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Outlining Defensive Front Seven Changes For The Eagles

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The defensive line of Logan, Cox, Thorton is one that has yet to reach their potential.  If the Eagles were to let Thorton sign elsewhere, I’d be in favor of starting Curry.   The coaches say he is undersized, yet when inserted into the lineup, he quickly finds himself into the backfield.   He must play a larger role in the defense in 2015.  Beau Allen will serve as the back-up nose tackle, 2014 5th rounder Hart should replace Blair.

Adding a guy like a Kenrick Ellis (NYJ) who has exceptional size at 6’4” and 346 pounds for short yardage situations and goal-line work could provide an inexpensive option for depth purposes.

The main issue is with the line backer core.

Linebackers

We know that Connor Barwin is a stud, Michael Kendricks shows an arsenal of athleticism and football instincts, but the question marks flood this team after these two.

-Graham is going to find a starting job as a 4-3 defensive end.

-Trent Cole wants to retire as an Eagle; he is the “best” option as a starting OLB with what we have on the roster.

-Marcus Smith that former “1st” rounder, what can we really expect?  He has been tried at both the ILB/OLB positions, but what have we heard about him?  He struggles to understand concepts, not a fan of contact.

-Ryans, he was a beast in 2013, was following the same path in 2014 but then the season ending injury.  I was ecstatic when we made the trade for Ryans, I get why Chip has the “man-crush” for him, but I’m worried about the type of player we would see in 2015.  Ryans was on the field for pretty much every snap, guys never return at 100% the following year after the injury he sustained, so it’s realistic to think that we would see a guy who mentally “wanted” to give his all, but his body limited that from happening.  If Ryans were indeed the starter in 2015, the Eagles “must” sign an upper tier back-up, or draft an ILB in the first two rounds of the draft as his replacement.  I’ll get more in depth with the draft in the upcoming months, but a guy I really like is ILB/OLB Benardrick McKinney out of Mississippi State.

-The rest of your linebackers are guys who can be a stop gap starter for a game or two, help with special teams, but we need to improve.

We hope Travis Long can contribute and the same with Goode, but opposing offenses will not fear these guys.  The same with Acho, these are guys you fill out your roster with during final cuts.  Braman is a special team only guy, and although Casey Matthews just had his best season as an Eagle, it’s time for him to go elsewhere.  So what is available free agency?

ILB

Brandon Spikes(BUF)-If the Eagles were looking to make an immediate substitution for Ryans, Spikes would be the best free agent ILB available.

Larry Foote-(ARI)-This would be a nice one year deal with a possible team option for the second, a savvy veteran who provides experience, depth and could help mentor some of the younger linebackers on the team.

Mason Foster-(TB)-Foster is certainly on the smaller side, but he is extremely quick and very versatile.   I think he could work with Kendricks with how the Eagles mix up their look.

OLB

Jabaal Sheard-(CLE)-I really like this kid, and I think he could replace Cole if the Marcus Smith project ends up as a failed experiment.

Dan Skuta (SF)- Northing flashy about his game, plays with toughness and likes to mix it up, a nice addition to a defense really that could use a guy with a mean streak.

Akeem Ayers (NE)- Former early second round pick who made a huge difference after arriving to the Patriots defense.

O’Brien Schofield (SEA)– Has experience playing both DE in a 4-3 and OLB in a 3-4, would be a nice replacement to the role played by Graham.

 

Jeff Kolsky

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paulman
paulman
January 22, 2015 10:14 am

At LB, here are some Free-Agents that I like and feel they would be good fits
for the Eagles Scheme

ILB
Dan Skuta – 49ers (6-2 250lbs) Is an ILB and not OLB as Jeff posted above
Jerome Whilhoite – 49ers (6-0 240lbs) Another Physical, Smart ILB, Solid vs the Pass
Nate Irving – Bronco’s (6-1 245lbs) Athletic and Versatile in both against the Run/Pass)

OLB
Jerry Hughes – Bills (6-2 255lbs) Athletic, Pass Rusher, replaces Graham
O’Brien Schofield – Seahawks (6-3 260lbs) Athletic, long reach, solid in Pass coverage as well as Pass-Rushing
Jabarr Sheard – Browns (6-3 264lbs) – More of a Pass Rusher
Sam Acho – Cardinals (6-3 260lbs) – Better in Pass Coverage

DE
Pernell McPhee – Ravens (6-3 282lbs) A solid, high energy Player if Thornton
signs elsewhere and is 26 Years Old

DT
Jared Odrick – Dolphins (6-5 304lbs) Another solid Player to give Depth in the middle and would be a nice rotational Player to go along with Logan and is 27 Years of Age

I do believe the Eagles need to get some Young,but experienced Players in their Front 7 for I see B Graham,C Thornton most likely signing bigger Deals elsewhere and leaving in Free-Agency
I also see LB’s T Cole/D Ryans at their end of their productive playing Careers due to age and injuries..

Eagles M Kendricks is small, and needs to have a bigger ILB paired with him
in my opionion

paulman
paulman
January 22, 2015 11:13 am
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

No problem Jeff and a Good List you compiled
Actually I believe the Bills are going back to a “3-4” which is what Rex Ryan Base Defense’s have always played..

DCar
DCar
January 22, 2015 12:50 pm

Jason Worilds will be signed by the Birds. He won’t be crazy expensive either. He had 7 sacks, & didn’t have a monster year. We gave him a contract offer, before the Steelers slapped the Transition tag on him last year. They can’t tag him again, so he will be signed. Jeff, Spikes IS NOT, the best ILB available in FA, David Harris is. Spikes has the measurable’s, but has been virtually invisible until this year. He isn’t good in coverage. He is a hitter, that is decent in run support. Not an ideal hit. We need a leader, that is a good tackler, & good in coverage. Harris has been one of the best ILB in the NFL, a tackling machine, & is good at rushing the QB. Foote is a shot player, & is not a good 1 year deal. No more dumpster diving. Thornton is restricted, & isn’t going anywhere. Curry is a rotational, pass rusher only. He sucks against the run, & isn’t an every-down 5 technique. He should be a 4-3 situational pass rusher. Period.
Good fits for the Birds-
ILB- David Harris, Rey Maualuga (But injury prone), Spikes (If no other option).
OLB- Jason Worilds, Pernell McPhee, Sam Acho, Brian Orakpo (Injury risk).

