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It’s Gotten Personal Between Evan Mathis And The Eagles

EvanMathis21You read that the title of this article correctly.  It’s gotten personal between Eagles Pro Bowl left guard Evan Mathis and team head coach and GM Chip Kelly.  It’s very simple, Mathis feels the Birds took a million dollar salary increase off the board and he’s really right they did.

The Eagles dd it because the front office has changed.  Howie Roseman was running things when that offer was made, but he’s no longer running the show.  Now, I don’t think this is going to get worked out.

Here’s how ProFootballTalk.com lays it all out very clearly.

“On the surface, the impression is that Mathis wants more money, but the team won’t give it to him. At a deeper level, Mathis believes the truth is that the team previously offered to adjust his contract, but that it now won’t.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Mathis contends that the Eagles previously offered to increase the salary paid to Mathis by roughly $1 million per year, from 2014 through 2016. Mathis opted not to accept it in 2014, but he was interested in accepting it in 2015. But the Eagles, per the source, told Mathis that the offer was no longer available because Howie Roseman, who had made the offer, was no longer the General Manager.”

Kelly doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy, who is going to give in to Mathis and the left guard seems to holding his own.  Right now, I don’t think Mathis is going to play for the Birds this season.

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Oldphillyfan
Oldphillyfan
June 10, 2015 9:29 am

How many people give up $5,000,000? If another team doesn’t trade for him, (doubtful) what are his options? Question is, does Chip want a disgruntled player in his locker room? If Chip wants him back, I’m sure they can work something out.

greenfan
greenfan
June 10, 2015 9:42 am

Mathis is a stooge. He rejected the offer in 2014…and then comes back and says that he would like to now accept the offer….after he was injured last year and is another year older.

In what world is he living that he thinks it works this way? Rosenhause-land I guess.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 10, 2015 9:53 am
Reply to  greenfan

yeah, seems like mathis and his agent played this wrong.. should have taken the million extra!

andrew p
andrew p
June 10, 2015 11:19 am

This is all rosenhaus, Mathis got caught up listening to that idiot n now he’s jammed up, not only with the coaches but now his teammates, Rosenhaus strikes again!

paulman
paulman
June 10, 2015 11:30 am

Unless Mathis does anabout face here… He’s Gone..
Kelly is not going to cave in, Other Teammates are now questioning MAthis’s Loyalty, etc,etc, to be honest, it’s best for everyone if Mathis just moves on..
I believe Chip Kelly will release him if he is unable to work out a Trade before Camp even opens…
Word is that the KC Chiefs are interested and offering their 6th Round Pick in 2016 , the 49ers,Falcons and Colts are also interested but at a Reduced Salary $$$ which likely won’t work.. Many Teams around the NFL do not have $5.5 Million allocated for a Guard this late in the Off-Season..
What happened last Year under the Previous Front Office is water under the bridge at this point but Kelly is not going to have this Distraction around his Team over the Summer I can tell you that..

zilents44
zilents44
June 10, 2015 11:37 am

Thank you pman without your great insight I would have never known that……Where would we be without the great pman predicting everything knowing nothing

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 10, 2015 12:19 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Yeah that’s an earth shattering prediction! And just to be a contrarian I’m gonna say they kiss and make up.
Also, ‘word is so and so are trying to get him’ word from who?

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 10, 2015 12:21 pm

If this report is true about him turning down a million more per year going into his 33 and 34 year then Rosenhouse should lose his agents license… Wow

daggolden
daggolden
June 10, 2015 1:40 pm

Just imagine Djax or Shady pulling this me me me shit they would be crucified.lol. Good ole boy Mathis gets a pass. He can come back. There would be 1000 cut that one trick ponies ass comments. All i read is they can work something out. Fuck that cut his selfish, distraction, not buying in ass. Fans pick and choose who the fuck gets bashed. Why is the good ole boy not getting bashed?

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 10, 2015 1:54 pm
Reply to  daggolden

I don’t think he’s getting a whole lot of support. Most think he’s gone. He was stupid, took stupid advice…. Enjoy buffalo or DC at reduced money, at least the meseans got a raise… Mathis is dumb

greenfan
greenfan
June 10, 2015 2:05 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Read my post above dag…what pass is he getting? Transparent agenda post aimed at starting the same old shit. Gets real old on here.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 10, 2015 2:52 pm
Reply to  daggolden

I think the issue is that when Djax was cut there was Maclin in the wings. McCoy gone and its Alonzo, Murray and Matthews coming in.

