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Anxiety Building For 2015 Draft

ChipKelly4There is something to say about being experienced in the NFL as a general manager, especially when it comes to running the “entire” draft process.

This will be the third draft for head coach Chip Kelly, his first with “full” control of every pick in every round.

I’m worried for a few reasons as the draft nears. Looking back at the 2014 draft class, in particular players selected in rounds 3-5, I realized how many other NFL teams had immediate value with their selections in these three rounds.

We know very little about these three players we selected in Huff, Watkins and Hart. We have to “hope” that Huff lives up to the expectation of being a starting wide receiver in the NFL, especially with how thin we are at that position group.

As for Watkins, the Eagles held the first pick in the fourth round, and I’m confident they received multiple offers by other NFL teams for that pick. They instead held onto the pick, drafted Watkins who barely saw the football field until week 17.

Across the league, teams that are winning Super Bowls are getting contribution from players in the mid to later rounds. They have coaches or general managers that have an “eye” for talent, and also find a way to get “talent” on the football field.

A few things happen when you don’t utilize your draft picks their rookie season. Besides questioning if these players will be successful in year two, you also have “incomplete” grades on them.
The Eagles need to find players that will impact the 2015 season, especially at the wide receiver, offensive guard and safety position.

I think Chip could select these three position groups in any order throughout the first three rounds, and if he plays his hand right, move down when the opportunity presents itself and come away with an extra pick or two.

What do I think Chip will do? I have it narrowed down to three strategies.

-The list of prospects visiting the Eagles pre-draft in addition to anyone from Oregon or the Pac-12 will be the only players taken on a “short” and “simple” list Chip has similar to his play selection page on game day. The word “reach” is not part of his vocabulary; he simply wants “his” guys and takes them when he thinks he should.

-Chip pulls off a deal for Mariota, sending players and picks in the next four drafts to get his quarterback.

-Chip makes some of his offseason moves look childish, sending picks and moving players throughout the draft, setting the NFL record for total trades made in one draft.

Jeff Kolsky

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Oldphillyfan
Oldphillyfan
April 16, 2015 8:54 am

The odds are a 3rd rd pick becoming a contributing player year 1 on a winning team is less than 15%. The odds for 4th through 7th round – less. Let’s get real about expectation and hope we can land 3 players who will eventually be solid starters.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
April 16, 2015 4:17 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

C’mon Jeff…the Rams, Jags, and Browns are all losing teams..

No Super Bowl are in the works for any of these teams and none of these teams will probably make the playoffs this year.

Lets get productive players…players with good film against good competition…no reaching…just some solid evaluations and you should be able to get 3 or 4 solid contributing players…

Oldphillyfan
Oldphillyfan
April 16, 2015 7:46 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Seriously? if the Jags, Rams and Browns picked so well, how do you explain the fact that they draft in the top 10 every year. Just look it up – if you get 3 players in the draft, you beat the odds.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 16, 2015 9:54 am

We3’ll find out soon enough.

There’s an open spot at RG – so that’s probably a 1st round pick that will ‘have’ to start
There’s an open spot at CB – is that a 2nd round pick to start?
There’s an open spot at S – is that a 3rd round pick to start?
Bymid-season (after 3 games till the yearly Bradford injury and 3 games of cring-worthy Sanchez play) there will be an open stop at QB – is that a 4th round pick to start?

I also forgot about the fact that the WR corps is Promising Matthews, “Lets hope” Huff, Useless Cooper and Miles “good in 2009” Austin…..so

Going to need a draft contributor there.

And someone somewhere will get hurt….so Birds will need another draft contributor there too.

So do’t worry Jeff, I think you’re going to see a lot of rookie contributors this year, whether they’re ready or not.

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 10:06 am

Vinnie…remember where you heard this. The WRs need some work I agree. J Matt will follow the same path as D Jack and Maclin. He will make the second year leap after a very good rookie year and put up those same kind of numbers as the other two. 80+ catches, 1200+ yards, 10+ TDs. We have a semi-number one WR. Don’t worry about that. It is just that the rest are James Thrash and Todd Pinkston and Na Brown and Antonio Freeman. However, we did get to three NFCCs without anyone even as good as J Matt. And Ertz is better than Chad Lewis too. So relax on the WR department. The secondary is a huge concern and trading Mathis from this O line would be insanity. We already have a hole. We don’t need to open another one. Guards play good ball until 36-37 years old. 33 is not ancient there.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 16, 2015 10:28 am
Reply to  jbird

I’m not concerned about the WR position. I think my position has been pretty clear, WR and RB are the two most overrated positions in sports. Teams can win just fine with average WR corps. In fact, my position is that “superstar” WRs are often a detriment to a team’s offensive production. (Easy to defend one diva who commands/demands the ball constantly)

I really like Matthews and agree with you that he will be very productive for years to come. I think (hope) Huff will surprise.

Depth (or lack thereof) is a big problem however….and all I am saying is there will have to be some rookie production there because the team cannot count on Cooper and Austin to be anything except Cooper and Austin……especially if/when someone gets a tweak and misses a game or 2.

My point was, I think there are still too many open spots on the roster and hoping 3 or 4 rooks will be ready to just jump in and be all-good is a tall order.

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 10:11 am

Two things I do NOT want to do. NUMBER ONE!!! Do niot take fucking Armstead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to fill a hole. DO NOT take a player for our strongest position group. I will bet my left nut this kid will never be better than Fletcher Cox. So that is a waste of ANOTHER first round pick. NUMBER TWO!! If he wants Mariotta he needs to give up anything but our second round pick. We need at least one other good player this year beside the QB. We need to get a starter in the secondary or we are a .500 team regardless of QB.

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 10:47 am
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Jeff. I was always fine with starting Carroll on one side. Thurmond is as meaningless as signing Austin. He should be counted on for nothing. They won’t like L Collins although I think they can make it work. He is a special talent. If Billy Loves the Steelers so much this guy can definitely be your Polamalu. Fisher gives you your LT-C-RT for the long term future. Guards area lot easier to find down the line and he can play RG this year.

