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Eagles Sign Former Packers LB Brad Jones

BradJones1The Philadelphia Eagles have announced they have signed veteran inside linebacker Brad Jones to a two-year deal.  He had been released by the Packers in February.  It looks like this was an insurance signing by the Packers because of the injury bug which hit the Birds at the inside linebacker position in 2014.  The inside linebackers currently on the roster are Mychal Kendricks, DeMeco Ryans, Najee Goode, and Emmanuel Acho. Casey Matthews is an unrestricted free agent.

Jones lost his starting inside linebacker job with the Packers a year ago, so he’ll need to prove himself.  Obviously, the Eagles like what they saw of him on tape, but he’s not a sure thing.

I think the number one reason they signed Jones is because of the Achilles tendon injury to Ryans.  Ryans has been the leader of the defense during his time here and he’s been outstanding at times, but he’s past 30 and the coaching staff knows many players knew return to effective play after Achilles tendon injuries.  If Ryans can’t return they want to have an inside linebacker on the roster like Jones, who has some experience.

The Eagles have budding star in Kendricks.  He’s healthy and positioned to have a big year.  Kendricks is an outstanding athlete, who is undersized for the position, but I saw him start to recognize plays a split-second quicker a year ago.   What had been broken up passes could very well turn into interceptions this year.

Goode is a solid backup linebacker and Special Teams player.  He has outstanding speed and coverage ability, plus he’s shown the ability to be a dime linebacker, but he’s coming off a torn biceps injury,

Acho is a decent backup and Special teams performer, but not a starter.

Matthews is nothing to right home about.  He hasn’t done anything special during his time with the Birds.

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andrew p
andrew p
March 2, 2015 4:41 pm

This is more of a dept signing at LB, nothing more,, more then likely a pickup more for ST, below is what they wrote about him, doesn’t sound like someone that’s gonna make a dent in our LB rotation

Poor play, highlighted by an excessive amount of penalties and missed tackles, saw Jones go from starter to backup to rarely getting any snaps at all. He did get some playing time near the end of the regular season and in the playoffs as a single linebacker in the team’s dime package.

paulman
paulman
March 2, 2015 4:47 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Then Why bother Andrew P

Brad Jones is the Emergency Replacement for D Ryans who will be released if he Fails a Physical Exam in Mid May .. Eagles will also add an ILB in the Draft, De Meco Ryans NFL Career is about done..

andrew p
andrew p
March 2, 2015 5:28 pm
Reply to  paulman

No Paulman, this guy was picked up as nothing more than a replacement for Casey for STs.

daggolden
daggolden
March 2, 2015 4:49 pm
Reply to  andrew p

So why sign him at all? There are 500 FA players about to be available and the draft and this is best you can find as a insurance policy? A guy benched for poor play and excessive penalties, he will fit right in. lol

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 2, 2015 4:57 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Did they break the bank for him? Big time guaranteed money? It means zero… Don’t over react

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 4:58 pm

Just finished listening to Todd Herreman’s on 97.5 the Fan. When asked if he would trade up for Mariota…he paused, then answered “Yes”. He also stated that he believes Chip will do the deal. He also said he thinks Nick would be better off in another system. Interesting information coming from a former Eagle linemen who played with Nick and knows Kelly.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 2, 2015 5:10 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

That is interesting EHL. Did he say that was his opinion, or did he say he has heard rumblings in the building?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 5:20 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Well obviously Todd saying he would make a splash and take Mariota was his personal feeling, however, when asked about Chip and the QB position he did say he believes Chip would like a more mobile guy…. They are going to replay some of it at 5:45. The way he phrased everything,that is all Todd’s opinion based off his experience with Chip. I do not think he heard rumblings or was privy to inside info though. I just found it interesting because this is a former player who has an understanding of Chip. He also was very respectful of Nick, but said he is better suited for another offensive system….the way he said it made me think that he felt Chip felt that way. You can listen to it yourself and come to your own conclusion.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 2, 2015 5:28 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

This would be the most insightful ‘report’ heard so far this off season… It is the closest to a ‘real’ assessment so far.
We shall see

paulman
paulman
March 2, 2015 5:22 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

He said he heard this from Howie Roseman… Ha

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2015 5:23 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Now thats good news…..great job finding that tidbit ehl

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 2, 2015 6:40 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I listened to the interview as well…the key statement by Herremans’ was that he thinks that Foles would be better off in another system! Here is a guy with no dog in the race…giving an intelligent and balanced perspective!

Make the move! Get Mariota!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 6:45 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

HI LITE THAT FOR VINNY!!! LOL IT IS IN PARAGRAPH 6…NOT 5 LMAO!!!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 2, 2015 5:25 pm

Herremans says, he would do the deal…. but

“I would try to make a splash and go for it,” he said. “If you feel like that’s the one piece that’s missing for you to win a Super Bowl, then go for it. But you have to think about the picks you have to give up for it. You’re basically giving up top picks over the next few years and you could wind up basically depleting your roster. You only do that if you believe it’s the one piece that’s going to complete your team.”

“I think that Nick Foles is a very unique player,” Herremans said. “The one thing you probably don’t know about him and he might not display it all the time is, he’s actually a really good athlete.

“I think he can pull the ball and run it. We’ve seen him do it for 6-10 yards sometimes. Everyone’s like ‘oh my God, we need someone to pull and run with the ball’, but in reality you only need that 2-3 times in a game and you on’t need him to run it 60 yards. That would be nice, but it’s not necessary.”

“I think the type of players that they’re getting in there with the system and Chip having final say on the roster, he’s going to get his players in there to run his offense. Everyone that he gets will be who he wants to run that offense the way he wants to run it. I think they’re going to be very explosive this year. Depending on what happens with Maclin and what happens with Shady [McCoy]. I think the feeling around the building is a good one right now. the winning in Philadelphia is going to continue for a long time.”

Hmmm, that’s not quite the same as saying Foles would be better in a different system… And He thinks Chip will do the deal….

Keep in mind that Herremans was also shocked when he was told that he was cut…. So his feeling on what might happen are not exactly spot on….

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 5:35 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

No its right in there….in the 5th paragraph where he says Chip will do the deal and Foles is better in another system. Its right in front of you. 5th paragraph. How can you not see it?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 5:35 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

LOL, dude, that is not the whole interview, it lasted 10-15 minutes. If you are going to post it, post the whole thing. He clearly states that he believes Nick is better suited for a different system. Once again, checkout the podcast, they will be replaying some of it at 5:45…listen for yourselves.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 2, 2015 6:16 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I just listened to the interview… Sorry EHL, he did say Nick MIGHT be better in a different system.

He never said that he thinks Chip will do the deal. The question was asked, but he never gave an answered to that.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 6:27 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Not a problem Irish. I give you kudos for being man enough to step up and acknowledge that. Like I said, I don’t have an agenda…whatever Chip does…he does. After cutting djax that is just my attitude now.

I will go and listen to it again, I thought he answered the ? regarding Chip at the end saying he thought Chip would.

Vinny, when you want to try and clown someone make sure you have your info straight, if you don’t, you look like the clown!

