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Eagles Release Veteran Guard Todd Herremans

todd_herremans3The Eagles are releasing veteran guard Todd Herremans today according to multiple reports.  It’s not much of a surprise since he’s getting up there in the years and he missed eight games last year with a torn bicep muscle.  When he did play in 2014 season, he didn’t play particularly well.

I saw offensive line coach Jeff Stoutland at the NFL Combine and he spent every moment on the field with the offensive linemen who were working out at this year’s NFL Combine.   He probably went to Indianapolis with the knowledge he was looking for a replacement for Herremans.  It seems certain now that the Eagles will address this opening in the draft.

I don’t expect them to fill the spot through free agency because they already have two members of their offensive line who are well over 30 years of age.  Jason Peters (33) and Evan Thomas (33) make up the left side of the line and they’ll likely need to be replaced in a two or three years.  I think they want to get younger up front.

Herremans, along with defensive end/ linebacker Trent Cole had been with the Birds for the longest number of years.  Both he and Cole were drafted in 2005.

It’s likely that Herremans will be picked up by another team.  He played quite a few years for Andy Reid, who is currently the Kansas City Chiefs head coach.  He was also very close to Juan

 

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andrew p
andrew p
February 26, 2015 12:38 pm

Sad to see Herremans go, true warrior but it was time! If I’m the Eagles im using a second or third on that O lineman from Oregon, I think his name is Fisher, he would be perfect! he’s acknowledged by all the draft experts as a top guy, he knows Chips system and is use to the pace since their still using it there, he would be able to come in and be s starter from day one, gotta get him!

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 26, 2015 12:50 pm

Sign Iaupati,

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 26, 2015 1:18 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

lion i saw a thing on Iaupati last night saying he is a great guard but not the kind that gets to the second level (what the eagles like) that he is more of a ‘phone booth’ warrior, great on the interior and in the scrum?
dunno bout that cuz i haven’t watched enough– but…

paulman
paulman
February 26, 2015 3:54 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I agree HAC which is one of the reasons you haven’t seen me posting much about Iupati, who is a very good Player but is not necessarily good for this up-tempo,Spread Offense, where Guards have to get out and move down field and to that 2nd Level..
Plus Iuptai had a Severe Broken Fibula last Year and also an earlier Knee Injury so I am not investing $30-$40 Million for a Player with these kind of Issues

OL Clint Boling or Orlando Franklin are out there in Free-Agency but they will cost alot of $$$$4

I say Draft one of the Following OL to replace Herremans

1) Cameron Erving – (Fla State 6-5 313lbs – Late 1st/Early 2nd Rounder)
2) AJ McCann – (South Carolina 6-3 313lbs- 2nd Rounder)
3) Laken Tomlinson – (Duke 6-3 323lbs – Late 2nd/3rd Rounder)
4) Ali Marpet – (Hobart 6-4 307lbs – 3rd Rounder)
5) John Miller – (Louisville 6-2 303lbs – 3rd Rounder)
6) Josue Matias – (Fla State 6-5 309lbs – 4th Rounder)
7) Mitch Morse – (Missouri 6-5 305lbs – 4th Rounder)
8) BJ Finney – (Kansas State 6-4 324lbs – 4th/5th Rounder)

eagleman
eagleman
February 26, 2015 12:51 pm

EHL and Paulman. Another one down. 3 more to go. Go birds

lewdoggie20
lewdoggie20
February 26, 2015 12:53 pm

Sad to see him go but need to upgrade and get younger

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 26, 2015 12:58 pm

Dave Spadaro on Philly Sports Debate: “Howie Roseman ran the entire draft last year”

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 26, 2015 1:13 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

lol… spadaro! now there is an air tight source! may as well have been chip kelly saying it!

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
February 26, 2015 2:31 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

No one should ever believe anything that Spadaro says. That dude is on the Eagles payroll. Slurps the green kook aid.

paulman
paulman
February 26, 2015 4:02 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

I stated this multiple Times after last yeas Draft
1st 2 Picks (MSII & Jordan Matthews) were all Howie Roseman without a Doubt.. The entire key of Trading back from #22 to #26 was being able to move back up to the 2nd Round with Texans to get Jordan Matthews which was all Howie… No Doubt in the mind about this…
Rounds # 3 thru # 7, I believe, were all Chip Kelly’s with Tom Gambles imput..
Does anyone really think that Howie was going Pac-10 for Josh Huff in the 3rd Round (with WR’s M Bryant, D Moncrief from the ACC/SEC, on the Board
Or Looking at Taylor Hart in the 3rd & 4th and then taking him in the 5th Rd and also with Safety Ed Reynolds from the Pac 10 again in the 6th Rd…

mhenski
mhenski
February 26, 2015 4:20 pm
Reply to  paulman

except for the fact chip openly admits he begged for matthews round 1 and howie said relax we will get you WHO YOU WANT next round, this comes directly from chip. SO NO HOWIE DIDNT PICK MATTHEWS by himself, he may have put the pick in but that came from the coach

paulman
paulman
February 26, 2015 5:30 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I also stated that GM Roseman Selected OLB MSII for the very fact that fast forward to now, that Brandon Graham would be leaving and that the Eagles would seriously consider Cutting Trent Cole for Contract Reasons which is why he took MSII, plus the Hopes that MSII could actually get on the field which hasn’t occurred but one of Roseman’s main priorities last Draft was to address the OLB Position knowing that both Graham/Cole’s situations would change this Off-Season

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 26, 2015 2:04 pm

Howie Roseman made all the decisions in the draft. He controlled the entire draft. While howie made some good picks and decisions, he messed himself up a few of them, taking some guys too soon

We’re gonna see how good Chip can be under the gun starting this year, in full control of all personnel and decisions in the draft…

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 26, 2015 2:17 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

This is hilarious….. Just too funny. Eagles pointing to howie … Very transparent propiganda

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
February 26, 2015 2:32 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

You believe that Jon Hart and I got a bridge that I want to sell you.

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 26, 2015 4:31 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

What happened to Luries copious notes? Didn’t they point to Howie being great?

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2015 9:01 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Howie still works for the team, no need to throw him under the bus. Its all true, Howie controlled the draft

Why do you think Chip fought for all control?

Because Howie had to much power and made too many personnel decisions including the draft

Not farfetched at all

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 27, 2015 9:12 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

because spadaro said it after this shake up… it is SPIN– 100% spin-
just last year Mr. ‘Copious Notes’ said Howie was a great draft guy–
obviously they are blaming Howie for Smith- and that all may be true, but you don’t go from a ‘great draft guy’ to taking the full heat in one draft– did Howie get them Johnson, ertz and sproles? Matthews? —
come on this is 100% Spin— I’d be surprised if even spadaro could say it with a straight face! I’m sure he had his fingers crossed behind his back!

mhenski
mhenski
February 26, 2015 3:08 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

good reporting hart so chip had nothing to do with us getting matthews, huff, hart or ed reynolds.