DCar
DCar
January 22, 2015 1:19 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Jeff, I agree. I believe Ryans, Cole & Smith (Apparent to me, a Weaselman pick), will be off the team. I can see Chip signing Worilds, & either restructuring Cole as rotational, or Schofield as rotational with Worilds. If I was Chip, I wouldn’t waste the $$$ on Maclin. If Demaryius isn’t tagged, he’d be my target, since he is slated to make similar $$$ as Maclin. He is head & heals above Maclin, & is big, fast, & a red zone stud. I love Cobb (Didn’t have a good Conference game), he’s very good. Dez will be tagged. I love Torrey Smith too. Crabtree, would be a nice complimentary WR, but not a #1. I think Cooper needs to be restructured too.

paulman
paulman
January 22, 2015 1:20 pm
Reply to  DCar

D Harris is 31-32 Years old and isn’t happening
R Maualuga hasn’t played a Full Season in like 3 Years
T Spikes is good against the Run, brutal versus the Pass so he’s a no go
L Foote is Retiring and maybe would play 1 final Season in Arizona with
Dick LeBeau coming there as DC to Replace Todd Bowles

J Worilds would be a nice fit, though I am not a real fan of ex-Steelers LB’s who seem to really struggle when they play elsewhere outside of LeBeau’s Schemes… Plus he’s a Va Tech guy…

DCar
DCar
January 22, 2015 1:25 pm
Reply to  paulman

paul, & Ryans is 30-31, coming off his 2nd torn Achilles, & needs to be replaced. What is your point? You need an upgrade, & Harris for 2-3 years, with a top of the half of the draft pick (McKinney, Perryman, Kendricks, Wilson), would be ideal.

paulman
paulman
January 22, 2015 5:52 pm
Reply to  DCar

I agree and have listed ILB’s to do so, in my original Post
Did you not see my first Posting up Top ?
I am not counting on Ryans, in fact I would simply release him and Trent Cole the 1st day so they can make Deals with other Teams
Out with the Old and In with the New
No time to be sentimental at all, it’s time to try to win a Chmpionship
In fact, I cut every Player over 30 Years of Age except for J Peters
and E Mathis..

DCar
DCar
January 22, 2015 12:57 pm

Logan shouldn’t be a NT. He is a situational backup, that makes NO PLAYS. Other than Cox & Thornton, nobody on that line should be guaranteed a job. Other than Cox & occasionally Curry, they get ZERO pressure unless they blitz. Allen didn’t really prove anything either. I’d like to see them sign pot roast Knighton, if they going the rotational route, & play him with Allen, & move Logan as a BU 5 technique DE.

DCar
DCar
January 22, 2015 1:27 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

That’s why, imho, he’s out of here, a failure, in 2 years. Giving him full reigns, will expose his fraudulence further. I hope I’m wrong.

DCar
DCar
January 22, 2015 1:44 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Jeff, I agree, this is his 3rd off-season, & now ALL is on him. I have never been a “Genius” kool aid drinker, like some of the stooges on here, that gave him that moniker. He is a gimmick coach, that coaches with smoke & mirrors, that has won nothing, everywhere he’s been. How many National Championships has he won? How many playoff games has he won?? How many of his former players, has gone on to be stud NFL players??? What has he proven, talent decision wise, other than he illegally hired out of school firms to recruit for him???? He’s a fraud, & until he proves otherwise, he will always be one! But hey, our offense is fast, Fast, FAST!!!!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 22, 2015 2:54 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

I agree…Chip hasn’t earned anything…Reid had to win some playoff games to earn the amount of power he had in the organization. Right now the organization does not look stable…it looks fragmented and disorganized
The honeymoon is over…Chip doesn’t have a lot of leeway…I hope he knows what he is doing…but there are strong indications that he may be just a bit too arrogant

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 23, 2015 1:20 am
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Jeff, the problem is that we are in a tough situation. The offensive line’s best players are getting older…we have to make a big splash now..I say we need to open up the check book and make some strong moves for the defense in Free Agency.
Revis solves a lot of our problems at corner and McCourtney solves some problems for us at safety…we add to the defense…get a QB and we are ready to compete

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 22, 2015 3:01 pm
Reply to  DCar

Vinny Curry has more sacks than Cox has in the last 2 years with less playing time.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 23, 2015 1:29 am
Reply to  gmcliff

The Eagles sack numbers are misleading…I wonder how many sacks we get on third down? Too many of our key defensive players disappear in big games …Connor Barwin, Trent Cole, Cox…all go MIA in big games…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 23, 2015 8:27 am
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Koolbreeze cosistently (and convieniently – for him) keeps leaving out the one gigantic flaw in his “plan”

The new QB? A rookie?

The plan ignores the fact that rookie QBs take at least 2 years to develop. That for about 90% of QBs their peak SB window is from about age 27-32. You bring in a 21 or 22 year old QB and its 2 seasons (at least) before he’s ready.

How does that help the “big splash – win now!” crowd?

This “win now!!” business has been prached by a small group of posters on here since the 2010 mirage.

That somehow there’s this magic “win now” dust that you can just sprinkle. Russel Wilson arrives and suddenly the team wins superbowls.

Newsflash…the Seahawks had to spend 3 years losing, drafting and installing their team-wide steroid program before Wilson came along as icing. And WIlson is an unbelievable outlier. The vast, vast majority of rook QBs fall on their face.

There is no magical “win now” fairy dust. This team still has too much work to do, esp on the D side of the ball. Hopefull thaqt will all be in place when Foles hits his prime from 27-32.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 23, 2015 9:46 am

A rookie status doesn’t matter when the rookie is replacing a QB that was leading the league in turnovers when he went down.

A rookie QB can’t do any worse and at least he would have the excuse of being a rookie.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 23, 2015 9:59 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Turnovers don’t matter if you win – remember Songs? Wilson’s turnovers meant nothing because he won.

Yes a rookie can do much worse – he could lose games.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 23, 2015 10:14 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

He could win games.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 23, 2015 10:16 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

I’ll tell you what……

If that rookie get 7 points each from his defense and special teams and don’t lead the league in turnovers he’ll probably win more games than a QB that leads the league in turnovers under the same circumstances.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 23, 2015 10:45 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

Well that’s how Wilson does it… but it’s okay for the defense to win many of the games for Wilson right? He is still great….

Last week was not the first time that Seattle has won despite Wilson’s inefficiency. In fact, since 2012, Wilson’s first year in the league, the Seahawks have 15 wins in which their quarterback posted a below-average Total QBR, five more than any other team in the NFL.

Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins.

mhenski
mhenski
January 23, 2015 10:51 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

thats nuts irisheagle… thanks for that wilson nugget… all i see is holes in wilsons game

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 23, 2015 10:53 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

Well, Wilson actually won the game at the end.

Leaving the field with the lead is not good enough, the QB must leave the field with the victory and know how to seal the deal against winning teams to be considered a winner.

Foles is not that type of quarterback no matter how you slice it so get prepared for a change.

It’s coming.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 23, 2015 11:02 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

What?

Leaving the field with the lead is not good enough, the QB must leave the field with the victory and know how to seal the deal against winning teams to be considered a winner.

So you’re saying the QB should leave the field with the lead then get back in there a play a little defense?

There might be a change at quarterback for the Eagles, but you will continue to be a fucking halfwit – so get prepared…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 23, 2015 12:01 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Has to catch the onside kicks too.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 23, 2015 10:48 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

A rookie can’t do worse! Says Kool/Songs idiot

2014 rookie 1st round QBs

Bridgewater 6 w 6 L 14 td 12 int
Bortles 3W 10L 11td 17int
Manziel 0w 2L 0td 2 int

2013 rookie 1st round qbs
Manuel 4w 6L 11td 9 int

2012 1st round Qbs
Luck 11 w – 5L 23td 18 int
RGIII 9W 6L 20td 5 ints
Tannehill 7W 9L 12td 13 ints
Weeden 5W 10L 14TD 17Ints

Average season for rookie 1st round Qbs last 3 years.:
5W 13 tds 11 ints

And that includes Luck’s 11 wins…and neither Mariotta or Winston are Andrew Luck

So again….take that rookie and start him.