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
March 2, 2015 8:02 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Got caught lying didn’t you trying to smooth it over with the “Not a problem Irish. I give you kudos for being man enough to step up and acknowledge that”.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 3, 2015 12:00 am
Reply to  Mac Dolo

What are you talking about. If I was lying why would Irish apologize…duhhh???? lmao…reading is fundamental.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 3, 2015 12:03 am
Reply to  Mac Dolo

Why would I lie about something and tell the person where they can get the information from? What sense would that make? Then encourage the gcobbers to listen for themselves..LOL…

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 3, 2015 1:51 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

Stop IrishEagle…I listened to the interview…Herremans was very diplomatic but he made some telling points…after saying the Foles was a good athlete and could probably run for 6-10 yards he suddenly states:
“I think him as a player may benefit a little better from another system…”
and when he was asked directly: “Would you do the deal?” (Getting Mariota) He said:
“I would try to make a splash and go for it…”
What he said matches up with what Tra Thomas’ opinion as well
Nick Foles is better suited to some other offense
EHL is accurate in his description of the interview…he didnt throw Foles under the bus….but its clear that he recognizes Foles limitations in this system…why else would he say that he thinks Foles would be a better player in another system??

Wake up and smell the coffee….Foles doesn’t fit with Chip

Its obvious!!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 5:28 pm

Also listened to Brian Baldinger today, he said that he believes Mariota will slip. Reason being is because he believes the Titans will go defense…I believe they will to. Just read an article today that the Titans are very interested in Shane Ray, I was thinking Leonard Williams. He also said that he is sure Todd Bowles goes defense…cb Trae Waynes as the Jets are in desperate need of corners and that is How Todd Bowles wants to build his team…through the defense….Mariota slips by the Jets…then you make the move.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 5:52 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

SO to believe that….you have to believe the Titans are set on Mettlenburger at QB.

1st season 0-5 59 8td 7ints (look familiar?) Mettenburger. Fine All good.

So you’re a team like Tenny. Going to roll with the young QB who shows promise (not a terrible idea – too bad Eagles fan hates the idea but I digress)

You’re in that situation…..what’s better?

The second pick in the 2015 draft…..or….

The 20th pick, an extra 2nd rounder…an extra 1st and 2nd in 2016 and an extra first in 2017….AND probably a backup/potential starter QB (Foles)

Clearly option 2 is your better choice.

That’s why you are on the phone with Philly and saying. Want Mariota? Pay.

What’s the downside to Tenny doing this? Worst case they draft Mariotta and have an awesome situation at QB. Or they work out a trade with Philly after they pick the guy.

There’s no downside to this.

They have the Eagles and the “all-in for Mariotta” hype machine bent over right now. If I was the Tenny GM I’d be laughing my ass off right now.

Eagles will have to trade into the #2 spot for Mariotta and it will cost a fortune.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 2, 2015 5:57 pm

Vinnie, this is 100% how this is going to go…

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 3, 2015 2:04 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Bull! The Titans would be taking a huge risk to draft Mariota for Wisenhunt’s offense. Wisenhunt’s offense really needs an experience, seasoned veteran QB who excels at reading defenses..like he had in Kurt Warner! Mariota having never played under center in college would need a lot of time to develop. It makes no sense for the Titans to draft Mariota…Winston would be a better choice for the Titans if he is available.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 6:05 pm

I am failing to see how this is my problem. It’s Chip’s call and his tail on the line. Once again, the Eagles regressed this year, I do not see where we are all of a sudden breaking up a Seattle Seahawk type team to get Mariota. Last time I checked, since McNabb left we have not won a playoff game, and all of our first round picks have not been exactly stellar.

As far as Zack Mettenberger, his injury and off the field issue caused him to slip in the draft, not his talent.

andrew p
andrew p
March 2, 2015 5:36 pm

The question should be, who doesn’t think Chips not gonna do the deal? Come on, we’re talking about a situation we never saw before, a college coach who has success in the NFL going after a guy he recruited who can run his system better than anyone who once adapts to the speed of the game will look like a vet considering it would be his 5th season running this system, he has to do it!

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 2, 2015 5:49 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Oh man this Frankenstein’s monster… I guess we all have front row seats.
You all do understand when chip recruited MM to Oregon he had other ‘his kind’ of QBs …he also had offers in to several players for each position..blue chippers all. Then he got to play 7 games a year against the Washington states of the world… I hope you all see this

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 5:56 pm
Reply to  andrew p

I think hes going to do it. And I think its going to be a disaster like it always is.

mhenski
mhenski
March 2, 2015 6:00 pm

rumors circulating that maclin isn’t signed because chip couldn’t figure out how to use the contract computer software. Chip asked Howie to show him but Howie said he was to busy doing an offseason medical supplies inventory check.

I’m also hearing Howie never was fired and was instead promoted because he found out the ingrediants chip puts in his smoothies and used it to blackmail chip

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 2, 2015 6:20 pm

I think Chip will try to do a deal too. In fact, I’m beginning to think about how the offense will look with Mariota.

I hope Chip don’t do the deal, but I totally think he will try.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 6:30 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

That is all I am saying. I do not know if he will get it done as there are a lot of variables involved, but, I too think he will definitely try…and try hard!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 6:48 pm

Just watched Curtis Conway on Path to the Draft complete his mock. He had the Titans taking Leonard Williams, and the Jets taking Trae Waynes…hmmmm, where have I seen that before? Oh that’s right, I said the exact same thing!

paulman
paulman
March 2, 2015 8:46 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I like Conway… Where did he have Mariota landing ?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 11:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

#10…Rams.

daggolden
daggolden
March 2, 2015 7:03 pm

From PFT earlier today.

It’s been a strange offseason for the Eagles. And it just got a little stranger.

In January, owner Jeffrey Lurie resolved a power struggle between coach Chip Kelly and G.M. Howie Roseman by giving Kelly more power and Roseman a promotion (possibly after clunking their heads together like Moe Howard). Roseman emerged not as the G.M. but as the executive V.P. of football operations. Although Kelly now has final say over the roster and the draft, Roseman manages the team’s salary cap and contract negotiations.

It has the potential to be awkward, with new V.P. of player personnel Ed Marynowitz necessarily serving as the liaison between Kelly and Roseman. At a minimum, it will involve more walking.

According to Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer, the office of the executive V.P. of football operations has moved out of football operations, to the business end of the NovaCare Complex. Roseman previously was located only two doors down from the head coach; Kelly for the last two years and Andy Reid before that.

The move underscores the reality that the executive V.P. of football operations doesn’t really have much if any power over football operations. Which makes his comments from last week regarding the folly of trading up even more conspicuous, especially if the guy who now has the power to do so in Philly chooses to do so.

daggolden
daggolden
March 2, 2015 7:09 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Should of just got rid of Roseman. No matter what anyone says Roseman is human and is bitter. Human nature is to not help the guy who demoted you and took your job. How can he possibly do contracts and do his best for the team? Its just not possible. He could sabotage negotiations with FA, He could not try as hard to make it work. Why would he try to make Chip look good and succeed? Its not a good situation.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 2, 2015 11:43 pm
Reply to  daggolden

I agree…if Roseman wants to be a General Manager that makes football decisions I dont understand why he has accepted the demotion…why not just resign? Anyone business grad with math skills can manage the salary cap…I dont understand the move at all from Howie’s standpoint

andrew p
andrew p
March 2, 2015 7:18 pm

Guys, go look at the last few posts, I’ve been saying for weeks Howie has to go, that interview yesterday was a total undermine move, if Chip trades up n it doesn’t work Howie tries to look like they should of listened to him, he makes it look like he’s the smarter one, this guy is a cancer, he’s the last of the Reid- Banner regime and moving him to another floor or building isn’t far enough, just cut ties with him already.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 7:29 pm
Reply to  andrew p

I am wondering how long ago the idea to move his office was planned, and why was it just executed?

andrew p
andrew p
March 2, 2015 7:47 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

E, isn’t it funny they moved his office AFTER that interview yesterday?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 7:52 pm
Reply to  andrew p

I know, it is quite a coincidence.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 2, 2015 7:39 pm
Reply to  andrew p

If Chip trades up to get Mariota and it doesn’t work, Howie will be the least of Chip’s worries.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 7:48 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

He will have 3 years to prove it.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 2, 2015 10:34 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Let’s hope we have some picks left for year 2 and 3.