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 10:36 am

I can tolerate almost anything else they do. I don’t want an edge rusher either. We have that covered. Take a corner or just draft Fisher if you have to have an Oregon guy to sleep at night. But I would try to trade down a bit and pick up another pick if they want a Byron Jones or Jake Fisher. They can be had around 26-32. They could get a second round pick to move down that far or at least replace the 2016 pick they gave the Rams. I think WR can be had after round one. We don’t need a HOF WR. We just need a solid starter that can catch 60-70 balls and push for a thousand yards consistently. Mathews will be a top ten WR in the coming years. So in review. No DL. No RB. No WR. No TE. No LB. Mariota, OL, S or CB. Notice I didn’t say QB. If they draft Hunley at 20, I will jump off the Walt Whitman.

seansyh
seansyh
April 16, 2015 10:59 am
Reply to  jbird

I think you hit the nail on the head jbird. I would like to see them trade back a few spots in the first and take Byron Jones. Guy can play CB or Safety on this team which are two spots where we need depth. Then move up in the 2nd for Aglohor or Fisher.

I can see all 3 guys being successful on this team.

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 11:21 am
Reply to  seansyh

Never thought of that. Great plan Sean! Draft Jones around 27, get 27 and 61 for number 20. Then trade 52 and 61 to move up around 40 and grab Fisher or Agholor if Fisher goes first. We need to plug that hole more than we need a number two WR. He gives you your framework for the futrue too with Lane at LT, Kelce at C and Fisher at RT in two years.

paulman
paulman
April 16, 2015 1:12 pm
Reply to  jbird

It’s almost impossible to me to envision trading back from #20 to the Colts and getting their 1st and 2nd Round Picks in Return (#27 & #61)
I believe the more realistic Value would be the Colts 3rd Round Pick # 93 so it would be the Eagles sending the Colts their #20th Pick for their # 27 & # 93rd Selections

(Last Year Eagles Sent the #22nd Pick to the Browns for their #26th and their 3rd Round Pick, which was the 86th Picks)

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 1:35 pm
Reply to  paulman

I don’t know. I bet they love L Collins and we don’t see him as a fit. They are in desperate need of safety help. Grigson is an idiot as well don’t forget. Part of our old gang of bunglers.

seansyh
seansyh
April 16, 2015 11:01 am

Also, unless a team is willing to give up a 4th round pick or better for Curry I say we keep him and let him walk after the season. Vinny Curry quietly had 9 sacks last year in a super limited role. I think having him on the team is way more valuable than a 5th+ rounder even though I’m sure other teams around the NFL don’t see him as being that valuable.

paulman
paulman
April 16, 2015 1:17 pm
Reply to  seansyh

Eagles really need to decide on what to do with Vinny Curry…
He either needs to get more Snaps and therefore more Sack Opportunities
and turn him loose .. He would get Double-Digit Sack Totals if he gets 25 Snaps a Game.. I expect him to get on the field more and split pass-rushing Reps with Brandon Graham.. We may even see Curry standing up and moving around in some Formations.. (similar to what Terrell Suggs does with the Ravens)

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
April 16, 2015 4:19 pm
Reply to  seansyh

Curry should get some more playing time…especially in obvious passing situations…with Trent gone he can get some more snaps in place of Brandon Graham

paulman
paulman
April 16, 2015 11:14 am

Sorry to Pour Water on this “Draft-Fest” to help Eagles fill out the 2015 Roster Needs, but it’s very unlikely that there will be no CB or Safety from this Eagles Draft who will be ready to Start early in 2015.. and probably no WR selected in this Draft who will Start as they will be a Rotational WR’s their First Season or two which is what Kelly Prefers..
An OL Selected early has a chance to compete for Playing Time but the Eagles Feel Good about Barbree, Gardner and Tobin all competing for that
RG Spot and Possibly the LG Spot if Mathis is moved
In other-words, there are no Silver Bullets picking at #20 each Round in this Draft where 3-4-5 Rookies are going to step in Start or Play a significant Role in 2015.. Safety Position will be among 3-4 Current Eagles
as will CB Starters Spot… The WR Corps will be Matthews,Huff,Cooper and Austin as the Top 4 with Draft Picks, battling it out for Playing Time

If Safety Landon Collins drops to #20, he could compete for Starters Job,
Even if Eagles move up and Select QB Mariota, it is likely that Mark Sanchez would Start the Season until Mariota was up to Speed
The Draft is about the Future, and If you are looking to fill Open Needs with Rookies, you are either a Bad Team to begin with or really fortunate that the Rookie Selected is wise and special beyond his years.. Sometimes Rookies are forced to Play due to Injuries, etc,etc

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
April 16, 2015 4:47 pm
Reply to  paulman

Pretty good analysis paulman…but i dont believe the Eagles like Collins…I question his coverage skills. What has to stop is the over-blown anxiety as if the Eagles are the only team with holes…there are no super dominant team with no holes at all…
We will be able to get some solid contributors out of this draft…some help on the OLine, a good WR prospect, some good cornerback prospect.

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 11:25 am

Paul…I feel prety sure if a rookie cannot step in and play solid football, we are a .500 team.this year and it will definitely be about the future because there is not present. Miami, Buff NO NYG and Atl will all be mproved this year. No way we win ten games again against that schedule with a secondary of Maxwell, Jenkins, Carroll and Wolff/Watkins.

seansyh
seansyh
April 16, 2015 12:17 pm
Reply to  jbird

I disagree that MIA, NO, and ATL will be all that improved. Miami’s defense isn’t great and they lost a lot of depth at linebacker/secondary and no longer have Mike Wallace. New Orleans lost just about every offensive option they had and haven’t gotten much better on D. Atlanta has signed a bunch of free agents but Matt Ryan is on the decline and their offensive line is one of the worst in the league. Pair that with a non-existent running game and you have yourself a sub-par team. We should beat Washington twice, Giants once, Dallas once, Jets, New Orleans, Atlanta, Miami, and Tampa Bay, Carolina. At the very least those are all very winnable games.

