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Chip Kelly On Sam Bradford’s Readiness For Training Camp

SamBradfordOTA39Most of the questions posed to Chip Kelly this morning were about the release of Evan Mathis, but near the end of the new conference Kelly was asked about quarterback Sam Bradford’s schedule for returning to action.

Kelly said Bradford still isn’t ready to participate in the full 11-on-11 team period.  He will continue to be a part of the 7-on-7 period, but he will be held out of the team period.

As for whether Bradford will be ready to go on August 2nd for the beginning of the team’s Training Camp, Kelly replied, “God, I hope so.”

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paulman
paulman
June 16, 2015 2:37 pm

Bradford is just beginning his “Phase 2” of his Rehab which will take a few more weeks before entering “Phase 3” which Kelly termed the Preparation Phase for when he’s 100% and fully up to speed and could actually play in a competitive NFL Game.. Bradford is probably about 60% right now in terms of movement and playing at the High Speed or a real NFL Game..

seansyh
seansyh
June 16, 2015 2:43 pm

Being less than a year removed from his second consecutive ACL surgery that’s not surprising. 90 days away from Week One, I’m not sure he will be 100% by then but at least he will be close.

Barring a setback I think Sam might be able to play before Week Three.

greenfan
greenfan
June 16, 2015 3:49 pm

That explains it.

“As for whether Bradford will be ready to go on August 2nd for the beginning of the team’s Training Camp, Kelly replied, “God, I hope so.””

This answers the question of why Tim Tebow is in camp. Additional prayers. Makes sense now.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 16, 2015 4:08 pm

Week 3, ‘God I hope not’….trade a starting qb and a 2 for a guy on a one year deal and he doesn’t play till week 3… No F.ing way!

paulman
paulman
June 16, 2015 4:16 pm

Not to beat to dead horse, but the Rams are very close to announcing a long-term Deal within the next few day with QB Nick Foles who they are ecstatic about and even Jeff Fisher and their GM have stated that Nick was so much more than they expected as far as his Arm Strength, Attitude, Preparedness, Coachability,Football IQ & his Leadership Skills…
the Deal is expected to be a 5 Year $75 Million-$80 Million range with $30 Million in Guaranteed $$$$
Chip Kelly F’d this whole QB situation up if you ask me…

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 16, 2015 4:32 pm
Reply to  paulman

Fraud I purposely left that off of my post! I hope what chip is doing wins us four SB… But I wonder what a conventional coach could be doing with some of the cast offs.

DCar
DCar
June 17, 2015 1:22 am

“God I hope so” doesn’t give me confidence, or change my mind, about “the genius’s capabilities! Dude is a lying fraud, in over his head, & will be back in college by next year, after the epic failure, & 6-7 win season to come!

paulman
paulman
June 17, 2015 8:11 am

On a Side Note,
GMCliff’s “Can’t Miss” Prospect at WR Da’Rick Rodgers has been Released by the KC Cheifs (his 3rd/4th NFL Team in 2 Years) …
How could GMCliff be so wrong about this troubled player with the many red-flags over his character & judgement since his College Days…
It appears the Bills, Colts and now the Cheifs all sided with Culture over Talent
In the case of Da’Rick Rodgers

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 17, 2015 10:50 am
Reply to  paulman

Are you referring to the suggested 6th – 7th round pick DaRick Rogers – That doesn’t sound like I thought he was “can’t miss” to me

– BTW, I have NEVER use the phrase can’t miss, but I wouldn’t change my feeling about Rogers, because still prefer his potential over most in the draft.

Are you still having attention issues Paul?? You’re not better at evaluating talent than I am Paul….I’m sorry, but you’re still pretty good – at football, but basketball….forget it….Gary Harris?? How could you be so wrong??…see what I mean??

You’re my boy, so I’m not going to just totally disrespect you, but Bruh it gets annoying when you see the need to mention any suggested prospect of mine that doesn’t live up to his potential – which aren’t many compared to yourself, and I don’t call you out on all of those -In fact, you have more than anyone else on this site……remember that…

Bruh, relax. If you feel the need to do that, also see the need to acknowledge all the hits as well…..I’m not ashamed of any prospect I’ve suggested…..LOL!!

