 20 selection with 30- 40 million of cap space available while retrieving the 2 lost first rounds pick mistakes that Doug Collins gave away to Miami to get Arnette Moultrie and Orlando to get Andrew Bynum.
What could the Sixers have done differently to recover from the DCAR endorsed Andrew Bynum mistake?

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 9:51 am

saric stinks. that was an awful pick…

can the sixers steal jimmy butler from chicago this offseason or is he under team controL?

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2015 9:59 am
Reply to  mhenski

Saric will be a nice NBA Player, but it will be 2 Years before anyone sees him play and then take 1-2 Years to adjust to the NBA Game..

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2015 10:01 am
Reply to  paulman

He Probably wound be a better Selection to a Team like the Spurs
who don’t need him for a while… 76ers need some impact Players who can Play now before they have zero Fan Base left in 2017/2018 that even cares or supports the Team..

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 10:26 am
Reply to  paulman

dude is stinking it up in turkey. the guy blows. awful pick

tua14768
tua14768
January 6, 2015 6:24 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Is this the same Saric who became the youngest player to ever win a Euroleague monthly mvp award just this past November?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 9:26 am
Reply to  tua14768

Tua I said the same thing lol

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 10:09 am
Reply to  mhenski

Butler is restricted meaning Chicago can match any offer he signs which they will. Rose and Noah get all the love but Jimmy Butler is the Bulls best offensive player and the offense runs through him.
Sixers have to sign 2 expensive free agents or take 2 expensive contracts in trade for the 2015 season. The Sixers also have to find one expensive contract to add to this seasons salary cap before trade deadline ( 3pm March 1st) to reach Minimum salary cap floor.

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 10:27 am

ak47 didnt get us to the floor?

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 11:02 am
Reply to  mhenski

Sixers contracts 34.6 million’
Dead money 7.3 million
Hold money 3.6 million —————— Saric
Total 45 million with holds, 41 without holds Sixers contracts
NBA salary cap 63 million
90% minimum – 56 million ( Sixers have to spend to be in compliance)
Sixers have to spend 12- 15 million before March 1st. ( 15 if the Saric hold money must be spent, I’m not sure if it has to or not)

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 11:13 am

That don’t have to get to the salary cap floor if I am not mistaken. If they don’t the difference is divided and distributed to the players on the team.

Its not that big of a deal.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 11:22 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

good info, didn’t know that — wow, I guess every new addition to the team like Furkan Aldemir must be met with disdain from the rest of the team then since that removes that bonus money. There is a ceiling in how much a rookie draft pick can make, can they go above that ceiling with the divide the money up? or does all the money go Mbah a Moute and Jason Richardson?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 11:27 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I don’t know the particulars if vets get a higher percentage than rookies….I believe its just even money.

As far as Aldemir I don’t see how it would matter because you have to carry a mandatory minimum of players so it shouldn’t affect payouts. The 12th guy on the bench is getting paid regardless. As long as he is on the roster at the end of the season.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 6, 2015 12:01 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Your correct Izell, so yes it really isn’t a big deal.

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2015 2:50 pm

e0s, I didn’t co-sign shit! I was all for a tank, to get players to help make the team better NOW! Not, 2-3-4 years from now, like the snake oil saleman drafted! Take your BS, & take a walk. What happened to your idol Weaselman, you jerkoff! You spent 2 years, sucking his dick, ripping gmcliff, & he was canned like the fraud gmcliff & I said he was! You & your meat jockey friend Izzel, can fuck off, because you zippo for me son!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 3:16 pm
Reply to  DCar

Its funny you keep talking about gay shit and people cosigning….yet you be cosigning and dickriding hard when you finally right and somebody agrees with you lmao…..

DCar
DCar
January 7, 2015 12:07 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Dickriding is your job, meat jockey, not me! That’s what you do, when you make your trek from Washington to Camden, everyday! I’m right all the time & don’t need anyone to cosign shit! You are one dumb son of bitch, irrational retard! BTW, keep writing LOL, LMAO, & BWAHAHAHAH, for no apparent reason, it really makes you look retarded & insane! I’m glad you amuse yourself, because you ain’t funny bruh! You don’t have 2 brain cells to rub together! Beat it, you don’t have shit for me imbecile!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 12:26 am
Reply to  DCar

Oldass dickrider who loves attention.

I thought you were on here sparingly Bitch ass? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 12:38 am
Reply to  DCar

DCar always dropping homosexual taunts and innuendo….then asks other men in a forum to meet him somewhere….

Old Queen Bitch Ass

Lmao

DCar
DCar
January 7, 2015 12:42 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Yep, that’s what I thought, keyboard karate man! I’m far from old bitch! I’m 45, in the prime shape of my life bruh! Beat it pussy, you are an irrelevant, waste of oxygen!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 10:34 am

Saric is a bust?

The dude is the best European prospect not in the NBA. He started off slow with his new squad and moved into the starting lineup and played pretty damn good. If I am not mistaken hes been voted Euroleague MVP or something to that effect….

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 10:40 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

best european prospect not in the NBA, is that meaningful?

he went on a run where he was starting and lately its been bench, start, bench, start… he cant consistently start for a team in turkey? his fg% the last month in turkey is embarrassing..

44% fg % in turkey sucks. 21% 3pt % in turkey for a guy billed as a guy that can stretch the paint is shitty. 6 rebounds a game in turkey, 2 assists.10 ppg all in turkey is nothing to be excited about

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 10:42 am
Reply to  mhenski

waste a 10 pick on a guy that cant dominate in turkey is a crap pick , dude may never even come to the NBA and if he does its possible the sixers lose his rights… they shouldve took someone else or just traded the pick for a future #1 pick. saric pick was a total waste

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 1:11 am
Reply to  mhenski

FYI, Turkey has a Pretty competitive Basketball league..
In fact, sone of their KJ Teams could beat the bottom 6-8 Teams
of the NBA

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 10:57 am

Stop it. He was the EuroMvp for the month of November….He was averaging almost 16 and 8 and was the youngest to win that since Mirotic.

Euro basketball is not like the NBA vets are the preferred and no matter how highly touted you minutes are not given abundantly.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 10:58 am

This is definitely a football site…..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 11:00 am

I mean winning FIBAs Young Players MVP last year and again in the running this year means absolutely nothing……

SMH

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 11:03 am

And yes MHenski that is VERY meaningful especially for a young Euro…its why most try to get over by the second contract.

Only have to point to Mirotic and the Bulls to validate Saric. Saric is the better player and prospect. And Mirotic is playing damn good right now….ROY good and is a getting rotation minutes as rookie with Thibs.

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 11:08 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

good november awful december. maybe your right, i dont see it

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 11:12 am
Reply to  mhenski

That’s normally how most 20 year olds play….

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 11:35 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

fair enough. its very hard for me to be happy with this team when theyve been shit for a while and we have no talent on the court

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 11:50 am
Reply to  mhenski

We were shit on the court with established players….it was just disguised as mediocrity.

Anyone that thought Iggy Holiday Brand Young Turner was doing anything better than a 5 seed at best was a complete fool.

It was that nonsense that got us Andrew Bynum. Lack of patience got rid of Nic Vucevic who I had been a fan of day one.

