• March 28, 2024

Say Goodbye To Mariota

mariotaGo ahead and rip me a new one. I was one of the first to start writing articles to go “all in” for Mariota. I knew it was an unlikely scenario, how much it would cost the Eagles to move up in the draft and get the former Oregon quarterback. There was part of me that felt it was borderline “stupidity” to speak so confidently about it the idea, but I honestly felt that it was going to happen.

The concept of trading for Mariota also made sense to many others both in Philadelphia and through the national media. It was either commit to Foles long term which many felt Chip wanted no parts of or make the move for the kid he recruited and groomed with his “system.”

Then the dominos started to fall in place, Chip was given all of the power. And with power every move he made, with releasing vets, trading a McCoy, the feeling became more and more that it was leading to a deal to get the “franchise quarterback.” Chip demonstrated a relentless start to his GM duties, showing that he was going to do things his way, outside opinions he could care less about.

And then the official start of free agency began on Tuesday. As the quarterback for quarterback trade was announced mixed reports has Eagle fans excited about flopping spots in round one with the Rams, making it much easier at pick 10 to move up. A 2016 second round pick also coming to Philadelphia; more pieces to send along with Bradford to get Mariota.

And then the “actual” components of the trade are released, and a “numbing” feeling overtakes me and thousands of other diehards. I was and still am baffled by the deal, hoping, praying that somehow and someway this is a mere smoke screen of a bigger deal to take place. That the words that Chip Kelly spoke on Wednesday in front of the media, being offered a #1 pick for Bradford, not trading all of the picks for Mariota are “noise.” I have to believe that Chip Kelly is an evil genius.

I’m moving on from Mariota, not saying there isn’t a chance it could still happen, I’m learning the hard way, anything is possible with Chip, but it’s not happening.
How did this entire Mariota thing happen when Chip Kelly literally laughed it off yesterday about mortgaging the future for the “possibility” of drafting one player.

Somehow I created, many created the sense that it could actually be real. When Chip and company remained quiet after the season ended, after every big headline with the shift in power to all of the player movement, “we” filled in the blanks. At the end of every move, one common idea “increased” amongst Philadelphia, that we were moving up for Mariota.

And now we move on from Mariota.

Jeff Kolsky

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Rocko
Rocko
March 14, 2015 10:47 pm

Hey relax Jeff. We still got Matthews, Barber, a 1st and other picks that we could use for trade bait. The “Chipster” knows what he’s doing and I’m hoping he’ll get us there. We just finished round 1 and there are plenty of rounds to go.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 14, 2015 11:10 pm

Getting Mariota was never realistic unless he drops…its virtually impossible to move from #20 up into the top 10. We dangled Foles and no one came close to making that offer…the most I think we were offered was a #5th rounder…if that..Bradford had more value

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 12:06 am

Jeff he’s more emboldened now , he’s already holding two ones 20 and sam ..

Stevo
Stevo
March 15, 2015 1:14 am

The word is… Whomever cracks Chips little code gets to work for him (chip we know you are reading this and it is a good idea) here is my conspiracy theory….
I’m interested for the drama. Truth be told.. U know me.. I dont watch college football so I’ve not seen MM play more than a handful of times and I dont necessarily care if he is an eagle or not but… This game of chicken is getting interesting: the latest is.. The redskins are scared as hell that chip gets him.. So.. They’ve told the world that they will draft him. They wouldn’t.. Would they? They wouldn’t even know what to do with him. They have more needs. So… They trade out. But who wants him? They won’t trade with the Eagles… Nor should they. So.. Who wants him? The Browns? They clearly want a new Qb… They offered a first for Bradford, that has been confirmed. The Browns have the 12th and 19th picks. Would they make the trade? 2 first rounders to the skins to move up? Also… Would they want to trade MM over to the Eagles for Bradford and their first? Could u imagine? Chip Kelly turns nick Foles into MM for basically a second rounder. Un f-ing believable!!! Ok… Onto the jets. A report came out a couple of weeks ago that the jets had a trade lined up with Eagles. It was a NY reporter that leaked it out. I spotted right away how odd it was the Bradford said he knew a deal was prolly coming for 3 weeks. Was it do diligence to work with the jets? Or… Was Bradford part of THAT deal? Do the Eagles have a deal with the jets for the 6th pick? The rumor was Evans (jets wr) and the 6th for???? We don’t know!!! So… We know who Tampa takes… Basically. But does MM get past Tenn? I say yes.. Then Jax. Oak wouldn’t do it.. They have Carr. Then… The drama begins. What happens? Should be fun to watch. I say it doesn’t happen… And btw… Bradford got us Murray, could he land us MM too?

Well… I cant say I even want this to happen. I’m starting to think Bradford will do just fine… But I am wondering these things.

lewdoggie20
lewdoggie20
March 15, 2015 9:05 am

Bradford is going nowhere at this point. Only way mariota is an eagle is if he drops to number 20.

ironchef
ironchef
March 18, 2015 12:36 am
Reply to  lewdoggie20

Mariota is someone that Chip has raised to be his NFL quarterback. What Chip has done with the trades and free agency was to put himself in position were he did not have to mortgage the furture for Mariota.
I beleive if Mariota falls to the early teens Chip will jump all over him. Also remember the the Browns are offering the 19th pick for Bradford, Bradford goes to the Browns, we take the 19th pick and maybe a second or third round pick to move up to get Mariota. That’s not mortgaging the furture.Oh by the way we would still have our 20th first round pick to get a the best available player.

bfdaking215
bfdaking215
March 15, 2015 9:46 am

He still wouldn’t be a eagle if he dropped to 20. Chip has his guy for right now. He’s going wr with the 1st round pick. I think he would rather have Bryce petty and mm anyway. He has better anticipation than mm and gets the ball out quicker

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 15, 2015 10:18 am
Reply to  bfdaking215

Yeah he would…Bradford will not be here more than 3 years..Mariota would be taken by Chip if available at 20, but that will not happen.

paulman
paulman
March 18, 2015 1:30 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

if Chip doesn’t make a deep Run within the next 2 Season, he is not here either… This is not going to be a 10 Year Run by Kelly as HC..

ballhawk
ballhawk
March 15, 2015 10:12 am

For those that think Kelly is going WR in the 1st rd, I beg to differ. I would bet the farm that Kelly goes for Oregon G Jake Matthews. Seems he has a thing for guys named Matthews (Casey, Jordan, Ryan…albeit spelled differently) 🙂

WRs are deep in this draft. The Oline needs to get younger and he’s trying to trade Mathis. Looks for Matthews (if available) to go at 20 and a WR chosen in rd 3. Book it!