One thing that Herremans said that I found interesting was that Chip values the QB position, but thinks his system will overcome weakness at other positions. If that’s true it’s kinda scary.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 10:43 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

That is not a novel or unique concept. Reid was the same way.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 2, 2015 11:13 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

How was Reid like that? Because he didn’t value LBs?

Don’t say he didn’t value WRs because Reid drafted more WRs than any other position other than DB. He just was not very good at drafting good ones, but he tried.

The star players on this team are still all Reid players.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 11:18 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Please…for the longest Reid ignored the wr position and other positions. He did not start to come around until after he saw what a talent like TO….then later djax could do.
Chip is not ignoring other positions…he addresses them…he just may be picking some of the wrong guys talent wise.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 7:49 pm

I really hope this does NOT happen. Imagine bear cupboards and a broken QB with a failed HC Back in College…Worst Case Scenario.

I am biased though because I have been waiting for decades for a pure pocket passer and because I am an Eagles fan I get one just as we get this HC.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 7:52 pm

Can we get wis from Tn for chip and their 2nd this year and 1st next year. It would be better than any deal to get mm. I am not a wis fan but i would live with him and picks

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 7:57 pm

If I am maclin I do not resign without assurances that Foles is back. Not when other situations with veteran QB’s are out there.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 8:04 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

agreed.

daggolden
daggolden
March 2, 2015 8:08 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

I guess the logic is if Nick Foles and Mark Sanchez can virtually walk of the street with no knowledge of Chips offense and put up historic numbers for this franchise just imagine a QB who actually knows the offense and can actually run the whole playbook. Isnt it that simple? I guess we cant really use the running QB getting hurt excuse because the pocket passer has been hurt every year 3 years and counting. I just don’t . Then you have Sanchez who never in his life ran this offense come right in and actually do ok for a backup. I cant imagine Sanchez having a better skill set then Mariotta he cant even throw the ball 20 yards or run. So logic says it has to work . lol I just don’t know.

andrew p
andrew p
March 2, 2015 8:19 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Yes Dagg, it is that simple! look at rg3, Shanahan played to his strenghts and the guy lit it up his first year, rookie of the year,,playoffs, couldn’t ask for anything more, if the guy doesn’t get hurt no one is saying anything negative about it, now imagine MM coming into a system he’s been running for four years playing for his former coach? The odds of it working is far greater then it not working.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 8:27 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Foolish. Shanahan made a QB he was forced to take by his owner work at a level he was not prepared to play at. He caught a Eagles team with a coach that was too long and a pass happy red headed step coach in Dallas, while the Giants licked to wounds of OL oblivion.

the Jaguars could have won the nfc east that year.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 8:38 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Y. “played to his strengths” That was exactly the problem.

Shanahan installed RGIIIs college o just for him (which I told you all was a mistake at the time and would kill his career) Shanahan ran his college offense and had him folded like a wet-nap. Broken into soo many pieces, his career is finished.

Offenses that feature running QBs always fail long term.

“couldn’t ask for anything more”???????????? When you give up 3 firsts and 2 seconds, I figure you’re asking for a little more than 2/3rds of one good season.

RGIII trade was a disaster for the Skins.

andrew p
andrew p
March 2, 2015 8:58 pm

You couldn’t find one person with any football knowledge that would say it was a disaster during that season, only thing that stopped them were injuries to major players n the bad cap situation they were in, all your posts show your obviously not for it but if it’s done your way and we don’t get the QB he needs to open up that playbook, it will take years n years if at all to get to the next level, if u think Foles or Sanchez at QB with a beefed up secondary and some other holes filled is the answer then your delusional, don’t believe me, see the Rams.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 9:07 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Foles is far better than Sam Bradford. Sanchez is a career back up.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 9:11 pm
Reply to  andrew p

The only part of the offence that he “opens up” is the QB running part. And that part is stupid.

You know who runs the RO? Me. I use it all the time with the 14-14 year old girls touch team I coach. Its fantastic. I get those rushers running left and right and all over the place. Breaking ankles till they’re exhausted.

Its awesome for 14 year old girls touch football. Pretty good against the Alcorn state’s of the world too.

Against the pros? Its a planted QB every 5 plays.

I didn’t realize the Rams have a qb who went 15-9 with 46 tds and 17 ints over his first 24 starts. If they did, they’d be rolling with that D.

You need a franchise QB. No one is arguing that.

Paying 3 firsts, 2 seconds and a player for a chance at one is idiotic.

If Mariotta was the hero, then the Eagles should have traded Foles last offseason coming off 27-2, started Barkley and gone 3-13 and taking the damn saviour without crushing the team’s depth for the next 5 years.

At the very least they shouldn’t have been calling punt rushes in the final meaningless game.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 3, 2015 4:32 am
Reply to  andrew p

That’s a good point.

It would be as if MM is in his 5th year opposed to a rookie learning a new playbook transitioning into the NFL.

Marcus Mariota just fits right for the Eagles….

We knew this was a possibility when Chip was hired, so it won’t surprise anyone “when” Chip get’s his guy.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 7:53 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

oh man you just can’t make this stupidity up– it just comes natural to some people..
ok as for MM and his ‘5th year”- please understand that chips pro offense is entirely different than the Oregon playbook– Huff was quoted last year as saying he had zero advantage because it was so different- was one of the factors for his not getting on the field much-
also, by this twisted logic all qb’s from a pro style offense should not have a learning curve coming into the nfl
finally, you do realize that the worst defense in the nfl is 100 times better than the best college defense…ugh!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 2, 2015 10:54 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Foles and Sanchez have played in a sophisticated west coast passing offense like Pat Shurmur has installed to supplement Chip Kelly’s playbook.

Marcus Mariota ran Kelly’s college offense. He has never played in the offense that the Eagles run.

Maybe Mariota will pickup the Eagles offense and learn to recognize NFL coverages quickly. Maybe he won’t…. But he damn sure doesn’t know the Eagles offense better than Foles.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 11:29 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

He does not have to as he has not been exposed to it. Chip can alter it. Mariota has the football acuity, and athleticism to execute the offense. # Stop being scared.
It would be different if we would have gotten into the playoffs and won one playoff game any of the 3 years Nick has played.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 3, 2015 12:28 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

EHL – You have no idea if Mariota can execute an NFL offense, nobody does.

My comment was in response to Dag’s remarks:

I guess the logic is if Nick Foles and Mark Sanchez can virtually walk of the street with no knowledge of Chips offense and put up historic numbers for this franchise just imagine a QB who actually knows the offense and can actually run the whole playbook. Isnt it that simple?