Just remember to then expect 4 to 6 wins….max.

Hope for a slight improvement in year 2….remembering that of that list…only 3 are still starting (Luck, Tann and Weeden)…I guess RGIII.

AndSo if they make it past year 1….expect slight improvement in year 3.

Hope for competivness in year 3.

Good times!

Wait…..we’ve already been through this process!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dolts!

Stevo
Stevo
January 23, 2015 9:52 am

Welcome back crazy!! It’s a post about the D. Please please please don’t derail an actual great convo with your silly obsession.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 23, 2015 12:14 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Jeff, every outward sign tells me that Chip is making some huge errors. While you may blame williams and fletcher for the poor corner play…I put more of that blame on Bill Davis and the safety play…no help over the top..Fletcher was killed with no help over the top…its no surprise that Jordy Nelson and Dez Bryant is going to beat him deep.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 22, 2015 1:39 pm

Orakpo is not worth spending money on. Hes basically a poorer version of Trent Cole and no where near as durable. He rarely makes plays and he isnt as good an outside pass rusher as people outside of the area view him.

Jerry Hughes in my opinion will be available. Paulman disagrees but they have money to tie up in Dareus and Rex Ryans defenses have always featured the ILB in comparison to the outside LB.

Knighton will be available and I disagree on Logan. Hes a solid player and if he moved to DE with Cox it would provide even better depth with Thornton Curry Allen as reserves.

I would target the 49ers about their ILB situation. Theirs not enough reps for the stash they have at ILB. If Borland forces his way into the lineup then Wilis or Bowman need to be moved.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 22, 2015 1:41 pm

Also if I had to choose between McKinney or Waynes with the 20th pick I am going with McKinney.

DCar
DCar
January 22, 2015 1:49 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

IJ, only if we take care of the secondary in FA. But, I love McKinney & Perryman. Both, IMHO, will be studs. They need to forget about the anomaly dream team year, not fear spending, & go all in for the secondary & LB in FA, & draft depth & long term answers.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 22, 2015 1:56 pm
Reply to  DCar

They will bring in FA Cbs in IMO because there will simply be a glut of them in comparison to the ILB position.

I take McKinney regardless of what we do in FA unless we fill the LB position. I agree on he and Perryman…however IMO you cant have Perryman and Kendricks both manning the middle. They are both the same player and we would get gashed against the run. I agree with Paulman you need a bigger ILB next to Kendricks.

Devin McCourty will be an Eagle. Then they will bring 2nd tier type upgrades at CB to battle out with Carroll Williams and Boykins.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 22, 2015 2:05 pm

IMO its hard to judge ANYTHING now on what happened last year with the level of dysfunction between Kelly and Roseman.

IMO The DJax move makes sense because ODB or Cooks were supposed to be the replacement. I think this is where their relationship started to crack mightily…..when Bills traded up for Sammy Watkins it raised the draft trade stakes. Howie didnt want to spend to move up….and it makes sense on why Chip said he wanted to Jordan Matthews at 22 because he didnt want to get left without a WR replacement.

DCar
DCar
January 22, 2015 2:09 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I agree. Before the draft, Kelly was interviewed fawning all over ODB. Man, how nice would he look in Green?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 22, 2015 2:18 pm
Reply to  DCar

I didnt really put it together until after hearing Roseman more than a few times bring up the Watkins trade and how it change the draft. I think Kelly was like get it done and Roseman said no wait……

Then watching ODB all year go bananas probably caused a super slow burn…

If the targeted 6 was ODB, Moseley, Dix, Cooks Evans and possibly Fuller then they did an excellent job focusing on talent, however they did an absolutely atrocious job in execution and their backup plan was lackluster.

If Kelly was smart enough to single out a guy like Gamble off the bat as a football guy he could trust I dont see the problem now that he has his chance to do so.

If Howie didnt get paranoid and fire him(although I think theres more to the story) then Gamble would be the GM….and I think all of us as fans would have been beyond stoked to have a real football guy in there.

If it ends up being Fritterer….how do you view Kelly after that?

paulman
paulman
January 22, 2015 3:01 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I don’t believe that Evans,ODB & Mosely were on the Radar for the Eagles Top Pick last Year..
Most Had Evans/ODB as Top 12 Picks and Mosely at ILB was not going to come in and start over Ryans/Kendricks in 2015 (barring Injury)

I do believe they really liked and targeted that at least Ha-Ha Dix and or Cooks would be there at # 22 Last Year and when they both come off the Board just before the Eagles, they panicked and Traded back down to Browns to #26 for Additional Pick (#83rd) and more importantly some “time” to reset their Draft Board and go to a a Plan B & C for the rest of the Draft

I don’t think they Draft MSII unless they had the Deal with Texans to get back up into the early 2nd Round to at least get Jordan Matthews..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 22, 2015 3:27 pm
Reply to  paulman

I disagree with your Paulman. I believe they had those players in the 6 and it makes sense judging by what was left at their pick at 22 and them trading back.

The Bills overpaid to get Sammy Watkins raising all the trade parameters. Howie did not want to pay that. They would have had to give up their Ist and 2nd to move up and they didnt want to do that.

In hindsight the Cardinals got 2 players for the price of 1 for trading with the Saints.

It goes both ways however I think cold feet by Howie really cost Chip and the team this year. Any of the 6 IMO that they had targeted would have been immediate impacts offensively/defensively.

paulman
paulman
January 22, 2015 5:15 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I don’t think anyone had Mike Evans or ODB beyond 15th

Cooks/Dix/Mosely were all that the #18-#22nd Range and it was no Secret to anyone in the NFL that the Ravens would jump all over Mosely as the perfect replacement for Ray Lewis so Mosely wasn’t getting past the Ravens at #17 so no way the Eagles should be thinking he’s falling to #22

Dix & Cooks were the Players that they were counting on to be there at #22 and they stood pat and got burned

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 22, 2015 5:18 pm
Reply to  paulman

Youre missing my point Paulman. I think they were poised to move up. But when the stakes got high Howie got cold feet. I dont think they were going to stand pat at all on 22.