Ive been through Willie Burton…Clarence Weatherspoon…Sharone Wright…Charles Shackleford….etc etc

This isn’t shit….lol

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 12:02 pm
Reply to  mhenski

And I’m not happy with this team….I am realistic.

They have made me want to throw my IPAD clear across the room….especially Tony Wroten. But I understand the strategy and process and I agree with it.

Even more validation when you see two major franchises doing the exact same thing in LA/NY….even Magic Johnson approves of tanking….I never understood the outrage against tanking. In the NBA environment its a must to gain a franchise player or players through the draft.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 11:14 am

Saric makes more money in Europe than what the NBA rookie wage scale would pay him. And by playing in Europe for 2-3 years then Saric avoids the rookie wage scale altogether when if he does eventually sign. He can negotiate with the Sixers without the rookie wage scale restraints.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 12:17 pm

Another guy to keep an eye is Jimmy Butler. He turned down 4/44mil this year and bet on himself. If he continues his play he is guaranteed a Max offer and Chicago would have to go over the salary cap and trade of pieces like Taj Gibson and possibly McDermott etc to keep him. Bulls may be unwilling to do that.

It isn’t like SA where they have contracts coming off the books and will resign Kawhi no matter what. Rose/Noah have max contracts and throw in Gasol/Gibson they are at the limit.

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 2:11 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

SIXERS NEED TO OFFER BUTLER THE MAX!!!!!!!!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 2:15 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Butler is getting the Max from someone…and yes he would be a perfect fit here….just depends on if the Bulls are willing to resign him at 15-16 mil.

RFAs to target
Butler-Chi
Jackson-OKC
Green-GSW

tua14768
tua14768
January 6, 2015 6:21 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Do you really think Butler wants to come here if another team offers him a relatively similar deal with the possibility of actually competing for something other than last place?

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 2:06 pm

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IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 3:27 pm

LOOK I’m DCar! CAPS LOCK CAPS LOCK! Homo-this homo that! Trash truck juice CAPS LOCK CAPS LOCK! I only talk when IM RIGHT! CAPS LOCK CAPS LOCK! Mens genitalia CAPS LOCK CAPS LOCK!

But when I’m wrong….I DISAPPEAR LIKE A STRAIGHT BITCH!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DCar
DCar
January 7, 2015 12:15 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

What kind of shit are you smoking bruh??? Who disappeared? I actually have a life, & work to do. I don’t have time talking to retarded, useless, wastes of oxygen like you! Seriously! I’ll tell you like I tell all the other keyboard gangstas on here, if you think I’m a bitch, blah, blah, blah, set up a meat & greet, & I’ll show you, what a so-called bitch I am. Your call Mr. BWAHAHAHAHAHA

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 12:23 am
Reply to  DCar

You’ve been posting since midnight yesterday Bitch ass lmao

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 12:32 am
Reply to  DCar

Bitch ass…asking to meet in a forum shows youre nothing but an insecure Bitch ass nigga…epitome of a keyboard gangsta….lmao

YOU AIN’T GONNA DO SHIT

CAPS LOCK GANGSTA

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DCar
DCar
January 7, 2015 12:43 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!!!! Punk ass, lil sis!

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2015 3:35 pm

MLB Hall of Fame Today

1) Randy Johnson
2) Pedro Martinez
3) John Smoltz
4) Craig Biggio

Missing the Cut
Mike Piazza, Jeff Bagwell, Tim Raines, Alan Trammel, C Shilling

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 4:48 pm
Reply to  paulman

John Smoltz? Mike Mussina is defiantly a better pitcher than Smoltz. I’d rather have Curt Schilling too.
Bonds and Clemens denied again.

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 5:21 pm

Beeeeee geeeeee oooooooo!!!!

My cousin

Proud

Will be there!!!!!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 4:57 pm

Dee Lynam thinks Joel Embiid gained a massive amount of weight over the last 3 weeks. Ideal minds eat and eat and eat LOL. They better get that chunky dude into a pool and fast to do some cardio without using injured foot.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 6, 2015 4:58 pm

oops idle minds

tua14768
tua14768
January 6, 2015 6:17 pm

It amazes me how certain people are of player’s careers after less than half of one NBA season. I feel as if people only comment on here to get a reaction instead of sharing their thoughts. I am not saying I think Noel is a stud, but I can’t say he’s a bust. It is nonsensical to say Noel is terrible and attempt to trade him and get something valuable after less than 35 games in his career.

It is time people begin thinking before typing.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 6:33 pm
Reply to  tua14768

Stop Tua you have common sense….

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 6, 2015 6:47 pm
Reply to  tua14768

That’s the negative narrative… Many ‘real’ fans think starting every conversation from the negative is the on,y way to be true… It’s a flaw in personality… It’s rampant on here.

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 8:07 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I think it’s pretty darn obvious that Noel’s offense is embarrassing. Whether he can develop into a defensive force I have no clue but I’m certain he will never be an offensive force. And for a team that has no scorers for us to burn a building block pick on a d stopper at best is a bad move imo.

I agree with the tear it down and build it up but when do we start getting talented offensive players?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:51 pm
Reply to  mhenski

ITS ONLY BEEN ONE YEAR! Lol Jesus Christ you act like Bynum happened 5 years ago.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 6, 2015 8:57 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

One year? Won’t this be their third straight year with a top three pick? Hey tanked to get Noel, tanked to get embid and are tanking again…. That’s three tanks… And they are so great at tanking not only did they get two (probably3) top three picks they got McW at 10 or 11 and saric at 10…. And I think they have another top ten pick this year… Don’t you think at some point all this ‘talent’ should win a few games? Stop fucking tanking…I understand why hey did it a time or two but three tanks and several dudes who don’t play… Nba blows

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 9:09 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Wrong…MCW was the first top 10 pick and they didn’t get to 10 by tanking they got it by having a mediocre squad and banking on Andrew Bynum. They got Noel for Holiday. Last year was the first year of true tank.

And it only prices the point. Go look at the 2012 draft and the to 10. A draft that we picked 15th and took Moe Harkless…why? Because of that nonsense thought process of winning games with no real shot at a title…

Meanwhile the Wizards get Beal at 3 Portland gets Lillard at 6 Raprors get Ross Pistons get Drummond etc. And we got Moe Harkless. Because we sat on a mediocre squad to win 30 games.

Gtfoh

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 6, 2015 9:20 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Hmm I thought they drafted Noel in top three and then McW? If I’m wrong then I’m sorry… Thought they traded a couple of good players turner, hawes to tank for Noel…then traded Holliday ..don’t know the details…

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 6, 2015 9:24 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

You are correct Noel for Holliday, McW was trading away hawes etc… If you don’t consider that a tank.. Well fine, whatever… Point is what a shit way to conduct business..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 9:14 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Only shows fans irrational and unrealistic impatience. 2012 we selected 15th…2012….

2013 we drafted 10th because somebody finally got a fucking clue this team had nothing. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Our assets in 2012…Spencer Hawes…Thaddeus Young Evan Turner…And Jrue Holiday…what a talented squad to build around….