Mathis leaves? It’s David Molk time.

No one can be a fan of that!

I think Mathis is being a complete goof and will (should) be sliced. But that is only going to lead to problems.

greenfan
greenfan
June 10, 2015 3:46 pm

You know Vinnie, you are the only guy that ever mentions David Molk. Hell, I bet you think about him more than his mother. I have yet to see a single report saying that David Molk is doing anything these OTA’s, and he certainly is not Mathis’s backup.

I agree that it would be better if they can get past this shit and have Mathis back at practice, but if the All-Pro playing next to him does not really seem to care one way or the other, I tend to believe that we will be alright however it works out.

Mathis and Rosenhaus have overplayed their hand. He is already at a high salary for a guard of his age. The stupidly turned down the $3million raise ($1 mill each of the next 3 years), and then act surprised when the offer is gone after an injury and another year of age / playing. Just plain stupid, and his teammates see that also. Remember, along with T.O. many years ago, Rosenhaus is also the agent for McCoy along with Mathis. He clearly does not understand how Kelly runs his team. Unfortunate for the team and his clients.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 10, 2015 10:58 pm
Reply to  greenfan

Some of you have a really hard time with jokes.

greenfan
greenfan
June 11, 2015 8:06 am

I guess it must have been funny in Canada.

paulman
paulman
June 10, 2015 4:28 pm

David Molk most likely will not even Win a Roster Spot

It will be Dennis Kelly and Matt Tobin battling it out with the edge to Dennis Kelly

greenfan
greenfan
June 10, 2015 4:49 pm
Reply to  paulman

I don’t know where you are getting your information, but Allen Barbre has been running the 1st team left guard reps. Peter’s and Kelly have both made comments about how well he is playing in the OTA’s (grain of salt needed, there is no contact during the OTA’s).

paulman
paulman
June 10, 2015 9:13 pm
Reply to  greenfan

Barbre & Tobin have been getting Reps at both LG & RG
Word is that Dennis Kelly has stepped up at taking more and more Reps at RG
While Barbre is taking most Reps at LG with Tobin to be their Back-Ups
Andrew Gardner appears to be the 3rd OT and taking Reps at LT & RT
And the likely backup at OT if anything were to happen…

Mathis is a goner
Week #1 Starting OL (Barring Injury) from L to R
J Peters, A Barbre, J Kelce, D Kelly & Lane Johnson…

Main Backups are Gardner, Tobin and 2 more Players to battle it out amongst the rest (Vandervelde, Molk, Graf, Boyko, Coccia, etc, etc)

seansyh
seansyh
June 11, 2015 4:15 pm

Eagles have officially released Evan Mathis.

paulman
paulman
June 11, 2015 5:24 pm
Reply to  seansyh

Yeah…. Chip Kelly’s Culture over Talent Wins out again..

mhenski
mhenski
June 11, 2015 4:19 pm

over under 3 minutes of a healthy bradford behind these scrub guards this year

mhenski
mhenski
June 11, 2015 4:27 pm

FIRECHIP THIS SHITS OUTTA HAND

paulman
paulman
June 11, 2015 5:23 pm

****Eagles Rumors****
Eagles Sign Mike McGlynn, who was cut by the Colts, to beef up their OL
Good Grief….

daggolden
daggolden
June 11, 2015 5:41 pm

Evan Mathis was just asked if he was reporting next week. He said yes he had his flight booked for next Monday he was showing up. lol

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 11, 2015 5:51 pm

Evan Mathis played himself. Point blank period. And judging by his teammates he seems like the guy who bitches and moans about his situation 24/7.

They gave you chance to find a better deal for two years…offered you an increase last year…and it’s the teams fault?

Eagles should be faulted for not bringing in more vets, however they have preseason to shake trees etc.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 11, 2015 5:53 pm

Damn chip isn’t racist… He is prejudiced against stupid people. Anyone want to bet Mathis doesn’t get $12 over the next two.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 11, 2015 5:58 pm

Well…an injury prone QB and an injury prone RB behind a questionable line.

This should be fun.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 11, 2015 6:01 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

The sky was falling without desean now without Mathis. Rosters are fluid in the nfl .