Of the 8 home games we have, 3 are teams within the division. 4 out of the 5 others are dome/warm weather teams that don’t have success outside of their comfort zones. I expect to have another dominant season at home winning 6 or 7 out of the 8.

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 1:06 pm
Reply to  seansyh

Ariz is usually a loss. Best case we split AZ/Det. Buff and NE will both be losses. We always get our asses handed to us by former players and coaches. Not sure why but we just do. Shady has 27 carries for 189 yards. Add two divison losses. I doubt we sweep the South. 10-6 is possible if Bradford/Mariota learn fast, ST stay great, TOs get cut back and pass rush stays strong. We could win a first round game against the 8-8 South Champs if it plays out right. We know there will be 2-3 new teams in NFC playoffs. I would bet Seattle , Dal and GB are staying. Det is out.

paulman
paulman
April 16, 2015 1:38 pm
Reply to  jbird

New HC Dan Quinn will make the Falcons a more Physical Team up Front,though it will take a good 2 Off-Seasons to achieve this..
I expect them to Draft RB Gurley with their Top PIck and go to a more Beast-Mode Type of Offense where they Run the Ball more and have Ryan pick his spots to Pass instead of slinging it around 40 Times + per game like they have the last couple of Season.. The Need a TE, OL, DL and LB’s.. They could also look to Trade Back in the Draft from their #8 Slot or Take the Best Pass-Rusher on the Board which is a big-time need

paulman
paulman
April 16, 2015 12:43 pm
Reply to  jbird

That’s about what the Eagles will be in 2015..
It’s very difficult to jell 8-9-10 New Starters and expect them to play as 1 Unit out of the gate and especially on Defense where 3/4 of the Secondary is Brand New and will be Playing for a New Secondary Coach who also is learning to acclimate his System to DC Davis’s Schemes.. Just a lot of “Newness” & “Unfamiliarity” on that back end of the Defense until they get some experience together …
Offensively, the QB is a Huge ? and the OL & WR Corps need Upgrades

Special Teams should be Strong,
the Eagles Schedule will be more difficult as Teams like the Dolphins,Bills,
Cardinals,Lions, Panthers, Saints, Falcons are all looking to improve and are in similar situations in Terms of taking that next Step to Win..

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 11:28 am

Paulman…if we stop being pussies, Peters can play right now. I don’t think its that deep whatever he did.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 16, 2015 12:18 pm
Reply to  jbird

getting kicked off your college team? yikes! that rarely happens–
also, if you are paying attention the NFL as a whole is more and more under scrutiny because of the so many low character guys that are getting caught being A.holes– He is trying to build a team void of them… I hardly think its being a pussy.

paulman
paulman
April 16, 2015 12:46 pm
Reply to  jbird

Peters will need Time, He hasn’t played Competitive Football of any kind since last October… It’s very unlikely that he is stepping in and Playing right away for any Team, although I do think he will become a Good NFL CB in time..

jbird
jbird
April 16, 2015 1:28 pm

I don’t see anything special about this Kevin Johnson from WF. I am already feeling myself being pissed off and disappointed after all this build up. I am seeing Arik Armstead, a safety reach followed by a WR reach, followed by a fat lazy OG (with high character) that never pans out. Then we go after edge rushers and corners in the late rounds. Two of the four get cut after the Jets game. Yea!!! All this hype for nothing 🙁

paulman
paulman
April 16, 2015 2:47 pm

This Draft is not all that Strong or Deep …
RB is very Deep and the Strength of this Draft Class
The OL is Deep with Solid Players at RT and the Interior (Guard/Center) but no real “Pro-Bowler Players at LT out of the gate..
The WR Class is Pretty Deep thru 4 Rounds with Size, Speed and Versatility
The QB Class is Weak and the TE Class is Invisible

Defense
Good Solid DT Class, Strong OLB Pass Rushers , but pretty weak with big strong, 4-3 DE’s Types which many Colleges simply don’t run much anymore
The ILB Class is Pretty Strong
CB Class is Deep, but not Top End or with Big-Time Playmakers.. Mostly 2nd Tier CB’s or Nickel Backs in my opinions
Safety Class is Pretty Weak.. Not much Depth at all

All in All, I give this Draft Class about a “C+” In Terms of NFL Talent and Play-Making Ability ..
Its a Real Shame the Eagles have Tied up $15-$17 Million a Year over the next 2-3 Seasons with their RB Corps in Murray, Matthews and Sproles when there is such a Strong Class this Year that would cost peanuts compared to the aging and injuries the Eagles have now …

After the Cuts of Veterans that the Eagles needed to make and had $50 Million Available in Free-Agency, they could have, should have stocked up on Secondary, Pass-Rushers in Free-Agency and then could have used this Draft to rebuild the OL, RB and add to the WR Corps ….
Always select from a Draft Class Strength when Possible .. Not stay away from it…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 16, 2015 3:31 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Isn’t the issue with that is its an “all-need” draft. And drafting only for need is always a recipe for disaster.

Though I do agree that the Eagles need to come out of the draft with 2 OL (at least – more like 3) because there is a major hole there right now, and 2 holes opening up next year.

Obviously they need a WR. There’s one good one on the roster. One with potential, and 2 scrubs.

And of course, there are still open roster positions at S and SB.

I also do not see how they can’t come out of the draft without a QB. Bradford is a giant question mark and Sanchez is a piece of shit. How can they not take a QB?

3 ol, 1 qb, 1wr, 2 S, 1 CB….all need picks save the 3rd ol….

paulman
paulman
April 16, 2015 3:37 pm

With the 8 Picks I would like to see 2 OL, 2 WR, 1 DL, 1 OLB and 2 DB’s

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
April 16, 2015 4:11 pm

Andrew Kulp
April 16, 2015, 2:00 pm

Chip Kelly can insist the Philadelphia Eagles need Kiko Alonso, DeMeco Ryans and Mychal Kendricks all he wants. I’ll believe it when I see it.