HAAAAAAAAAAA OK

zilents44
zilents44
February 26, 2015 2:08 pm

I’d rather have frankin then Iupati……only because franklin would be better scheme fit

mhenski
mhenski
February 26, 2015 2:46 pm
Reply to  zilents44

YUP AND HE CAN PLAY TACKLE.

daggolden
daggolden
February 26, 2015 2:39 pm

Its also been reported that there is a massive sale on all Nick Foles signed items on the Eagles website. Chip better know what he is doing.

mhenski
mhenski
February 26, 2015 2:55 pm
Reply to  daggolden

everything that has his signature on it is discounted , while his shirts and jerseys remain full price. think its no big deal, just a supply and demand thing – who buys autographs nowadays anyway

zilents44
zilents44
February 26, 2015 3:05 pm

I just read espn’s analytics report on all professional teams……the sixers are number 1 and the phillies are last damn Ruben sucks….well at least we got a world series out of it

mhenski
mhenski
February 26, 2015 3:13 pm
Reply to  zilents44

those analytics are paying zero fucking dividends for the sixers. that organization on this day is the worst in philly sports history and that is the worst philly sports team ever assembled and its downright embarrassing.

did analytics play a role in deciding to build their practice facility in one of the worst cities (maybe the worst) in the country? im pretty sure that choice is going to make draft picks run and free agents laugh in our face unless they are building a private subway/rail/duckboat line that goes right into the facility and bypasses driving through that sesspool sewage city

zilents44
zilents44
February 26, 2015 3:20 pm
Reply to  mhenski

we are in a rebuild process henski very unfair to judge the sixers now…..it’s only year 2 in the rebuild….I guess you were happy with Spencer hawes, evan turner, and andre iggy getting us a eight seed every year and getting put out in 1st rd…..in two maybe 3 years from now you can judge the process but now is a terrible time to….shit the phillies will suck for the next 3 years at least

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 26, 2015 3:48 pm
Reply to  zilents44

What little patience/faith I had in the TANK went away last trade deadline….

mhenski
mhenski
February 26, 2015 4:16 pm
Reply to  zilents44

all reports say they wouldve moved embiid. noel sucks, they traded mcw. im reading reports cousins was available and with multiple 1st round draft picks mcw, noel, embiid we couldnt land a star to build around? we have nothing, zero talent, except maybe embiid and if he blows this is the biggest disgrace in sports history.

and the choice to move practice to camden is as dumb as it gets. real teams have their facility open 24/7 and certain players love that. NO MILLIONAIRE IS GOING TO CAMDEN AT NIGHT TO SHOOT HOOPS

zilents44
zilents44
February 26, 2015 4:23 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Reports im going to hac you real quick did the gm state that or just some report…..hac do u believe the report on emblid trade rumors or are you listening to the tea leaves

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 26, 2015 4:26 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I read that they listened on embid .. That’s ok.

mhenski
mhenski
February 26, 2015 4:31 pm
Reply to  zilents44

heinke dont talk man cmon. embiid added on some weight man that guy looks like a legit nba center that will crush people. i hope he pans out @!

mhenski
mhenski
February 26, 2015 3:15 pm

is franchise tag deadline day this moNDAY??????

paulman
paulman
February 26, 2015 4:18 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Yes this Monday 3/2 by 4pm is the Deadline for Teams to Place “Franchise Tags” on Players and then have until July 27th to either Reach a Long-Term Deal with that Player or to go ahead and play the 2015 Season at the “Franchise Salary Amount”..
Player can no longer be Fanchised Twice like they used to be…
In fact, I expect very few Players to be Franchised at all for it’s not a real good move by the Clubs

pdiddy
pdiddy
February 26, 2015 5:29 pm

Shot out to Taraji p Henson looking great sweety. She is truly getting better with age.

pdiddy
pdiddy
February 26, 2015 5:36 pm

Once again fellas you guys are the only reason why I even glanced at the combine. The scenarios that you guys come up with, are a lot more interesting than what the Eagles will actually do. Go gcobbers.

pdiddy
pdiddy
February 26, 2015 5:44 pm

With the 20th pick the Philadelphia Eagles select………Bryon Jones from Connecticut lmao

pdiddy
pdiddy
February 26, 2015 5:49 pm

He jumped three feet his measurables are off the charts

invinoveritus
invinoveritus
February 26, 2015 7:42 pm

the most relevant part of this story was the fact the Eagles OL coach spent the combine looking at O Lineman – some spot on journalism there! Maybe he should have been looking at potential cheerleader replacements? Did anyone really think the Eagles were not going to draft a guard somewhere between rounds 2 and 4? Both Mathis and Hermanns missed time last year, both are up in age – In addition to the two starting tackles the birds also liked Barbre and have 3 other tackles on the roster to compete for tackle #4 and 5 – Hermanns didn’t play that well and the guys that replaced him did not either – even if Hermanns came back they would need a guard –

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 26, 2015 8:07 pm
Reply to  invinoveritus

All true

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 26, 2015 10:46 pm

**Eagles Free Agency**

Raiders are releasing S Tyvon Branch possibly monday. He will be very hot in a weak safety market. He signed a lucrative deal in OAK not long ago. Hes only 28 years old and when hes out there playing, hes very productive

I see him as a possible option for the eagles

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 27, 2015 8:06 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Just another familiar name not worth the attention given. I wouldn’t want him on this team. You’re totally overvaluing him; and no he’s really not productive, he was part of that secondary that gave up 7 TD’s to Foles.

He would bring nothing to the secondary we haven’t already had, and will not be bringing back. So why kick the tires??

Rhino
Rhino
February 27, 2015 12:07 am

Always wanted this safety on the eagles.

DCar
DCar
February 27, 2015 12:59 am

Yeah, injury prone, underachiever, that will come on the cheap. Branch is a perfect fit!

paulman
paulman
February 27, 2015 8:51 am

To be Honest…
The Eagles are probably better off re-signing Nate Allen
There is not many Safety’s in Free-Agency and this Safety Draft Class is pretty weak to say the least as far players making any impact their first season or two.
I believe Nate Allen will be in pretty strong Demand and offered some bigger deals from the Redskins, Colts, TB Bucs, Falcons, Texans…

andrew p
andrew p
February 27, 2015 10:48 am
Reply to  paulman

Forget that! You get rid of him just because of the perception of him here, you let the new secondary coach recomend someone from his former team, maybe their was a guy he had who was ready to breakout but was held back because of all the money the Broncos put out for Talib n Ward.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
February 27, 2015 10:10 am

wr -Harry Douglas released…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2015 11:09 am

**Eagles News**

According to a source, the Eagles are “determined” to make a trade for Marcus Mariota in this years upcoming draft

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 11:18 am

Here is the latest on what Kempski is hearing regarding the team’s pursuit of the quarterback:

Every day, with little things I hear, evidence continues to build that the Eagles are going to make a strong play for Marcus Mariota. To note, this is something I had previously thought to be unrealistic, so as bits of information have trickled in, they’ve been absorbed on my end with skepticism. But it appears the Eagles are determined to get their guy.