Do you feel better now????…LOL!!!

paulman
paulman
June 17, 2015 12:13 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I don’t think Your Boy even got Drafted Cliff with all the baggage he had coming out.. Your the one who said he had more Talent and Upside than most of the WR’s in that Draft Class a couple Years ago not me…

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 17, 2015 1:40 pm
Reply to  paulman

He didn’t get drafted, and he does have more talent than a lot of other prospect, but you need more to actually be successful, and cultivating those things are up to the prospect – not the one who sees their talent…..He needs to learn to be the professional; That’s separate from his talent…

But that still didn’t mean he didn’t have the potential to be successful…I don’t regret suggesting him.

My point to you, is I never said he was can’t miss, and there is no need to even bring him up justify an opinion of my evaluation of him…

Stevo
Stevo
June 17, 2015 5:54 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Watching Cliff and Paul fight over who sucks less at talent eval’s is hillarious. Let us help you boys…. neither of you is any good at it. 1 flip flops.. the other cant remember what he says.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 18, 2015 12:38 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Let us help you????….You’re the only one talking, with no support – unless you also have multiple profiles……which I hope you don’t

Relax Stevo, we’re secure in ourselves enough to give less than a darn about how some feel about what we do….Thanks for the compliment though..

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 17, 2015 11:03 am
Reply to  paulman

And all this culture crap is just what the blind loyalist are buying into because they prefer not to question Chip’s decisions..

But how many of these “cultured” teams have won Superbowls???????

Patriots?? – LaGarrette Blount, Spygate, Deflategate – No
Seahawks?? – Marshawn Lynch – No
Eagles??? Haven’t won a SuperBowl ever…….We’ll see how culture trumps talent. FYI, Andy Reid never made a SuperBowl, until we signed Terrell Owens…….

Talent surrounded by structure trumps culture. Culture creates soft Football teams that don’t win Superbowls….

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 17, 2015 1:00 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

What I find amazing Cliff is when this LLCB was at Oregon he recruited every and anybody culture be damned. Look at the list of troubled souls who he personally recruited at Oregon. Now he’s in the NFL and its culture over talent? I guess you can be a talentless asshole but be all in and you’ll be just fine in Chip’s eyes.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 17, 2015 1:27 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Which makes it obvious Biggie that Ego is the issue here…

Chip doesn’t want anyone on this team that is going to challenge him, or cause a potential distraction to the team. All these players supporting Chip feel that way no, but as soon as they are cut you will here them sing a different tune, and some will think it’s news…

The old saying is that silence can be very loud. They don’t have to SAY anything, those who aren’t blind loyalist, and are street smarty can see right through the bull of Chip Kelly…..culture my ass; He’s an egomaniac…..

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
June 18, 2015 1:22 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I think his words were Culture beats Scheme…..

But I get you guys wanting to spin it into Culture beats talent..

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 18, 2015 1:31 pm
Reply to  Gotta Luv It

well his scheme has been successful — offensive records 10 wins, maybe now with the correct culture guys his scheme will translate to more quality wins.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 18, 2015 3:45 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Culture has never won a Championship Ciggy.

That we had internal distraction stuff that’s what held us back from excelling is crap…..The guys he let go made his SYSTEM look good. The culture will have no effect on whether they win or not…..However, the execution of the scheme by the TALENT will……Which I feel is lacking in a lot of areas…

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 18, 2015 4:00 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Well cliff there was an article on CSN philly i think by Geoff Mosher that says culture has been very successful- he pointed to the patriots who have taken in bad guys but the argument is bringing bad guys into a culture works well, he pointed to the seahawks who are big on culture– team first guys– marshawn lynch and sherman for example while can be a bit crazy (lynch) or loud (sherman) they are team first- he stated a couple other examples that I can’t remember–
I don’t understand why you don’t like team first guys- in football they always talk about a locker room of 53 buying into the system etc… with chip its been blown out of proportion.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
June 18, 2015 4:14 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

LMAO…If all those degrees and certificates you spewed on here are legit you know damn well what this coach means when he says “Culture”…
Like I said I get it ..it doesn’t fit your narrative….but please don’t play semantics with the word

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 18, 2015 4:23 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Oh ‘they made his system look good’— ??
cliff you are ridiculous… so you are saying that bradford, murray, matthews, Nelson (can’t spell last name yet) etc will not? that is funny…

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 18, 2015 5:17 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I don’t know Ciggy, they haven’t yet, but, what are you assuming they will?? My point was those same distractions had a part in the success – in spite of whatever culture that may have been threatened…

They might, but the culture has nothing to do with any success they may have.