The offseason trade for Alonso and contract extension for Ryans has led to a ton of speculation about Kendricks’ future in Philadelphia. The fact that Kendricks is heading into the final year of his deal and has yet to be approached about re-signing is only adding fuel to the fire. And just to really fan the flames, the Eagles have been kicking the tires on a few interior linebackers heading into the draft.

If Alonso, Ryans and Kendricks are all going to be here in 2015, if Kendricks is part of the club’s future, what could the Eagles want with another interior linebacker? Clearly, something isn’t quite adding up here, no matter what the head coach says.

Denny Basens
Editor
April 16, 2015 4:13 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Agree 100%…I would be shocked if kendricks isn’t dealt sometime between now and the start of the season

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
April 16, 2015 4:29 pm
Reply to  Denny Basens

Kelly is holding some pieces that makes it look like a draft day move is coming… Wonder what it will be?

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 16, 2015 6:07 pm

Hey paulman that money won’t matter they gave to rbs once they get rid of mathis and Bradford that’d over 17million off the books…. I’ve said it once I’ll say it again the eagles can offer the most to the titans out of any team
Cox
Boykin
Mathis
Bradford
And #20 for the 2nd overall and Michael griffin
It’s a win win for both teams

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 17, 2015 10:28 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

so, you are thinking tennessee wants to add $17M to their books? mathis old and expensive maybe a one year player, bradford expensive, one year deal and crippled, cox going to be due a real nice contract after this year, boykin a decent nickle corner and i’m unsure of his contract….
Why would tennessee do this? HOw does TN win in this deal?

paulman
paulman
April 16, 2015 7:39 pm

***NFL News***
Dolphins Starting Guard Darren Colledge
Surprises the Dolphins by Deciding to Retire creating a bigger need for them
Along their OL..
Could Evan Mathis be on the move to South Florida
Maybe a package of both Mathis & Kendricks for
Draft Picks..

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 9:40 am
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Maybe use Mathis for a move up in a Round..

Send Mathis and 5th Rd for their 4th Round and move up a Round??
or a MAthis/Kendricks Package for Dion Jordan and a 2016 Draft Pick?

As far as Marcus Smith II goes, if he doesn’t show big time miprovement this Summer, he won’t even make the 53 Man Roster as Kelly will release him to throw more egg on Howie Roseman and to wipe his hands clean of MSII

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 8:04 am
Reply to  paulman

Paulman if anything it would mathis straight up for Dion jordan…. cause I’m still not sold on brandon graham as a pass rusher if they made the deal that’s what it would be in my opinion…. like Jeff said they don’t have 3rd already and it’s been rumors that there trying to trade up for 1 of the wr’s so that may cost them there 1st and 2nd Rd picks to move up so dion jordan might be the best the eagles could do which isn’t bad cause there is a need for Olb, since I think one of the main reason there gonna let kendricks go is cause they see marcus smith as a ilb and not a Olb..

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 10:27 am
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

and please get the thought of MSII playing Inside LB, he has shown to shy away from contract and doesn’t have the upper body and core strength to take on Blockers on the Inside.. He will either make it as a Edge-Rusher playing the Outside or not at all…

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 10:52 am
Reply to  paulman

Most mocks I see have the titans taking Leonard Williams I think the titans have ti ask themselves is he better than cox
If they feel like cox could be a monster for them then they may think about making the trade.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 17, 2015 10:57 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

you really don’t understand the business of football….

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 11:05 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Cigar I don’t understand the business I don’t understand how cox 5th yr option hasn’t been picked up yet nor do I understand how Kendricks hasn’t been given an extension hell or why Bradford hasn’t signed a extension either to drop that 13million dollar cap number wait maybe I do cause there all trade bait..

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 11:12 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

L Williams will earn $8-$10 Million or so under his Rookie Deal for the Next 4 Years with the Titans … Fletcher Cox could earn that much in a Single Season between his Salary and Bonus $$$ when he gets his next New Contract after 2015

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 11:20 am
Reply to  paulman

Paulman I understand the cap part of it but 1. Titans have money under the cap…. and 2. Who’s the better player

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 17, 2015 11:50 am
Reply to  paulman

gloomy..sorry bro I don’t pretend anymore to know exacttly what chip will/won’t do but i can tell you I cant see one reason the titans would make that trade..not a single

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 12:11 pm
Reply to  paulman

The Draft is always about Potential,
Many Scouts state that Leonard Williams is the actually the Top NFL Prospect in this entire Draft… Is he a Reggie Whte or a JJ Watt, probably not, but Teams will bank on that Hope of Potential almost every time when it gets to apples to apples… Cox has improved every Season but he is 26 going on 27 and when you compare his play to a Young 21-22 coming into the NFL, Teams will side with the youth and potential almost every time..

runtheball09
runtheball09
April 16, 2015 10:26 pm

Safety!!!!!

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 11:14 am

Hearing a lot of DT Arik Armstead Noise to the Eagles in the First Round which would probably require them to move up 5-8 Spots to get him..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 17, 2015 12:02 pm
Reply to  paulman

If so, it’s just that, noise! not happening.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 17, 2015 11:39 am

The Eagles better think about drafting OLB Pass Rushers.

Graham isn’t, and Barwin won’t have another aberration of a season; They’re not good enough at that position. They need to draft 2 OLB’s(HIGH IN THE DRAFT) There is a huge drop off after the mid 2nd Round.

This is why I feel they need more draft picks.

We need 2 WR’s –
I really want Breshard Perriman, and/ or Doriel Green- Beckham
2 OLB’s – I like Alvin “Bud” Dupree, and Owa Odighizuwa
2 Safeties – Landon Collins, and Jaquiski Tartt
2 CB – Quinton Rollins, and Eric Rowe
3 OL – Laken Tomlinson, Donovan Smith, and Jarvis Harrison

I also wouldn’t be against drafting another TE….Clive Warford, or Wes Saxton

and we don’t need a QB early, we only need one to replace Barkley.