Kempski goes on to say that although the team is going to try, the move is no “slam dunk.”

Head coach Chip Kelly’s attempt to get his former quarterback is starting to become one of the worst kept secrets in the NFL, as more and more analysts start to project the Eagles moving up to get him.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 11:58 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Absolutely perfect, and completely in line with this franchise who clearly never wants to win.

1 – Get Mariotta by committing franchise suicide. Wonderful option. Oline? Who needs it? Depth? No one gets injured – we drink shakes? DBs? Safties? LB? 5th and 6th rounders are all we need! We’re going to DOMINATE the rookie FA market!!

Trading what will need to be traded to ensure Mariotta will gut the franchise and ruin it for the next 7-10 years.

2 – Fail to get Mariotta. “2nd choice” Foles leaves as FA after 2015 season. Eagles enter 2016 Without a QB. and probably another mid-round pick after going 10-6 again. Franchise struggles under new rookie QB for another 3-4 years.

Eagles, to the glee of twits like yourself who think running QBs are saviours, have painted themselves into a “no-win” corner.

I see nothing but problems with either options the Birds now have in front of them. Oh well, Here’s to the 2017 draft when the Eagles will actually have another first round pick, and will be drafting high enough to get a QB then without shredding their depth.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 12:01 pm

Forget that. I meant 2018. Eagles are going to have to give up 2015, 16 and 17 firsts to move up to #2.

Here’s to the 2018 draft! First pick overall coming up!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2015 12:22 pm

EXPLODING 5 MYTHS ABOUT TRADING UP FOR MARCUS MARIOTA

By Mark Eckel | For NJ Advance Media
on February 25, 2015 at 6:30 AM, updated February 25, 2015 at 3:44 pm

There are currently two types of Eagles fans — those who want Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota and those who do not.

Actually the latter group wouldn’t mind him. They are just scared away by what they think it might cost to move from the No. 20 pick in the first round of the NFL Draft to where Mariota will land.

To those people, I say relax.

Here are the five biggest myths about the Eagles and the league’s next great quarterback.

That’s right I said it: Mariota will be the league’s next great quarterback.

Myth No. 1 There’s no way the Eagles can get him. It’s a pipe dream.

Have you been around Chip Kelly? The Eagles coach gets what he wants more often than not. Ask Howie Roseman the next time you see him. If Kelly really wants Mariota, and all indications are he does, he’s going to do everything he can to get him.

Myth No. 2: They’re going to have to mortgage the future to do it.

I’m not even sure what that means. Mortgage? Are they getting a fixed rate, or an ARM? If they get Mariota they’re getting a great arm. If the Eagles can get Mariota, he is their future. And he would provide them with a chance to be good every year the way all great quarterbacks do.

Myth No. 3: It would cost too much.

Can you really put a price on a franchise quarterback? There are only a good handful of them in the league. And what would that price be? Say it’s three first-round picks. Would you give up Brandon Graham, Danny Watkins and Marcus Smith for Mariota? That’s actually three firsts and two thirds, since the Eagles moved up to take Graham. I’ll throw in a second as well, Jaiquan Jarrett.

Myth No. 4: Look what happened to Washington when the Redskins traded for Robert Griffin III.

It’s easy to assume the Eagles would have to give up an RG3-type package to move up for Marcus Mariota, but it’s just not accurate.

First of all, Mariota isn’t RG3 and the Eagles aren’t the Redskins. And what exactly did happen? Griffin, playing under a coach who didn’t want him in Mike Shanahan, won the NFC East as a rookie. Then he got hurt and has never been the same. Meanwhile, the Rams, with all those highly coveted draft picks, have yet to reach .500. Why? Because they don’t have a quarterback.

Myth No. 5: They can’t trade for Mariota. They have to fix the defense, especially the secondary.

Do you really believe in a draft with one good safety and a few OK cornerbacks the Eagles are going to “fix” the defense with the 20th overall pick. If the Eagles are going to “fix” the defense they will add a free agent, or two, before the draft. And by the way, they may have gone a long way in fixing the secondary when they hired Cory Undlin to replace John Lovett.

Follow Mark Eckel on Twitter at @MarkEckel08. Find NJ.com Sports on Facebook

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 12:51 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

this is by far the best comment posted all offseason..kudos to EAGLESsaslanded for putting all the talking points for Mariota naysayers out there.

the reality is we can’t win with without a top 5 defense and it’s not possible to get the pieces in the draft to become a top 5 defense.

Mariota gives a dynamic that actually helps the defense by being able to move the chains on 3rd down.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 12:38 pm

yeah….and maybe we can get another Marcus Smith with the 1st pick in 2018.

Here’s to the 1st pick knowing the Eagles usually get a guy no one really cares for ending in bust.

When was the last time the Eagles drafted a first round perennial 1st rounder?

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 1:24 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

I dont think you can be a perennial 1st rounder

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 1:41 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

You’re thinking makes no sense.

firstly you rail on and on and on about how the Eagles never make a good first round pick….and in the same breath you want the Eagles to trade numerous picks so that they’ll only have one 1st round pick in 3 years. All eggs in one pick! (again, a pick you say the Eagles suck at. A pick that they…”usually get a guy no one really cares about” – your words)

Why do you rip the Eagles for all their first round picks…….except this one?

So when Mariotta is a typical pick that “no one cares about” (your words – remember you’re the one saying the Eagles are terrible at their first round picks)…..well wouldn’t you w3ant a bunch of second and third rounders to fall back upon? “cause they’ll be gone too….

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 12:34 pm

So, does that mean you are out on Chip if he believes Mariota is the key ingredient that will lead the Eagles to the promised land?

I mean….We should trust Kelly to do the right thing after seeing 2 years of Foles. We must trust the head coach knows if an upgrade is needed at QB after examining Foles from the time Chip entered the NFL.

Will you now go against Chip if he finds a way to get his guy while trading Foles in the process?

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 1, 2015 11:47 pm

smh…well in my little absence…I see I haven’t missed much.

Vinnedaloser still bawling like a baby over Foles!

Still desperately holding on when its obvious….Chip doesn’t believe in Nick Foles.

Accept it Vinnie…just face the facts.

Its over for Foles..he’s finished here as an Eagle…he had a shot and Chip just doesn’t feel comfortable with him.

Chip’s assessment of Mariota is that he is a franchise QB and if you have to give up our entire draft this year and some picks in the upcomiing year for a guy that you believe is a franchise QB…you make the move!

Period.

Chip sees the adjustments that defenses are making, he sees that a slow thinking, slow moving, oft-injured QB like Nick Foles cant win in his system…no need to hang on to Foles, trying to coach around his deficiencies…he’s too slow-physically and mentally. Give Nick a chance to catch on with someone else…trade him…but its clear-its time for Foles to pack his bags

I believe Chip is going all in to get his man and if he cant get Mariota he’ll take Hundley…but he’s moving on from Foles

Its Chips call…time to get with the program and accept the reality…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 8:08 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Thanks for the update Songs.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 12:52 pm

No defense on earth can compensate for the number of 3 and outs that come with Foles at QB.