No it’s not that simple…. Foles and Sanchez were running WCO passing plays that Mariota never saw… The were seeing coverages that they were accustom to seeing… Mariota has yet to see an NFL defense.

Mariota’s knowledge of Kelly’s college offense is not going to help him as much as many people think. Not unless the Eagles eliminate timed passing routs, and start playing Stanford and UCLA’s defense.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 3, 2015 9:52 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

IrishEagle- You hyave no idea if Mariota’s knowledge of Kelly’s college offense is going to help him as you do not know how Kelly would tweek his offense and adjust it to fit Mariota when he gets in the NFL. So…if you are going to say I can’t speak in absolutes about what Mariota will be able to do, you can’t speak in absolutes about what he will not. It is my opinion that Mariota would perform better..I can say that for certain.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 8:14 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

OH GOD…seriously? Maclin just wants his money…after that everything else will fall into place. Really grabbing for straws of desperation. That would be selfish of him…not buying into Chip’s culture. You guys knocked Djax for a selfish attitude..but want Maclin to be selfish so that you can have Foles as the QB….AGENDA!!!! If Mac came at Chip like that he would say goodbye to him quickly.

Just a pathetic attempt at a strong arm tactic that would fail miserably. lmao!!!

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 8:15 pm

I guess you trade half to three quarters of the next three years team in order to get a “system” QB that may not work with any other coach and take a chance chip stays through the catastrophe he causes with the trade. Enjoy it when he pulls the cord and parachutes out after the Texans win the sb with Foles and we have no line so Mariota is rehabbing his 3rd ACL

daggolden
daggolden
March 2, 2015 8:17 pm

This is one time in my years of watching sports that I really don’t (think I know) which is the right way of doing this. Staying with Foles and building the team or going all in for a QB that fits Chips system even if it means giving up assets. I honestly will be ok either way.

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2015 9:11 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Im with you dagg at this point i cool whatever chip picks foles or mariota

Stevo
Stevo
March 2, 2015 9:19 pm
Reply to  zilents44

yup. bingo!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 8:33 pm

Here’s a question.

What are the odds Mariotta is 15-9 over his first 24 starts? I figure about 20% (and that’s not even counting 14-4 under Kelly….can anyone honestly believe Mariotta can improve on that????

I doubt many impartial observers would believe that could happen.

What are the odds Mariotta throws 46 tds and 17 ints over his first 24 starts? I figure about 0%

No one can possibly think any new QB is going to do that.

So……..Its going to be pretty darn impossible to improve on the W-L record. Its going to be completely impossible to improve on 46-17 TD-Int.

So for the privilege of a new QB who will not go 14-4, nor approach 46-17, the Eagles are going to give up 3 firsts, a couple seconds, and probably the guy who went 14-4 46-17.

F-ing good times.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 8:45 pm

but he threw off his back foot……

And when crapernick throws while falling backwards he is brilliant cause he kisses his gunnnnnsssss

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2015 8:50 pm

Calm down vinnie hopefullt tenny takes mm and we can never speak of this terrible qb ever again. go foles all day….lol

andrew p
andrew p
March 2, 2015 9:06 pm

Didn’t see any stats about him running for any first downs or scaring teams with the option of running like Wilson does for Seattle, you gonna try to say that doesn’t make a difference? Teams don’t have to game plan for that? Teams having to use a player to spy the QB, having that option is as important as having Djax on the outside n a safety having to play deep, Foles only asset to us is if the Rams really want him n take him with our 20 for their 10

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 9:11 pm
Reply to  andrew p

A QB is supposed to THROW for 1st downs. running backs run. research the NFL. I was fooled by Randel and Vick and McNabb for far too long. give me a pocket passer a good ol and a WR and rb that are specialists and stack the wins. gotta fix our D.

Stevo
Stevo
March 2, 2015 8:45 pm

You guys kill me……..

When all they did was throw throw throw…. Bombs away…. we all (except one) cried for them to run the damn ball.

When the coach would not… we wanted his head…… finally… we got it.

Now we have a coach that wants to run the ball and has a plan to bring balance to the O….. WE HAVE IT…. AND 20 wins!!!! And you want his head? You want to trade him for another coach? Silly… and stupid.

I didnt want Chip. I said that at the start but I love it… I love what he brings. I was wrong. I dont think he wants a QB who can run run run. And I do think Foles does just fine… but Im not in practice.. I dont know what Chip wants to do fully. The guy has won 20 games with a QB he seems to not want.

I dont care what he does at QB. Foles is fine by me. But…. there is no reason for me to NOT trust what the coach is doing. Things I wonder…… Does Shady dance too much IN THIS SYSTEM? Does Shady cost too much?? Do we really do ourselves a favor by spending nearly 20 million on RB?

I dont want to see them give up the farm for 1 player but IF…. IF…. IF…. they were to land the kind of QB that would bring us a solid future…. why not?

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 8:47 pm
Reply to  Stevo

The trade chip part of me is only if he just can’t help himself and wants to trade Way, Way, too much for one swinging dick.

Stevo
Stevo
March 2, 2015 8:56 pm
Reply to  Stevo

purpose of bringing up shady is because of all the trade talk surrounding Foles/Shady….

Final though…. Seems to me that the birds are stacking all the money they can to get what they want…. I am praying that it is for a CB and SS that can flipping ball!! When one on here cried that an elite QB “fixes the secondary”, I disagreed….. we need a D. A dominant.. press D. We may be getting that!!! IF its a new QB that fits the system better….. fine.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 8:59 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Well what do you mean?

There’s only one reason for wanting to have a running QB.

To run the QB. That never works long term.

Look, While I do not think Mariotta is going to come in here and going better than 14-4 or tossing 40tds to 2 ints (Foles under Kelly)…its probably accurate to say that Mariotta is the better option to run the “Full” offence (the “full” part being the QB running part – which I hate).

But at what price?

There’s no way Mariotta is improving on 14-4 and 40-12….so…….

Eagles going to give up 3 firsts, 2 seconds and probably Foles for what exactly?

60 rushing yards a game?

Sounds like a fantastic idea.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 9:02 pm

40 to 12

daggolden
daggolden
March 2, 2015 9:21 pm

Marriota is 14-4 if he has the opportunity to play a bad Dallas, Wash, Giant, Raiders etcetc teams from 2 years ago. Sure. But if he has to play Seattle, NE, Denver etc then no he wont be 14-4. Its kinda unfair to compare W-L against teams 2 years ago vs teams moving forward especially when 80% of those wins came against teams with losing records..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 9:27 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Sorry. I forgot. Foles is the luckiest QB on Earth and has only ever had to start against bad teams.

Lucky guy.

And if Mariotta goes a typical 6-10, well….what an unlucky guy right?

daggolden
daggolden
March 2, 2015 9:35 pm

Its a factor. Im not saying its Foles fault but its a factor.that cant be ignored. He wasn’t lucky he did a good job vs them teams. But to just say this is one guys record and this is another guys record isn’t fair. Its like me saying the Milwaukee Bucks have a better record than the Spurs so they are better. Nooo. The Bucks play weak teams while the Spurs play in the loaded west. The Bucks aren’t better I don’t care what the record says.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 2, 2015 9:28 pm
Reply to  daggolden

you can only play who is on the schedule…
marriotta must win at least 10 games and a playoff game. that was the expectation on here from a famous mariotta blogger

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2015 9:37 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

The one thing that no one is talking about that really matters to me…..marcus mariotta shows no emotion on the field….with him coming to a fan base like philly not sure he could handle that

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 1:24 pm
Reply to  daggolden

funny– already building in excuses–unbelievable…

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 1:36 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Are you referring to my post hac about mariota not having emotion or someone else

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 1:41 pm
Reply to  zilents44

no- i could care less about emotion– if MM is the kind of guy that has a steady heartbeat when bodies are flying and the score is tight i’m ok with that!
i was referring to someone saying that his schedule may be too hard for him to put up a winning record…. if they go all in for MM there is no excuses, i’ve been told on this site, time to win some playoff games– absolutely no back tracking!