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 11:59 am
Reply to  gmcliff

I like all these Players GMCliff
Problem is all these Players are listed in the Top 100 Players
where the Eagles only have 3 Selections…

How do they acquire additional Picks Picks to get some of them
Trade down from #20 which will net them an additional 3rd Rounder..
Trade or Package a Kendricks, Boykin or Mathis ?
Trade QB Sam Bradford and put 2015 Season into Sanchez’s hands?

When looking at Pass-Rushers the Eagles have under Contract.. Barwin,Graham,Curry combined for just under 30 Sacks between them last Year… Can Alonso,MSII add a few more along with the Remaining DL

The Top Pass Rushers will go early so Eagles will likely miss the boat
Dupree could still be on the Board and UCLA’s Odighizuwa will definitely be on the Board at #20 but not at #52 ..

I like TE Nick Boyle from your backyard there at University of Delaware

Watch for QB Trevor Simian from Northwestern as a late Round Pick-up
and ho missed most of his Senior Season with a Torn ACL.. Good Smart Kid, with Good Size & Feet & Athleticism at 6-3 220lbs and the kind of QB that Kelly likes..

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 17, 2015 12:24 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul, I was thinking about trading up to trade down….not for Mariota

Making deals with Washington, or Oakland, and possibly trading down several times to Cleveland for both picks, then possibly to New Orleans – for both picks…..

Far fetched, but brilliant if it could be pulled off…

That may garner 3-4 2nd’s, 2 or 3 3rd’s, 2 extra 4th’s, and possible future #1’s – Plus 3 – 1st Rounders this year.

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 1:10 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Can’t see that happening at all Cliff..

I can see Eagles Trading Back from #20 to #29 (Colts) and get their 3rd Round Pick for doing so (#93)
Then maybe Package a Kendricks or Mathis with a 4th Round Pick to
get a 3rd Round Pick from someone like the Falcons, Dolphins, Cowboys but that’s about it..

The Eagles Currently have 6 Picks out of the Top 156 Selections
If they can make a couple of moves to get 8 Picks in the Top 150 would be a great Start in Kelly’s 1st Draft . The Meat and Bones of this Draft as most Drafts are from # 25 – # 125

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 17, 2015 3:28 pm
Reply to  paulman

You think small Bruh…..LOL!!

and you’re right, they won’t because they have no one in the organization brilliant enough to come up with that strategy.

I call that aggressive, and getting what you need

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 12:04 pm

**Eagles having a PRivate Workout Monday with Shaq Thompson of Washington
who goes at 6-2 228lbs and wants to Play LB at the NFL Level which is unlikely to happen. on full-time basis. Most see him as a Safety, a Roving Type of LB, who can play all over the place, cover TE’s Big Receivers, Blitz, Support the Run kind of like a Troy Palomula did and many Scouts still think his best Position is actually at RB which shows you how talented this kid is.. The Guy is a mad-man who brings a lot of energy to the field and is always around the ball making plays and could be a nice 2nd Round Pick

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 17, 2015 12:13 pm

Summary

I’ll just sum up what I’ve read on this thread. According to GCobb posters the Eagles need:

2 OL, 2 S, 2 DB, 2WR, an OLB, and a TE….all the while trading up for Mariotta.

3 of the picks will have to start (OG, S, CB) and the rest will probably have to contribute this year (esp WR, another OL, TE and QB)

Eagles have 8 picks in the draft.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 17, 2015 12:27 pm

and your point is?

dtime
dtime
April 17, 2015 12:21 pm

Paulman/ Vinnie,

I hard for me to believe how badly the Eagles dealt with the quarterback situation. It bad enough that they trade away a young quarterback for a quarterback that can’t stay health and a second round pick. But it now seems the only reason they did it was to use it as a chip to get Mariota. Doesn’t it make more sense to do the trade on draft day to see if Mariota is available? If you had to make a bet who do you think will be the Eagles starting day quarterback?

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 12:43 pm
Reply to  dtime

I agree,
They could have used Nick Foles and their #20th Pick and would have probably had more interest than having Bradford who just doesn’t have enough recent Game Tape and a History of missing 3 of his 5 Years of Action due to Injury and a $13 million Price tag for 2015 where Foles was $1.5 Million
A Team who I thought they could have moved up with Foles was the Bears at # 7 .. Send Foles, Kendricks & 20th to the Bears along with 2016 1st Rounder and the Bears would probably been interested since they were Stuck with Cutler for 2015 but could have had the cheaper FOles compete and probably beat him out for their Starters Spot and then Dump Cutler or after 2015 since they had spent guaranteed $$ on him
I see no Upgrade in Sam Bradford over Nick Foles..
Bradford has more zip on his shorter, intermediate Passes, but Foles has the bigger arm and obviously is familiar with Kellys schemes which Bradford will have to learn this Summer on 2 Bad Knees

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 17, 2015 1:23 pm
Reply to  paulman

I have said the same think all along. Not only is the trade a “lateral” move, the timing of it (and compensation) is weird.

Why so early? What was the rush?

If it was a move for Mariotta then that’s been completely cocked up….especially now that we’ve learned the only other team allegedly interested in Bradford was Browns…and then only if Bradford agreed to jump into the 1/2 price bin. So the Browns are out. Who else is banging down the door for Bradford?

Do the Eagles already have another deal worked out with another team? Well, the way rumours leak out of the novocare centre, I doubt it.

Who is going to be the Eagles QB? I don’t know. Bradford should have the inside track…if only because Sanchez is putrid…..but he isn’t even throwing yet.