SMFH

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 7, 2015 7:24 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Call it 2.5 tanks, unload turner, holiday and hawes was necessary and I call that half a tank…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 9:25 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

No because that happened last year. They went into last year with all those players with a promising rookie and it wasnt until all star they unloaded Hawes then Turner. That’s not taking that’s cleaning house of previous owners and regime mistakes. This year was an undoubtedly obvious tank…but it was clear and upfront. There was absolutely nothing if consequence outside of the draft that was coming here. It would have been ridiculous to pick up vets to win 2-3 more games than what they have now.

Look how many people mocked the Covington pick on here…with absolutely no clue in what he was doing in the D league or player he was.

Out of two drafts they have 3 starters with 1 more coming with Embiid. KJ MacDaniels looks like a steal…Covington a very nice role player…they are doing a good job finding and developing talent.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:55 pm
Reply to  mhenski

On top of Bynum only be a year removed…the Evan Turner pick was just as vital to this situation.

I guess the Bulls regret the offensive limited building block pick of Joakim Noah….

Or how the Mavericks had the offensive limited Tyson Chandler as the anchor to a championship.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 6, 2015 6:50 pm

To follow up and to be clear… I hate the nba and what it’s become.. But as a local of this area I would like the sixers to be good, relevant… I don’t know if Noel can play…it is obviously way too early to make that call..but damn I hope he can …same with a lot of the young guys that people on here bury constantly… Cox, l. Johnson, Foles, curry, Logan, McW, etc

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 7:10 pm

I love the NBA and the Western Conference playoffs are going to be awesome. On top of that if Derrick Rose is healthy the Bulls have built the deepest and best team in the NBA.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 6, 2015 7:21 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I am glad you love it.. For me too many non competitive games, teams… When a team has to tank 3 years in a row (sixers) to try to be competitive (and that might fail) there is something inherently wrong IMO

mhenski
mhenski
January 6, 2015 8:09 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

We will be tanking for at minimum 3 more. Minimum.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2015 8:47 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Stop it. Highly doubt we will be taking 3 more years…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 7, 2015 10:15 am

Milwaukee tonight at 7:00 —
Nerlans had a double double last time the Sixers played the Bucks. 14 pts, 10 rebounds. Nerlans defensive assignment was to guard Jabari Parker that game, LOL — things have changed since then he no longer plays Power Forward.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 11:52 am

He will more than likely guard Middleton tonight. Who is a really nice player. I see Sims manning the 5 more tonight.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 12:03 pm

Chad Fords Mock Draft and Big Board is out.

Okafor Towns Mudiay are the consensus top 3. I like Okafor but I see more potential in Towns in Mudiay. Mudiay would be my top choice followed by Towns.

mhenski
mhenski
January 7, 2015 3:09 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

hasnt towns been stinkin it up? no touch and cant score? thats what im told. i see he is getting short minutes…

okarfor just stuffing the box score nightly, no nights off. YES PLEASE

mundiay cutting up china but can he finish with his left hand consistently?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 12:08 pm

Another thing fans are losing sight on and I have not seen mentioned once on here is that currently the Heat pick would be between 11-30 and sits somewhere between 13-16.

That pick will belong to the Sixers…that will be a huge asset in the draft.

The trade down from Peyton to get Saric and another first rounder in this draft looks like a robbery right now.

I see MCW gone if we can land Mudiay. Dream would be draft Mudiay…trade MCW….Sign Butler/Dragic.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 7, 2015 2:44 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Sixers will add
7 new players in the next 2 years
————————————
2015 -Next season the Sixers will add Joel Embiid, top 6 pick in the draft, a top 20 pick in the draft ( Miami) and 2 Free Agents ( that is 5 new players)
—————————–
2016 – the Sixers will get 2 new players – a top 20 draft pick and Dario Saric.
————————————————————————————————–
to go with:
2014-added Nerlans, KJ McDaniels, Jeremie Grant, and Robert Covington

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 3:27 pm

Sixers add 2 free agents depending on if the swing and miss on a RFA. They will put an offer sheet out on someone…I’m hoping its 15mil a year for Jimmy Butler. If not theres Draymond Green, Goran Dragic, Kawhi Leonard etc.

Teams will definitely inquire about Noel if they draft another big. That 2nd pick in next years draft would be a nice pick to double up with an asset if they go that route.

paulman
paulman
January 7, 2015 3:49 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I still see no up and coming Free-Agent signing with 76ers.. Why would they ?? For Playing Time, Big $$$$, a Chance to Win…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 4:04 pm
Reply to  paulman

Because if you don’t get it from your team…a max contract is a max contract….its that damn simple.

A player like Jimmy Butler for example. If Chicago doesn’t pony up the Max…..You are telling me that he would turn down the max….be in top 5 market…and be the face of the franchise?

Stop it.

paulman
paulman
January 7, 2015 9:27 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

In Philadelphia?… I don’t think so..
He can sign with a Teams more poised to
Win within the next 2-3 Seasons and still
Get his $$$.. Not Philly..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 9:45 pm
Reply to  paulman

Really that’s why Kyrie Irvin resigned with Cleveland before knowing about Lebron right?

Exposure market share etc all tie into that decision. There’s only a couple of teams that can offer the max and the top spot etc.

This isn’t football where a players career is shorty and non guaranteed

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 5:43 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

That would be great IJ. I think there are some potential superstars in the 2016 & 2017 draft more so than this year. Noel would be a nice piece to add in a trade – and throw him off on some other sucker team – to get a veteran, and possibly another #1, or 2

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 5:43 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

and so is Saric

tua14768
tua14768
January 7, 2015 11:15 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

If that is the case and these two players are so bad, what would you possibly expect to for them? If Noel’s value is worth a first round pick, he is worth keeping. It makes no sense to get rid of a guy who is possibly worth a first round pick.

I’m not willing to get rid of Saric until I see a couple seasons from him in the NBA. It is a little risky to be throwing away potentially solid big men for picks two seasons from now.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 1:08 am
Reply to  tua14768

No, he wouldn’t be worth keeping if you can get an upgrade in the skill level, and talent like Okafor, who would be a more natural PF, or another #1 who is not a project, but is a lot more talented – not having to stick a square piece into a round hole like Noel.

Noel is as close to his ceiling as he is going to be.

Or acquire other vital pieces that may bring you a veteran Starter, and another #1. That would be more valuable than anything Noel himself could give the Sixers.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 1:14 am
Reply to  tua14768

With regards to Saric, I wouldn’t count on him bringing anything to this team either.

Who is the last International prospect to become an all star in the NBA in the last 10 years other than Dirk ??? – and he ‘s not Dirk, Kukoc, or Sabonis in terms of talent.

Any accomplishments in Europe mean nothing in the NBA, against non NBA level talent…Period…..Most who speak positively about him, are really holding out hope he pans out. But , I agree let’s see him play here before we ship him off.

With Noel, there is no need to wait – I’ve seen enough

tua14768
tua14768
January 8, 2015 4:00 pm
Reply to  tua14768

. I would love to have Okafor on this team and would gladly give up Noel if needed. However, I don’t know if we will be able to draft him since New York is all in with the tanking this season. We may end up with the third pick again because MN is not good either.

I can’t say at all that Noel has hit his ceiling after only 30 plus games. What NBA all-star or superstar ever hit their ceiling after only 30 plus games. I’m not saying he is going to be an all-star, but his numbers right now are on par with Noah’s. I think Noel will be known for his defense and energy after he gets more confidence and development under his belt. He’s only 20.