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 11, 2015 7:18 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Oh wait..did we make the playoffs last year?

No? Okay.

So it’s not about the sky falling. It’s about progress. Until we see that, the rest is just green kool-aid drinking.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
June 11, 2015 7:29 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

GULP GULP GULP, BIG SWIGS!!!

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 1:13 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

He slurps, gulps, & guzzles every front office’s spunk, I mean Kool aid, so why should now be any different?!?

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 7:40 am
Reply to  DCar

you are a class act DCAR–

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 11:21 am
Reply to  haveacigar

LMMFBO! Sorry, couldn’t help myself!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 11:34 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Talking about another mans ‘spunk’ is trashy and sick… Fits the profile

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 11:45 am
Reply to  haveacigar

It’s called having a sick sense of humor, & calling you out for what you are! A ball-less, ass munching, alter bowing, ball slurper! Nothing less, nothing more! Wash the sand out your mangina! Go ahead, do what you do best, spin, spin spin, turn on others to fail to attempt to make them look bad! BLAH..BLAH…BLAH…. Beat son, the only trash on here, is your lying, condescending ass! Go party with your pristine family, & rich & powerful neighbors, that you fantasize about!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 11:51 am
Reply to  haveacigar

It’s actually kind of gay…. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 11:59 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Gay, says the daily man-slurper, with the imaginary pristine family, & so-called black wife, that you try to impress the AA posters with, to not make them think you are the bigot, white bread chump that you are! Not only are you a bigot, you are homophobe, a condescending WASP snob, but are a liar, & an asshole! Give me a break chump, & give it a rest! You already are a huge joke! Don’t make it worse!

paulman
paulman
June 11, 2015 6:24 pm

Eagles will likely have 5 new Starters on Offense
2 Guards, a New QB, RB & Rookie WR ..

And 4 new Starters on Defense
2 CB’s , A Safety and Graham at OLB and possibly Alonso over Ryan’s at ILB
Which makes this Summer Camp one of the most exciting and competitive ones in years .. Even this years Pre-Season Games will Be important for everyone when this many new Players are Starting and a lot of back up Positions are being battled for…

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 11, 2015 6:33 pm
Reply to  paulman

When Kelly chopped rosebud at his knees it was a fore gone conclusion that this was coming. This is a very interesting experiment.

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 1:17 am
Reply to  haveacigar

YEAH, interesting experiment, in a coaches 3rd season, when his roster & coaching should be contending for a SB, not rebuilding, decimating a roster, & starting over! Real fans don’t take interest in story lines, experiments, & company BS, they want winners, good players, & competent front offices, that do EVERYTHING possible to BETTER the team, not take lesser talent, because you can’t handle attitudes, & egos! GTFOH, you fraud!!!!!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 6:21 am
Reply to  DCar

Because I choose not to whine and get pissed off over something I have no control over does not mean I’m drinking the kool aid. When chip has done something I didn’t like, I stated my piece and move on. I was vocal about Foles and didn’t like it, then you move on and hope sam is the man. When they hired Kelly, I didn’t like it, stated it and move on and route for my team and hope for they win it all. That’s a real fan.

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 11:32 am
Reply to  haveacigar

No that’s not a real fan. A real fan don’t drink Kool-aid & except all the BS they spew to you! Real fans don’t except mediocrity, stupid decisions, condescending jokes as Architects of our teams! Real fans, that invest time, emotions, $$$, bonding them with their family with sports, don’t accept frauds, who don’t deserve, nor should have their jobs. Real fans don’t say oh well, I can’t do anything, so should just accept it! You are a clueless, clown, who is just in it for entertainment value only! You ain’t a fan, & you show it everyday by your Front office enabling, excuse making, lap dogging, & acceptance of failure! You never bring ANYTHING of value, no ideas, no conversation, nor acumen of any kind! All you do, is condescendingly rip other posters, make snide remarks, make shit up about posters you don’t know, & make yourself look like a giant, know-nothing, condescending, douchebag, asshole!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 11:43 am
Reply to  DCar