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 11:45 am

Yeah!!!! And just in the nick of time..
Kelly is going all in to make the Playoffs in 2015 with Bradford and the backfield of Murray,Matthews & Sproles .. He has decided that this is his best option to compete right now and is not going thru a season or two and wait on the learning curve of Mariota.. This is Year #3 of Kelly’s 5 Year Deal and he is going full speed ahead..

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 12:09 pm

Chip Kelly is now tied at the hip with Bradford/Murray for 2 Years
Kelly will not Select Mariota even if he drops down to #20..
His Plan and Backfield (QB/RB) are situated for the short-term, he will focus on OL & WR and DB’s in this Draft…
He made the decision that the timing is just not right to Draft Mariota and spend 2 Years grooming him to be competitive, he has moved ahead and away from Mariota… I don’t see it any other way…

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 12:14 pm

RB D Murray would not have signed or even been interested in the Eagles without Bradford and Kelly knows this and is banking on their relationship
(Bradford/Murray) to rekindle a re-birth of Bradford’s Career
It’s a Risk no Doubt but Kelly feels it’s a better Risk than Trading the Future
For Mariota which should tell everyone what he actually feels about Mariota’s Skill Upside at the NFL.. The fact that’s he’s going all in for an often injured but talented QB in Bradford tells me all I need to know about Mariota future prospects

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 15, 2015 12:48 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul, I give you he’ll but that perspective is 100% spot on. Kelly is not as high on MM as he let’s on…

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 15, 2015 12:49 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Paul, I give you he’ll but that perspective is 100% spot on. Kelly is not as high on MM as he let’s on…

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 15, 2015 12:52 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

HELL

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 12:18 pm

If Kelly were truly “All-In” in Mariota, doesn’t everyone think that he would used his best Trade Pieces (McCoy,Foles & F Cox) and a couple of Picks to ensure that he moved up to #2 with Titans to get him?
Mariota is out of Chip Kelly’s Plans moving forward.. There is No doubt in my mind about this…

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 15, 2015 1:01 pm
Reply to  paulman

I agree…there is no longer any all out push to get Mariota…to be frank, Chip has taken a wiser road and made some better moves. Instead of going all in to get Mariota he has improved several aspects of the team, he is taking a calculated risk with Sam Bradford and sees him as a more polished and intelligent passer.
The big thing is that he has saved the franchise by freeing the Eagles future from the inept and inadequate Nick Foles.
This is the biggest and most important move because now even if Bradford gets hurt again or doesn’t play well….we have the ability to get another QB instead of being tied to an anvil named Foles who would only serve to keep us moored to mediocrity!
Great moves by Chip!
Go Eagles!!

jakedog
jakedog
March 15, 2015 12:18 pm

Kelly has pulled a hinkie and foolishly hit reset, the eagles were about 3. 4 players away from making a run. They had a lot of cap space but wasted about 13 million for a broken down version of foles.

Building a team through free agency. We Now How That Works.

This will be the last year for kelly. Bradford will be injured and then it’s Sanchez. 7-9, Kelly bolts for college

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 12:45 pm

I’m reading all of your posts ..the only thing we know for certain ,is that the unconventional ,is now the norm..Pman ,in the normal ,NFL ,you’d be 100% correct,and I’m not disagreeing with your premise .Im just thinking pinnochipio throwing out at his PC “we were offered a 1” for Sam ,was a bit unconventional.Was that done to satiate the fan base ? Was he aware losing Nick ,caused more of an upheaval ,then shipping shady ,or Maclin ,or Desean for that matter ..No .He ,only is focused in dismantling ,and resurrecting ,this team in his image .He sleeps at night ,in his web feet PJs and clutches his MM doll.Im concerned his fantasy may ,very well ,become our reality..Or ,he’ll stay conventional ,and pick at 20 …what are those odds ? Scenarios ..I don’t see Tenny at 2 …I don’t see washington at 5 ..jets just spent a ton of $ on defense ,and they got Fitzpatrick ,Rams at 10 ..not if you want to show you have faith in Nick foles ..why would Fischer in job jeopardy hook his wagon to that soap oper? Now it gets to my vision of 12 or 19 ..if you have a deal in place at 12 you’d need jump 8 spots ..but if at 19 ..you swap sam 12.9 million and pick up Mm have $ to resign cox or Kendrick’s ,or even a guy released after the draft for $$ reasons..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 15, 2015 12:51 pm

Chip Kelly has intelligently improved the team! He has improved the defense by upgrading a secondary that really needed help. He has added tough north-south runners and upgraded the running game and weakened our division rival-the hated Cowboys by snatching Murray from them! .
He has taken a bold move at upgrading the QB position by getting rid of a limited, deficient, injury prone Nick Foles and adding a more talented, albeit injury prone Sam Bradford and we still have the draft to upgrade the Offensive Line and Wide Receiver
The Eagles go 11-5 win the division, make the playoffs and win a game in the playoffs next year.
The Eagles will win a Super Bowl under Chip Kelly

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 12:52 pm

Jake dog ..if MM arrives with Murray ..Mathews (running back) ,that in Kellys mind is more his vision of an offensive back field..he then features Celek and Ertz as his primary receivers and drafts a burner …he works MATTHEWS (receiver ) into the1 and huff has worked with MM ..there’s a comfort level there ..he’s now got an ability to run this offense as it was designed.The guard play will not be as much in focus ,as he now has the MM quick duck approach vs the statue in sam..here’s my question ? Is chip more inclined to ride the sam twice injured knee train or a healthy MM into the season?

mhenski
mhenski
March 15, 2015 12:54 pm

ESPN’s Josina Anderson passes along buzz from the Pro Day circuit that “some coaches” around the league are “not convinced” the Eagles will keep Sam Bradford.
There’s belief in league circles that Bradford will be used as trade bait to get to the Titans at No. 2 overall, where Chip Kelly could select Marcus Mariota. Kelly’s affinity for Mariota is well known. Kelly has shown he isn’t scared to make bold, complicated football decisions. It’s anyone’s guess as to what he’ll do. We also wouldn’t rule out a trade up to No. 1 overall. Bradford’s pocket-passer style would fit well in new Bucs OC Dirk Koetter’s offense.
Related: Titans
Source: Josina Anderson on Twitter Mar 15 – 12:12 PM

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 1:04 pm

Chips PC $$ matters ..I’m not mortgaging the future to get MM ..I was offered a 1 for Sam after the trade ..Jeff Fischer “me too” I was offerd a 1 ..so now ,truth or not sam =a 1 …so now he sits with two ones as does cleveland..he has 12.9 million on the books with a gimp ..if the wink wink at 12 is agreed and chip only needs flip at 19 …what do you think he’ll do? He can justify he didn’t mortgage the future ..he would get a 3 ,because as the deals constructed if sam doesn’t play this season for th Eagles he gets a 3 ..he gave up a 4 and a next years 2 ,and he gets Mm and a 3 and he already has the Rams 5 ..