And I agree Paul…I think the Bears would have done that deal. Would they do that deal with Bradford? Nope. Can’t. Can’t tie up 30 million in the QB position. (though no guarantee Mariotta is there at 7)

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 12:24 pm

My Summary Vinnie

Eagles have 8 PIcks and need the Following

2 OL, 2 WR, 2 DB’s , 1 DL and 1 LB

I see no QB or TE or RB (though its a shame to miss on some of these RB’s in this Draft)

2 Safeties ? 1 TE ? in such a Weak Draft Class for these Positions
2 OLB’s … Who gets Cut or Traded to make room for 2 more OLB’s,
Regardless of what Cliff Says, The Eagles are obviously very happy with Conner Barwin (didn’t they redo his Contract after the Season) and then Resigned Graham to a nice Long-term Deal so adding 2 More OLB’s is not going to happen

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 17, 2015 12:32 pm
Reply to  paulman

I don’t think it’s so weak. There is talent that will pay immediate benefits, and there are some that will require coaching, patience, and time.

Like Nick Boyle. My Nephew plays DE for U of D, and Boyle is a heck of a blocker, but inconsistent hands, and very little athleticism, but could improve with time.

The Eagles were very happy with other players that have overachieved in the past as well. But it took the next season to them to see they really had nothing – see Jason Babin, Brodrick Bunkley, Stewart Bradley, and Trent Cole

– FYI – Keep that in mind all year Paul, and do not be surprised when that coach turns back into a pumpkin., and when Graham is his usual self…….They better draft 2 OLB’s

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 12:50 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

This is the weakest Draft Class from Top to Bottom in the last few Years in my opinion… Very Few Playmakers on Defense, Back-Up QB’s for the most part… Great RB’s, Some Good WR’s,& DT’s and LB’s but crappy TE’s & Safety’s..
Hell many people are talking about lots of CB’s converted to Safety which tells you that the Safety Class is Weak and that some of these CB’s are not pure CB’s for the NFL Level…
Some good Interior OL as well, RT are strong , LT is not

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 17, 2015 3:29 pm
Reply to  paulman

I disagree……depends on who you talk to…but I disagree

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 3:55 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Who do you see as Can’t Miss – Truly Impact Players from this Class
outside of RB… I see very Few..
All these Top OLB Pass-Rushers are on the Small-Light Side and probably will end up like a Jarvis Jones type due to lack of Strength..
Beasley, Edwards,Ray all go about 235-240lbs which won’t get it done at the NFL Level out of the gate..
I do like Dupree & Fowler and a DE named Preston Smith with the most NFL Upside as far as Pass-Rushers
I also like the UCLA Player you mentioned in Odighizuma who is pretty raw but who had Hip Surgery and Hip Issues, so who knows long term who his health and hips hold up …

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 17, 2015 4:20 pm
Reply to  paulman

For one, I don’t see any can’t miss RB’s in this class at all….AT ALL!!!

But, I think you confuse when I say good draft class, and lots of impact players. There doesn’t need to be a bunch of impact players in a draft fro it to be a good draft class….because the potential is there.

Most draft classes are over stated, and overhyped. It remains to be seen how much impact evolves from the draft….

Outside of Cox, Kendricks, and Boykins, Howies 1st draft, Chip didn’t think much of their impact, and the rest are rumored in draft day trades. So, is that class a wash???…….It’s beauty in the eyes of the beholder.

For me there is plenty of potential in this draft.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 17, 2015 12:41 pm
Reply to  paulman

Who gets cut???……Marcus Smith, Najee Goode, and an ILB to replace Kendricks…

There are also some other stiffs on the roster that shouldn’t be there as well.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 17, 2015 1:26 pm
Reply to  paulman

And this is the thing…all I have also read is how stocked this drat is at RB. And so the Birds go out and drop $11 million on 2 FA RBs? That’s doesn’t seem to make a ton of sense.

RBs are quick to acclimate to the NFL….its only blocking schemes that give them troubles, and the RO mitigates that. I think rook RBs can enter this system quickly…..seems to me would have been a better pla to use that FA $$ on a RG, or even upped the $$ a mill or 2 on McCourty.

Which would be better??

Murray and a rookie Safety or McCourty and a rookie RB?

I’ll take the latter every day of the week.

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 1:44 pm

I stated the same all Run to Free-Agency Vinnie..
Good RB’s can be had well into the 3rd & 4th Round
Eagles Mis-Spent their Resources with both Matthews and Murray
I can see adding 1 of them but both when Matthews and Sproles are the same kind of Back makes little sense…
I would not be surprised at all to see Sproles moved during a Draft Day Trade with the Jets, Texans or Cowboys

Stevo
Stevo
April 17, 2015 4:33 pm
Reply to  paulman

Matthews and Sproles are NOT the same. at all.

Stevo
Stevo
April 17, 2015 4:34 pm
Reply to  Stevo

7 inches and like 30 pound diff.

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 5:06 pm
Reply to  Stevo

My Bad,
I didn’t realize that Matthews is 6-0″‘ – 220lbs, He’s bigger than Murray is .. I thought he was closer to about 5-10″ – 200lbs
Sproles is about 5-7″ 190

seansyh
seansyh
April 17, 2015 1:01 pm

Hes my sleeper pick for the Eagles in this draft.

Think about it. The Eagles defensive scheme is similar to the Cover 3 scheme Seattle runs.(notice I say scheme and not talent)

Shaq Thompson is essentially the same size, speed, and physicality as Kam Chancellor. I doubt he will ever be as good, but I think Shaq could be effective in that same role

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 1:33 pm
Reply to  seansyh

You could very well be correct Sean… Good Observation..
I could easily see DC Billy Davis lining up Shaw Thompson all over the formation like Cam Chancellor and more like Troy Palomula which is closer to the Line of Scrimmage on Early Downs and Short-Yardage/Red Zone Situations and then also move to the SLot to Cover these Big Athletic TE’s that every Team has these Days.. DC Billy Davis did work for Dick LeBeau at Pittsburgh and I am sure would pattern his Schemes more like the Steelers did with Palomula,etc than the Cover 3 which Seattle plays..
The Big Difference is that the Seahawks CB’s can play Man to Man effectively and Free-Safety Earl Thomas can cover the Deep Middle all by himself allowing Kam Chancellor to roam the middle, underneath routes and go head hunting…

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 2:06 pm

Hey Paulman you do realize fletcher cox is only 24 right….. and I could see the eagles still trading Bradford even if they don’t get mariota I mean hell is he that much better than sanchez

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 17, 2015 2:46 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Yes.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 17, 2015 3:17 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

You better hope so.. They traded the guy that Sanchez backed up plus a pick for his crippled ass… He sure as hell better be better

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 4:05 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

No way would I Trade Fletcher Cox, he’s the Key to the Eagles DL & Front 7

As far as Trading Bradford, who wants him at $13 Million for 2015..
I can’t think of 1 Team that would trade for him for that kind of Salary on for Player with his Injury History..