I believe you will be HAPPIER if Kelly’s vision fails…. Yes you are a fan

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 11:53 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Vision? What vision??? Decimate a team, that only needed additions to the secondary, O-line depth, & a #1 WR! The vision, that in his 3rd season, when he should be in the stages of contending for a Championship, he completely went the rebuild mode? The vision where you release, & trade players for no returns, nor value! He is a fucking condescending, lying fraud, who does not belong in the NFL! Like Biglion, & I said from day 1! He has already failed! What exactly has he ever won! STUGOTS, that’s what! ZERO National Championships! Ran like a bitch, when the NCAA where going to drop the hammer on his cheating, fraud ass, weasels his way to the Birds job, & won ZERO playoff games! SOOOOO genius, what vision, what genius? He is running an NFL team, not a Catholic League Choir team! Keep slurping assclown, you make my points, with each, stupid, clueless, factless, baseless post! Beat it chump!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 12:09 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

you will be so happy if he fails… but then again if he wins it all its a simple…”oh man i didn’t think it would work but kelly finally got us a championship’ — you are a fraud, a straight up, fair weather fucking fraud!
i don’t know if this will work and oh by the way NEITHER DO YOU– but he is trying to win, trying to win his way– i have a feeling if you were a man and you had the qualifications to get a job like this you’d do it your way without worrying about what some lonely, loser on a blog was saying…

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 12:46 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

YEAH, lonely loser on a blog, posts the POS who is on here 24/7, 365, & on Holiday weekends, reprimanding others, when he should be with his imaginary family, & BBQing, with his rich & powerful neighbors! Fucking hilariously classic! Please son, just stop, you kill yourself, with each key strike! Keep guessing what & who I am, it’s highly, thoroughly amusing! BTW, almost every idea I come up with, transactions, trades, & draft picks that I’ve suggested, since I’ve been on this site, has been practically spot on chump! It doesn’t take a genius, or a professional coach, or front office stooge, to have common sense, & a perfectly functioning brain! Like I said chump, wash the sand out of your mangina, get a clue, & take your meds for your irrational thoughts, & delusions! Beat it, you ain’t worth the juice that leaks out of a trash truck!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 12:11 pm
Reply to  DCar

Belicheat isn’t condescending? really? interesting!

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 12:48 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Kelly isn’t Belicheat, doesn’t have a Tom Brady, & I don’t give a fuck, nor was i talking about them, so your stupid rant is useless, & irrelevant!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 1:18 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Why do you go on with your miserable life. Cussing at people on blogs from your midnight ‘private security’ wink wink midnight shift

DCar
DCar
June 12, 2015 1:30 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Great comeback chump! When you can find such a miserable life that I lead, instead of the fantasy land, made up one that you lead/ lead, then come back to me! Until then, take your dirty mangina, & fraud, lying ass, & go take a long walk, off a short pier! Don’t waste my time, with ridiculous, baseless, fact-less comments, when you have NOTHING!! You are just as much as comedic relief, as Lil Bron-Bron, the stalking convict! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Have a good weekend, BBQing with your fantasy pristine family & rich & powerful neighbors, who love you! I’ll stay miserable with my miserable life, & my real family, really loving, & having for real fun, spending my for real $$$ that I make hustling at my for PT Private Security job, & my for real, real estate ventures, sales & accomplishments. GOD, I’m sooooooo miserable, & depressed now, because you say so!! BOO HOO!!!!! Beat it chump……

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 1:39 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Got some ribs on the smoker right now ! Having a Bloody Mary Sunday brunch , infused some vodka with hot peppers and bacon … Sounds interesting … Never tried it . Sorry you can’t make brunch as you are working ‘private security’ on the graveyard shift

paulman
paulman
June 11, 2015 6:27 pm

Vegas dropped the Eagles from a 60-1 Odds to 75-1 Odds of getting to the Super Bowl.. The Carolina Panthers have Replaced the Eagles as the 5th Best Team in the NFC Conference…

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 11, 2015 7:19 pm
Reply to  paulman

Panthers have an LT problem. If that gets fixed (Oher is not the answer IMO) then they are a legit contender.