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 3, 2015 1:48 pm
Reply to  zilents44

They wouldn’t be trading up for Mariota to win 5 years from now, just like the idiotic thinking that Marcus Smith was drafted in the first round last year not to play. You won’t hear any excuses from Chip if they trade up and go backwards just like we heard no excuses this year for going backwards.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 1:50 pm
Reply to  zilents44

K and when i say emotion i mean command a huddle and get in his players shit when they fuck up

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 1:56 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Z- remember at the combine the ‘biggest concern with MM was that he didn’t know how to huddle’ – so command of the ‘huddle is not an issue! LOL–
and if they give up 100 drafts to get him then just by presence alone he will be able to give shit if he wants– nothing would confirm — you da man more!

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 1:57 pm
Reply to  zilents44

big- when everyone of theese guys is out of philly i want to read the whole story on marcus smith…. there was more back biting, back stabbing and double talk than i’ve ever heard… i really want to know.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 2:10 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Yea i remember that hac we will see….i dont know i just like my qb being vocal on the field…..when you think of qb i think general….and they are pretty vocal

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 3, 2015 2:22 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I agree Cigar, right now nobody wants to claim the kid, of course if he turns into an all pro they’ll be fighting for credit. Lol

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 9:29 pm

Those stats are nice but, last season 13TD’s, 10 ints 4 fumbles. No playoff wins. And most important Nick keeps going down. The best ability is availability. No one wants to talk about the injury factor….just ignore it like it does not exist. But speculate about Mariota getting injured. If he is smart he will play like Wilson and run out of bounds and slide.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 9:36 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

So Mariotta is Wilson now?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 9:43 pm

Can you not read, did I say he was Wilson? I said if he (Mariota) is smart he will play like Wilson and run out of bounds and slide. Not to difficult to manage, execute or understand. Kaep, Newton, because of their physicality they try to run through players and initiate contact at times when on the run. Vick did the same, hence their injuries. Wilson does not do this, that is why he stays off of the injury list. Who has been injured more the last three seasons…Foles or Wilson? Rhetorical question we know the answer.

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2015 9:47 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Lol

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 2, 2015 10:52 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Too funny, damn Vinnie are you kin to Foles? Damn you are sickening dude. I think Foles can be even more successful if he gets to play in a pro style offense, yes he’s been successful running the offense as is but do we get the 2013 version or the injury shortened 2014 version? I don’t think Kelly wants to wait around to find out.

Stevo
Stevo
March 2, 2015 9:16 pm

I will go on record as saying that i have seen little of MM play. But…. I have heard Chip talk about his SMARTS….. WAYYYYYYY more than talk about his legs.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 3, 2015 12:02 am
Reply to  Stevo

Stevo you kill me…stop it. Shady has been one of the most productive RB in the league. No one with half a brain can ignore the obvious right now…Foles just doesn’t fit and the Coach doesn’t believe he is a franchise QB that can take the team to the big dance.
If he believed in Foles he would sign the guy to a long term contract, and make it clear like every other Coach does when they have the QB they believe…He would say…”Nick Foles is our future, we believe in him”
Then they would follow it up by signing him to a long term deal..and keep the draft picks for other areas.
Its obvious that they dont believe in the QB
Its simple. He has won 20 games in spite of Foles…he sees the flaws, he saw the turnovers, he sees a guy who is too slow both physically and mentally.
Give attention to the qualities that he praised about Mariota…he is quick both physically AND mentally.
This is important to Chip and this is why from all indications the Eagles are going all in to get the guy.
We have gone on and on about this QB situation…unless Chip Kelly gets fired we are going to run his system…
Lets accept the facts…Foles is done, its obvious the Coach doesn’t believe in him…trade him for whatever we can get and lets move on…better to do it quickly than to leave him twisting in the wind.
Chip has to get his QB…bottom line…and its obvious…his QB is NOT Nick Foles!

Stevo
Stevo
March 2, 2015 9:15 pm

Not that it matters but lets look at our starting qbs over the years and see what happened….

McNabb- balanced… not injured a ton.
Kolb- Statue… killed back there.
Vick- Run- Killed
Foles- Statue- Killed

Yup. Clearly…. only the runners are beat up.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 9:20 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Best and most successful QB of the bunch…#5 will always love you!

Stevo
Stevo
March 2, 2015 9:27 pm

I love watching Vinnie get all flipped out over this…. it just makes me laugh.

Its not JUST about the QB run that opens it up….. see.. this is why I call you simple…. you just dont understand the game!!

I am not “all in for MM’ so please dont look at this as POM POM waving… just showing what Chip MAY be thinking…..

Pretty sure MM’s arm is stronger.. are we even debating this anymore?
Chip LOVES MM’s smarts…. his ability to read the plays. Foles was BBBAAADDD at this as a rookie (who isnt) He was good at this after he took the starting job…. Foles was BAADDDD at this last year. SO….. hmmm… we dont know.

If MM can possibly run out the back side for a few yards it KEEPS the D’s HONEST!! This is what Foles cannot do. Sure…. he may get a few here or there but he does not scare anyone at all. ever. DO you understand what this could do for the eagles? They are fast….. and big. Could you imagine the threat of a long pass down field… or a quick strike on a pop pass…. or a McCoy running the sweep… or a MM running off the back end? All of this is opened up for us.

Now listen… I like what I had seen in Foles 2 seasons ago. I did. But I didnt like watching teams bring 8 or 9 up to the box and Foles fail miserably. So again…… im fine if they keep Foles. But If Chip has another plan…… lets do it.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 9:31 pm
Reply to  Stevo

get an option other than cooper at the 2 and see the safety back off.

Stevo
Stevo
March 2, 2015 9:51 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

No. Listen… Im with ya on Cooper sucking last year but Foles missed wide open wrs last year. Don’t sugar coat this.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 3, 2015 12:11 am
Reply to  Stevo

Every QB misses receivers. but through the first few weeks even in a down year Foles was a top passer in ypg. We don’t know the reads he was supposed to make so we can’t really know. I happen to believe in the kid.

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 2, 2015 10:55 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

You mean like Djax? Hahahahaha.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 11:00 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

a speed guy one trick pony you get in the 3rd round and don’t over pay…yes…Djax…no

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 2, 2015 11:08 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Because you can always find a one trick pony in round 3, but wait wasn’t that where they drafted Huff, better be a two trick pony because if he can’t block he won’t be here remember?

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 2, 2015 11:25 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

hated the huff selection. The kid that burnt us in the end for the cards should have been an eagle instead. for that matter the safety D. Buchanan sp should have been our pick instead of MSII.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2015 9:32 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Yes I understand what this can do. This can get Mariotta planted 6-7 more times a game than he need to.

This will get him beat to shit. This will reduce his effectiveness late in games. This will reduce his effectiveness as the season rolls along, and finally this will get him hurt more than pocket Qbs get hurt.