Remember they were armed with an additional 4th possibility from this years draft and had all their picks for 2016.

paulman
paulman
January 22, 2015 5:44 pm
Reply to  paulman

I believe you are missing my Point
That may have been the original Gameplan going but once the Watkins Deal happened early in the Draft, then it blew the Eagles Chances of Moving up out of the Water, remember the Watkins Deal occurred at the #4 Selection and the Eagles were Selecting some 3 to 4 Hours later at #22 so they had plenty of time to go to Plan B,C or D
My Premises is that they thought for sure that either Dix or Cooks would be there at #22 and they would have been happy with either Player then when both were Taken at #20 and #21, just before the Eagles at #22 then the shit hit the Fan…
This is my Story how the 1st Round of the Draft Went Down

Also do not, the Eagles went into the 2015 Draft with only 6 Picks with no 6th Rounder on Board and were not in Position to package to move up…

paulman
paulman
January 22, 2015 5:46 pm
Reply to  paulman

should be “went into 2014 Draft with only 6 Selections

paulman
paulman
January 22, 2015 4:50 pm

Not much mention about the DT Position this Off-Season which this Draft has some very good Prospects and is Deep and I think still a need for the Eagles Defense moving forward to add Depth with Bennie Logan

Here’s a few Prospects and their likely Draft Rankings

1) Danny Shelton (Washington 6-2 340lbs) Mid 1st Rd (15th/25th)
2) Eddie Goldman (Fla State 6-3 320lbs) Middle to Late 1st Rd (20th-32nd)
3) Malcolm Brown (Texas 6-4 340lbs) Middle to Late 1st Rd (20th-32nd)
4) Jordan Phillps (Oklahoma 6-6 340lbs) Late 1st – Early 2nd
5) Xavier Cooper (Wash St 6-4 300lbs) 2nd Rounder
**6) Carl Davis (Iowa 6-5 320lbs) Late 2nd/3rd Rounder
7) Ellis McCarthy (UCLA 6-4 330lbs) 3rd/4th Rounder
8) Joey Mbu (Houston 6-3 315lbs) 3rd/4th Rounder
**9) Xavier Williams (Northern Iowa 6-2 325lbs Late 3rd/4th Rounder
10) Letterius Walton (Central Michigan 6-5 320lbs) Late 6th/7th Rounder)

I really like Carl Davis and Xavier Williams and think these Players have bright Futures in the NFL

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 22, 2015 6:12 pm
Reply to  paulman

I also think DT is a need….but there are too many other holes.

You can only reaaly expect 2 FA defensive additions (of impact)

What do eagles NEED?

2 new CBs. 1 new safety. 1 new RG. At least 1 new OLB (Cole/Graham) and most likely 2.

You also have to think about Peter’s replacement (or if that’s Johnson, then Johnson’s replacement) though I think that’s just a luxury at this point. So is a high pick on a DT isn’t it? Just a luxury?

My order, and I won’t name names because I, nor anyone, have any idea if any college player will make it in the NFL.
1 – CB
2 – OG
3 – OLB
4 – QB or safery
5 – Safety or QB
After that – complete crapshoot.

Issues:

I don’t really care what order they go in as long as 1,2,3 finish with a CB, and 2 linemen (one OL, one DL)

Is there really a point on using the 4th or 5th pick on a QB? Odds of ever being productive about 7%…so that pick might be better suited to be used on a SS – odds much higher he’d contribute from that draft position.

Stevo
Stevo
January 22, 2015 5:28 pm

This is the most intelligent.post and comments ive seen in forever. Notice…. it’s weeded out the crazies!!!

Love the list… I truly believe the eagles front 7 are moving in the right direction. Strong…. athletic… hungry. Love it!!

Ive been harping on remaking the secondary but for sure we need to land a starting LB somewhere!!

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 10:26 am
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Is Trent Coke going to take a Cut from
His $11 Million due in 2015 to let’s say
To $3-$4 Million as a Rotational Player?
It’s time to cut the chord with him..
It’s how it works in the NFL
Herremans and Cary Williams & James Casey
Too, no sense in restructuring for it sends a worse message to Lockerroom
Then simply flat out releasing and moving on
For both Team & the Players involved..

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 22, 2015 6:26 pm

****NEWS****

Boston College OC/QBs coach Ryan Day is expected to join the Eagles as QBs coach, league source said. Replaces Bill Musgrave.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 22, 2015 6:29 pm

******NEWS*****

Al Sharpton is on a channel called MSNBC discussing whether Tom Brady deflated a football. lol

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 22, 2015 6:33 pm

*****JOKE****

I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I check my balls daily and I rarely sees anything irregular.

kool breeze
kool breeze
January 22, 2015 7:07 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

I would love to check Marcus Mariota’s balls, I bet you they are perfect!

jakedog
jakedog
January 22, 2015 8:33 pm

I bet you would. Tom Brady would probably love to as well

Faggots

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 23, 2015 9:45 am

Reports that the Brewers are trying to acquire Crapelbon from the Phils. Only thing is that they are on his no trade list and not exactly a team that is a contender.

mhenski
mhenski
January 23, 2015 10:09 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

yep just read the same, imo they are gonna trade him for a pile of lint and shouldnt and they should wait until the deadline… but the brewers will do that for us – meaning get him now that flip him for more at the deadline

ESPN’s Jayson Stark reports that the “last remaining obstacle” to a trade sending Jonathan Papelbon to the Brewers is deciding how much money the Phillies would pick up should the reliever’s 2016 option vest.
FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal indicated earlier Friday that a deal wasn’t close, but based on Stark’s report it appears it could be coming together quickly. Papelbon would need to waive his no-trade clause in order to be shipped to Milwaukee, and it looks like he might have already done so with Stark saying the option money is the final obstacle. Papelbon is owed $13 million in 2015 and has a $13 million vesting option for 2016 should he finish 48 games.
Related: Brewers
Source: Jayson Stark on Twitter
Jan 23 – 9:55 AM

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 23, 2015 11:49 am
Reply to  mhenski

Definitely addition by subtraction. Guy has been damn effective but his crummy attitude has been a locker room cancer…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 23, 2015 11:43 am

***NFL News***

Terrence Cody has been released by the Baltimore Ravens. Contract terminated.

My Thoughts: 26 years old, 6’4 345 pounds. Enough said

Eagles sign him

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 12:22 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

No Surpise here, Cody had lost Playing time and was Inactive for many Games for the Ravens this year and just can’t keep seem to keep his weight and conditioning under Control and was a huge disappointment for the Ravens overall… Stay Away for most have questioned his Work Ethic and Desire

Cody played in 1 Game this Season with Zero Tackles after Playing in 12 Games last Season with only 15 Tackles in 2013

The Ravens moved on from Cody by Drafting Brandon Williams and Timmy Jernnigan the last 2 Drafts and don’t need him any longer…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 23, 2015 12:36 pm
Reply to  paulman

We don’t need much just a space eater. Put him and Cox next to one another it would create matchup problems for the offensive lines we face

Put him on the Chip Kelly conditioning program and watch this kid go. He has talent

Is only 26 years old, 6’4 345. He’s a beast of a young man. Just needs a change of scenery.

Sign him

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 23, 2015 12:36 pm
Reply to  paulman

And he’s a scheme fit for us

mhenski
mhenski
January 23, 2015 1:03 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

lmfao Jon you have more of a shot getting signed by the eagles. Cody will be in a wheel chair by the time he is 30. a huge bust for the ravens and a guy who has had two hip surgerys and once weighed 400 pounds.

plus he was released because he is being investigated for animal cruelty and charges look likely.

there is a lot more to playing def tackle than just being a big guy homie

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 2:39 pm
Reply to  mhenski

JH has always liked Cody… He’s been nothing but a Bust as a Football Player and now with Animal Cruelty Charges, there is no way in hell
the Eagles will have any interest… He’s Toast

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 23, 2015 3:49 pm
Reply to  paulman

Wrong guy paul, never have I made mention of Cody on here.