Your logic is flawed. You say Saric is not that good because he only faces European players. However, you like Mundiay who plays in the Chinese Basketball Association. Are you implying the CBA is more comparable to the NBA game than Euroleague? If so, what players can you name that have come out of the CBA and developed into solid NBA players over the last 10 years?

Good international players since Dirk – Manu Ginobili (future hall of famer), Goran Dragic, Marc Gasol, Pau Gasol, Serge Ibaka (not actually an all-star but pretty good), Tony Parker (future Hall of famer), Luol Deng and Giannis Antetokounmpo (just got here but looks good) and Andrew Wiggins.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 4:23 pm
Reply to  tua14768

Noel Stinks Tua, and will get no better…I can say that. Stop talking about comparable numbers – that’s bullshit – Noel doesn’t have close to the skill as Noah has.

If you think he will develop into something, continue to hold on to that wishful thinking – I choose to let him continue to make my point

Mundiay, doesn’t come from the CBA, he comes from America, and is a TOP 2 lottery pick unlike Saric – Your logic is the one that is flawed my friend. He was better than Saric in the 7th grade.

And none of the international players you mentioned are all stars. I didn’t say just good – I said All Stars…Thanks for resting my case.

tua14768
tua14768
January 8, 2015 4:51 pm
Reply to  tua14768

He’s playing in the CBA Gmcliff, not in America. Yes, he played high school ball in America but who ever mentions someone’s high school experience prior to coming to the NBA if they played professionally somewhere else. They don’t say that about Marc Gasol who played high school ball in Memphis, TN before going to the Euroleague. Flawed logic.

Why get Mundiay if we have MCW. Both do very good things, however niether one can shoot. You would be replacing one player with the same exact thing.

Wiggins and Giannis Antetokounmpo are not all-stars, but I’m sure they will be sooner than later. Dragic is not an all-star because the West is loaded with point guards. I’m sure Ibaka would be welcome on most teams even though technically he is not an all-star.

Pau Gasol, Marc Gasol, Deng, Ginobili and Parker have all made the all-star team at some point their careers. Two of the players I mentioned will be in the hall of fame. Research it.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 8:37 pm
Reply to  tua14768

Tua as you can see…GMCLIFF has no real knowledge of the sport. He just spouts off one or two known names and then when you dig deep he tries to change the narrative.

He’s clueless about it.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 8:37 pm
Reply to  tua14768

It doesn’t matter Tua, Mundiay didn’t learn his craft oversees, and being that highly regarded in High School, puts him in a different Class. Mundiay in the 10th grade was already better, and game ready than most International Prospects.

Mundiay is a Point Guard better suited to run Brett Brown’s San Antonio Style Offense, – ala Tony Parker – able to score but more willing to play within the designed Offense, than MCW. All he is looking for is to run, and gun, and pad his stats, and make himself look good – Which gets him in trouble with turnovers, and cost the Team possessions.

You are correct Wiggins, and Giannis aren’t all stars yet, but their talent is obvious. You guys base your argument of Noels Talent on wishful thinking – even though his game says otherwise.

But if you feel he is a budding talent – Let his game speak for itself – so far it hasn’t said anything but “Man the Sixers are dumb”.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 8:41 pm
Reply to  tua14768

Saric to me is a mute issue, because he won’t be anything close to that. But I can count on you and IJ, making as many excuses as to why he hasn’r been successful, and although everybody else see’s it – You believe he’ll come around, yet you think I’m Clueless??…LOL!!!

to EACH HIS OWN…..

tua14768
tua14768
January 11, 2015 12:18 am
Reply to  tua14768

@Gmclif. Can you explain how Saric has not been successful up until this point? He had a strong showing this past summer in the World Cup and has been named the youngest Euroleague monthly mvp. He seems pretty successful so far.

Did you catch that terrible international player Pau Gasol score 46 with 18 boards tonight? Just another international bust.

Muniday is no different than MCW. Does everything but shoot. He is playing inferior talent in high school and is doing the same in the CBA. It would be impressive if he was doing this in college in America where there are better guards. It reminds me of Exum last year. Look good overseas while avoiding the competition in the U.S.

tua14768
tua14768
January 11, 2015 12:21 am
Reply to  tua14768

Just to add, i never said you were clueless. Your arguments speak for itself.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 11, 2015 12:39 am
Reply to  tua14768

Didn’t Marc Gasol win defensive player of the year Tua?

Man those Euro’s sure do become mediocre led than all star type players in the NBA.

I mean Tony Parker…guys never been a top 5 nba PG…

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2015 5:47 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I for one would love to see Mundiay run the show instead of MCW, then sign a defensive minded shooter, like a Khawai Leonard, or Terrance Ross to pair with him in the backcourt

mhenski
mhenski
January 7, 2015 3:14 pm

The Clippers have traded Jared Cunningham to the 76ers.
He’s most famous for being crossed-over by Eric Bledsoe so badly that he was in the stands, but Cunningham does have some athleticism. He’s only played 4.9 minutes per game in his career and made only 35.3 percent from the field, so it’s hard to be too bullish on him. Unless the 76ers move some guys around, he’s unlikely to get significant minutes.
Source: Adrian Wojnarowski on Twitter
Jan 7 – 2:39 PM

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 3:24 pm
Reply to  mhenski

They are release Cunningham….merely a money move.

mhenski
mhenski
January 7, 2015 3:26 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

The Clippers are targeting Tony Wroten in a trade.
Interesting. Wroten has gone from trash to non-trash thanks to how he’s thrived at getting to the rim while his passing has been better, too. He is one of a handful of bench guys to have a usage rate over 30.0 this season and he’s been a fantasy factor except in percentages and turnovers. Of course, a move from Philly would destroy his fantasy appeal. Meanwhile, the 76ers might be acquiring Jared Cunningham, but they could waive him, too. If both Wroten is dealt and Cunningham is waived, the 76ers would only have one point guard, Michael Carter-Williams.
Source: Dan Woike on Twitter
Jan 7 – 2:55 PM

tua14768
tua14768
January 7, 2015 5:19 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I would be disappointed with the Sixers if they traded Tony Wroten. If they are interested in building a winning franchise you cannot constantly trade away your players. At some point you have to let the players on your team develop together. Wroten is still very young (21). He looks to be developing into one of the best scorers in the league. He does need to work on his turnover issues, but he gives the Sixers a slasher at the guard position who can score. If they get rid of him it is a huge mistake.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 7:52 pm
Reply to  tua14768

Wroten at best is just a volume scorer 6th man. He shouldn’t be starting. I am not a fan of Wroten. His game makes no sense to me.

tua14768
tua14768
January 7, 2015 11:23 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

If he is a volume scorer 6th man than good. That means we have a sixth man. My point is the sixers need to begin to develop roles for some of these players. We need a scorer outside of Covington. Carter-Williams is a terrible shooter and so is Noel. We need a shooting guard who can score. KJ McDaniels is very athletic and can play defense, but he can’t dribble or shoot the ball.

I would like to see Mario Hezonja from Croatia.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 9:46 pm

Tonight is a prime example why Tony Wroten is just a developmental asset….if they get even a 2nd for him it’s a coup.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 7, 2015 9:48 pm

And tonight in a game with Giannis and Noel on the court…Noel was the best young player on the floor active from tip…if our guard play was better he would be a 12 7 2 guy EASILY.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 1:00 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

No he wasn’t IJ……Giannis is a hands down much more talented player than Noel……Forget the stats. You can just look at their individual skill and see Adetkombo is the superior talent….