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 1:09 pm

guys this ain’t our dads AR ..the bleeding Eagles green is running the sam trade bait story…where there’s smoke there’s chip …the ducks and yucks keep on coming ..he was all over the FA day screen ,now he wants th esame spotlight on draft day ..the biggest stage of all…this is one crazy Daffy Duck

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 1:11 pm

Howie found in footlocker stabbed by his slide rule trying to balance the cap…as chip moves faster than a 3 card Monty..

bfdaking215
bfdaking215
March 15, 2015 1:18 pm

how come no one believes he will keep Sam Bradford? He made a very convincing point as to why he wanted Bradford and everything he said about him was true. Chip values the skill set more than anything. The man said he watched every snap and talked to all his coaches and our o coordinator had him while in St. Louis. I saw someone on here make the Drew Bree’s comparison and it’s quite like that. Different cause brees was not traded but he came with big question marks about his health. Teams even chose culpepper over him. And he wasn’t exactly lighting it up like that in San diego. They drafted Philip rivers for a reason. I see what chip is talking about as far as skill set for this offense. I personally value decision making more than anything but if you but Bradford next to foles, Sanchez and even MM and let them all showcase their skill set Bradford would blow all of them away…even my boy nick Foles. The guy was taken number 1 after missing the whole season his last year. Should tell you something about the kid

mhenski
mhenski
March 15, 2015 1:45 pm
Reply to  bfdaking215

I don’t believe it because he has failed time and time again. He is a bust and a cripple and I want no part of him or his backup Sanchez

Chip wants to win now and in the future and his ass is on the line. If Bradford stays and goes bust again chip may get canned. He gets yota he can build and buy time.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 15, 2015 2:34 pm
Reply to  bfdaking215

Good points bfdaking 215…when you take a gamble…and that is exactly what this is…a gamble…you bet on talent! The alternative was mortgage the draft for a player…and I was in favor of that too if Chip believes in him…or stick with Foles as your franchise QB.
If you were going to stick with Foles, I argued you have to resign him, pay him, and commit to him as your franchise QB. You couldn’t let Foles play as a lame-duck with no commitment from the team.
We took the best move…get rid of Foles and take a gamble on some talent!

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 1:43 pm

Bfdaking..nobody’s not buying the Sam rap..All I’m saying all along as has Lion,that chip is a snake oil salesman..take every word in his PC and discount 75% ..that puts it closer to reality …I don’t believe for a moment sam is not plan B ..he is ..but plan A is MM or even crazier another qb that he covets ..he’s ready to resurrect this team as he has final say ..he told you that 10 times in his PC that was the 25% of the truth out of his duck bill..

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 1:55 pm

I believe Eagles extend Sam Bradford’s Deal to give a lower Cap Number for 2015.. Look for a new 3 Year Deal to be announced after Draft Weekend as not to clue anyone in what his Draft Plans will be..
My guess is that Kelly now Trades Back 5-8 Spots to pick up an additional pick

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 2:04 pm

Let’s follow this trail…chip traded shady …1st move ..he alleged to sign frank gore…gore measured in his mind Andrew luck as my qb in Indy or Nick foles or heaven for bid Mark sanchez..he went to Indy …made sense ,in that context..no $$ for gore turned into more $$ for maclin..nope he walked back into AR s arms ..in KC ..now no running back no receiver and no plan..we all screamed bloody hell..then Nick for Sam …all you guys ,until the story broke were toasting JHart especially ,we got a 10 and sam for Nick and a20.. Not even close ..now he watched all the tape on sam ,and saw the ambulances ,and stretchers …yeah that sold him on sam the gimp..new storyline ..I’ll tell everyone my OC was SAMs Oc shurmur ..that will sell everyone that I love sam ..next a one fell out of his pocket at the PC ..corroborated by Jeff Fischer …CHARLIE CASERLY ,CONFIRMED on NFL network..yup it was cleveland offering both the Rams and chip a one..but chip turned that down.? Why? Because he collateralized sam into demarco Murray …..so let’s summize the end game ..no gore equals sam (a one offerd by cleveland ) 12 or 19 ? They have two ones..is cleveland going back into the athletic qb waters after there whiff on johnny football? Doubtful ..so now we have Murray ..dallas MVP ..sam and number 20 ..ther are 12.9 million reasons to not restructure SAMs deal and move that $$ off th Ebola or ,cleveland is now screaming ,we want sam but we want his $$ restructured first ..stay tuned Frank gore …equals Gatorade ..

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 2:37 pm

The Murray signing would be a mitigated disaster for Kelly if he were
To Trade Bradford for that’s the only reason he came to Philly,
He rebadged on that and he will have a hard tine attracting Free-Agents
In the Future….. Kelly is envisioning a Oklahoma Flashback to
2008/2009 when Bradford/Murray ran the Spread for the Sooners
Kelly is banking on this to work for he felt Foles was Maxed out
And Mariota would take 2-3 Years which he doesn’t have
Kelly us joined at the Hips of Bradford/Murray for the next 2 Seasobs and
Probably his NFL Tenure if this doesn’t work
Again this all goes back to what QB options Kelly best about for
2015 and Bradford is his guy.. Not Foles and Not Mariota

mhenski
mhenski
March 15, 2015 3:29 pm
Reply to  paulman

Weird Murray only came here for bradford. Lmfao

Pretty sure it was for money and also he wants to win a Super Bowl. He seems like a smart guy. He knows bradford ain’t delivering glory

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 5:25 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Murray contacted Chip Kelly only after Eagles acquired Bradford..
They are very good friends, Teammates and Roommates at Oklahoma..
If it was strictly $$ he could have signed Raiders or Jags who were offering more $$$ or he could have taken less to remain in Dallas if he wanted a better chance at SB then come to Philly with Foles at QB or relying on a Rookie QB??

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 15, 2015 5:48 pm
Reply to  paulman

Incorrect paul, Chip stated that he initiated contact with Murray.

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 7:29 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Murray Reached out for Chip the evening the Foles/Bradford Trade went down, Kelly returned the Call the following morning per Murray’s Statesments… Bradford/Murray texted after the Trade went down also..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 18, 2015 8:29 am
Reply to  paulman

Nope, Chip called Murray first, Murray then returned the call….Chip stated this in his presser about Murray! Elliot Schor Parks also backs it up in NJ.COM

paulman
paulman
March 18, 2015 10:11 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Per Murray’s side, he Reached out to Kelly the evening of the Bradford/Foles Trade..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 18, 2015 11:05 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

per Chip, he reached out to Murray…straight from Chip’s mouth.

paulman
paulman
March 18, 2015 11:42 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

And you believe everything that Chip has said?
Why would RB Murray say that he called Chip first that evening after learning that Bradford was traded to the Eagles, if it wasn’t true
what motive does he have?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 18, 2015 11:50 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

It would serve no purpose for Chip to lie about that. Chip will/does lie when it serves a purpose..to what end or means does him lying about this bring. I believe it was Howard Eskin who asked about Murray contacting Chip, Chip refuted that. I heard Murray say he called Chip back. We will agree to disagree. Doesn’t matter though.

bfdaking215
bfdaking215
March 15, 2015 2:48 pm

I don’t think he’s joined at the hip with them. His system works…with or without superstar players. This system had wrs running wide open against teams like the Seahawks. The qb just didn’t have the decision making or confidence to pull the trigger and make the play. That’s all this dude is looking for. If you can do that this offense is almost impossible to stop

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 15, 2015 2:54 pm

Some y’all are hilarious…pissing and moaning all year about running the ball…he gets two battering rams looks like he will rebuild the line and is going with run heavy defensive team….now Maclin is the best thing since Mike Quick and we shouldn’t let him go.