The 3 and out percentages are staggering under Foles.

paulman
paulman
March 2, 2015 7:26 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

The 3 & Outs are staggering under Chip Kelly
Whether it was Vick,Foles or Sanchez playing QB
Maybe Kelly needs to mix it up some and not
Be so predictable

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 12:55 pm

Vince Young will attempt a comeback next month at the veteran combine.

GET YOUR MAN CHIP! BUST A MOVE!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 12:58 pm
Reply to  mhenski

naw, Mariota will do. I would rather have Mariota with Vick as a solid backup,which would be a vast improvement over the Foles/Sanchez debacle.

zilents44
zilents44
February 27, 2015 1:15 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

If we can trade foles for a 1st rd pick or a high second then im good with mariota but we gotta fix the defense in free agency hopefully chip knows what he is doing

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 1:41 pm
Reply to  zilents44

nobody giving up a 1st or 2nd rounder for a lame duck qb… shady would likely be the guy being moved

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 1:42 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Vick!!!

LOL

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 2:29 pm

No matter what you think of Vick, he’s a serious upgrade from Sanchez as a backup.

The Eag’es win the NFC EASTand host a playoff game if Vick is the backup after Foles gets blasted out for another season ending injury.

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 2:34 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

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zilents44
zilents44
February 27, 2015 2:36 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

God i truly hate you songs vick are u serious shut da fuck up

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 1:53 pm

Again, Here’s where the “get Mariotta!” arguements always fall apart:

From Eckle: “It’s easy to assume the Eagles would have to give up an RG3-type package to move up for Marcus Mariota, but it’s just not accurate.”

Yes it is accurate Eckel (king of the twits). History tells us its true.

The Tennesee titans have the Eagles over a friggin’ barrel right now….the entire Philly universe is ragin’ about Mariotta, 4394 articles today alone.

They ahave the Eagles bent over, and they are going to pump hard.

1998:
2 firsts, 2 seconds and 2 players for SD to move up 1 spot to guarantee themselves a QB (and this when top picks were less valuable because of the extreme cap implications)

2011
3 firsts and a second for WSH to move up 4 spots to guarantee themselves a QB

2015. Eagles must move up 18 spots to #2 to guarantee themselves a shot at that QB.

Negotiations won’t even BEGIN at 3 1sts.

Titans will ask for wither 4 firsts, and 2nds and 3rds AT LEAST.

This isn’t speculation.

It isn’t hope.

Its History.

The titans are going to say to the Eagles “4 firsts and Foles and Cox or we’re taking him” You want him? Then you have to pay.

18 spots to get to #2.

In an era when the top [picks are worth more (due to salary restrictions) than they were in 1998 when it soct 2 firsts and a second to move up 1 spot.

Mariotta, and hey I’d love the guy.

But not at that price.

That price cripples the franchise…..guaranteed.

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 2:08 pm

According to Philly Voice’s Jimmy Kempski, “evidence continues to build” that the Eagles plan to trade up for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.
We’ve followed Kempski’s work for years and can’t ever remember him being wrong. Most notably, he called the DeSean Jackson release well in advance. Kempski acknowledges he previously believed Philly moving up for Mariota was “unrealistic,” but now “it appears the Eagles are determined to get their guy.” Moving up from No. 20 into the top-two picks would likely cost Philadelphia most of its 2015 draft class, in addition to a 2016 first-round pick.
Related: Eagles
Source: Philly Voice
Feb 27 – 1:53 PM

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 2:25 pm
Reply to  mhenski

TRADE RUMORS

Shady and #20 pick to the Jaguars for #3 pick
Foles to chiefs for #18 pick

or

Shady, Foles and #20 pick to Titans for #2 pick

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 2:51 pm
Reply to  mhenski

In scenario 1 Eagles trade Foles, Shady and the #20 for the #3 and #18??

Does that guarantee them Mariotta? I don’t think so.

If that trade did guarantee Mariotta then Every Eagles fan is jumping for joy and does the deal….which tells me right away there’s no way that’s a viable proposal. Eagles jump on scenario #1 in a heartbeat.

Foles and Shady for Mariotta and a move up 2 spots to 18????

Even I’d do that deal in a second…..laughing.

The second rumour is getting closer to something that makes sense….but its not enough…..

Shady Foles and 20 for the #2? Throw in another first and maybe a second and we’re getting to the ballpark of what the Eagles will have to give up to get to that #2 pick.

Can any Eagles fan honestly say that:

Mariotta – Shady – Foles – #20 pick – 2016 pick > Shady + Foles +#20 +2016 first??

I certainly don’t.

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 2:56 pm

in rumor #1 CHip then gives #3 pick #20 pick and next years #1 pick to tampa to pick #1 and take MM

Post draft all NFL gms who were picking in the top 10 admit they were not taking Marriota at their pick

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 3:02 pm
Reply to  mhenski

TB can’t do that. They need a QB.

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 27, 2015 3:01 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Are u the new fraud man

zilents44
zilents44
February 27, 2015 3:05 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I was thinking that hac did mhenski take over pman rumors

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 3:47 pm
Reply to  zilents44

yes i wanted to try and be the paulman today. but on the real i cant see a scenario where if we are moving up for the duck that mccoy and foles arent traded also

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 27, 2015 3:52 pm
Reply to  mhenski

No one wants shady for the same reason nobody wanted to trade for desean… Contract

paulman
paulman
February 27, 2015 4:06 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Latest Paulman Rumor (I just can’t let Mhenski get away with this)

This only works if Mariota falls in the Draft which I think he will

Eagles Send QB Foles, RB McCoy , the 20th Pick in 2015 Draft plus their 2nd Round Pick in 2016 Draft to the SL Rams for their 10th Pick (Mariota) & RB Tre Mason

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 27, 2015 4:25 pm
Reply to  mhenski

That is the dumbest trade for a player that is totally overrated..

If he does that we won’t make the playoffs…

Tre Mason stinks what does he bring of value???….You love that mediocrity don’t you??

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 2:37 pm
Reply to  mhenski

You really can’t go on the past because those teams didn’t have a pro bowl QB to package for a trade.

Now throw in a QB one year removed from an historic year with a pro bowl birth who could prosper in a conventional offense…package that with a swap and 1 st rounder and a second rounder.

That’s feasible and actually more than prospects that may not pqn out.

And I’m still waiting for you same guys to explain why the Rams sucks ass and haven’t had one playoff birth since they snookered the skins for all those high picks? in exchange for the RG3 trade.

Right now, it seems the Skins still benefited more by taking a losing team from losers to a division title and playoff birth in RG3’s first season.

Did the Rams do better?