Do you honestly think Noel is a better talent because he scored 5 more points tonight????….LOL!!!……Tell me you’re joking??

But I get it now, you’re going to go down with Noel kicking and screaming no matter how much you embarrass yourself huh?? and no matter how much his game says otherwise.

It’s useless talking to you on this subject, because you see it the way you see it….Blindly, and through rose colored glasses…Look at Tua’s comment above…..Do you think he saw a good player in Noel tonight???

IJ, I can see you are just a stubborn man

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 2:45 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Here is a comment from a fan that can see from CSN Philly –

Bradco

You have to wonder what Noel is being taught in practice. He clearly has no go to moves when he gets the ball.. He mostly stands at the top of the key and tries to set screens with his bony frame. When he does get off a shot, its usually a running left handed hot mess that you cringe when he shoots it.. Noel has also shown he is brittle and has missed a few games with minor injuries. At this point, I can’t see where Noel would ever be a starter for a contending NBA team due to his lack of skill set.. I see him as a backup energy type guy off the bench whether its here or somewhere else.. Some people are preaching patience with him as he’s going to gain weight and valuable experience… Of course he is going to get better and bigger… Will he be that much bigger and that much better to really be the big time player the Sixers need? I say no to that.. and I’m hopeful we get Okafor in the draft and get something in a trade for Noel……

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 2:51 am
Reply to  gmcliff

and another –

Mike Milsted

Noel might have good stats, but his ability to defend other centers in the NBA is not good. He’s just not starting five calibre. Hinkie should trade him ans get something of value now. Once Embiid starts,

Noel will be a bench warmer……

And more from fans who don’t look at Noel with Rose colored glasses-
from CSN Philly
jokerman

I watch every game, and Noel looks like he never played the game before this year on the offensive end. I have never seen an NBA player look so completely awkward with the ball in his hands. I’ve coached fifth graders who looked much smoother driving to the hoop. He shoots left-handed a lot on relatively uncontested shots, which makes no sense, since he’s right handed. I can’t believe he actually grew up in this country playing basketball. I will be surprised if ever develops even an average offensive game because he has miles to go to get there……

My point in posting those comments is that Noel being a player, or potential star, is not the opinion of everyone, because most of us can see.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 2:55 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Bradco

I’ve also compared him to a Dennis Rodman…who coming out of college was an athlete but had no shooting skills..Being 6’11 Noel will always have a place in the league whether he gets any better or not.. The status of Noel will be clearer after the lottery is drawn.. If the Sixers get the first pick and the ability to draft Okafor, they will certainly entertain offers for Noel.. If they can’t get much back for him, they’ll do as you suggested and make him the first big man off the bench

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 2:57 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Bradco

The overall stats don’t lie… Noel is poor in so many categories this year…Guys like Noel are coming into the NBA with size and not developed enough skills…Noel would most likely be buried on the bench on most NBA teams.. If you really watch the Sixers closely, Noel goes invisible for long stretches. There are those that don’t want to sound overly critical of Noel and are preaching patience.. There are others who see a 6th pick in the draft who cant shoot, can’t handle the ball and is too scrawny to be a big factor inside.. Somewhere in the middle is where Noel will end up.. He’s not a star caliber NBA player for sure… Embiid has superior skills when compared to Noel… Okafor the freshman center from Duke has far superior skills to Noel.. and can shoot.. If the Sixers are fortunate enough to get this years first pick.. they should draft Okafor and pair him with Embiid.. If Noel cannot be traded for something decent in return.. he may find a niche as a Dennis Rodman type energy guy who comes off the bench to blocks shots, get steals and get rebounds and play against other teams second stringers

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 3:00 am
Reply to  gmcliff

fuzzyb49

Dei wears rose colored glasses. Good college big man who lacks body and skill set to be an effective NBA player. He needs to practice shooting at least 8 hours every day forever. MCW needs same drill. Not looking like 2 cornerstone pieces of a contending team 2 – 3 years down the road. When there are even less people attending games in that time frame the team will be sold again for a profit by Harris group. Hinkie is like Humpty Dumpty and the egg is broken

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 3:03 am
Reply to  gmcliff

mm

Exactly, these are the same people who thought Evan the stink Turner had game. Years went before they shut there mouth about Turner. Do I watch basketball, before most of these thoughtless sophomoric punks were born so they should S T F U . Only 23% of players in this league are 2nd round picks, and of those only half make any impact on there respective teams, yet Stinkie acquires 2nd round picks as if he believes there have the answer to the meaning of life. Stinkie rode the back of Daryl Morey and has no clue about what constitutes NBA talent. MCW is the biggest turnover machine to come into the league in years. Upon drafting him, Stinkie declared MCW could get anywhere he wants on the court. Noel is not a difference maker;he’s a role player, nothing more. WILL HE GET BETTER. Maybe. But his offensive game is so rudimentary , its years away from being AVERAGE!!! Saric Please!!!! Another role player People are clueless on this site. Totally clueless

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 10:35 am
Reply to  gmcliff

LMAO-GMCliff…..posting comments…from other message boards…SAD.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 10:47 am
Reply to  gmcliff

GMCliff don’t be a hypocrite….don’t quote stats and eyeball game…then when they don’t work in your favor say forget stats. The stubborn person is you. You just are more worried about being right than any discussion and you have yet to be right on anything basketball related or go into anything deep on the bball end.

Giannis at best right now is a sixth man. He is a utility player that can do a little bit of everything but is skilled at nothing. He is not a lockdown defender or a rim protector at his length. His ideal fit is with a running team like the Denver Nuggets or the Phoenix Suns. He is a liability in the halfcourt set and his primary points or with the ball in his hands in transition or off of faceups to the basket.

He is a 2/3…THAT CANT SHOOT AT ALL.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 11:38 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

But you think Noel brings something to the table?????…….Excuse me, that’s hypocritical.

Noel is FLAT OUT sorry, – LOL – but your belittling someone with 3 times the skill level he has at the same age, with less basketball experience…,..Yet still proclaiming Noels superiority???????

You see what I mean, stubborn, unreasonable, blind, and outright hypocritical………laughable IJ…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 8, 2015 8:39 am

GMCliff – what is wrong with you? Why are you copy and pasting comment replies from readers of the CSNPhilly website?

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 8, 2015 8:51 am

Giannis Antetokounmpo did not play the 2nd half of yesterday’s Sixers/ Bucks game. He was the only Buck who didn’t have a good game but only played 1st half. Noel did block one of a Giannis’ shot. Giannis was able to shake Covington a few times but missed the finish at the rim 3 of 4 times.The Sixers’ height bothering Giannis but he was faster than the Sixers defenders and easily found open space on the floor to shoot but couldn’t convert.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 8, 2015 8:54 am

Nerlans dominated the Bucks on the offensive end in the first half. Offensive Rebounds and easy dunks. Bucks had a 2014 second round draft choice Johny O’Bryant try to defend Noel and he couldn’t. Total mismatch.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 9:07 am

He didn’t dominate nobody. Shut up asshole, what do you know about talent.
your opinion isn’t worth two farts from a dead man. Give me your suggestions 2-7, OR SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Noel stinks, he can’t touch Giannis in terms of talent, anyone with eyes can see that.