Bitch to just bitch on here. PATHETIC.

mhenski
mhenski
March 15, 2015 3:31 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Mathews is no battering ram.

Mathews is a bust rb thats done nothing but get hurt.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 15, 2015 4:01 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Matthews hurt yes…A bust… You’re talking out of your ad MHenski.

mhenski
mhenski
March 15, 2015 4:42 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Guarantee you any charger fan would say bust. If he was picked in philly in the first we would be calling him a bust. 12th overall pick, played 1 full season , never double digit tds , has fumbling problems… If he were picked in philly 12th overall everybody would crown his ass a soft ass , made of wet toilet paper and a bust.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 15, 2015 5:57 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Trent Richardson is a bust. Matthews is just an injury prone back. When healthy he’s productive and I believe he’s a 4.4 yards a carry back. San Diego fans grow is he can’t stay healthy enough to be your work horse. He’s not being asked that here.

mhenski
mhenski
March 15, 2015 6:03 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Fair points Izzel. I’m butthurt about shady

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 15, 2015 6:13 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Henski move on from shady… He was great a fan favorite for good reason but…this guy sees things different. Murray is our new guy

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 15, 2015 7:53 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I was a big Shady fan as well…but Shadys running style killed the offense at times. Thats why he had to go….and coupled with how much usage he has had over the last 5 years it was time. Rex Ryan will blow his tires out by years end.

This offense is key on getting positive yardage on 1st and 2nd down…too many times last year we were getting the RIVERDANCE back their with Shady and ending up in 3rd and longs.

That in a nutshell is why he is gone.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
March 15, 2015 10:31 pm
Reply to  mhenski

bullshit mhenski – don’t pretend to know WTF you are talking about – Matthews was NOt considered a bust – he was hurt becuase the O Line has sucked out here in San Diego (yes, Live here and read about the move to LA (Carson actually) every day) You know who the most valuable lineman was for the Chargers this year – and extended – King freakin Dunlap – former Eagles 7th rounder – see jackass – you go slam yourself into 310 pound O Lineman every play – and see how long you last – now – put an Oline like Peters, Kelce, Lane Johnson (not sure who Gs are going to be) with an offense that has 3 RBs splitting the load in a read option to freeze the Lbs for an extra .5 seconds, Matthews is a pro bowl RB – get a clue before you speak for other jerk off

DCar
DCar
March 15, 2015 11:59 pm
Reply to  navyeaglefan

navy, welcome back. Someone piss in your oatmeal? LMMFBO!

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 15, 2015 5:34 pm

Listening to 97.5 the fanatic they keep bringing up this rumor of julio jones coming to the eagles…

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 5:41 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

I doubt they are looking to move Jones, they just released #3 WR Harry Douglas for Cap Reasons and #2 WR Roddy White is close to the end of his playing days…
The Falcons do need OL, DE, TE and LB and probably would love to have a Mathis, Curry, Celek and Kendricks but their Offense is built around Matt Ryan and if you take Julio Jones away, who makes Plays down the field for them?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 15, 2015 6:01 pm
Reply to  paulman

Matt Ryan may not be long for Atlanta. He’s another regimes QB.

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 7:25 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Owner Arthur Blank is a firm & big supporter of Matt Ryan, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon…

zilents44
zilents44
March 15, 2015 7:43 pm
Reply to  paulman

the three worse owners that get into player situations too much dan synder…..jerry jones….and arthur blank…..they have been the reason for all the bad decisions for those teams

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 11:16 pm
Reply to  zilents44

You could probably add Owners Haslett of Browns and Woody Johnson of the Jets…
Arthur Blank has settled down after the Vick Experience blew up on him..
He gave Previous Coach Mike Smith & GM M Dominic 5-6 years to build that Team and stayed out of their way..and they have some success But we’re not the same after the Trade up for Julio Jones which was all GM Dominick’s Then had 2 poor Drafts and questionable off-seasons ever since…
New Coach Dan Quinn and special Asst to GM Scott Pioloi will get them back on track in a short time..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 15, 2015 5:50 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Not a rumor, they were just tossing the idea around as a possible WR for the roster..no smoke is there.

bfdaking215
bfdaking215
March 15, 2015 7:13 pm

What station is 97.5? I’m from philly but been living in North Carolina for the past 8 years and only know about wip. I thought that was Phillys only sports station

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 15, 2015 7:20 pm
Reply to  bfdaking215

97.5 FM the fanatic. 975thefanatic.com

mhenski
mhenski
March 15, 2015 8:01 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

97.5 is whack

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 15, 2015 8:30 pm
Reply to  mhenski

overall it’s better than WIP!!!

DCar
DCar
March 16, 2015 12:04 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

EHL, no it isn’t! Missanelli is all you need to know about that station. The ultimate douche nozzle! He makes Cataldi, & Eskin, look like Rocket Scientists.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 16, 2015 1:16 am
Reply to  DCar

Mike Missanelli=ULTIMATE DOUCHE

Philly radio douchebag Mt. Rushmore

Cataldi Missaneli Gargano Eskin.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 16, 2015 7:39 am
Reply to  DCar

DCAR, I will take Mike Miss over the Josh Enis and Tony Bruno show any day of the week. 97.5 has more pure sports talk than WIP. The only show I can listen to on IP is Mike and Ike, Eskin and Ray Didinger who only comes on Sat and Sun. It’s not even close. You keep IP bro, you must enjoy being bored D…Lol.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
March 16, 2015 1:21 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I agree EHL, it’s much better tha that sorry-ass WIP. If WIP was truly any good there is no way in hell 97.5 would be kicking their asses with Missinelli now. There is a reason Missinelli is kicking their asses and those of us who have a few years and a measured pulse of Philly know why.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 16, 2015 7:47 am
Reply to  coldbrewski

Coldbrew, Absolutely, IP is stale and boring, they cater to a much older age population…except the Josh Enis show, which is brutal.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
March 18, 2015 1:44 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I knew it wouldn’t take long for some callers to start implying that Missinelli caters to “the brothers”. It has already been tossed out there at WIP and I’ve seen it also on some of the local blogs. I bet a friend of mine a few years ago that he’d get this label as his popular for with the black demographic of callers continued to grow. I mean what do you expect when WIP pretty much acted like sports talk radio didn’t exist outside the northeast, south philly, and the burbs. My commentary is no rant or rail against any whites, but just my candid observation of this scenes evolution the past 30 plus years I’ve been actively listening and watching.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 18, 2015 4:30 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I agree with you two guys, it’s hard to listen to that idiot Josh Enis. And I would rather hear Mike & Mike talk basketball (a sport I don’t like) then to listen to sex deprived, dirty old man Angelo Cataldi.