@Gotta Luv It, or whoever your profiling yourself as now. I’m quite sure I’ve told you to kiss my ass before. But the word hate fits you, as I can see you’re just one of your many profiles that comes out and attacks anything I SAY FOR SPORT, AND ALWAYS SEEMS TO REMEMBER MY accomplishments, as do all the multiple profilers……To that I say Thank You…

and before you say your not – again, kiss my ass – don’t insult my intelligence; your not talking to an idiot – you should know that by now….

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 18, 2015 5:23 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Oh so now they ‘had some success’???? i thought he hadn’t been successful according to you… I can’t keep it straight…
so if they have more success with this group you still say it has nothing to do with culture.? talk about having it both ways…

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 18, 2015 5:55 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Yes Shady won the rushing title, DeSean Jackson had 1,300 yards, Jason Peters had a stellar season…yes they had success….

Don’t be petty Ciggy…

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 18, 2015 6:25 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

When you say ‘they’ I mean the eagles. The eagles had success as a team. THEY put up numbers and win some games … Those individuals had their best individual yeRs in this system. Not being petty just calling bull shit

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 18, 2015 4:23 pm
Reply to  Gotta Luv It

Really? Culture beats scheme? In what world and that doesn’t make a lick of sense.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 18, 2015 4:27 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

whats wrong with his scheme? i think its been pretty good hasnt it? You guys make it sound like he doesn’t know what hes’ doing?

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 18, 2015 10:51 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

First of all he said Culture beats talent every time boys on the sideline when they were beating some scrub ass team last year. Again culture beats scheme makes no damn sense. Coaching beats schemes, Exceptional talent can beat schemes, but culture is a fantasy and code words for the bigoted few who think a bunch of Joe Good Guys who never makes mistakes and here’s another code phrase, buys all in will miraculously win championships. SMDH and yes I went there.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 6:46 am
Reply to  haveacigar

I guess bigot is code for racist. Again, how is it racist to replace shady with Murray? To cut herrimans and Mathis? To resign an injured Ryan’s etc. ?

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 19, 2015 9:21 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Cigar, we can play semantics with words all day, bigoted is not necessarily racist. Herremans can’t play anymore. Mathis in the eyes of some is overrated does he have a job yet? Look at the percentage of the racial makeup of the team since the LLCB came aboard, sometimes numbers don’t mean a thing sometimes they do. But hey I guess the Church shooting wasn’t a hate crime either just the work of a troubled but nice young man right? That was a ramble but I’m pissed at this society where everything said and done has the cloud of race hovering above it. SMDH

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 9:41 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Lion go to youtube and see what Jon Stewart had to say about the shooting, it was one of the best thoughts on it I’ve seen.
Back to football, you even said LLCB would dress 53 Mexicans if they could help him win. Don’t be Fraudman and flip flop. The guy has a profile that he follows. Parcells used to cut guys looking for more money, Belichek will bring in an occassion al asshole but only because his culture is so strong that they can keep them in line.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 19, 2015 9:52 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Cigar, thanks that was great. And yes I said that about Kelly and I believe it, Greenfan captured perfectly below what Kelly is trying to implement, problem with that is people will jump on or off. board because in this current society everything has racial overtones.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 9:56 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Talking about “culture” and ranting on Kelly about who he is letting go…when its pretty much guaranteed that their are guys on this team that buy in and are certified assholes off the field and behind closed doors is laughable.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 19, 2015 10:11 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Izzell, that’s perfect and yep that is correct, my entire premise in all of this is I’m sick and tired of culture and buying in that shit has gotten old quickly. Just win some damn playoff games and get a championship in here.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 10:27 am
Reply to  haveacigar

We all want a Chip Big(no pun intended). However every team has culture and buying in. I look at what we have differently because I wasnt under the illusion that we had anything close to a championship level talent on this team. I was off the core group of most our players after the GB home playoff loss.