Anoteer reason no on can compare RG#’s situation to Mariota’s is the fact Mariota didn’t have reconstructive surgery on his knee while playing in college..

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 2:43 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

skins D is on the come up songs because of those picks. will be the best d in nfl in the next 2 years

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 8:02 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Rams d not skins d whooops

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 2:56 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Wait…now you’re saying Foles is a pro bowl QB one year off a historic year???

The least you could do is stay consistant.

If you actually believed that, then you are calling yourself an idiot….because you want that guy shipped.

And shipping a historic pro bowl QB would clearly be an idiotic thing to do!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 7:11 pm

yes shipping his ass outta here is the best for the Eagles because his slow ass is hindering Chip\s offense but Foles can still be an asset for an conventional offensive team….So again…..

you give up far less packaging a qb one year removed from a pro bowl than trying to trade up like the Skins did with nothing to offer outside of draft picks.

Chip can get his guy Mariota without selling the farm by adding Foles in the package.

paulman
paulman
February 27, 2015 4:09 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Because the Rams Play in the Toughest Division of all of Football over the last 2-3 Seasons
Eagles would go 2-4 Every Year at Best playing the Seahawks, 49ers & Cardinals Twice..

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 7:15 pm
Reply to  paulman

Excuses excuses.

The Cowboys were in one of the toughest divisions in football when they received those picks from the Vikings for Hershel and began to kick ass. So spare me the division excuse.

If those picks were as valuable as every here claim they are then the Rams would be contenders but they’re not because of the QB position.

See, it’s easier to build a Super bowl Contender with a top QB.

What was the Seahawks before Russell Wilson? We can talk about the defense all we want but that team wouldn’t have won the Super Bowl without Wilson.

A very good QB can carry a team and not the other way around.

invinoveritus
invinoveritus
February 27, 2015 2:32 pm

Wow – why not just take Hundley in the 3rd – big strong fast cannon for an arm… even if we can;t gat a safety – and some mocks have us picking the guy from Alabama – or a CB – we still need a Guard, OLB. ILB – maybe another WR (assuming Smith gone – and they keep 5 – someone to take over for Cooper if they leave MAthews in slot) wouldn;t you be giving all of this away –

1st Round – Safety/CB or OL
2nd – OLB/ILB –
3rd – Hundley or one of the holes still left

I have heard Hundley may drop even further –

Hundley is bigger then Marriota – go with Foles as Starter – Hundley being groomed as BU and Barkley holds the clipboard for another season – Foles plays out his rookie contract ad if he kills it – extend him. Rodgers sat for a few years – Young sat for a while too – if not, year two or if Foles gets hurt –

That put blinders on a horse so it runs in only one direction – I think you can address a potential Foles meltdown without mortgaging the future. And a solid OL will go one hell of a long way to helping any offense (look at what Dallas did) – if you drafted a stud RG – how would you attack the Eagles OL – through in Celek being the best blocking TE in the NFL – depth ont he OL to prevent what happened last season early on – and a QB in grooming should there be an issue with Foles – use FA and draft to fix DBs

zilents44
zilents44
February 27, 2015 2:41 pm
Reply to  invinoveritus

That makes too much sense inno never ginna happen chip gonna get hid guy bust a move lol

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 2:44 pm
Reply to  invinoveritus

i would be against drafting hundley in the 7th round. HE IS AWFUL

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 27, 2015 3:42 pm
Reply to  invinoveritus

A QB dropping at draft time and you want him? Why?

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 27, 2015 2:39 pm

I would package both both Foles and Shady to swap up for Mariota, which would limit the number of picks we’d have to give up.

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 2:45 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

so in other words you would do what i just posted?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 2:59 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I would also do that.

Everyone would do that.

That’s why its not going to happen. Its not enough.

Foles, Shady, 2015 1st and 2016 1st and the Titans will think about it.

BTW – do the Titans want McCoy? I think they’d be asking for a player like Cox over McCoy.

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 27, 2015 3:46 pm
Reply to  mhenski

There is a major over evaluation of shady here on gcobb. Great player , huge price tag and 26-27 year old RB. Teams would rather take a back in the draft.

Xevious
Xevious
February 27, 2015 2:43 pm

We trade for marriotta I’m starting # Fire Chip Kelly and # Fuck yourself Songs….less is more

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 27, 2015 2:45 pm
Reply to  Xevious

LOL

andrew p
andrew p
February 27, 2015 3:37 pm

Get your guy Chip! we’ll get there faster in the long run with his franchise QB then focusing on any other position, I said this on here yesterday, look at the Rams, all those good quality players they got in that rg3 deal n they can’t get to the playoffs, why not? No QB that’s why! the Skins get right in in his first year, before anyone talks about injuries yes, it could happen to mariota n can happen to anyone else too so save that weak argument, bottom line is this, Chip needs his franchise QB and he should do whatever it takes. One more thing to add, it wasn’t the rg3 deal that set the Skins back, it was their cap situation, they had millions they couldn’t spend cause of the violation plus bad cap management, we don’t have that problem so giving up future picks won’t hurt us like it did them.

paulman
paulman
February 27, 2015 3:58 pm

I read where Chip Kelly is going to have a “Fan” select the Eagles 1st Pick in the Draft since he’s on Record that it’s a 50/50% Shot of Working out to drum up
some Excitement about the Eagles Draft this Year

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 4:04 pm

NBC Washington’s Dianna Marie Russini reports the Cardinals will release DE Darnell Dockett.
Source: Dianna Marie Russini on Twitter
Feb 27 – 4:02 PM

zilents44
zilents44
February 27, 2015 4:18 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Ha ha pman i told you dockett would get released

paulman
paulman
February 27, 2015 4:53 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Yes you did,
Word is that he will sign a new Restructured Deal in late March back with the Cardinals which helps them save some $$$ before Free-Agent and his Roster Bonus which was coming Due in early March as a lot of Roster Bonus’s are

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 5:33 pm
Reply to  paulman

Profootballtalk reports the Cardinals released DE Darnell Dockett because the sides couldn’t agree on his market value.
The Cardinals attempted to extend Dockett after he refused to take a pay cut, but were unwilling to meet his asking price. Dockett will only return to Arizona if he can’t get a better deal on the open market. The Cardinals are a projected $17 million under the 2015 salary cap.

andrew p
andrew p
February 27, 2015 4:17 pm

Dolphins just released Brandon Gibson, isn’t he the guy we drafted who went to the Rams who played good for them? If it is I would take a shot at him, he’s definitely an up grade over Brad Smith, Jeff Mehl and whoever else we had at the backend

paulman
paulman
February 27, 2015 4:57 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Yes he is.. We Traded him for their MLB whose name escapes me that played 1/2 Season for the Eagles when Jamar Cheney was injured…
Good Grief… I liked Brandon Gibson..

paulman
paulman
February 27, 2015 5:01 pm
Reply to  paulman

Will Witherspoon was the LB traded for Brandon Gibson

zilents44
zilents44
February 27, 2015 5:03 pm

Every time i watchef a dolphins game they always hated on gibson

Xevious
Xevious
February 27, 2015 5:21 pm

#FireChipKelly #SongsGoFuckYourself

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
February 27, 2015 5:30 pm
Reply to  Xevious

haveacigar can go fuck himself even harder!