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 3:57 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

You have mentioned him before JH…
You love those Alabama & Ravens Players… The Guy was a major under-achiever for anyone who follows Football and Players..
He’s a bum, just like your Bynum was and still is and like I said he would be 2-3 Years ago…. Some things never change

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 24, 2015 1:05 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

You’re a liar, I never mentioned Cody, Wrongman Oldman Fraudman

Go take your memory medicine, you have the wrong guy

I mentioned other DTs never Cody

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 23, 2015 3:48 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Correct, that’s why I said hes also a scheme fit.

koolbreezes butthole
koolbreezes butthole
January 23, 2015 12:31 pm

Mike Vick if you are reading this, please come back to us as I miss you greatly.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 23, 2015 1:01 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

I heard about him on the radio, former duck that transferred after Mariotta came on board right?
All they said was a project, very unrefined… But ooh I think he is a runner and that has proven to be sooooo important to chip

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 3:08 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Mariota grew up and played Football in Hawaii which is not a hot-spot for College Football Talent as Athletes from there really don’t recruited heavily by big Programs in the Homeland.. They just don’t
I think Mariota has Peaked Physically and is probably out of the NFL by 2018

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 23, 2015 7:42 pm
Reply to  paulman

When did you say Burfict would be out of the NFL?

What about Heath Shuler, How long did you think he would last?

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 8:55 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Both short termers in the NFL

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 24, 2015 1:12 am
Reply to  paulman

Always Wrongman, more proof^

Everyday all day. You said Burfict would be out of the league yada yada, said 2 years ago that Demeco Ryans needed to be traded or outright released because hes old, also said Barwin was the team leader not Ryans…

The list goes on. You’re always Wrong Wrong Wrongman

I show proof not just bs made up words and comments like you

Keep proving me right Fraudman

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2015 10:07 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Burfict played in 5 Games this Season
And only 3 Full Games due to Concussion,
neck and then Knee Injuries and was a
Non-factor in 2014 for the Bengals..
Missed tons of Practice and Coach’s were
Not happy about his lack of conditioning
If He has another down year in 2015,
He’s probably a goner…

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 25, 2015 12:35 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

LOL…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 24, 2015 11:01 am
Reply to  paulman

Paulman….are you kidding with Hawaii isn’t a football hotbed? It’s like a damn lineman factory for the entire west coast.

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2015 11:23 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Most know that Polynesian athletes mature early
And are naturally strong… Most Skills position
Players lack the athleticism and Height to make it at big time Colleges or the NFL, but Lineman is a different story
Skills Positions is what I am talking about since that
What Mariotta is
Are u still guaranteeing Mariota goes Top 5-10?

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 2:47 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Mariota is dropping in the NFL Prospect Rankings fast…
He may fall until the Late 1st Round or early 2nd Round..
NFL Teams have just gotten burned enough with these “Spread-Read-Option”
QB’s from College Programs that the QB never takes a Snap from Center
Go from Blaine Gabbert, Chase Daniels, Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Johnny Football, RG3, Jake Locker, that Teams are no longer going to waste early PIcks on these Type of QB’s from this Background…
It is what it is..

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 23, 2015 3:04 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul, I googled mock draft and looked at about 11, all had him going top 6, many number 1

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 3:13 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

That’s this week which many of those Rankings are a week/10 days old
Check by mid-week next week and you’ll see what I am talking about
Remember, I always look forward and to the future of NFL News and Reports and not what’s already been out there or conventional news…

mhenski
mhenski
January 23, 2015 3:19 pm
Reply to  paulman

i seen a bunch had him going 6. last week and weeks prior it was either 1 or 2 now its 6.

if he is available at 6 the jets are not going to take him, 0% chance. jets have too many holes on that team and a defensive coach, he isnt going qb… geno to decker connection was actually pretty damn nice when decker was healthy… they arent taking a qb

however bears will draft a qb at some point as they have nobody behind that scrub cutler so they would probably take mariota so if eagles were gonna make a trade and not give what it takes to get to 1 or 2 it would be a trade with the jets imo . the asking price would probably are #1 this year, #1 next year and our #3 next year. this wouldnt be too much to give up imo especially if we can make a corresponding move to get a #3 from someone else for next year

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 4:06 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Bears with John Fox as HC and new DC Vic Fangio will go DE,OLB,Secondary.. John Fox may not like Cutler very much, but he hates Young QB’s even more,, I know this for following John Fox for 15 Years…. Bears will go Defense with almost every Draft Pick

Rams are a Possibility and still have no OC Hired?
I think Mariota drops into the Teens and maybe beyond ..

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 4:00 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Only 6-1 225lbs, with a Weak Arm… Transferred to NE Lousiana Tech with average Career Stats, though he’s Athletic, has strong Leadership,Smart and a tough competitor, Bennett simply does not have an NFL Arm which you can say about every College Recruit that Chip Kelly is associated with

mhenski
mhenski
January 23, 2015 3:23 pm

LMFAO

Citing nearly 20 Browns sources, ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler and Pat McManamon report Johnny Manziel exhibited a “year-long pattern” of lacking commitment and preparation to football and a “continued commitment to nightlife” during his rookie year.
One player called Manziel a “100 percent joke.” Team security reportedly found Manziel “drunk off his a–” the morning before the Browns’ season finale. He was fined for missing a treatment for his injured hamstring and spent the Week 17 loss to Baltimore in Cleveland’s locker room. During his first NFL start, “Several sources said Manziel either didn’t know the plays in the huddle or didn’t call them correctly.” Sources also told Fowler and McManamon that since-departed OC Kyle Shanahan preferred Jimmy Garoppolo and Tom Savage to Manziel as a 2014 draft prospect. Fowler and McManamon claim Manziel still has some “support in the (Browns’) building,” though it’s mostly “on the business side.”

HE HAS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 23, 2015 4:05 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Oh that’s beautiful about Manziel… Love it.
Gruden is an ESPN employee, all these reports are just teasers to get people to watch the draft etc… It is network tv bro..the nfl ESPN etc has turned the combine into a show, draft day into a three day show… It is brilliant.
My bold prediction is that if Mariotta is on the board when the birds pick… He stays on the board

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 23, 2015 3:52 pm

Jon Gruden is quoted as saying today at the probowl… “Chip kelly is going to be looking for QBs. We all do. Im sure that Marcus Mariota is on his speed dial.”

Let the Marcus Mariota to Eagles speculations continue…

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 4:04 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Jon Gruden is simply an TV Analyst now and no longer has a Pulse on what Teams are up to… Every Offensive Coach looks at QB’s when going to All-Star Games or Combine, it’s what they do… As if this is any Rocket Science….. I guess with Gruden saying this, it somehow Validates Chips interest in a QB….. Wow, how Blind are some of the folks on here..Keep following the Sheep….