Izzell, and I don’t se eye to eye on this topic, but for the most part we are on the same page on other topics, so at the very least I respect his opinion, because he does make sense in what he says – except on Noel.

But I give less than a darn, what you think or say. So if you don’t mind, unless you’re ready to embarrass yourself with your prospects 2-7 shut the hell up.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 8, 2015 9:16 am
Reply to  gmcliff

GMCliff, You didn’t watch the game last night. I can tell — you don’t watch many contests on TV like you proclaim. You do however read others’ opinions and plagiarize their thoughts.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 9:28 am

I didn’t hear any prospects. It reads like Charlie Browns teacher.

You’re a complete dumbass if you think I have to plagiarize someone else’s thoughts, and not have an opinion of my own – Remember it was my opinion that Howie was a fraud – who did I get that from??

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 9:30 am

He had 13 points who did he dominate???

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 9:31 am
Reply to  gmcliff

He averages 7…who has he dominated???…That’s the dumbass reasoning that comes from your thinking, and talent evaluation…Please just shut up..

Rounds 2-7…..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 8, 2015 9:36 am
Reply to  gmcliff

GMCliff — I wrote Nerlans dominated the 1st half on the offensive end — He had 9 points, 4 offensive rebounds and the 2nd round LSU rookie Johny O’Bryant was over matched.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 8, 2015 9:38 am

GMCliff every time you interrupt my comment you get humiliated. When are you going to realize this.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 11:10 am

Yeah right

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 8, 2015 9:10 am

MCW is brutal this season. He can’t shoot.
NBA teams are playing a high school 2-3 zone on the Sixers when Wroten and MCW are in the game to prevent them from penetrating to use the blackboard to get points. They are daring MCW and Wroten to shoot out side. MCW hasn’t won many point guard duels season. He gets outperformed every night by his cover. He beat San Antonio’s backup Cory Joseph ( Parker DNP), he beat Minn Mo Williams, he beat Det’s Brandon Jennings, he beat Mia Mario Chalmers, & he beat Cle’s Dellavedova the other 24 point guard duels dominated him.

paulman
paulman
January 8, 2015 11:36 am

MCW is nowhere near a Top 15-20 NBA Point Guard..
His Shooting his Brutal, His Defense is very Poor for a Player his Size..
I Just don’t see that Competitive Fire, Drive and Leadership where he is going to take over a Game when it’s counted on… He’s an Average Guard at Best

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 11:41 am
Reply to  paulman

But he won ROTY…..Doesn’t that define him as a can’t miss prospect???

He can’t be average……can he Paul????

paulman
paulman
January 8, 2015 1:10 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

That ROY honor means little to me,
#1) It was a very weak Draft Class in 2013 by all aspects, look at the t Top 10 Selected, who outside of Orlando’s Olildapo, has even Played or contributed much since they were Drafted
(Noel,Porter,Bennet, McLemore,Len,Adams,Antetokoumpo & McCollum)

#2) Play 30 Minutes a Game for a Bad Team over his Fellow Rookie Draft Class means a lot of padded “Stats”

Because MCW was the Best of his Class does not carryover and mean he is one the Best in the NBA because he is far from it…

paulman
paulman
January 8, 2015 1:12 pm
Reply to  paulman

Cliff- It’s like when you go down to your Local Pool Hall and you
spot the Best Looking Gal who is sitting down at the Corner Stool in the Place.. Does this mean she is a Real Babe? Or just the Hottest Chick
in the Place… Ha

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 2:10 pm
Reply to  paulman

Here goes Paulman trying to talk about basketball and kidding up to the peanut gallery.

paulman
paulman
January 8, 2015 4:42 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I can’t stand the NBA for what it has become and everyone associated with it to be honest IJ..

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 4:25 pm
Reply to  paulman

and I don’t go to pool halls brother…lol

paulman
paulman
January 8, 2015 4:37 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Well for you then, to your local “Bingo Parlor”

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 4:24 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I was being sarcastic Paul…I agree with you..

paulman
paulman
January 8, 2015 4:43 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

IJ is a Regular of this “Pool Joint” that I am referring too…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 8:20 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paulman you know nothing about basketball lol it’s why you tried to blow up don’t stats on Faried and looked like a moron then and even worse now

Gtfoh

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 3:36 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paulman once again showing that you know nothing about basketball.

Breakdown of the 30 teams.

6 have no PG and will be looking toward draft and free agency.

That would leave 24 left.

Out of that 24 3 drafted rookies last year.

21 left….

Out of that 21 3 have traded for a starting PG within the last year.

18 left…..out of that 18 There is a solid 10 that cant be disputed. Top half of the 10 with young talent and vet mix.

That leaves MCW in the bottom of that mix. After only a rookie year.

So what your saying is he is one of the worst pgs in the league and has hit his plateau as a player.

ABSOLUTE NONSENSE.

STOP TALKING ABOUT BASKETBALL.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 10:42 am

In regards to Jimmy Butler and other RFAs, that is another reason why being as low to the salary cap floor as possible is HUGE. The Sixers can offer an RFA the max….and front load the majority of the contract within the first 2-3 years. That is basically what happened to Jeremy Lin and Omar Asik. Chicago is already near the max and would have to move players. They can do it…however if the Sixers frontloaded a contract they would have their hands tied and would basically be playing loyalty and hometown discount.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 11:17 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

So right now the Bull are committed to 63 million and paying the LT (luxury tax) without a cap hold for Jimmy Butler. A 15 mil a year max would put them at the dollar for dollar tax stage. They would have to move Taj Gibson 8 mil salary and move Kirk Hinrich as well.

If the Sixers were to the offer the max but jump the first two years into the 20 mil a year range the Bulls couldn’t counter without trading Mirotic or McDermott as well.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 10:49 am

And GMCliff the embarrassment is you…..when you have to copy and past comments from a poster named FuzzyB49 to validate your argument…

YOU HAVE NONE…….

(MIC DROPPED)

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 11:13 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

But you do see my point, because nevertheless, I’m not the only person that feels that way about Noel. His skill level, and potential from your point of view is not universal, nor envisioned by the majority.

tua14768
tua14768
January 8, 2015 12:53 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I think he is playing ok for a guy who has not played competitive basketball in over a year. He is a rookie. Give him some time to get confidence and develop. MCW on the other hand really needs to work on his shooting. This is the NBA. He has to constantly work on his jumper all offseason every single day.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 8, 2015 2:14 pm
Reply to  tua14768

Agree Tua — Nerlans is 20 years old, Embiid is 20 years and so is Dario Saric — when these 3 twenty year old Sixers are 25 years years old they are a perennial playoff team and possible contender. Relax have some patience. Additionally they will add a top 6 draft pick who will be a nineteen year old player who will be 24 then.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 4:48 pm

Providing a list of his rookie rankings is a desperate attempt to validate your stance. This is the worst rookie class in at least the last 25 years so being at the top or near the top of these categories doesn’t mean much. So he might be the best of a bad bunch???