I just find it perplexing that with some of the talk on here its like we have a bumbling incompetent person running the show. The standards that I read would have had the Seahawks fire Carroll before getting Wilson, Giants bagging Coughlin, Ravens Harbaugh etc.

I just laugh at the culture remarks and Kelly bringing in or keeping choir boys lol. I am around guys out here from the Redskins…who you never hear about as bad dudes on TMZ or twitter etc….but are some of the BIGGEST DOUCHEBAGS ever……

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 17, 2015 1:19 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Here Here Cliff!

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 17, 2015 1:31 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

I mean it’s really not hard to see Lady TsJohnson……unless you blindly submit to Chips way of thinking – which many have done….

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
June 17, 2015 2:03 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff…Chip is the leader of the cult (ure) club. Ike Reese said he knows those players are scared to say anything that does not fall in line with Chip’s thinking…Chipbots. He will sell that snake oil as long as lemmings will buy it!

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 17, 2015 4:43 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Ts, Cliff and EHL, it’s no secret my disdain for this guy, I knew day 1 how this would play out. It’s plain for anyone with common sense to see how he operates. And paulman you are correct it’s very easy to operate this way when you have a windfall waiting on you back in college when you fail.

paulman
paulman
June 17, 2015 4:49 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I think Chip Kelly goes back to College only for the Notre Dame Job which may open up come 2017 if Brian Kelly gets fired ..

greenfan
greenfan
June 19, 2015 9:22 am
Reply to  gmcliff

When will you guys realize that there is a difference between what you guys are calling Culture for this team, and personal character and lastly “buying into the system”.

From what I can see from his days at Oregon, Chip does not shy away from guys who have run into trouble in the past. But if they continue to run into trouble, he also will not be afraid to give them a second chance, and lastly remove them from the team.

As far as what he is doing now, Kelly is looking for players that will 100% “buy into” what they are doing here…the sleep monitoring…the sports science…the up-tempo practices…the smoothies…all of it. It does not mean that you cannot express yourself, but as in Mathis’ case, you do not put yourself above the team.

I believe that Reid and Banner had a much more restrictive view of only drafting “guys with high character” as opposed to Kelly who is looking for players that will be willing to be part of a team that are all on board with the system and how they operate. I am sure that this was a topic of conversation with each free agent (look at the recent comments from Ryan Matthews about the approach here) and with the potential draft picks.

So I do not agree that Kelly looks to get rid of any “bad character” guys. He is looking for certain physical attributes at each position, and for a player that is willing to accept the program. If you can’t accept the program, no hard feelings, but Kelly will not have you on his team.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 19, 2015 9:40 am
Reply to  greenfan

Nothing wrong at all with that Grennie and on this point I 100% agree.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 10:13 am
Reply to  greenfan

Very well said!

paulman
paulman
June 17, 2015 2:31 pm

Which is why Chip Kelly will return back to the College Ranks where he can control and manipulate his Team and Programs and won’t have to deal with Grown Men, Agents, Media Requirements, etc,etc
Everyone and their Brother & Grandmother knew Chip Kelly has an enormous Ego, so this is no secret or news to anyone that follows the NFL or College Ball for that matter… Most HC are these days…
At the end of te day, Kelly will be judged on Wins and Losses like every other HC and he’s in Year #3 of a 5 Year Deal and Plan
Kelly needs to return back to the Playoffs and then build on that success in 2016 or he’s probably a 1 Term HC with the Eagles..

Stevo
Stevo
June 17, 2015 5:34 pm
Reply to  paulman

^^^^ Old, tired excuse for typing. Let the Chip goes back to college thing die for a day or two… PLEASE. Chip is staying.. and we are better off for it. Back in the day we had a soft D and bombs away Andy with the playcalls. Now…. we have a tough D (though not good yet) and a run game to open up the pass game. THIS is what we have needed for eons. Enough already.

Stevo
Stevo
June 17, 2015 5:39 pm

As far as the “loyalists” and the “haters” are concerned… the guy has 20 wins in 2 seasons with complete trash in the secondary. Give him a chance to show what he can do. I havent been crazy in love with every single move but…. give it time.