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 23, 2015 4:07 pm
Reply to  paulman

I bet his own brother has his eyes on QBs as well… They all do for crying out loud…made for tv drama

mhenski
mhenski
January 23, 2015 4:09 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I believe Chip is very good friends with gruden for what its worth

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 23, 2015 4:16 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Ridiculous… Simply ridiculous..
Have any of you heard Gruden bloviate on MNF…

paulman
paulman
January 23, 2015 4:21 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Chip is Best Friends with only Single Guys…

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2015 7:41 pm

Players who shined in Senior Bowl

CB Steve Nelson (Oregon St)
CB Quentin Rolle (Miami of Ohio)
CB L Gunter (Miami)
Safety Geathers (UCF)
Safety Tartt (Samford)
Safety Prewitt (Miss)
DT Carl Davis (Iowa)
DE L Lewis (Kentucky)

Some Good Looking RB’s
Abdullah, Cobb, Johnson and Varga from Yale

All QB’s looked average at Best and are NFL Backup
Quality at best, I saw not one QB Today who makes an impact
To any NFL Team within 2 Years
Bennett is not physically mature enough
Grayson had poor mechanics, overthrew 2-3
Wife open receivers
Blake Sims move well, but not an NFL arm
B Petty & Cardin & Mannion were all slow to read Defenses
And were too indecisive with the Ball

This is not the Year to Select a QB if your looking for a Starter Type in 1-2 Years time.. Strictly Back-Up Material

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2015 7:51 pm
Reply to  paulman

That’s Quentin Rollins

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2015 7:56 pm

Eagles Should select RB’s Cobb & Abdullah
And Trade McCoy/Sproles and get some Draft Picks back
Abdullah the next Sproles but younger, faster and healthier
Cobb and Johnson are north & south backs
Screw this dancing around bull rap that L McCoy

Out with the Old & In with the New

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 25, 2015 8:28 am
Reply to  paulman

Mccoy is 26, out with the old huh paul???

If it was up to you everyone on the team would be 20 years old or younger and it just doesnt work like that. Maybe in the beginning but not when you’re trying to build a championship team. You need core players, veterans, not all inexperienced rookies.

You gotta get your head off this “little kid” movement. If you’re 25 26 thats fine. 29 30 thats fine. Everyone doesnt have to be 18.

Take Seattle for instance, avg age is probably around 25 on that team. Not many guys below that age. You need veterans, you need experience and you need elite guys in certain positions. (Marshawn Lynch 29, Lesean Mccoy 26, etc). Elite talent.

And about Lesean going east to west, that’s why hes so durable, because he doesn’t take the big hit and he knows when to check himself out and sub someone else in

They’re not trading Mccoy, they’re bringing him back on a restructured deal. Hes an Eagle for life.

PA native

This is home

Sproles on the other hand can be replaced with a younger cheaper option.

But they wont for now, they love Sproles too. He signed a 2 yr deal, they’ll keep him 1 more year…

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 10:47 am

It’s the Carries & Cost JH
McCoy though his age is in his prime
He has close to 2,000 Touches (Carries & Receptions)
His Yard Ier Carry Average dropped by more than 1 Full Yard last Season which is significant…
At $11 Million, then $9 Million then $8 Million in 2017
That’s $30 Million for the next 3 Years
Eagles can get similar production
at 1/5th the Cost and use the Savings to rebuild the Defense

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 25, 2015 12:44 pm
Reply to  paulman

That’s why they’re going to be restructuring his deal and will be announced in the next few months..

You saying we can get similar production from a rookie RB is like saying the Vikings will be better off production wise without Adrian Peterson which would be asinine.

And btw, AP is 28 29 years old. Marshawn Lynch is 29. Lesean is 26

Check how many carries AP and Lynch have in comparison to Lesean Mccoy

You’re talking as if Mccoy isnt an elite RB that can be easily replaced

Now that I think about it, you were all for the Eagles getting rid of Desean, “I say either trade Desean or flat release him, we can draft his replacement” and “desean is a one trick pony” blah blah blah…

Remember this paul? I do and so should you for you said it. (How did that work out?)

So you have a track record of wanting to get rid of elite players waaay too early.

Its hard to replace one of a kind type players

Lesean has Hall Of Fame written all over him

He fits this offense like a glove

They will NOT get rid of Lesean Mccoy, paul

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 25, 2015 4:03 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Jon, paulman had Foles on the bench at half time in the first game of the year..the guy is a chronic flip-flopper. Getting rid of your best offensive player for what…why…it is ridiculous

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 25, 2015 5:30 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

I know fraudman is full of crap and a flip flopper Koolbreeze, hes been doing it for years, when your up hes with you but when your down expect a kick to the face

Bandwagon fan, then when they lose “I told you they’re average ” or “they’re just not as good as the rest of the league”… you want to be right that bad? What a fake flip flopping fraudfan

I just like to call him out on it from time to time, especially when he falsely accuses me of saying certain things that I didn’t

And yea weaken a position of strength (RB position) in an effort to strengthen the defense, yea that reeally makes sense

Thats a no no in the nfl world. You’re supposed to work around contracts if at all possible. Restructuring is going to be what theyll do. Mccoy will be back

They will fix the corner position, both spots and the 1 safety spot, SS and add a LB or two inside and out

But you dont get rid of a HOF RB because hes 26 and you want a 18 or 20 year old. What sense would that make?

Paul loves little kids so much..

What NFL teams wins with 20 year olds paul?

Get outta lala land

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 1:06 pm

McCoy ranked 22nd in the NFL with his average Yards per Carry.,
Chips System doesn’t rely on a 1 RB
And is best utilized by RB by Committed
As far as cutting the chord with D-Jax,
Last year, the mistake was not replacing his deep
Threat spied and Kelly F’d up by Selecting
WAr J Huff in the 3rd Rd instead of Selecting
A M Bryant, J Brown Jr or Dontae Moncrief
I said this after the the Draft and say it still
A year later.. That’s all on Kelly…
RB’s are a dime a dozen and no,
McCoy is not elite anymore in my book
And on the downside of his Carrer
Probably has 1 more good season in his body

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 1:07 pm

Eagles are a 8-9 Win Team in 2015

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 1:11 pm
Reply to  paulman

You say that every year?

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 1:26 pm

And I am about right every year too for the Eagles from top to bottom
Are just above average and no more than
The 6-8th Rated Team in NFC and about 12-14th
In the NFL… Slightly above Average is what they are

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 2:10 pm
Reply to  paulman

I guess you mean that except for the 10 times since 2000 that they’ve won 10 or more games?? right thats what you mean? dickhead!
Your negative nitwit shit runs thin

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 3:17 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Was GCObb.com here in 2000)
I think I camp on Board the last 5-6 Years

Are the Eagles even a .500 Team since 2009,
Over the last 5-6 Years
What happened 10-15 Years absolutely nothing
Different Players, Coach’s and Game than today

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 3:24 pm

The NFC sucked as an Conference the early 2000’s
Who were Eagles top Competition?
TB Bucs, Panthers, Bears..(Brad Johnson, Jake Delhomne and Rex Grossman) Good Grief the NFC was weak as hell and still
The Eagles made 1 SB and were manhandled
In a SB versus the Oats that was over by the 4th Quarter and if not 2
Late garbage Time scores by the Eagles late was one of the most boring SB of modern times.. A Joke..