If you take Ray Didinger off Comcast Sports Net I could not watch that channel after games either… That dude Michael Barkann is an asshole…I would be happy if it were Gunner and Didinger and the Gov….

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 8:01 pm

Pman ..indulge me ..if MM how do you see the offense running? What % run to pass ? Uptempo..more or the same ? Contrast that to Sam …who has more upside ? I’m searching through SAMs stats ?he played 49 games ,that’s out of 64. He’s missed basically 25% of his career..His numbers in basically 3 years due to injury his career 11,065 yds.59 td. 38 int.79.3 rating..2010 the shurmur year ,Bradford’s rookie year as the overall 1st pick ..were,3512 yds.18td 15 int..76.5 rating..This was his rookie season and his years that followed …are showing a trend towards mediocrity..2011 2164 yds.6tds.6 ints. 2012 3702 yds. 21 TD 13 int.82.6 2013 1687yds 14 td 4 int.90.9 Where is this off the charts?i wouldn’t exactly call his qb class earth shattering as he and tebow were the only 1st round picks and trust me the second rounders inspire as do the whole top ten ..jimmy clauses ,the only 2nd rounder and 3 rd roundercolt mccoy,mike Kafka in the 4th two 5ths John Skelton and Jonathan Compton…that’s a big pile of warm …… Sam has two ACLs on the same knee ..this is snake oil in a bottle ..

mhenski
mhenski
March 15, 2015 8:02 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Bradford is garbage

Ship him somewhere

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 9:16 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Again, it’s not what I think, I’m going by the actions of Chip Kelly on my thoughts and comments on the QB situation..
His acquiring of QB Bradford tells me that he believes that Bradford can run the Offense and the Team back to the Playoffs quicker than Foles,Sanchez, & Mariota or any other Rookie QB in this Draft or QB that’s out in Free-Agency…

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 8:23 pm

Here’s the bottom line If chip “poured over the tape” he’s seeing quick decision making ..I looked back on the 2009 and 2010 QBs sanchez 5th overall and now bradford the following year ..sports illustrated rankings of the 2010 first round pick..sam Bradford went first overall,and by no means did the Rams get burned,but they didn’t get there money’s worth from the last big money qbs drafted one.Bradford has started 16 games twice,in four years..so he’s mr 50/50.. Wow so is Mark sanchize..he’s 18-30-1 as a starter .The trend of going 5-2 and 1 in the NFC west the past 2 seasons is promising for sure..based upon his competition ..he’s ranking very high with the 120 sacks in 49 games …(that’s not a misprint)

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 8:27 pm

ok Pman ..times yours ..what am I missing songs? Kool? Here’s some numbers to contrast …6,753 for 3 years..46 tds. 17 int..94.2 ..record with chip 14-4.. What and why the hate? I’ll never know

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 16, 2015 1:11 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Stop listening to Vinniedafool and his stats obsession!

Chip Kelly explained it himself.

I’ll paraphrase but when a Qb throws a 1 yard pass and the running back runs for 80 yards…it goes in the stats but the credit in Chip’s mind goes to the running back not the Qb. If a receivers makes an incredible catch in traffic for a 7 yard gain and you’ve got a receiver running wide open 20 yards down the field the Qb doesn’t get the credit the receiver who made the catch gets it
Chip Kelly looks at things like this in his assessment of QB’s and decided that Nick Foles didn’t have enough good QB plays to warrant being a franchise QB

Getting rid of Foles was Chip Kelly’s best decision

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 8:28 pm

Nick foles stats above ..

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 9:34 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Chip Kelly must believe that Foles maxed out in running what Kelly wants to do Offensively and wasn’t going to commit to an extension of Contract so why not make a move/trade for Bradford before the Draft to catch other Teams (Browns, Bills, etc by surprise who were focusing on Free-Agency)

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 8:35 pm

Here’s the question who runs this NFL …why is sam today (not done rehab) for an ACL ..worth a number one pick ? Based upon the numbers Id say they got that backwards ..Sam is valued a 1st round pick ..this based solely on numbers ..doesn’t add up?

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 9:27 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

He’s Valued as a 1st Rd because this Draft Class is weak at the QB Position as was the Free-Agency Group of QB’s.. It’s the old Supply vs Demand..
And when you look around the NFL at QB’s that are 28 & Younger, there are not many out there.. (Wilson & Luck and then who?)
Have Stafford, Ryan,Newton lived up to their Hype and Draft Status?
Also note Eagles OC Pat Shurmur’s Evaluation of Bradford’s Upside & Skill
Has no doubt made an impact in Kelly’s decision to acquire him…
Put it all together and Kelly wants to Win now in 2015 and is not thinking about 2016 or 2017 .. He’s going All-In with Sam Bradford I how I see it…
I’m not sure it’s a good idea, but obviously he does …

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 9:50 pm

Pman ..spot on ,analysis ..time will tell..but tell me what actions of chip kelly are you referencing? How is he constructing this in your mind to win now ? With a rehabbing ACL? I contend ,he’s scared shitless ,he’s shown a deft hand of making others believe SAMs the better of he two ,and has affirmation from the dog pound ..they can’t pick one number one pick correctly in there storied history ,let alone two..Chip has a one and a one ..with Nick he had a guy ,fisher wanted …this isn’t any plan where chip wanted sam ..chip just wanted another one..the smoking gun ,is in his dropping that tidbit in his PC …whenever does a coach and then the opposing coach discuss other offers In a trade ,before the draft? Yes ,after the dust settles ,rumors and shits floated around by unnamed sources..How many coaches are that transparent with the media? This is a snake oil job..I’m telling you Pman ..He can’t try this plan until he falls past the Rams ..he’s already got a wink wink in place with fisher ,he gave him Nick with the assurance he won’t take MM..why didn’t chip push for the10th pick and hold firm on that for Nick? Because he has a deal ..he only needs get the browns on board at 12 or 19 …he already has them in his sights ..they tipped there hand ,allegedly ..they wanted sam ? Who does that ? The Cleveland Browns..