All QBs get hurt. Running QBs get hurt more….and their effectiveness drops late in games.

Its a stupid idea.

8-9 in the box wouldn’t have meant anything if those 8 guys hadn’t been pushing some guy named Mold 5 yards into the backfield every 2nd play.

But hay….doesn’t matter right? So in 3 years when Mariotta’s left side is manned by 2 turnstile 5th rounders, we’ll see how much it matters to you.

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2015 9:41 pm

Dude vinnie you really hate running qbs….damn man maybe mariota can slide and not take those hits

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 2, 2015 9:50 pm
Reply to  zilents44

slide and not take those hits…that’s the first rule of thumb. Damn…Vinny sounds like those Bible thumping prophecy dooms day nuts on the street yelling “REPENT OR GO TO HELL”
15-9…. 27-2, still no play off wins so wtf.

Stevo
Stevo
March 2, 2015 10:05 pm

You can’t use the OL as an excuse vinnie remember?…. “great qbs overcome that and make the oline better”…. The fact remains… Foles HD a chance to silence this conversation… And instead he played like crap.. Then got injured… Again.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 3, 2015 9:49 am

Foles has been hurt every year he has played….he is getting doesn’t have the pocket awareness and quickness to effectively avoid pressure.

He’s injury prone

This renders your argument completely worthless

mhenski
mhenski
March 3, 2015 9:56 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

he is getting doesn’t have the pocket awareness and quickness to effectively avoid pressure.

GOOD POINT!

daggolden
daggolden
March 2, 2015 9:30 pm

Can anyone name me one elite team this franchise has beaten in the last 10 years? One juggernaut this team has knocked off. I really cant name one. AR got tore up in the AFC. Chip I guess you can say Indy(with a very fortunate non-call) or Dallas with Sanchez has to be his claim to fame thus far. This franchise just doesn’t beat great teams and hasn’t for years. Oh and don’t count GB w/o Rogers please.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 2, 2015 11:59 pm
Reply to  daggolden

You can say that about allot of winning teams Dag. Outside teams that win the Bowl that’s pretty much every playoff team

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 3, 2015 12:34 am

Jerry Hughes will set the pass rusher market and affect B. Graham…if the Eagles are even thinking about signing Graham throw that money at Hughes who is better.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 3, 2015 7:34 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

How is Hughes better he spent 2 yrs with the Colts and did nothing then all of a sudden he goes to buffalo and plays with Mario Williams and thst great D line then he puts up 10 sacks back to back yrs I’m not buying it.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 3, 2015 8:08 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

He spent 2 years with the Colts so stop acting like it was a 5 year career lol. First year was in the 4-3 second year in a switch to 3-4 were he wasn’t a primary pass rusher.

Goes to Buffalo silk they ask him to do is pass rush be Mario Williams back up first year…

Back to back 10 sack seasons I believe.

He’s better than Graham.

I didn’t include Hardy because who knows how teams view his woman beating ass.

daggolden
daggolden
March 3, 2015 6:20 am

Ok OK Ive come up with a compromise to appease both sides of the QB argument. This is what the Eagles should do. First resign Maclin. Then have Howie make it work and go out and get Maxwell and go all in for the Patriots McCorty. Then the Eagles don’t trade up in the draft unless Mariotta drops past the Jets and still is on the board going into the 10th pick with the Rams. If he drops to 10 you move up and get him. Then you have Mariotta, with Maxwell, McCourty, Jenkins and Carey Williams. If Mariotta is taken and Trae Waynes is on the board at 10 you move up and take him. Then you have McCourty, Maxwell Waynes and Malcolm Jenkins in your secondary with Foles moving forward.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 3, 2015 8:21 am
Reply to  daggolden

Great ideas. Completely acceptable.

I see no way Tennessee allows this to happen. Their GM is laughing about the position he has the Eagles in.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 8:32 am

You really think tennesee will take mm just to fuck with us…..they have holes every fucking where they aint got time to worry about us

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 8:48 am
Reply to  zilents44

Sources in Nashville say that Titans Coach Ken Wisenhut has very little interest in QB Mariota as he feels that Mariota need 2 Years to adjust as a POcket QB which Wisenhut doesn’t have and already has young QB Zac Metzenberger who is better suited as a Pocket QB than Mariota is..
They are going DT Leonard Williams the whole way from most Sources who cover this Team

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 8:51 am
Reply to  paulman

I believe that 100 percent pman….i truly believe he falls to ten…..if he does chip gonna bust that move

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 8:59 am
Reply to  paulman

paul as a draft nerd you do realize that anything anyone is saying now is not information its ‘disinformation’– everyone is blowing smoke at this point- any team that makes its intentions known, especially at 2 would be complete idiots- these sources mean nothing.

paulman
paulman
March 6, 2015 12:00 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Yes most of the stuff coming out is all noise and distractions, I look at Wisenhut’s background and style of Offense and he has stated himself even back to his Arizona Days that he prefers Pocket QB’s in the Traditional Drop-back style as opposed to scramblers? It’s just not the Style he runs and if he goes down and has a bad season again and gets fired, I am sure it’s going tone running the style of Offense that he’s comfortable with and not change at this stage of his CAreer
Bottom line, Marcus Mariota simply does not fit a Ken Wisenhut’s/Titans Offense

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 9:02 am
Reply to  zilents44

they have holeS to fill and according to everyone except chip the eagles want MM…. so Tennessee is sitting there saying hmmm chip, lets see you know we have holes to fill so we will take hmmm lets see how bout foles (files our qb hole), your pick at 20 (fills a defensive hole or o.line), your 2nd (files some LB or secondary hole/depth)…. and that’s where we can start—

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 9:03 am
Reply to  haveacigar

‘fills’ got autocorrected to ‘files’– lol

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 3, 2015 10:40 am
Reply to  zilents44

Lol.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 3, 2015 10:12 am
Reply to  daggolden

It just wont work daggolden!

Chip Kelly doesn’t believe in Nick Foles

You cant compromise at the QB position

You have to get a QB in this draft and move on from Foles

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 11:17 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

that should read ‘hot air doesn’t believe in foles’- because kelly has said no such thing in action or in words….

daggolden
daggolden
March 3, 2015 6:30 am

Also I hope with Chip being in charge he goes to Jeffrey Lurie and tells him we are changing our philosophy. I understand and appreciate the cap magic this franchise has used for the last 18-20 years but guess what it doesn’t work. Saving money to sign our young players has netted this franchise 0 SB while the NE Patriots of the world spend up to the cap and cut players that are productive. But guess what they are winning Superbowls. The hell with saving money. If we need to cut players and sacrifice for opportunities to win now so be it. Our philosophy hasn’t worked. Somehow someway the Broncos and Patriots etc find a way.

daggolden
daggolden
March 3, 2015 6:43 am
Reply to  daggolden

A prime example is if we had NE roster there is noway we would of signed Revis we would of been to worried about resigning McCourty this year and saving money for him. NE doesn’t care. They won there SB and will replace McCourty. While the Eagles worry about the cap and resigning there players like they cant be replaced.

andrew p
andrew p
March 3, 2015 8:25 am
Reply to  daggolden

Dagg, you don’t know if Chip worries about the cap the way Howie did, remember, Chip is good friends with Belicheck n they learn from each other, he might take a page from him n go all in on guys n areas he wants addressed n not worry about the cap, that would be a nice change wouldn’t it?