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 4:26 pm
Reply to  paulman

Let’s simplify and keep it current the last two years they won ten….you predict 8— negative nitwit

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 5:53 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Eagles Last 5 Seasons — 80 Games Played
42 Wins – 38 Losses — 2 Playoff Appearances with 3 Seasons missing the Post-Season… and Zero Playoff Wins..

How can any Fan claim this Franchise is anything else more than slightly above average ???
8-9 Wins a Season, maybe a few fortunate bounces and breaks along the way, then maybe 10 Wins is possible, but Eagles still don’t pose any legitimate Post-Season Threat to beat any of the Elite Teams in the NFC or AFC…

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 5:58 pm
Reply to  paulman

Oh wait I thought you didn’t care about ancient history under a different coach/era? Now you do care! . .?? Make up your mind… Under Kelly 10 wins… Make up your mind Fraudman

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 6:06 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Kelly’s & Eagles Most Important Stretch of Games (Dec of 2014 – and Finish a Lame 1-3) to choke a 9-3 Start to what should have been a Shoe-In for the Post-Season.. That Chip Kelly ?

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 6:09 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul you keep changing the narrative. First you said they always win 8-9 games, I disprove it, then you say it’s ancient history, who cares about the last 10-15 years, I say ok let’s talk about the last two where they won ten now you change the narrative again… I guess you wear the moniker Fraudman with pride…

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 6:19 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I Predict the 2015 Seasaon will see 9 Wins or Less for the Eagles

I see the Bills,Dolphins, Pats, Cardinals,Saints and Panthers all as better Teams than the Eagles Ass – The NFC East will be improved and they most likely split 3-3 or maybe 4-2

Eagles Defense over the last 5 Season is the Absolute Basement in NFL, Passing Yards, 1st Downs, TD’s, Big Plays over 25 Yards… You name it, they Suck on this Side of the Ball and by the Way, the NFL is now a Passing League so if you can’t even Defend the Pass a little bit, your Screwed
The other 3 NFC East Teams have outstanding WR’s Corps Eagles probably have 3 New Starters in their Secondary that will take 6-8-10 Weeks to get comfortable and jell together…
Expect a very shaky Secondary until 2016

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 6:24 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Fraud you are a joke

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 7:04 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Nope HAC, just telling it like it is.. Which is all I do..
Someone has to keep it real …

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 7:19 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

So were you keeping it real when you said it’s always 8-9 wins? I disprove it … Then you say no I don’t meant the last 14 years, with another coach… I promptly point out this coach has won ten per year… Keep it real lying fraudman

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 7:28 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

So they over-achieved in Kelly’s first Season, got the most out of Andy Reid’s leftovers.. Still no Playoff Win since what 2007/2008?
and was in a very weak NFC East in 2013….
Every Team in the NFC East is improved for 2015
The Eagles still have no GM, and are now interviewing newbie
Chris Polian since no one else wants the job..
Seahawks Fitterer said no thanks, Ballard said no thanks..
It’s pretty bad state of Internal affairs when up and coming NFL Execs don’t even want to Interview..
Kelly will be gone after the 2016 Season…

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 7:31 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Over achieved? No they won what they won… Why do you now go back to 07-08 when in a previous post you called it irrelevant ancient history? Fraudman

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 7:43 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Bottom line to me HAC,
Whether Eagles Win 7-8-9 or even 10 Games,
They are no threat to the Top Teams in the NFC for 2015 as of today.. In fact they have slipped a couple of Spots..

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 7:48 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

You always change the narrative when someone calls bullshit.. You are nothing Fraudman…

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 8:02 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

The Eagles with Chip Kelly are nothing…

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 8:07 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Fraud you do know that while only on the league two years chip has started a significant coaching tree? Two qb coaches move on to OC jobs… That’s not nothing.. If you think the nfl people of importance don’t acknowledge his contribution then you are more stupid then you pretend to be on here

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 4:24 pm

****NFL News****
Idiot Browns WR Josh Gordon fails another Drug Test
And likely faces a Full 1 Year Suspension
The only real fools are the ones on here who
Wanted the Eagles to Trade High Picks
To get this Bum…
Another Talented Played whose NFL Career
Is likely over.. It’s not Culture over Talent
It’s somewhat being intelligent and being available
To Play..

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 4:56 pm

As for josh brown… Culture vs talent… There isn’t a question….not a fucking question

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 5:42 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I remember a bunch on here wanted the Eagles to Trade Multiple Picks to the Browns for WR Josh Gordon .. with GMCliff being one of his biggest Supporters.. Some People just never learn….
Jaguars WR Justin Blackmon is another prime example…
Stay away from Stupid People and Players…

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 27, 2015 12:16 pm
Reply to  paulman

Greetings from San Diego Brothers…..Here we go huh Paul???

Paul, I was absolutely one of Josh Gordons supporters, and still am, no doubt. But, I NEVER suggested offering – MULTIPLE – picks to the Browns for him.

I suggested, a CONDITIONAL 1st Round Pick, in a contract, that could become a 4th, that would have had language in it that protected the Eagles, in case he wasn’t able to keep his end up, that would have left the Eagles with the ability to wash there hands on him, and no further obligation.

You go after the best talent possible, and negotiate. The rest is up to them.

I am sorry to hear that Josh Gordon’s issues couldn’t be overcome by him, but I still feel he is a extremely talented WR….even high, he’s 20 times better than Riley Cooper…..I am not ashamed, or embarrassed that I suggested it.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 27, 2015 12:26 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff,
checkout the comments from drew Breeze re: talent etc.
He said ‘its the NFL everyone has talent. You need guys that will work hard, do the right things”

as for the language in your trade– you always seem to forget that it takes two to tango…

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 27, 2015 7:39 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I never forget it takes two to tango, but I also know that if your not aggressive, and don’t try you’ll always have a mediocre team……and have no one to blame but yourself for not creating opportunities

The actual language in the contract that I was referring to was the use clauses such as: – If you’re suspended for conduct, or fail a random drug test, your deal is immediately voided, and that conditional #1, will become a 4th.

paulman
paulman
January 27, 2015 2:17 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Enjoy San Diego GMCliff and Say Hi to “Old Navy” if you bump into him..
I can’t support any Player who can’t stay Clean and be an Active Team Player and actually Contribute.. I don’t care how Talented a Player is….Josh Gordon is on Suicidal Path and needs to get himself healthy and of clean mind before ever worrying about Playing Football again.. I wish the Kid well, but As a GM or a Coach, I want nothing to do with the Guy…

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 27, 2015 4:39 pm
Reply to  paulman

It.s gorgeous out here Paul. Visiting my sister in law who I’ve never met before.

Big Navy is out here too?

Under the circumstances Paul, I have to agree with Josh Gordon, and pray he can clean himself up, and come back in 2 years.