Eagles & Kelly got snookered in that Deal Big F’n Time

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 4:12 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paulman I wouldn’t trade cox either but chip may think he’s the key to them mariota…. and the Browns already offered a 1st for him so somebody wants him I could also see the Jets,titans,Bengals,bears as also potential landing spots.

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 4:38 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Bears, Bengals already have Starting QB’s with big Contracts
JEts are giving Geno Smith every opportunity to succeed with their new Coaching Staff and the Titans could be possibly in Play..
The Browns already moved forward when they signed McCown and will now Draft a Young QB in the Draft (Possibly Mariota or Petty/Hundley in the 2nd Round

Unless a Playoff-Type Teams incurs an Injury at QB this Summer Camp, I see a very little Market for Sam Bradford, he just hasn’t shown enough in his limited play when he was healthy during his 5 Seasons in the NFL

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 5:02 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paulman Andy Dalton sucks so does cutler

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 10:04 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Dalton has give to Playoffs 3-4 Years in a row..
Sam Bradford Zippo Times..
Dalton has never missed a Game in
5 Seasons.. Bradford has missed 55% of his Career
Being injured..

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 3:28 pm

Hey cigar I think they only traded for Bradford in hopes of flipping him to get mariota I mean if they trade b Bradford they lose a 2nd but get a 3rd from the rams.

Stevo
Stevo
April 17, 2015 4:25 pm

You guys kill me…. Listen, I dont pretend to know what Chip is going to do but there are a few things that are clear as day here…

1. Kendricks, Boykins and Cox are all available at the right price…. sheesh… who isnt? If Bradford gets traded…IF…. then I think we can assume that one of these 3 gets a new deal IF they themselves are not part of the deal.

2. Foles was not who the coach wanted. The Eagles did NOT go all out …. pay crazy money to hire a coach and then make him have a QB he doesnt want. He didnt want him. Sorry… he didnt. And dont you think that if Foles was as amazing as Vinnie thinks he was that Andy would have found a way to get him? I get the injury concerns but come on…. Do you really not see that Foles has injury concerns and has 1/2 the skill set Bradford does? The overvaluing of some of our players over the years is mindboggling to me. Talk about homers!!

I believe the eagles will take a CB in round 1 unless they feel they can land MM at a fair price. I have no idea if MM will be any good… but seriously guys…. enough with the Foles junk already. He’s gone.. get over it.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
April 17, 2015 6:53 pm

Excellent points Stevo…the whining, bitching and moaning about the QB and other players on this team is ridiculous. The bottom line is simple…there are no untouchable players on this team….period! Chip is on the clock and he has to win…he should have the full latitude to acquire the players that he believes will fit in his system. It’s his ass that’s on the line!

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 17, 2015 7:00 pm

What exactly in 5 years in the league has Bradford shown of this “skill set” everyone talks about? What team did he put on his back and lead to playoff glory? Good QBs win, bad QBs lose
Look I believe a qb thrives in chips system… Hell even Vick and sanchez looked good sometimes. But what specifically has Bradford shown in 5 years that gives an eagles fan any confidence?

Stevo
Stevo
April 18, 2015 12:14 am
Reply to  haveacigar

The point is… The O staff had/has more faith in Bradford than Foles. They even threw in a 2nd to make it happen KNOWING if Bradford does stay… We have to pay him crazy money. Who gives a rats ass if he has shown enough for guys like you and me…. He has shown enough to his former coach who was with the both of them… At practice… Film room…. And such. Again… Threw in a 2nd rounder. Why are we still talking about this? Foles is gone… Get over it.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 7:06 pm

Honestly I’ll take a 2,3,and 5 for Bradford

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 17, 2015 8:03 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

And who is your qb?

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 9:10 pm

Hey cigar honestly it could,sanchez or a rookie hundley,petty,Grayson any of them hell trade him to buffalo for picks next yr and ej manuel.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 17, 2015 9:28 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

You need to step back from the bong young man

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 9:29 pm

Hell give me a 2,3& 5 and Johnny football over peg leg Bradford

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 9:31 pm

Hey cigar anything is better than a qb with a peg leg

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 9:33 pm

If the eagles didn’t give up a 2nd & and if he wasn’t getting the 13million maybe I would be cool with him here.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 17, 2015 9:40 pm

Lots of ifs in your comment

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 9:42 pm

Hell if the eagles want to they can own the draft
Flip Bradford to the Browns for 2,3,5 and Johnny football
Then trade 20 to the Raiders for their 2,3,5
Flip Kendricks to jags for 2,5
Not to mention you could also trade Boykin and curry for more picks
If chip is smart he could own the draft

deserteagle
deserteagle
April 17, 2015 9:45 pm

chips FA fast pace 3 card Monty ,left chip holding the 11.9 million $ gimp..at q.b. I read with complete agreement dtime..s evaluation of chips fool hearty abruptness in which he moved shady,wanting draft picks allegedly…then he moves swiftly ,weakening his draft positioning ,moving another asset in foles at $1.5 …we will never know what foles true value was to neophyte coaches on the clock on draft day from an Eagles perspective,but,the rams may reveal that ,by moving foles on draft day..This could be very embarrasing for this ego driven maniac.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 9:53 pm