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 9:20 am
Reply to  andrew p

Belechek cares about having a Good Defense and understands it’s importance to Winning Playoff Games & Championships
Chip Kelly does not know how to go about building a Good Defense
this is why Chip Kellyl will never Win at the NFL Level
You can win every Season at the College Offense with a Good Offense
but this won’t get you very far in the NFL (Go Ask Steve Spurrier)

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 9:25 am
Reply to  paulman

bellichiks record his first three years was 20-28 and I think he was fired twice– so stop the sky is falling forcast!

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 9:28 am
Reply to  paulman

first 6 years 41-55 with 1 playoff win. hilarious!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 3, 2015 8:09 am

Do whatever you can to get McCourty. I wasn’t no part of Maxwell.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 8:35 am

Free agency should go like this…..culliver,house,mccourty,woirldss,franklin,locker and boom thats it

mhenski
mhenski
March 3, 2015 9:55 am
Reply to  zilents44

Revis could hit the market

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 8:36 am

***Trade Rumors****

Eagles Trade QB Nick Foles & CB B Boykins to the Texans for
WR Andre Johnson and a Flip Flop of their 1st Round Picks so the Eagles now have #16 Pick and the Texans get # 20th PIck..The Eagles also get the Texans 4th Round PIck (Approx #120th Selection) giving the Eagles 3 Selections in the 4th Round

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 3, 2015 10:59 am

I don’t see,how that trade benefits the eagles.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 11:18 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

its just fraud being a fraud…

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 11:19 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

It gets the Eagles Before the Brown at #19 who are also looking for a QB
I am thinking ahead here in case the Eagles need to secure QB Brent Huntley so that the Browns don’t grab him so the Eagles at least have another QB that Chip Kelly Likes in the event Mariota is long gone..
If Eagles have to settle for Huntley, then expect Kelly to resign QB Mark Sanchez to Start the 2015 Season as the #1 QB

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 11:22 am
Reply to  paulman

paul is off his meds today– someone slip his script into his tea this morning– my man is walking around boone in a dirty robe, slippers, hair disheveled and mumbling inchoherently about draft day….

daggolden
daggolden
March 3, 2015 12:22 pm

Eagles release Carey Williams. This means the Eagles are going for it. All in.

mhenski
mhenski
March 3, 2015 12:32 pm
Reply to  daggolden

lmfao no it doesnt it means they are cutting an overpaid cunt who cant play for shit and has a cunty attitude.

good riddance

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 3, 2015 12:36 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Agreed.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 12:55 pm
Reply to  mhenski

The only move that would prove that eagles are going all in is if we traded foles right now for a draft pick…and you could still question that if it was a all in mariota move

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 2:10 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Means nothing getting rid of Cary Williams other than a Turd who sucked and was not worth $9 Million Salary and then has the balls to call out Chip Kelly and stating his Practices the Players too Hard when they were 3-0 Early last Season and things were going well… F this Loser, Kelly should have Cut his Ass last September if you ask me .. Good Riddance…

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 3, 2015 12:59 pm

If the Eagles aggressively pursue defenders during free agency then you can pretty much predict they’ll trade up for Mariota and with the remaining picks they keep address the age in the oline, they will probably look for a starting guard in free agency as well.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 1:05 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

It does lead to more speculation but not 100

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 3, 2015 1:27 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Yeah Z, nothing is 100 with this team we’ll just sit back and watch.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2015 1:13 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

not sure that is a direct correlation at all–
they get 3 defenders in FA….they just cut 3 starters and they have real depth issues at LB and secondary… so ….
hey but like i said lets go all in for MM– it will either prove chips genius or arrogance…maybe both…

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 1:56 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Free-Agency to Rebuild the Secondary and Upgrade the LB & WR Corps.
Draft Used to Rebuild OL, and add Young Talent to Secondary,WR & RB Corps

At least this is what I hope Chip Kelly does for the Eagles Roster

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 3, 2015 2:34 pm

I don’t read anything into the Williams move at all.

No team in the league is going to roll that guy onto the field at $9mil. Every team in the league would have made the exact same cut.

Except maybe Washington.

mhenski
mhenski
March 3, 2015 2:41 pm

this move does prove chip will do what every single eagles fan has been begging for him to do…

so as it stands we have 0 corner backs that can start ( although it wouldnt shock me at all if this guy rolls with watkins and carrol…) we have an open spot at safety. we need a mlb (cant count on ryans ), we have no wr#1. AND SOME BLOCKHEADS THINK WE ARE GONNA MOVE FROM #20 TO #2 HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 2:50 pm

Herremans, Casey, Williams, Fletcher, Matthews down. Ryans, to be released. Cole, Shady, to be restructured. Graham & Maclin are goners, due to being overpaid. Jones better be just a depth, ST’s signing, or it is unacceptable.
Due to money, past interest, coaching hires, & the culture BS, I see FA going this way next week-
OLB Worilds, S Raheem Moore, CB’s Chris Culliver, Davon House, ILB Michael Wilhoite, OG Clint Boling, QB Jake Locker.

Draft-
1st- CB/S Jalen Collins.
2nd- G Laken Tomlinson.
3rd- ILB Benardrick McKinney.
4th(1)- CB Eric Rowe.
4th(2)- Geneo Grissom.
5th-7th- Depth.

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 2:52 pm
Reply to  DCar

WR- Torrey Smith instead of Maclin.

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 2:57 pm
Reply to  DCar

BTW, FUCK Mariotta, & all his ball slurpers!

mhenski
mhenski
March 3, 2015 2:57 pm
Reply to  DCar

sup car? we gotta cut cole str8 up if we are signing worilds right? i like ur plan but signing all those guys will make it difficult to sign cox kendricks and thornton next year…

torrey smith is gonna get big money too and id prefer maclin to him if its close… wouldnt mind torrey but his route tree is limited

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 3:09 pm
Reply to  mhenski

sup mh, Cole is being restructured to a rotational OLB price. Worilds won’t command huge bucks, & can start most snaps, with Cole. Cole wears down, every year, & we need OLB, because Graham is a goner. Thornton is a RFA, so he will be tendered & won’t make big bucks. The only guy I have them signing, who will get big bucks, are Moore & possibly Smith, due to supply & demand, after Thomas & Dez were tagged. But I’d rather give Smith the $$$$ than giving Maclin a long term deal. One year wonder, injury prone tissue paper.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 2:54 pm
Reply to  DCar

Damn so we lose maclin and now matthews is our #l……but yea the denver post just stated we are potential suitors for moore due to hos position coach neing here

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 2:59 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Z, just what I was thinking. According to Denver media, Moore had a good relationship with Cory Undlin, so the Birds should get him, with no problem.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 3:05 pm
Reply to  DCar

He only wants 5 million year annually thats a good deal he should be our next signing

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 3:11 pm
Reply to  zilents44

He’s looking for 4 years. I’d do it. He’s still only 25 & perfect size.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 3:15 pm
Reply to  DCar

Yea i saw they were reworking cole…..but woirlds cant command more then 7 mill a year…..id give him 3year 21 million

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 3:21 pm
Reply to  zilents44

z, I don’t even think he’ll get that. 7 sacks ain’t getting $7M per, then again Everson Griffen got 5 yr(s) / $42,500,000, after having a 5.5 sack season in 2013. Who knows??? Let’s hope for once, we spend big, wisely, “The Genius” swallows his ego, & Weaselman is sent to Siberia, during the FA period.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 3:29 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Yea i just said that because pass rushersvare always paid more then they are worth and shit we can afford it

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 2:57 pm
Reply to  DCar

I like it Dcar…
I like the Off-Season Cutting of Players that don’t fit the Future, were Overpaid
or Injured and Aging..
I like the Free-Agents (Safety Moore is familiar with new Secondary Coach who came from the Bronco’s which is huge)
I like both CB’s.. Culliver to line up verus the bigger, more physical Receivers while House takes the speedier,faster ones..
ILB Wilhoite is Versatile and strong versus both the Run & Pass and can Blitz a little bit too..
Guard Clint Boling is an excellent Run Blocker and a Future Pro-Bowler
if he comes to the Eagles and QB Locker is big body, more athletic Nick FOles with a very Strong Arm, though he still has to learn how to use it.. but a Quality Back-Up

I like the Draft as Well. Good Job..