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 27, 2015 5:38 pm
Reply to  Mac Dolo

Why the anger

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 5:46 pm

If Eagles want Mariotta so badly….well obviously they would have known that months ago.

S0 why roll with Sanchez throwing 36x for 292 yrds? Why win that NYG game?

Why not start Barkley (could have been easily explained as an ‘evaluation’) and run Polk 30x?

What did Eagles lose there? 4? 5 spots? They would have known about the “Quest For Mariotta” then….so why make the quest more difficult?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2015 6:27 pm

No one on the team is thinking along those likes at that point in time. If the Eagles had one or two wins, they may have considered playing the backups… which would have likely resulted in a loss to the Giants. I just don’t think Chip gives a damn about draft picks…he just wants his guys and will pick them where he wants to or do what he feels he needs to in order to get them.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
February 27, 2015 6:53 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

that would make chip the worst GM in history and prove that he is shortsighted. if he needs MM send him to what ever team picks him for next years whole draft. then let our OC be HC and if Foles does not show you he is the guy you get a real NFL coach and GM in Here let Foles walk , get a high pick and take your QB. we compete about the same time as we would if we had Mm and no picks for half a decade

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2015 7:07 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

When a lot of new coaches go to a new team they want to build the team in their image and win with their players, especially at the QB position, unless the QB is elite, ala Luck, Manning, Wilson or Brady and Brees a few years ago. Other than that all bets are off. Chip is playing with Andy Reid’s guys. If you were all in and believe n Chip before this Mariota talk, be all in with him if he gets Mariota. Fuck it…if that’s what Chip wants…then he should get him. I’m all in!

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
February 27, 2015 7:16 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

if he wanted Mm he should have traded every vet he could prior to last year and TANKED for the 1st overall…He knew then who Mariota is and so if he is worth the future he would have been worth the present and past. #Shortsighted.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2015 8:03 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

Every one stated that the great thing about Chip is that he sees and does thing differently, until he does something they don’t agree with, then it’s a problem.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
February 27, 2015 8:51 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

He is welcome to fail elsewhere. My choice would have been Ariens….I think I was right then, unfortunately.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2015 9:11 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Only time will tell Regal. They are tied 1-1 head to head in two seasons.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 11:21 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

Exactly my point. Could have easily pulled a “colts” and tanked it.

The real issue is that last game. Nothing on the line except to lose draft position.

All the talk is Mariotta is the target….then he would have been the target then also. Winning the game is (if Mariotta is the target) absolutely detrimental to the franchise.

Yet they thres 36x
McCoy was featured
They put on a punt rush and blocked one for a td instead of sitting
They threw more than handed off

Winning that game was detrimental to acquiring Mariotta.

And yet everyone insists Mariotta is the target.

Any intelligent franchise targeting Mariotta would have lost that game.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2015 11:46 pm

Wouldn’t that go against developing a culture of winning? Chip is high on culture…right?

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
February 27, 2015 6:54 pm

#TradeChip before we dip

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2015 8:21 pm

I want you guys who are refuting the report about the eagles moving up for Mariota, to keep this in mind

My source along with Jimmy Kempski was all over DJax being released well before anyone thought it was possible.

Point is, this isnt a smokescreen by the Eagles or mere bar talk. This is legitimate.

They want Mariota and theyll do whatever it takes to get him

Im glad too, hopefully we’ll finally have a QB that can run this offense to its fullest extent. He has good footwork, quick in the pocket, makes smart decisions, can read a defense, has smarts, has speed ran a 4.5, is mature and well spoken, not all that nick foles rah rah i love my teammates nonsense every press conference and one very important thing, he can run the zone read, and he’ll get us 10-20 yards not 3 or 4 like Foles

This trade will be franchise changing and in my opinion, change for the better..

mhenski
mhenski
February 27, 2015 8:34 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

And there you have it boys and girls mariota is not coming here, it’s official.

zilents44
zilents44
February 27, 2015 8:35 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Lol

paulman
paulman
February 27, 2015 9:19 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Somewhere, Songs is looking for a Bridge to jump off with JH’s Statement that Eagles are all in for Mariota

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 27, 2015 8:52 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

They want Mariotta according to whom?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2015 9:14 pm

Jon Hart: “not all that nick foles rah rah i love my teammates nonsense every press conference “….LMAO! Hearing this did get maddeningly tired….especially after he would go back out and commit the same errors he did the week before.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2015 10:53 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Yea EHL It was like nails to a chalkboard

He’s like a broken record

Same thing every week. All that talking doesnt change the fact that hes as slow as molasses. Cant freakin move in the pocket, cant run the zone read effectively, makes poor decisions with the ball, instead of taking a sack or throwing the ball away he’d rather throw it up for grabs

I’m over the Foles experiment. I was in his corner until now. He just cant run this offense to its fullest extent.

“Out with the old in with the new” right paul?! Ha

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2015 11:18 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

I like Foles, it’s just that if Chip can upgrade the most important position on the team then he should do it. I am more tired of the Folesian society that believes Foles is untouchable and blames his erratic play on everything else but Foles’ bad tendencies. Anyone can be replaced. Nick is not Joe Flacco, but the way some on here act you would think he is comparable. He’s closer to Red head King Pin (Andy Dalton) than Joe Flacco. Dalton is good, but I question if he can get Cincy over the hump.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 11:25 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

WHy won the meaningless NYG game if Mariotta is the target, thus raising compensation required.

Why throw 36x?
Why feature McCoy?
Why no Barkley?
Why block a punt instead of playing for the return?

They went all out to win a meaningless game that made it harder to move up to get a guy everyone knew would be top 5……..

The only intelligent move, if MM was/is the target was to lose that game……..

But the Eagles did the exact opposite………..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 27, 2015 11:26 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

No one thinks Foles is untouchable.

Anyone can be replaced.

But replacing Foles with a college QB that will cost the franchise 4 first round picks is stupid.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2015 11:38 pm

Who said it was going to cost 4 first rounders? I seriously doubt that would be the price.

As far as losing the last game, it is not in Chip’s DNA to lose on purpose. As I stated, he will do what it takes to get a player he wants, he just needs a trade partner. The Jags want to trade out, I suspect Mariota to be there at #3. That would be where the Eagles would try to slip in at.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 28, 2015 8:59 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

in 1998 it cost 2 firsts 2 seconds and 2 players for SD to move up 1 spot from 3 to 2 to ensure they got the QB they wanted.

In 2011it cost 3 firsts and a second for Wsh to move up 4 spots from 6 to 2 to ensure they got the QB they wanted.