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 10:42 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

It could very well end up like this Desert,
You have probably read my previous Posts where I stated that the Browns would possibly be the one other Team to move up for Mariota but the Browns already signing and committing $$$ for Veteran Josh McCown and having 2 Selections in the 1st Round at #12 & #19 where they have a good chance of getting a Young QB (Mariota or Petty or Hundley) that it makes little sense
To Trade one of those Picks for 28 Year Old Bradford… What would they do with McCown then? ..
I believe Browns are going WR at #12 (Amari Cooper or Davante Parker)
And QB at #19 (Mariota, Petty or Hundley) and would be happy with either 3

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 15, 2015 9:53 pm

Why wasn’t Nick valued as a 1? Numbers bely ,otherwise . .? Pedigree ,only counts in Westminster ,ask Tom Brady ,russel Wilson ..

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2015 11:07 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

I can’t answer that… Maybe if Chip had talked him up a bit more it would have helped… I believe most NFL thought that 2013 Nick Foles was a anomaly and a 1-Hit wonder where his Success came out of nowhere and believe it was due to being in Kelly’s System as opposed to great QB Play
Then 2014 comes and Foles struggles and then get hurts again and the fact that he hasn’t played that well against the Good Teams..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 16, 2015 1:11 am
Reply to  paulman

Legit response Paulman.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 16, 2015 4:36 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

desert/regal…because I was right in what I told you about Nick Foles. NFL teams have film…the saw all of Foles deficiencies…they have film on Sam Bradford as well…and despite his stats and record being worst than Foles…despite his injuries…he has a much higher value than Foles…so again…we had to give up a second rounder to get rid of Foles…smh

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 16, 2015 1:10 am

It’s simple… Most of the league views Foles as Derek Andersen… Who went beserk with Braylon Edwards for a year then came crashing down to earth.

Lastly sentiment around the league is that Foles first year was aided by lack of tape of Kelly’s offense and the initial lack of interceptions.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 7:56 am

Paulman I won’t believe that Bradford is his guy until they give him an extension cause they carry a 13million dollar qb on there roster they are letting cb’s go in fa due to this they only have 7 million available now to his 13million cap hit.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 16, 2015 8:04 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

An extension does not even guarantee that, especially if it’s cap friendly which it will most likely be.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 9:25 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I believe an extension is being worked out with Bradford but won’t be announced until after the Draft to keep other Teams on their Toes nad in the Dark about the Eagles Draft Plans…

bfdaking215
bfdaking215
March 16, 2015 7:57 am

I think josh Enis is hilarious. I have to check out this 97.5 tho

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 16, 2015 8:03 am
Reply to  bfdaking215

He makes my ears bleed out.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 16, 2015 8:57 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

The thing with Enis is that he has some good points, but you either agree with him or you are wrong. I can’t handle that kinda egotism. People point to the fact that he is not a homer (saying that is good), but he really seems to he is better and smarter than everyone in Philly.

summup
summup
March 16, 2015 9:40 am

you guys can say what you want until Chip restructures Bradford’s contact Chip is going after Mariota ; and I believe cox and kindricks is going to be part of the deal plus picks

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 9:43 am
Reply to  summup

i pray that we get yota. i dont think chip wants to burn bridges tho, i could see us getting yota while keeping bradford… give bradford a shot while yota watches. kendricks+cox+picks i guess would be the deal

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 10:02 am
Reply to  mhenski

What does Chip Kelly do with Sanchez?
I could see him Trading Mathis, Kendricks,Curry & Boykin but not Fletcher Cox, who their DL is built around..

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 10:06 am
Reply to  paulman

who cares what they do with sanchez. put him in the dumpster for all i care.

however the logic could be let bradford try this year, with yota learning and sanchez as the backup. when bradford gets hurt let yota take over and still have a capable back up. then bradford walks after this year and yota takes over with butt fumble as his back up next year…

i think u are right in your assessment that bradford isnt going anywhere paul. im just praying and grasping at straws that we end up with yota as i cant stomach that our future at qb is bust bradford

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 10:02 am

Oregon T Jake Fisher “looked terrific in position drills” at last week’s pro day, reported TFY Draft Insider’s Tony Pauline.
“He was explosive, strong and very athletic. He displayed outstanding hand punch and looked very athletic moving around the field,” Pauline wrote. CBS Sports’ Rob Rang wrote about the same subject this week, noting that Fisher put “on a show” during his positional workout. Fisher is having a huge offseason and may have moved onto the Round 2 line. The 6-foot-6 1/8, 306-pounder (82-inch wingspan) showed off his athleticism at the combine, clocking a 5.01 forty. He added a good 1.75 second 10-yard split, a sensational 4.33 second 20-yard shuttle (better than the five-year combine average for tight ends, according to Muench), and a super 32.5 inch vertical.
Source: Walter Football
Mar 16 – 12:31

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 10:57 am
Reply to  mhenski

OL Jake Fisher was already a Solid Mid 2nd Round Prospect but has probably slid up to the late 1st/Early 2nd Round per many Scouts

Word is that Carolina at #25, Broncos at #28, Colts at #29, Packers at #30
and Pats at #32 are all very interested in Fisher …

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 10:27 am

That’s my pick @20 JAKE FISHER

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 10:32 am

Eagles trade Kendricks to pats for 32pick and 4th Rd pick

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 10:43 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

No way… A 1st & a 4th for ILB M Kendricks

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 3:49 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Kendricks too small for the Pats System.. Belicheck likes long and lanky LB’s across his Defense.. His Brother Eric is even smaller and 10-15lbs lighter….

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 10:58 am
Reply to  paulman

pats look pretty set to me at linebacker

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 11:04 am
Reply to  paulman

Pats not set at lb I could cover better than Hightower Kendricks would be a major upgrade over him.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 10:57 am

Hey paulman think about it it’s the last pick in the 1st Damn near a 2nd so it’s like giving up a 2 and a 4 for him.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 11:05 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

DT H Ngata and a 7th from the Ravens goes to Detroit for a 4th & 5th Picks

ILB M Kendricks would likely Return a 5th Rd Pick in a Trade, maybe a 4th, since he’s still on his Rookie Deal and Cheap as far as Current Salary goes- But ILB’s are just not Valued or Return as much in Today’s NFL and are a dime a dozen for most Teams.. which is another Reason that DeMeco Ryans should take a 50% Pay Cut on his $6.75 Million Salary out be Flat-Out Released..

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 11:07 am
Reply to  paulman

Nghta ia also 32 yrs old you can’t compare the 2 Kendricks is what 24

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 11:08 am
Reply to  paulman

dont think ngata would set the precedent for kendricks. ngata is 31ish and owed tons of money. kendricks young, entering prime and isnt expensive though his deal is about to expire…

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 1:41 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Phialdelphia Fans and Local Media way Overrate LB M Kendricks who is
nice Player, but nothing Special..