If they did like I said they would have
4- 2nd Rd picks
3- 3rd Rd picks
1- 4th Rd pick
5- 5th rd picks

deserteagle
deserteagle
April 17, 2015 9:56 pm

Gloomy the Browns are off the sam I am train,as sam won’t redo his contract with the Browns..we played musical chairs on the deck of the titanic with this mess and the musicians just stopped playing…

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 10:05 pm

Hey the Browns may look it as if we don’t have to give up a 1st and we get to get rid of Johnny football abd we still can make two 1st Rd picks

deserteagle
deserteagle
April 17, 2015 10:06 pm

When they were offered clevelands one the Rams didn’t tell quite the whole story to chip..the Rams we offered a one (number 19) if sam I am ,would rstructure a long term deal..he balked ..he also balked at doing the same thing ,when the Rams asked him to redo his deal after missing 50 percent of the past four seasons.In comes chip ,he alleged offering picks,not foles ,and he leaves with Sam I am ,(no structured deal) ,so technically a one and done at a huge $$ number ,and no guarantees he’ll be healthy? He also said I wanted picks for shady ,and left with kiko..Now that may be a better outcome,but ,also an injury plagued season ..how do you in two attempts go into the deal wanting A …and you come out with B and you lost ground by giving up a 2 to boot..Being it was rumored the Rams wanted to restructure SAMs deal or possibly release him ..Think about that …now you have him for nothing ,with zero leverage to stall negotiations,and you still have Nick foles in your draft day pocket ..you may have fucked any opportunity you had to obtain the head duck of all ducks ..you got webbed feet and waddle away with Sam I am ,possibly for one season ..and in last years draft you got a pretty good prospect with your second round pick in MATTHEWS …What if you stink and your two is a really high number 2 …at worst you couldn’t have come out of sam I am with a conditional 2? I’m not buying it…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 17, 2015 10:52 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

$$ post. The whole thing was a complete cock up.

deserteagle
deserteagle
April 17, 2015 10:10 pm

Gloomy ..so to clean up the mess that chips made of this off season your remedy is johnny football in a bigger fishbowl than cleveland ?

paulman
paulman
April 17, 2015 10:13 pm

Browns offered Rams a 1st Rounder and decided to
Let it be after Bradford balked about a restructure of his deal
Browns said screw it , signed Josh McCown
To be the bridge of a young QB they Select in this years Draft
Equipped with the 12th & 19th Picks, the Browns are
Sitting pretty to Draft a QB early if they want
Or could use the 2nd Round a QB

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 10:14 pm

He could just use a change of cenary…. if chip came out and made those moves I would call him a great makeup for this bad offseason.

deserteagle
deserteagle
April 17, 2015 10:17 pm

All the extra picks are a good formula ,but in reality ,guys that drop ,drop for a reason ,and we have real holes to fill.In the structure of the roster as it now stands there are holes at OL Safety,Cb and you’re relying on your back up qb at the moment ,since sam ain’t guranteed ..With all those realities ,Id want to move up and get real chance guys ,because of my real needs for starters ..Let’s not forget ,filling ably holes on defense ,only matters if bill davis utilizes and schemes properly …milk just blew out of my nostrils laughing..

deserteagle
deserteagle
April 17, 2015 10:20 pm

Paul man ..my one hope is that cleveland is so scared of messing up two number ones ..they may be persuaded on a sure thing..chip could water board sam I am with sport science drinks and make him sign or his brains on the contract ..

paulman
paulman
April 18, 2015 10:24 am
Reply to  deserteagle

Browns are in the Catbird Seat as they
Can Offer their #12 & #19 to the Raiders,
Redskins,Jets or Bears and Select Mariota
If they so chose..
I’ve said all off-season that the Browns would be
The only Team really interested in Mariota and Kelly knows this
Which is why he & Fisher were pumping up Bradford
To get the Browns out of the Picture..
But the Browns did fall for this and now Chip appears to be holding the bag
On a $13 Million QB with bad knees… Dumb-Ass Move by Chip..

deserteagle
deserteagle
April 17, 2015 10:33 pm

Look guys we all really have a lot riding on this season,who bleed green jello..we all understand and can rip the unorthodox ,novice ,seemingly naievity ,that our new GM has shown..He’s made mistakes ,he danced around moving shady quicker than his two minute drill,and he went into St.louis and bailed coach Fischer out ..so far he seems more like Robin Hood than chip kelly ..he handed coach ryan in buffalo a rushing champion …once removed ..he robs from the rich and drives to the poor …and he’s starting to worry me ..Andy’s at 400lbs as he has had ribs and extra sauce in BBQ since maclin arrived ..

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 17, 2015 10:48 pm

Honestly if that 1st isn’t gonna land us mariota I rather have the 2,3,5 more options so even if the Browns are desperate at the last min and know they move up for mariota make the deal chip 2,3,5, and Johnny football for Bradford own the draft unless it’s certain with the extra 1st you can get mariota…

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 17, 2015 11:46 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Mariota is being blown up so unnecessarily. Watch him flop as a pro….

daggolden
daggolden
April 18, 2015 5:41 am

We will all be disappointed draft day.

daggolden
daggolden
April 18, 2015 5:50 am

My personal sleeper is TE Jesse James out of PSU. I think his going to be a stud in a TE friendly offense. Put his 6’7 inch frame in the redzone with Ertz its a matchup nightmare for opposing defenses. I wouldn’t mind grabbing him In the 4th-5th round.

daggolden
daggolden
April 18, 2015 6:37 am
Reply to  daggolden

Redzone woes fixed. You put Jesse James and Ertz on the field with Matthews and a 1st round WR with Sproles or Murray in the backfield. Matchup nightmare for opposing defense in the redzone.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 18, 2015 9:07 am
Reply to  daggolden

He would be a great replacement for Celek in case they decided to move on from him.

Wes Saxton would also be a good prospect as well.