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 3:03 pm
Reply to  paulman

paul, so far, we got most of what we asked. Only, I got Herremans & Cole situations reversed. I thought Cole would be released & Herremans would get restructured. Let’s hope they spend big & wisely to upgrade the secondary, WR, & LB’s, & “The Genius” doesn’t act like the smartest guy in the room, & destroy the future, by wasting the next 2-3 drafts, trading up to get an overrated, system QB, who IMHO, is no better than Foles. You don’t waste all of the assets you have, with all the holes this team has, on a maybe at QB!

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 3:17 pm
Reply to  DCar

I think with Brandon Graham being a goner and a huge ? about Marcus Smith II ability to Contribute that Chip Kelly probably feels he has to keep Trent Cole for 1 more Season which is probably the smart move but at a reduced Salary for T Cole ..

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 3:24 pm
Reply to  paulman

paul I agree 100%. Worilds will fit perfect with Cole & Barwin. It wouldn’t surprise me, if Smith the stiff is released too. All indications, is Weaselman is solely responsible for the draft. Spadaro, the puppet admitted on WIP.

mhenski
mhenski
March 3, 2015 3:00 pm

ITS OFFICIAL OUR CURRENT CORNERS ARE JUST AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN LAST YEARS GROUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 3:04 pm
Reply to  mhenski

mh, LMMFAO! 3 parking cones are better than last years CB’s & Allen.

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 3:05 pm

Eagles can let Maclin Walk and sign both Torrey Smith & Brian Hartline
to go along with J Matthews, J Huff & Riley Cooper for 2015
Then Eagles Draft a WR in Draft and use that Receiver to replace Cooper
after next Season..

mhenski
mhenski
March 3, 2015 3:16 pm
Reply to  paulman

torrey smith and brian hartline will not be cheaper than maclin. torrey will get paid, 11 tds is no joke but catching 50% of his targets is… someone will overpay him… hartline blows and is allergic to the endzone NO THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 3:07 pm

Lol

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 3, 2015 3:17 pm

Dcar after last years draft, what confidence whatsoever do you have they would draft those guys? Especially when you know damn well Kelly’s trading up? Great idea you have with a zero chance of it happening.

DCar
DCar
March 3, 2015 3:27 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Because Weaselman will be MIA. You know I have next to no confidence in “The Genius”, but I’ll give him this offseason, then I’ll rip accordingly, if he doesn’t spend big & wise, & draft correctly. If he destroys the future by stupidly trading up for Mariotta, I’m done with him!

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 3, 2015 3:36 pm
Reply to  DCar

I don’t trust either one of them to do the right thing, I still think Chip has one eye on the backdoor for a quick escape.

mhenski
mhenski
March 3, 2015 3:31 pm

former phillies draft prospect cavan biggio (son of craig) on an absolute tear at notre dame. Hopefully phillies get this kid when he declares!!!!!! he is a fucking beast, all the tools his dad had and then some. great work ethic too

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 4:12 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Stay away from Notre Dame Kids..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 3, 2015 3:31 pm

Just bring in McCourty or Moore and don’t blow the bank on the corner position….I am hoping it isn’t Maxwell…as a fan if he turns into the next Sherman awesome….but he’s got NMandi/DMC written all over him to me.

And I prefer Worilds and would let Cole and Graham walk.

Take a run at Haloti if the Ravens release him move Cox and Logan to End.

Keep an eye on the the 49ers boatload of ILBs and see if one shakes loose.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 3:38 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Nah dont think hes a asamaugh hes younger and actually got thrown at on his side……but im not paying 10 mill for him…..moore…..house…..culliver

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 3, 2015 3:42 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I don’t see it Z but I hope youre right

Stevo
Stevo
March 3, 2015 3:37 pm

We have 30 million…. and are still working on deals to make that grow…. we have PLENTY of money to spend and we have the worst secondary in the league….. PLUS we are not spending a dime in terms of our starting QB (because we have Foles or draft MM)…. they better invest in the secondary…. they better land 2 amazing starters. No excuses. None. How many years in a row do I need to bemoan this? When will they do something here? For the last 10 years or more we put up yards and points….. now we score even faster…. and they STILL wont address the corners? and SS? are you kidding me?

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2015 3:45 pm
Reply to  Stevo

This is the year stevo this is the year….lol

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 4:10 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Eagles should have closer to $40-$45 Million To play with..
Stared with $20 Million Under the Cap and then the Cap has Increased almost $8 Million to about $143 Per Team and now the Eagles have Cut about $15 Million more with the Releases of Players C Williams, J Casey and Todd Herremans… Out with the Old and In with the New…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 3, 2015 4:21 pm
Reply to  paulman

32 million per Jeff McClane with the Carey Williams move.

paulman
paulman
March 3, 2015 5:02 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Did McClane forget about the $8 Million Team Salary Cap Increase announced by the NFL yesterday?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 3, 2015 5:15 pm
Reply to  paulman

I take it as they may have freed up 40 min in savings but cap dollars its 32.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 3, 2015 3:44 pm

According to PFT

Maxwell changes agents meaning the earliest teams can start talking to him is Sat.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 5, 2015 4:42 pm

I’m hearing the belief Foles will be the guy less and less as Chip shapes his team.

I wonder why?

Chip purposely took away the Eagles superstars 2 years in a row knowing the key star ingredient for an NFL contender is QB.

See, guys like Brady can win with anyone at receiver or RB and the same can be said for Rodgers and Luck.

Chip wanted everyone to see what Foles was without a Djax and if he would have took the team on his back regardless of who’s running routes, there would be no Mariota conversation today.

Chip will get Mariota and if he do the Eagles will go deep into the playoffs.

Chip was tired of these leftover stars with bloated salaries winning absolutely nothing.

Now, our players will be paid on playoff merits opposed to stats.

Win against winning teams.

Kick ass on the big stages when the lights come on.

I’m very excited for the path Chip is taking this team.

Go Eagles!

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2015 7:19 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Wait till Chip lets Maclin walk also!!!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 5, 2015 7:55 pm
Reply to  paulman

It’s alright.

We will have top tier new talent in all the skill positions.

Mariota, Melvin Gordon…and a top receiver from this class.

The Eagles are coming baby!!!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 5, 2015 8:01 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Explain exactly how we get three top players from this class?

mhenski
mhenski
March 5, 2015 8:50 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Maclin already did walk. The fuck u talkin about ?