Right now the Ealges are a HUGE question mark. Hard to have any idea of where they stand relative to other teams in the NFC.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
June 11, 2015 6:32 pm

Scheme and culture over talent. This year will be a true measure of that philosophy. The running game and Sam Bradford’s success will be a direct result of Chip’s decision not to draft O-linemen and now releasing Mathis. It will be very interesting…Can’t wait to see the results!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 11, 2015 6:47 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Alonzo has talent, maxwell, Bradford, Murray etc. having talent doesn’t mean you have to be an asshole (see shady, djax, Mathis)

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
June 11, 2015 6:59 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

There are some assholes on the Seahawks, Steelers, Cowboys etc…, get over it already… learn how to manage different personalities and attitudes. Speaking of assholes, Riley Cooper is still an Eagle..but he can block. Oh…I tend to think Chip has a little asshole in him also!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 11, 2015 8:47 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

So what? Are you a fan? Don’t you hope it works? That’s all you can do as a fan. Our only hope is that this guys philosophy and way of doing things is the next wave. Bitching and whining is wasted energy.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
June 11, 2015 9:18 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

So what…all those teams have superbowls with those assholes. Being a fan of the Eagles does not mean I have to agree or believe in everything Chip says and does as he is not the Eagles, just a steward of the team for the moment. I am a fan of talent..not Chip’s experiments and philosophies…whether a guy is an asshole or not does not mean Matt Tobin is going to get the job done. Chip is not the first guy to emphasize culture blah blah blah, put the best talent on the field that gives the fans something to cheer and get excited about as well as give the city a superbowl.
Isn’t this forum where we express our thoughts, feelings, concerns, and beliefs? Bitching and whining is a part of that…just like Rah Rah may I have another cup of green kool aid is!
As far as hoping it works, the blue print for winning a SB is out there, an elite, physical defense, a good QB, and a little luck in the staying healthy department. It’s football…just football.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 11, 2015 9:40 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

All I’m saying is they better win I’m so tired of Chip this Chip that dammit it ain’t about Chip it’s about the Eagles or so I thought.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 11, 2015 9:53 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

they absolutely better win… i was told all winter they are not allowed a backslide with foles at QB… fair enough. They got chips guys- no backslide whatsoever… win 11-13 games and win in playoffs- otherwise foles, shady, mathis, williams etc are correct…there is no rebuild– the rebuild is done. win now.

pdiddy
pdiddy
June 11, 2015 10:19 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Agreed Big, excuse my french but fuck chip. I’m sick of this motherfucker go back to college bro.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 11, 2015 9:47 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

If you choose to go thru life like that then more power to you… enjoy your miserable existence, bitching and moaning over things you can’t control.
We have a coach that is very different from the norm, i didn’t endorse him — i wanted a ‘normal coach’ (mccoy who went to SD)– they went another direction- i can bitch about it and cry etc… but what the fuck– they never asked me. All i can say is history is full of guys who did it their way and it worked out.. i’m hoping this one is our turn.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 11, 2015 8:58 pm

And if not he gets fired, we hire a retread and try again….

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 12, 2015 8:14 am

If you’re rolling with french, at least NA french, it’d be more like:

Estie-tabernak! J’ai le feu au cul. Catte plein de merde Chip Kelly avec le maudit “cul-ture”. Calise de Crisse, cette p’tit tata va chouetter l’equipe.

Roughly translated:

Holy Fuck! I am pissed. That piece of shit Chip Kelly and his damn “culture”. Holy Damn/Fuck/Shit (Chalice of Christ is a pretty universal slang that can be used for just about anything) that little idiot is going to ruin the team.

greenfan
greenfan
June 12, 2015 8:42 am

The sky is falling. We just cut a 34 year old lineman that is coming off an injury last season.

The whole season depends on the health of Bradford. If he stays healthy, and with the upgrades to this defense, this team will win.

Fans may act like it is “life or death” for them, but Kelly is the one who’s job is on the line. He is very aware of that fact, and he makes roster moves that he believes are in the best interest of forming a winning team.

Truth is, that with all of the talented players that Kelly cut, that team never won a playoff game. Those players were the core of a team that went 4-12, and basically quit on Reid.