Also, who do the sixers have working with him? Sean Rooks? As Tom McGinnis would say “Are you kidding me?!”. Noel has been around the team for 2 years, able to play for 1 1/2 of them and still looks completely unsure of what to do.

His offense is his weakness. How bout an offensive-minded center to work with him? The rate things are going, if Embiid doesn’t turn out to be Olajuwon 2.0, this tank will be for nothing.

tua14768
tua14768
January 8, 2015 4:56 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

This is the worst rookie class in 25 years? Seriously? Prior to this season, when has Noel actually played competitive basketball? Just because you are around the team for one year, not two as you incorrectly stated, does not mean you will improve if you are not actually playing.

This time last year Noel was not cleared to play. He was still recovering.

Research is needed here before posting.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 4:27 pm
Reply to  tua14768

Bullshit…His age has nothing to do with anything…Screw patience..He’s hot garbage

I can show you better than I can tell you; Better yet he will show you.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 3:14 pm

Its nonsense to talk about trading after year. It only shows that those who are doing the talking aren’t even looking at what is going on around the league.

You only have to see what the Cavs got for the Timofey Mozgov(2 first round picks) a player who was getting limited minutes in Denver and see that you don’t jettison talent for nothing in return.

They can sit on Noel just like the Thunder did Jeff Green….although they traded him at the time for Kendrick Perkins who looked better than what his stats said. However the notion at the time was Perkins was the veteran missing piece for a young team.

You continue to develop them….the players don’t have to be come superstars…they have to become star assets for other teams to covet if they have needs.

Sixers are doing just fine stockpiling….and its only year 2.

On top of that….look at what the power of 2nd round picks got. KJ McDaniels.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 8, 2015 4:18 pm

I am not nearly as knowledable about bball but here is my 2 cents. Stop drafting dudes that can’t shoot. The 6ers don’t have one guy that can shoot and they keep drafting dudes who’s one downside is that they can’t shoot.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 4:28 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Noel can walk on water to these suckers Bugs. He’s a joke to me.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 8:32 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Stop trying to change the narrative GMCLIFF…no one has said that. You’re the only idiot on here going into the deep end with your belief.

After posting comments from another site….you lost on all fronts go regroup become informed.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 8:46 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

his play is terrible. It’s THAT OBVIOUS, yet you continue to claim he’ll grow into an impactful asset, and you think I’m the idiot???

I haven’t changed the narrative, you keep trying to defend what can’t be defended….He stinks

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 8:48 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Shut up already. You were proven wrong it happens get over it. It’s not that serious.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 8:51 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

You haven’t proven anything, But he has, and you’re still in denial.

Like I said to each his own. I just thought you were smarter than that.
So I GUESS YOU’RE RIGHT, BEING WRONG DOES HAPPEN.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 9:11 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

You should have shut up from summer league and just said nothing.

Lmao stick to football.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 9:16 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

You’re posting user comments fromy Fuzzyb49….

Because you can’t find established known nba people who back up your argument.

I’m starting to feel bad making you look this foolish. I know you’re smarter than this.

And don’t even try to cut out snippets lol I follow it all.

Stand down 🙂

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 9, 2015 11:09 am
Reply to  gmcliff

I can’t look foolish when so many agree with me IJ. Stop trying to flatter yourself.

You’re not correct, just because Tua, and E0S who are just as blind agree with you.

You’re the one that looks foolish, when the guy is a crap player, and all you have to lean on with him is wishful thinking.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 9, 2015 12:32 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Lmao my bad…I forget FuzzyB49 agrees with you…

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU LOSE.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 9, 2015 2:41 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Honestly I haven’t heard anything – not 1 thing – you’ve said that proves me wrong fella???

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 8, 2015 8:50 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Paulman said Kenneth Faried was a better scorer and rebounder than Nic Vucevic by trying to finagle stats…..he was wrong looked like an idiot and moved on…you can learn from him.

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 2:48 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Incorrect IJ,
I stated that Faried Career Production was very similar’s
To Vucevic, who I also like.. They Play different styles where Faired is more Defensive, Runs the Floor, shoots from around the basket with putbacks, etc..
Vic can step out and hit those 15-18ft Jumper that Faired can’t
I stated then that I like both Players, though Vuc has a longer term
Upside due to his size and better oval shooting
Ability…
I also was very adamant about the 76ers giving up
And giving away Vuc in that disaster Bynum Deal
I said it then and that it would set the 76ers back
3-5 Years which is exactly what is happening.
I don’t have to follow the 76ers closely to know they are
Incompetent and Years away from even being a .500 Team
They could have all the $$$ to spend in Free-Agency
No good, young players in their prime is coming to the abyss
Of the NBA…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 9, 2015 8:26 am
Reply to  paulman

No you didn’t Paulman. Stop LYING.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 9, 2015 8:36 am
Reply to  paulman

No you didn’t Paulman don’t lie and backtrack and look more pathetic. You said Faried was the better player score and they were similar in rebounding because of average.

AND WAS FLAT WRONG ON ALL ACCOUNTS.

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 12:59 pm
Reply to  paulman

Well go look at the Original Post then IJ..
That’s exactly what I said… that both were good Young Players and had very similar Stats and Production in their 3 Year Career’s in the NBA with Vuc having the Upside for Scoring and Faired being that Rebounder, Clean up around the BOards that every Good Team loves to have… ..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 9, 2015 11:00 pm
Reply to  paulman

CHIMP BOY PAULMAN-STOP LYING

tua14768
tua14768
January 8, 2015 5:05 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

. From my understanding the reasoning behind acquiring players who can do many things for the exception of shooting is that shooting is one of the easiest aspects a basketball player can improve upon. Playing defense, blocking shots, stealing the ball and rebounding have more to do with effort and a willingness which is more instinctual. Whereas, shooting is a skill that can be developed in a couple years.

Kwahi Leonard is a perfect example. He came into the NBA with all of the physical traits but could not shoot to save his life. Once in SA he developed his shot and now, at only 23 he is a finals MVP. A great example of a counterargument is Carmelo Anthony. He came into the league knowing how to shoot, but could not do much else. After more than a decade, he can still shoot but he still cannot do much else.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 8, 2015 8:48 pm
Reply to  tua14768

But that’s not Noels analogy…….Leonard, and Carmelo have actual talents that didn’t need to be coached, and developed in order to say, “Here, see he does have some potential”……No he doesn’t

tua14768
tua14768
January 10, 2015 9:21 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Leonard definitely needed to be developed. He was a raw talent coming into the league. Luckily for him he is on a franchise with good coaches and great veteran players that helped him develop. He didn’t do it by himself.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 10, 2015 6:47 pm
Reply to  tua14768

I disagree, He started his rookie year on a veteran team because of his talent, but that is just your opinion.

The point in mentioning him which you keep ignoring is Noel DOESN’T have the talent…..Realistically, even if he were to win ROTY, he still realistically, is a role player that should be coming off the bench….period

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 10, 2015 7:13 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Realistically you know nothing about basketball and should remain quiet GMCLiff move on and stop looking like a dumbass

focused
focused
January 10, 2015 7:44 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Izell, I really enjoy your post, and consider you one of the more competent guys on GCobb.com. But, I have to be honest with you. I haven’t been close to impressed by anything he’s done this year.