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 1:46 pm
Reply to  paulman

agreed paul

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 16, 2015 3:37 pm
Reply to  paulman

Kendricks is much more than a nice player Paul. I understand where youre coming from about overrating our own though. Kendricks is a beast when he is allowed to roam and make plays. He really shows his talents against mobile QBs etc.

He has been nicked up more than I would like though. However the amount of athleticism in the middle with Kendricks/Alonzo is pretty damn good.

Another year of nicks though and Kendricks may go the way of Stewart Bradley though.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2015 5:08 pm
Reply to  paulman

They overrate Kiko Alonso too……

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 6:56 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

In Kiko I Trust…
He made more Plays and an Impact in his Only Season as a Rookie
Then Kendrick’s has made in 3 Seasons..

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2015 11:28 pm
Reply to  paulman

I don’t….

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2015 11:33 pm
Reply to  paulman

playing behind Marcel Dareus can mask a lot of deficiencies. He won’t have that luxury behind Benny Logan, who should be the DE in our 3-4.

and it was just one year….. he’s coming off his second ACL tear, he was never fast in the first place. The Bills raped us in that trade.

You guys always exaggerate the abilities players like him. Don’t be surprised if he disappoints you.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 11:34 pm
Reply to  paulman

I don’t trust him either Cliff
2 ACL Surgeries and 1 Hip Surgey all since 2010 and Kiko just turned 24 Years Old… He’ll be fortunate to play 3-4 more Years ..

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2015 11:53 pm
Reply to  paulman

I understand the optimism with Alonso based upon his rookie year, but I have serious concerns as to whether he something other than fools gold.

I have wanted to upgrade the OLB, and ILB positions for years now, and I think they need to give that more attention in the draft, because Brandon Graham stinks.

Go up a little, and get Alvin Dupree. Get Stephone Anthony. Make some deals to come out this year with 2 WR’s like Green Beckham, Breshard Perryman, or Tre McBride in the 4th.

They must plan on drafting a Safety, so Damarius Randall, and or Jaquiski Tartt would be on my wish list

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
March 18, 2015 1:59 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Ngata’s age and money were the reason he was traded for this modest haul. You ad gloomy got it right. As usual paulman doesn’t. It has nothing to do with Philly fans and media overrating Kendricks. The Ravens fiscal situation also dictated how aggressive they could be in regards to leveraging Ngata’s real worth,

paulman
paulman
March 18, 2015 2:54 pm
Reply to  coldbrewski

The Failed Drug or Steroid Test that Ngata had where he received a 4 Game Suspension “ensured” that Ngata was a goner either way…

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 10:58 am

Miss State LB Benardrick McKinney is visiting the Eagles on Monday and Tuesday, per Tony Pauline.
This counts as one of the Eagles’ 30 allotted in-house visits. McKinney’s NFL projection is an interesting one. He’s an old school thumper at middle linebacker, but might be able to stay on the field as a drop linebacker at the line of scrimmage in an odd man front. He will likely be selected in the top two rounds.
Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter
Mar 16 – 10:40 AM

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 11:19 am
Reply to  mhenski

McKinney has slipped a little bit due to his Struggles in Pass-Coverages on Tape and in the On-the-Field Drills at the Combine.. He does has Pass-Rushing & Blitzing Skills and at 6-4 259lbs would be a big presence at ILB or OLB.. With some Experience and NFL Coaching, many feel he has a bright upside at the NFL Level and probably a Mid to Late 2nd Rounder (#50-#65 Range)

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 11:22 am
Reply to  paulman

Meanwhile ILB Stephone Anthony of Clemson has moved up the Boards from a 4th Round Prospect to the late 2nd Round/Early 3rd Round Range
Anthony is quicker, with better instincts per most Scouts and at 6-2 250lbs still has that Physicality as well as Athleticism…
I believe the Eagles spoke/interviewed him at the Combine…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 16, 2015 11:26 am
Reply to  paulman

The Eagles took Stephone Anthony out to dinner during his pro day.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 2:10 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I like to See both Ryans & Kendricks gone and Replaced by Kiko Alonso & Stephone Anthony ..
Get a Mid-Round Pick for Kendricks and Release Ryans and his $6.75 Million Contract hat has no Dead $$ associated to give the Eagles $11.75 Million under the Cap….

Just like Chip likes longer,taller CB’s, he also likes longer, taller LB’s
Out With the Old and In with the New…

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2015 5:11 pm
Reply to  paulman

I think it would be a mistake by the Eagles to not draft Alvin Dupree, while stupidly signing Brandon Graham to start.

Why sign an out right scrub, and pass on a potential Pro Bowler

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2015 5:21 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I love the idea of drafting Anthony. I have been mocking him most of the offseason. I also like Eli Harold to solidify the pass rush from the OLB spot.

I need either Marcus Peters, and or Quinton Rollins who could drop to the early 3rd.

I think we need at least 2 receivers from this draft. Green Becham, Tre McBride, and Breshard Perryman would be my choices.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 11:36 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Dupree will go in the 10th-15th Range ..
I see the Saints at #13 Selecting him..

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2015 11:57 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

He is moving up Paul.

But, He should be our target more so than Mariota. You know how I feel about Barwin, but Brandon Graham starting pisses me off royally – We need a better, younger, more athletic option there.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 17, 2015 12:07 am
Reply to  gmcliff

The Eagles also have to pick an ILB before the 49ers after your proclaimed stud Chis Boreland decided to retire today.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 11:00 am

Evan Mathis for corddell Patterson

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 11:06 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

they arent trading patterson dude. they cut jennings

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 16, 2015 4:38 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Mathis is too old…no way…the best we are going to get for Mathis is a 3 or 4 from a team that really wants to shore up their Oline for a year or two

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 11:17 am

Which means what they can’t draft another one they need oline help to convince ap not to roll. There starting wr’s right now are charles Johnson and Mike Wallace he does g fit there if he did it would be no need for Wallace or his 17million cap hit they took.

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 11:35 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

gloomy patterson cant play wr in the nfl right now. he is a kr / pr and cheap – 1 mill /year. vikings arent parting ways with him

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 12:03 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Your forgetting WR Jarius Byrd who was a bigger part of their Offense last Season with 42 Catches and 550 Yards with 2 TD’s to go along with Charles Johnson and now Mike Wallace & Corradelle Patterson

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 12:35 pm
Reply to  paulman

Jarius Byrd is the safety in new orleans we shouldve signed last year not a wr for minny

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 16, 2015 12:55 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Glad they didn’t sign him. Only played 4 games last year.