But, I wouldn’t be afraid to take a look because the contract he would earn from me would only benefit the Eagles.

deserteagle
deserteagle
January 25, 2015 7:22 pm

Chimp alert!!! The Boone zoo shit clinger is really slinging it this Sunday…firstly chimp…missed you of late…how can we at all trust with any credibility ,as to the EAGLES stature,until we visualize a new sheriff in town ..Chip ..draft and mold this franchise in his imagery..what you really mean chimp..is you don’t have faith in chip..but before we see 2015 roster ,how and why would you sling shit?. Makes no sense…I have been watching chip from afar ,and he’s wearing a ton of hats ,at the moment …I am in the camp ,that I pray as an Eagle fan ,he can write a big enough check …bigger than his ego….there is a bluster about him ,I do admire .quantitatively ,with and with out Desean ,he s ranked high in the top 5 in consecutive years…with a half a season he had two quarter backs and amassed a 9-3 record ..numbers do not lie…I truly feel Foles injury diminished this teams chances ,as sanchez was counted on to ride to the finish line ,assuredly ,he choked …as did Bill Davis …those red flags haven’t been addressed adequately in my opinion..I’m aware personnel matters ,and I’m assuming as all of us ,we are spending serious money on a top tier corner and safety …we desperately need a ferocity on defense that shrunk to nothing when it mattered most in December …I do agree we need be younger and tougher …name me one guy that’s feared on either side of the ball..you can’t ,because we’ve been preached culture matters …that is a portion of chip ,I most disagree upon…skill and attitude are what drives sometimes an athlete from the hood…that assassin mentality …does it make him harmonious with your preaching …no…but he balls like an animal ..that is what I hope chip surrounds himself with …guys who are self driven ,self disciplined ,unlike some knuckleheads (Gordon …comes to mind) …replace BDawk…get me a bad ass safety who is my center fielder …who hurts people …give me a corner who puts his hands all over the dezz Bryant’s at the line of scrimmage ,and who is stride for stride with him ,and contests at a height with him …that’s what I hope chip sees…but….I’m aware he’s had an adversion to that side of the ball…now that he gets to bake the cake ,I feel he’s intelligent to understand …I’m hoping he gets a GM who isn’t just there to grab his morning joe…dissension of opinions creates an atmosphere of collaboration…again ..I just hope his check doesn’t bounce …he’ll philly would put him on his own float down broad street …he’s probably dreaming of what to wear …lmao…

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 7:33 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Your Chimp is Interviewing Newbie Exec Chris Polian for the 2nd time meaning he’s probably hired on Tuesday
Seahawks Exec Fitterer has said no thnx, like Chris Ballard..
Hell, Chimp can’t even get Interviews from up and coming NFL Execs

Chris Polian is Bill Polians son, great family genes but has done very little on his own…

deserteagle
deserteagle
January 25, 2015 7:38 pm

Chimp …nobody Over achieves …they’re paid to win …that’s just bullshit you’re slinging ,and I ain’t buying ….I do agree as I’ve stated there power struggle yielded by there owner a he goes or I go stalemate..he flip flopped ..Kelly seized that barn door and kicked it in..by accident ,it may shape the franchise for the next decade …but it definitely threw the keys and the transmission to one individual…a coach that hasn’t earned it …that bluster is admirable by my standards …now it’s all on him…to say he’s going to be gone ,before he’s crafted this team in his own image ,is not only chimp 101 ” it’s fool hearty …

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2015 7:42 pm

Fraudman is having a few pops on a Sunday evening! It’s ok fraud…. You flip flop based on scotch intake… It’s ok

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 7:57 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

No alcohol at all for me this weekend, still fighting the “Flu”
When I do, it’s strictly Beer, no Hard Liquor for me in Years…

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2015 8:01 pm

Chris Polian couldn’t even handle “Cap Issues” while in Indy and his Dad (Bill)
Had to demote him..
This is why when Bill Polian Retired, the Colts went in another direction and hired Ryan Grigson from the Eagles thus ending Chris Polian’s Career with the Colts… One of Owners Jim Irsay better moves I might add…

deserteagle
deserteagle
January 25, 2015 11:34 pm

This is a new formula paul man ….chip …opens the door in the morning and sweeps the nova care floors ..he does it all…It’s unprecedented …especially with no merit…The owner backed into a hot poker ,as howie was in tall grass …he eventually will leak his way out the door ,as that’s inevitable…so chip …molds the team in his image …he’s on Mount Rushmore in year 3 ,never having won a playoff game …what a great leap of faith by Jeffrey …he either got it right or he shit all over his gold standard …The stakes are all in …on the table …it’s a ballsy bet ..I think it is borderline reckless….I stated so at the time ..he negotiated from a position of demarcation…he allowed a line to be drawn in the nova cares sand…and he flipped like a dolphin in marine land…now he backed his way into this stature…the rest of the league has blocked his attempts to interview there highly sought of executives,by a technicality ..that he already stupidly ,publicly announced chip has final say …this emasculated any future GM ,and in essence has the boss answer to his subservient ,the coach..this is the end game of Jeffrey’s New Year’s Eve ..faux pas….I stated that …the names being thrown about like fitterer was a pipe dream …now if the damage has been done …you don’t hire frank sinatra junior to sing at the garden …the rest of the league ,wasn’t exactly cordial towards Jeffrey ,with this ruling…that any executive ,since they wouldn’t have final say over personnel or fiduciary responsibilities …then it’s not ,an upward hiring …nice work by Jeffrey …he’s got all his chips on the table…he’s all in on this new NFL ….franchise ..with Chip Kelly ….he’s either enshrined in this town ,or considered a better car salesman than Braman …

paulman
paulman
January 26, 2015 12:38 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Enjoy the Post above desert
The imagery, the play of words… Great Stuff…

deserteagle
deserteagle
January 25, 2015 11:50 pm

Rick mueller will be a logical ,in house panacea …it’s an embarrassment …he was interviewed by the jets for a head coaching job …but he lost out to Todd Bowles…but that’s good company …he’s already been named director of personnel …if you had two 10 win seasons ,perhaps you back him in ,as opposed to settling for a guy who’s name sounds sexy …but …polians son …is like saying I’ll hire Lombards son to coach the team..silly …

mhenski
mhenski
January 26, 2015 11:26 am

ouch

Saints signed CB Delvin Breaux.
A shutdown corner in the CFL, Breaux received strong interest from NFL teams this offseason. He lands in a good spot with the Saints, who had some of the worst cornerback play in the league last year. At 6-foot-1, 195, Breaux has prototype size for Rob Ryan’s Press Man concepts. With Keenan Lewis and Terrence Frederick currently atop the Saints’ depth chart, Breaux will have a chance for immediate playing time. Jan 24 – 2:39 PM

WHY DO I GET THE FEELING THIS SCRUB CARY WILLIAMS IS COMING BACK? MAYBE THE SCRUB FLETCHER TOO? WTF

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 26, 2015 1:31 pm
Reply to  mhenski

CFL corners nerver play press coverage because every WR is in motion before every snap.

So to think a guy that hasn’t played “press” in several years to do that might be asking a bit.

mhenski
mhenski
January 27, 2015 3:05 pm

Winter storm Juno officially had its name changed today to winter storm nerlins Noel