From what I’ve read from GMCliff, and with all due respect to you as well, I don’t think half of the guys on here thinks he’s close to a dumbass. I for one totally agree with Cliff, because, I too haven’t seen anything from Nerlens Noel that says he will be anything close to what the Sixers brass is hoping for.

I know that he’s young, coming off an injury, but again to be honest, I’ve seen better – No offense, excellent Shot blocking ability, Not a strong rebounder, horrible foul shooter, and prone to foul trouble, decent one half, disappears the next. But will still flash on occasion, but not very often, or through an entire game.

Help me understand why you think he will be a star one day? I’m really curious as to why you think so highly of him.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 10, 2015 7:52 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

He hasn’t provided that answer for me yet Focused. He keeps saying I don’t know basketball, yet has yet to defend his stance, although Noel stinks, and yet It’s obvious to so many except him.

tua14768
tua14768
January 10, 2015 11:49 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

. I am uncertain why you keep mentioning Noel. The original question dealt with why the Sixers kept on picking guys who can’t shoot. I answered why. You keep bringing up Noel. He obviously needs to develop his offensive game. However, just because he hasn’t mastered it to your liking in his long 32 game NBA career doesn’t mean he can’t.

Leonard did need to be developed just like every player that has ever entered the NBA. Leonard is not the exception to this rule. Jordan developed, Kobe developed and LeBron developed. They did not enter the league with the same skills they have or had in their prime. Anyone will tell you that.

Leonard was not a good shooter when entering the NBA. He has developed since then. Anyone will tell you that too. Leonard could do everything else. He went from being a sold role player to a major piece very quickly. Some guys develop quicker than others, he happens to be one of them.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 11, 2015 12:06 am
Reply to  tua14768

Tua do not engage him…As you can see logged in as another account…praising himself and agreeing

Lol

That’s how sad he is.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 9, 2015 8:21 am
Reply to  tua14768

Tua, i understand that reasoning, but the problem is that a lot of these guys have athleticism which cannot be taught. They didn’t have to work at it to be where they are. Shooting takes a lot of time and effort and a lot of fine details which the majority of NBA players are not willing to give the effort too get to.

And if this is the theory behind the 6ers strategy, which one of the players that they have drafted has actually developed a shot since they were drafted? I can’t think of any.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 9, 2015 8:28 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

What player develops a drop dead jumper after 1 year? If it was that easy everyone would have lights out jumpers.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 9, 2015 8:46 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Where did I say one year Izzell? I am not criticizing Noel. He is a work in progress though he has a limited offensive game.

I am talking about 2s and 3s that they drafted. Iggy? Turner? Track record isn’t very good, so I am not holding my breath for MCW either. They are going to have to get a lot of production from the 2 and 3 spot, so those guys need to be able to do more than slash and dunk.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 9, 2015 8:57 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

MCW, has regressed. He lost 3 veteran starters who were better than their current replacements ( young, turner and hawes) and had shoulder surgery. I’m not ready to give up on MCW.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 9, 2015 9:03 am

Eagles. I am not ready to give up on him either, but he is not going to progress with the team that is around him. He is gonna be a pass first PG if they actually get someone for him to pass to. That along with length on defense and I think that he will be a solid Pg. But he is not going to put up big offensive numbers and nor should he. That is why they are going to need the scoring from other places. Couple that with not much from Noel and you are going to really have to have Embiid and Saric put up a lot of points and then whoever they get to play the 2.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 9, 2015 8:23 am

Fuzzy before nine, bwahahaahahahahaha

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 9, 2015 8:27 am

according to Fuzzy Before Nine, … wait a second… let me catch my breath … LMAO —-

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 9, 2015 8:32 am

according to Fuzzy Before Nine, GMCliff has a point and is 100% correct and hit the nail right on the head. If it’s good enough for Fuzzy and Gmcliff then i agree, LOL. How much more proof do you need than that. LMAO

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 10, 2015 6:51 pm

Where’s YOUR proof that I’m wrong?????

mhenski
mhenski
January 9, 2015 2:16 pm

The Bulls are prepared to offer Jimmy Butler a new max-deal contract when he becomes a restricted free agent this offseason, according to David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune.
No surprises here as Butler has emerged as an elite two-guard in the league. He’s averaging 21.7 points, 6.3 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 1.6 steals, and 1.0 three-pointer per game while shooting 47.8 percent from the field and 83.3 percent from the charity stripe (on 8.0 attempts per game). He’s shown no signs of slowing down, and has been one of the better stories in fantasy basketball this season. Don’t trade him, and keep him if that’s an option.
Source: Hoops Rumors
Jan 9 – 2:10 PM

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 2:35 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Nice, J Butler is an up and coming Player and Star in the NBA and the Future Leader for the Bulls and has no business or interest in joining a “Black Hole” Franchise, like the 76ers.. It Is what It Is…

mhenski
mhenski
January 9, 2015 2:42 pm
Reply to  paulman

According to two sources with inside knowledge of the 76ers-Nets negotiations, the 76ers had agreed to release Andrei Kirilenko after the trade was consummated, but did not follow through on the deal.
Kirilenko wanted to become a free agent, and the Nets had other trade partners available, but decided to deal AK-47 to the 76ers so that he could indeed be waived and sign with a team of his choosing. He obviously has no desire to play for the 76ers, and perhaps Hinkie is holding onto him as a potential asset in a future trade. Nonetheless, not going through with a handshake deal could earn Hinkie the reputation of someone that is not to be trusted.
Source: philly.com
Jan 9 – 9:44 AM

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 3:12 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Joe Banner was overheard at “Paulman’s Pub” saying some nasty things about GM Hinkie…. It’s Beyond Ugly anymore at Broad & Pattison …

mhenski
mhenski
January 9, 2015 3:53 pm

JUST WAIT UNTIL ALL THE NBA SUPERSTAR FREE AGENTS START LINING UP TO SIGN HERE ONCE WE BUILD THAT STATE OF THE ART PRACTICE FACILITY IN BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN CAMDEN

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 8:41 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Rumors out of Turkey is that Dario Saric is in no rush to join the 76ers and plans to fulfill his 3 Year Deal with hid Turkish Club
So now we are up to 2017/2018 before the 76ers
Even win 30-35 Games
Meanwhile MCW walks when his Rookie Deal is Up
And 76ers are back to Square 1
What a joke they have become and the entire NBA
Check Eastern Conference and 6 of the 15 Teams are .500
Or better with 2 Teams just barely over .500

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 9, 2015 10:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

Shut up Paulman and troll somewhere else. Your lack of knowledge and need for attention it’s pathetic.

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 8:48 pm

Celtics Trade Jeff Green to Memphis Grizzlies for T Price and his expiring Contract and a 1st Round Pick
Celtics also Trade Center Brandon Wright to Ohoenix
For a conditional 1 Rd Pick
Add Celts,Knicks,Lakers T-Wolves with joining the 76ers to “Tanking”
For rest of Season
1/6th of the NBA openly Tanking to lose Games
To get higher Draft Picks to select 18-19 Year Old Kids who don’t
Even know what they are doing yet…
A Travesty…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 9, 2015 9:54 pm

SIXERS WIN!!!!! SIXERS WIN!!!!!

NERLINS NOEL THE GAME WINNING DUNK!!!!

SHOWYALUV PHILLY SHOWYALUV!!!!!