In 2015 the Eagles will have to move up 18 spots from 20 to 2 to ensure they get the QB they want.

You can “seriously doubt” that it will cost 4 first rounders….but history says it will. The Titans have the Eagles bent over a barrel right now. The internet posts a “Chip love Mariotta” article every 7 seconds,

How could you possible believe it will cost the Eagles less than other team’s have paid in the past??

They have to move more….they’ll have to pay more.

That’s where I get 4 first rounders…..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 28, 2015 9:34 am

Dude, there is no standard template. You have the Jags who want to move out of the third spot. You see what they want in order to get in that spot. It is all negotiable. Chip will have to determine what is within reason. Stop curling up in the corner with the dooms day scenario. Toooooo scary….lol. I hope Chip is more of a shrewed negotiator than to give into what you ate suggesting. But, at the endof the day if he determined that the price was worth it…oh well. The Eagles ate not winning the big one in the next couple of years in my opinion anyway so what ever. I do not think they would re -sign Foles anyway so we would be looking for a qb next off season anyway and would probably be giving up picks to move up so he my as well get it over with and get his guy..if he is in fact his guy.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 28, 2015 9:48 am

are..not ate. Now that is a typo as the r and the t are next to each other. Damn cell phone keypad can be a bitch.

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 28, 2015 9:53 am

The Jags pick can be had, without giving up the future whatever the hell that means, but the Titans are the ones that can screw up this entire scenario by drafting Mariota. Hell you offer the Titans a couple of ones and a two and either Foles or Cox and in my opinion that gets that deal done. Just ride it out and let Chip do whatever he wants to do.

paulman
paulman
February 28, 2015 9:59 am

EHL,
I do believe the Jags want to trade Back
From #3, the big question I have and I hope Chip Kelly has,
Is what other Team wants to move up to #3 and trade Future Picks
specifically for QB Mariota..
I just don’t think there is a big demand for Mariota
And that the Eagles can wait as he slides down the Board
To where the Eagles will not have to give up as much
To get him..
The Eagles move up to #3 after the Titans at #2 pass on him would be ove of the stupidest moves ever in a NFL Draft Day Trade

In a nutshell, I believe the Eagles are only competing with themselves,as far as Teams,wanting To Trade Up for QB Mariota

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 28, 2015 10:00 am

Exactly..was not that the sentiment when Kelly let go of Djax…some on here was perfectly fine with Kelly doing what he wanted to build his team. It was all about culture and scheme fit. Boy oh boy how things change in a year…lol.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 28, 2015 10:10 am

Pman…all that you stated is well within the realm of possibility. I see Mariota is slipping in mock drafts…I only see him no higher than six now…and down to ten. We will start to get a clearer picture next week as FA starts off. If Eagles go in heavy on defense and take a guard…Chip may be setting up to give up the draft picks. If the Eagles are not active…then he probably will not be looking to move up…that far anyway. ..Gotta read the tea leaves..lol.

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 28, 2015 9:33 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Damn EHL I gotta get my nickname game up, Redheaded kingpin? You killed it with that one. When hip hop was fun. lol

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 28, 2015 9:37 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Lol…I was waiting to see who would recognize that one…You gotta do the right thing was my song. You are alright in my book Big…always have been!

mhenski
mhenski
February 28, 2015 11:23 am

DeMeco Ryans – LB – Eagles
The Philadelphia Daily News’ Paul Domowitch believes Eagles ILB DeMeco Ryans is a candidate for a contract extension.
Going on 31, Ryans counts $6.9 million against the salary cap in the final year of his deal. A two-year extension that lowers his cap number this year and offers Ryans some security could work for both sides. Ryans is questionable for training camp after tearing his Achilles’ tendon early in November.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News Feb 28 – 10:49 AM

mhenski
mhenski
February 28, 2015 11:24 am

LeSean McCoy – RB – Eagles
The Philadelphia Daily News’ Paul Domowitch said it is ‘not likely’ the Eagles want to keep LeSean McCoy at his current $11.95 million cap charge.
McCoy has already said he is not open to a pay cut, but a restructuring that kicked some guaranteed money down the road could work for both sides. The Eagles could also conceivably cut McCoy, but that seems unlikely at this point. McCoy rushed for 1319 yards and five touchdowns on 312 carries last season.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News Feb 28 – 10:45 AM

mhenski
mhenski
February 28, 2015 11:24 am

Trent Cole – LB – Eagles
The Philadelphia Daily News’ Paul Domowitch expects the Eagles to restructure OLB Trent Cole’s contract.
“Unless the Eagles sign a big-name edge-rusher in free agency, they likely will try to restructure Cole’s deal and bring him back for at least one more year,” Domowitch said. Philadelphia certainly wants to lower Cole’s current $11.625 million cap charge, but Cole has been too good the last two seasons to cut outright. The two sides should be able to reach a deal.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News Feb 28 – 10:34 AM

zilents44
zilents44
February 28, 2015 11:35 am
Reply to  mhenski

Shady wont take much of a cut…….i believe ryans and trent will restructure their deals…….shady could be a trade chip at this point…..if he is i like tevin coleman in the draft to replace him

andrew p
andrew p
February 28, 2015 12:18 pm

This Shady contract situation along with the DJax contract (which is why we couldn’t get anything for him) and Cole all falls on Roseman and that’s another reason why he should be gone, everyone is worried about Chip setting us back if he goes after Mariota, that wouldn’t be close to how Roseman has us in a bind with these crazy cap numbers that now we can’t even use these guys as trade bait.

zilents44
zilents44
February 28, 2015 12:55 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Tyvon branch is a interesting player…..he has been injured for the raiders for the past two seasons but was pretty good for them before that……Id bring him in on a one year prove it deal….but only if we dont get searcy or mccourty….but id still draft someone anyway

Jeff Kolsky
February 28, 2015 3:06 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I’d take a shot with Branch, 2 yr/9 million. A guy I like in round 3/4 is safety Clayton Geathers from UCF. I don’t see him as a starter this season, but an immediate contributor on special teams and could certainly play in dime package roles.

paulman
paulman
March 1, 2015 12:36 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

I like Safety C Geathers as well, as a 4th/5th Rd Pick

Jeff Kolsky
February 28, 2015 3:23 pm

THREE TEAM DEAL PROPOSAL

***This would be a 3 team deal that would land the Eagles the 1st overall pick and allow TB to “still” take Winston with the 2nd overall pick.

Eagles- receive the 1st overall pick from TB and safety Goldson.

TB- receives the 2nd overall pick from TENN. Receives CB Boykin and DE Vinnie Curry from PHI.

TENN- receives Foles and Cox from Philly. Receives Philly’s 1st rder in 2015, 1 & 3 in 2016 and 2 in 2017 to TENN.

**I personally would not like to give up Cox in the deal, but TENN was terrible with their run D last year, they play a 3-4, so I think it would be needed.