Do I wish that Kelly could get these players to accept his program and be better teammates? Hell yes. But in the end, it is Kelly who is the one with the most to lose. I will wait to see this team actually play a game before I declare that we rush the NovaCare and remove Kelly at the end of a pitchfork.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 9:07 am
Reply to  greenfan

Well stated green fan. Seems that some of these so called fans want the following scenario week one: eagles first possession, 1st and 10from the 20, give to Murray stuffed no gain, 2nd 10 give to Murray loss of one third and 11 a blitz up the gut, Bradford sacked rips both knees and breaks his shoulder. It’s June, the guy has his players let it play out.

paulman
paulman
June 12, 2015 9:31 am

Kelly is Signed thru the 2017 Season..
2016 Will be the Make/Break Year for him as far as a long-term HC with the Eagles…
Whats happened this Off-Season really should have happened last Off-Season but Chip was handcuffed a bit for its very difficult to make major changes with a Team coming off a 10-6 NFC East Crown Season and a Home Playoff Game in 2013, which was unexpected when he took over which really shows you how bad the NFC East was…
Now in Year #3 he is finally molding the Roster in his Likeness
I expect it will be Year #4 & #5 when they start Winning again and get back into the Playoffs.. 2015 Season will be a Step Back

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 9:40 am
Reply to  paulman

‘Weak NFC east’ or maybe, just maybe the guy did a decent job of coaching up the players. But of course that wouldn’t fit the fraud man narrative

paulman
paulman
June 12, 2015 10:19 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Kelly did a good job of Maximizing AR’s Roster, that had a lot of young Talent on Offense and a pretty solid OL to work with… but Kelly knew he had to start cutting the chord with some Players to build the team in his likeness which is only normal when a New Coach comes in ..
The 2013 Teams had more Talent then a lame-duck 2012 Season of a 4-12 Team.. make no mistake about that… If I hear he took a 4-12 Team to the Playoffs one more time.. An offense with Vick,McCoy, D-Jax,Maclin,Celek, etc,etc,… The 2012 Team went 4-12 because they gave up and collectively as a Team were all looking out for themselves knowing that AR and his Staff were all goners but was a true reflection of the Offensive Talent that was on board which is probably why Chip Kelly took the JOb to begin with after initially turning it down…

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 10:25 am
Reply to  paulman

So , ‘he did a good job but….’ You are ridiculous . Vick hasn’t been a starter since, he took a third round project QB and made history, Jackson was part of a shitty team, celek wasn’t looking out for himself, he adapted and became a poster boy Kelly player. He took a RB who did not fit his system and made him a rushing champ….

paulman
paulman
June 12, 2015 10:42 am
Reply to  haveacigar

And the same Chip Kelly who Hired DC Billy Davis and Converted the Defense to a 3-4 Scheme, which they had little talent to be effective at it… Have had the worst Defensive Secondary when combining the 2013 & 2014 Stats on Big Plays given up thru the Air, Penalties, Passing TD’s given up, Yardage, Red-Zone Defense, etc, etc …

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 10:59 am
Reply to  paulman

Yup! And won a shitload of games. Converting to a 3-4 even using 4-3 players is a testament. I know optimism is a four letter word to you and failure is what you want (and you may get it) but the guy (who I did not want) has done pretty well. It remains to be seen if this latest frantic off season will work but if it does I’m sure you will jump on the wagon then criticize … It’s your track record

paulman
paulman
June 12, 2015 11:20 am
Reply to  haveacigar

and out of Eagles 20 Wins the last Two Seasons, How many of those were against Good Teams… You know, like Playoff Teams ?

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 11:40 am

Fraud , the year Kelly was hired I believe that Ariens, Bradley and McCoy was hired as well as somebody already fired from the browns … Ariens is solid took over a team with fitz and Palmer and some solid D pieces… Did a nice job, McCoy had a QB and made playoffs one of two years…. They all had talent, they’ve all made changes and Kelly has more than held his own.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 2:35 pm

As a point of reference, Belicheat and Walsh won a COMBINED 21 GAMES in their first two years. Both were unorthodox and consider ‘out there’– I was not happy with the kelly hiring but at this point I have no choice as a fan to hope he is the next big thing. He knows what he wants, he has a plan and he doesn’t give a fuck what any of us think- If it doesn’t work… well we hire a retread. maybe we finally get gus bradley in here who is floundering in Jax.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 12, 2015 2:50 pm

chuck noll won 6 games his first 2 years, parcells 11– I don’t know exactly how many superbowls those 4 (walsh, cheat, parcells and noll) won– but I think its like 14 or so… our guy has done better in his first two years than all of them. This isn’t kool aid, i’m hoping he is the next thing. Doing things different etc.
All of you who bitch and moan about him… if by chance you got hired for such a high profile, high pressure job — i guarantee you’d be the same way. let it play out– this year a nice playoff run, next year a SB? either that or he starts 2-6 and the pitchforks and torches come out!