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 12:57 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

but if he was drinking those science shakes he wouldve played all 16. haaaaaa

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 16, 2015 1:19 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Nice.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 1:36 pm
Reply to  mhenski

That’s WR Jarius Wright on Minnesota I meant to type and not Byrd… (Wright is from University of Arkansas and who I liked for the Eagles as a Mid-Round Pick in the 2013 Draft if anyone recalls) Also a Good Punt Returner too… Fast, Fast, Fast…

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 11:52 am

I’m confused if Mathis isn’t there plans long term what’s wrong with getting a wr that has size,speed and one that can return punts and kicks and could possibly turn into a wr he can bubble screens and slants and can be taught the rest of the route tree as tike goes on. But in no way if the Vikings ok that deal chip should turn it down.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 12:59 pm

Eagles 2015 Mock Draft (Version #18)

1st Rd – Eagles Trade Back from 20th to 31st to the New Orleans Saints for their 3rd Round PIck (# 77) and a 5th Rd Pick in 2016

1st Rd – (#31) – CB Kevin Johnson (Wake Forest 6-0 190lbs)
2nd Rd -(#52) – Guard Laken Tomlinson (Duke 6-3 320lbs)
3rd Rd – (#77) – WR Tre McBride (William & Mary 6-0 212lbs)
3rd Rd – (#84) – OT Darryl Williams (Oklahoma 6-5 325lbs)
4th Rd – – WR Dezmin Lewis (Central Arkansas 6-4 215lbs)
5th Rd – Safety Clayton Geathers (UCF 6-2 218lbs)
6th Rd – OLB Brock Hekking (Nevada 6-3 250lbs)
7th Rd – DE Frank Clark (Michigan 6-3 270lbs)

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 17, 2015 2:58 am
Reply to  paulman

This is your best mock this offseason Paul.

– but selecting Kevin Johnson at this point is way too early for him because he is not a first round talent – He would have to be substituted for a top WR at that point in the draft.

paulman
paulman
March 17, 2015 6:19 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Do note that I have Eagles Trading back from 20 to 31
To get an additional 3rd Round Pick so CB Kevin Williams at #31
is a Solid Selection..
He’s Rated as the 2nd Best pure Cover guy
In this Draft Class by many Scouts (Behend Marcus Peters)

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 17, 2015 9:44 am
Reply to  paulman

I saw that Paul. We as usual just have differing opinions about the talent, and potential of Kevin Johnson.

I know he is rated in the eyes of some as top 5, but usually that means nothing until they get on the field – and prove it. Most that clamor for Kevin Johnson, haven’t even seen him play, but like his measurables.

I would rather they take a fly on someone like him in the mid- late 2nd instead of the 1st.

I think Quinton Rollins is much better than him, and Byron Jones. I like Senqueze Golson, but his measurables aren’t as attractive as the others – I understand, but talent will always trump hype.

paulman
paulman
March 17, 2015 11:13 am
Reply to  gmcliff

K Johnson is a 1st Round Talent by 99% of NFL Scouts, my only real complaint about him is that he is not a Physical Player.. He’s tall and lanky at 188lbs and is not much of a Tackler..But He excels in Man-Coverage, Has Long Arms with nice Leaping Ability ability to along with very good Ball Skills… He’s a very Good Prospect and will go anywhere from #22-#32 in this Draft of the 1st Round would be my guess..
There has not been a lot of National “hype” on Kevin Johnson as he Played Ball at Wake Forest which is not a Traditional Power Program by any stretch
I also like Rollins and wouldn’t mind seeing him at #31, in my abovev Mock Scenario and Golson is a nice 3rd Round Prospect

ironchef
ironchef
March 18, 2015 12:41 am
Reply to  paulman

Were are the Oregon Players?

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 16, 2015 1:19 pm

Good trade paulman but I don’t think Johnson is there @31

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 1:32 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

If not, Substitute a CB Marcus Peters or CB Quentin Rollins or PJ Williams
or Select OT Jake Fisher of Oregon at that #31 Spot
then at #84 – Select CB Doran Grant from Ohio State or Josh Shaw from USC

I got this Covered…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 16, 2015 5:21 pm
Reply to  paulman

Theres going to be a run on OL in this draft IMO so if the best is near 20 stay at 20 and get a stud if you can.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 5:36 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I kind of like this DJ Humphries from Florida or Cameron Erving of Fla State who I would Draft and can play Center, Guard and Probably RT at the NFL Level.. Start in at RG in place of Herremans between Kelce & Lane Johnson
DJ Humphries projects as an OT and will still need a Year to Groom
I think Fisher from Oregon would also be a good Pick for he can Play
Guard from Day #1

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 16, 2015 7:15 pm
Reply to  paulman

I like Erving and Fisher most athletic of the bunch and I think will be gone by late second. Drafting a young mauler they can hold onto Mathis before letting him go next offseason. I don’t think Mathis gets traded.

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 4:51 pm

According to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen, the Eagles would trade Matt Barkley for “a late draft pick.”
Just not a very talented player, Barkley lacks NFL-caliber arm strength and athleticism. The Eagles would do well to get a sixth-round pick for him. He’s struggled to beat out G.J. Kinne for third-string duties in Philadelphia, with only Barkley’s higher draft status keeping him on the roster.
Source: Chris Mortensen on Twitter
Mar 16 – 4:36 PM

nice. another chip kelly reach draft pick/bust

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 16, 2015 5:20 pm
Reply to  mhenski

They could have drafted Geno Smith in the 2nd round like many on this site and this town wanted….

With a 4th round pick Barkley was worth the flier…no harm no foul at best he was going to be a backup.

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 16, 2015 7:01 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Except that they traded up for that bum ass and everyone and their momma knew his ass was garbage.

DCar
DCar
March 17, 2015 1:35 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Barkley sucks monkey dick, & is worthless! Never worth a flier. All USC QB’s are hot garbage, PERIOD!!!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 16, 2015 5:29 pm
Reply to  mhenski

mhenski…i’m sick of your tirades against Chip!

Stop with the bullshit

There is not a single team in the NFL that’s perfect on the draft

Everyone misses at some point and time

Get off of Chip’s ass because he got rid of your hero…

Stop with the bullshit!

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 5:33 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Fuck a nick foles he ain’t my hero and I give no fucks about him. Bradford = foles to me and maybe worse.

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2015 5:33 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Unlike u who actually had Eagles qb Heroes – Vick & Sanchez

DCar
DCar
March 17, 2015 1:37 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

We are all sick of your existence, so keep quiet, clueless!

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2015 5:33 pm
Reply to  mhenski

A 6th Round for Barkley is very doubtful… Maybe a 7th
Barkley will not be on the Eagles 2015 Roster regardless on where he was Drafted 2 Years Ago..

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2015 11:42 pm
Reply to  mhenski

By the reasoning of most on here Big Mhenski, we haven’t given him enough time to develop. He has only been in the league 3 years, and hasn’t had a chance.

There is no way you can tell that he can’t play, and isn’t an NFL QB like I said before he was drafted……..They always come around eventually…