4 Vets ( I don’t see Boykins, Foles, Curry back in 2016), and 2 picks in 2016 and another in 2017.

DO THE DEAL

mhenski
mhenski
February 28, 2015 3:32 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Don’t think there has ever been a deal like that in the NFL. Nfl just doesn’t operate like nba and mlb

Jeff Kolsky
February 28, 2015 3:36 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Agree, but nobody by the name of Chip Kelly has sweet talked to other NFL teams before.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
February 28, 2015 3:55 pm

Philly would be giving up way to much in your trade Jeff I think mm falls,all the way to 20 now with browns getting McCown rams don’t need him cause Jeff fisher needs his job in 2016 the only wild that might take is Andy and the Chiefs but there in win now mode also and getting him doesn’t do nothing for Andy or that veteran team he has…

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 28, 2015 8:23 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

what is way too much.

Jeff Kolsky
February 28, 2015 4:59 pm

Mariota is not falling to pick 20. I’m not convinced Tennessee doesn’t taking him after his pro day. We are going to have to swallow the tremendous amount of pro talent and picks we give up to get mariota. I give it until his 9th snap in the preseason until he does something that makes you forget all about what we gave up.

andrew p
andrew p
February 28, 2015 8:18 pm

Rams take Foles and number 20 for the 10th pick, from there it’s a lot easier to move up, that was the best sounding rumor I heard, theirs no way Fisher doesn’t walk out of this draft without a QB, preferably a QB with experience, us fans might be down on Foles but theirs a lot of coaches that think he can succeed in the right system

paulman
paulman
March 1, 2015 12:00 am
Reply to  andrew p

It would still take more than Foles to move up 10 Spots in the 1st Round
Rams need a TE and would probably demand a 3rd or 4th Rd Pick also

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 1, 2015 12:04 am

Eagles must get to 2 to ensure Mariota

Stop all the “Mariotta will fall” BS because it ain’t going to happen.

Titans call Eagles….”trade ____________ or we pick him # 2 “Pay us now”

Titans have Eagles over a barrel.

Either 3 firsts and players….. or 4 firsts…….minimum.

Deal with it.

Stop dreaming all other fantasy pretender “it’ll only take…..” scenarios because history is laughing at you.

Want Mariotta??

Pay.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 1, 2015 2:21 am

reality….

The Eagles have the 20th pick in the first round. They would likely have to move between No. 3 and No. 6 to land Mariota. Based on the draft trade chart, which isn’t the trade law but is used as a gauge, the third pick counts for 2,200 points on the trade value chart, while the sixth is worth 1,600 points.

Philadelphia’s 20th pick is worth 850 points. That would mean a deal up would need an additional 1,200 to 1,350 to move up to No. 3 and 800 or so to move to No. 6. Based on the chart, the Eagles would have to give up that 20th pick, next year’s first-rounder (I used 25, which would be a value of 720), their second-round pick this year — No. 52, with a value of 390 points — and a third next year (No. 89, with a value of 145 points).

That adds up to 2,095 points, so it’s in the ballpark to get to the third spot and enough to get to No. 4. It could be amended based on the negotiation, but you get the idea.

That would seem like a ton, especially for a team with holes on defense. The Eagles finished 29th and 28th in total defense the past two seasons.

But franchise quarterbacks cure your ills and average ones expose them. Mariota might not be a great fit in a lot of offenses, therefore the ability to cure ills is at question with some offenses, but in Kelly’s system I think he would help overcome a lot of issues.

Mariota isn’t my style of quarterback, but he certainly is Kelly’s, which is why the deal makes sense.

We can look at the past five drafts for an idea of what the Eagles would be giving up if they made the bold move to go from No. 20 to No. 3. I looked at all the players taken with the 20th pick, the 25th pick, the 52nd pick and the 89th pick from the past five drafts.

What I found was one Pro Bowl player, and that was Chicago Bears guard Kyle Long, who has been to the past two. That’s it.

There have been some good players selected in those spots, including rising New England stars Jamie Collins and Dont’a Hightower, but on the whole it’s a group that would have one lean toward being more inclined to make the deal to get Mariota.

Pete Brisco CBS Sports.

zilents44
zilents44
March 1, 2015 8:25 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

There is a interesting report on bgn about why would chip push for all this power and not do something diffrent by going after mariota and the article went on to blame howie and chips relationship on mariota…..this could be true but we will never know

paulman
paulman
March 1, 2015 9:14 am
Reply to  zilents44

Do note that the Eagles Trading up from 20 to let’s say 10 or 6 or to 2 would pay a premium more than these “charts”show for very one pays more in a trade for potential franchise QB and especially in this case with it being a weak QB class to begin with and the ChipKelly/Mariota connection
These other Teams know this and will gouge Chip Kelly in the process

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 1, 2015 9:14 am

Unless he’s drafted if I’m chip I sit back and watch him fall in his lap

zilents44
zilents44
March 1, 2015 9:21 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

I think the rg3 trade helps a lot because people will be scared to take a dual threat qb…thinking they dont want their qb injured all the time

andrew p
andrew p
March 1, 2015 9:51 am
Reply to  zilents44

That’s BS! Kap n Wilson are doing just fine as duel threats, look, Chip is going after his guy and I say he should do it! All these other holes can be filled with the later picks n FA, Graham goes, Cole goes and you pick up Worilds with his money, Williams goes and you get Maxwell with his money and what little u have to add, all this talk about the sky is falling and it’s gonna set us back is nonsense, one more time fellas, Rams with all that talent they got in the rg3 trade still hasn’t got them to the playoffs, no QB is the reason, rg3 took his team in his first year and the only set back for the skins was their horrible cap situation, had nothing to do with losing those picks, it’s bad when u have no picks plus no cap space, we don’t have those kind of cap issues therefore losing some picks wouldn’t hurt us like it did the Skins so let’s get off that comparison.

mhenski
mhenski
March 1, 2015 10:03 am
Reply to  andrew p

Wilson is kap isn’t. Kap blows.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 1, 2015 11:08 am
Reply to  andrew p

Yeah kap has been figured out…. He will be cut after this year if he doesn’t improve…. SF is in trouble
Running QBs are coming down to earth now that the nfl has caught up…. There was a blip for a few years but it’s all settling back in…cam, Krap are really showing wear and tear and are looking very defensible …

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 1, 2015 11:11 am
Reply to  andrew p

Oh and rg me going to playoffs year one and then horrible 3-13 or something the next two years … Is that acceptable? Really? Forget about the draft picks…do we want to be the freaking raiders of the east?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 1, 2015 9:58 am

Eagles will have to move to 2 because the Titans are going to call philly and say “we’re going to take him – unless you give us _________________”

Eagles will not be able to call they bluff and take the chance of losing Mariotta.

More Eagles rifts?

Roseman yesterday:
“The history of trading up for 1 player, when you look at those trades, isn’t good for the team…”

He’s right.

zilents44
zilents44
March 1, 2015 10:02 am

Hey vinnie what else did he say just dont put down the part you want pilut it all