I find it so funny how some of you are…. complete loyalty to a player..sheesh, so predictable.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 17, 2015 9:57 pm
Reply to  Stevo

20 wins hasn’t gotten us a SuperBowl, hell 20 wins hasn’t really gotten us one playoff win.

So until he does Stevo, I will continue to criticize him as much as I see fit, not just be a blind loyalist, even though some may feel it’s hate, which by the way in definition – by the street term use of the word – means to admire jealously, and that’s not me; He has nothing to admire. He hasn’t really won anything yet.

You can also call it negative. I give less than a damn. Until we can beat a heavyweight in this league on a consistent basis, I will always question his approach, and refuse to just give him a pass.

paulman
paulman
June 17, 2015 10:44 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I agree 100% with GMCliff
Chip Kelly & Eagles need to Win meaningful Games against Good Teams and in the Playoffs.. Kelly is in Year 3 and its his Team, his Schemes and Coaching Staff fully in place now so there are no excuses…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
June 17, 2015 10:59 pm
Reply to  paulman

I agree! All the other fluff is being happy with mediocrity when you are feasting on mediocre teams!

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 17, 2015 11:42 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

LOL Sam The Gimp gonna lead this team to the promised land. Oh wait can’t get ahead of myself he hasn’t been cleared for 11 on 11 yet. Cliff I love your point and I’ll also say this. Being a fan doesn’t mean you cannot criticize what you don’t like. If Kelly makes it work good for us, not holding my breath but hey stranger things have happened.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 18, 2015 12:32 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

That’s the point Biggie. We can be critical, and still be fans of the Eagles. I don’t have to like what the Coach, GM, or the Owner does to be a fan.

I want what everyone else wants…a SuperBowl…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
June 18, 2015 12:45 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Exactly, Chip can’t cut us for not being all in.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 18, 2015 3:47 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

LOL!!!!! And that is exactly how and why we have platform to criticize Eagle…..

greenfan
greenfan
June 19, 2015 9:30 am
Reply to  Stevo

Stevo there are some frustrated guys on here.

I understand them because after 14 years of Reid, well really the last 5 years, I was frustrated too. We saw a coach who had lost focus and the ability to identify the adjustments his team needed, so I was frustrated.

Some of these cats have been hating on Kelly since the jump. Pretty funny, but it is what it is. In the end the only one who will succeed or lose his job is Kelly, and he knows it. He will win or go out doing things his way, with his players. The way that it should be. This site seems to attract guys who want to piss on everything…I will withhold the psychiatric analysis for the experts, but have no doubt that it stems from unhappiness elsewhere.

mhenski
mhenski
June 18, 2015 8:54 am

Gotta admit not having kookbreeze and songs around has been very nice

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
June 18, 2015 6:52 pm

its cool Cliff…but im just GLI…
like i said as an man whom has as much knowledge as you do…im sure you know what he means when he says “culture”….
ill go back to reading you guys argue about whos right/wrong
and im being respectful so pls do the same

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 7:59 am
Reply to  Gotta Luv It

When he starts on the multiple profile theory just let him be. He’s pathetic.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 19, 2015 11:31 am
Reply to  Gotta Luv It

Bullshit E0S…..didn’t YOU GET MY HINT BEFORE??

I told you we’ve talked before – you obviously forgot – you, and all your multiple profiles, including Izzell Jenkins….can kiss my ass…

Help the situation by not responding to me at all, so the post can be about sports.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 12:41 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

You responding shows your paranoia.

Stfu before I air your lying ass out again.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 12:44 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Btw how’s Tyler Dorsey’s mom who you said died but is still alive doing? Lmao and his real dad?

Go ahead now do your deflecting.

Sensitive old bitch lmao

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 19, 2015 1:41 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

His mother has passed away.,,,,,,,You have no idea that Jarrod his step Father re-married some time ago, but myself having insight, being kept in the loop does…………..Stop commenting on things you know nothing about…..

and like I said keep your comments isolated to GCobbs sports topics. That’s nothing close to paranoia – I told you before E0S, you aren’t shit to me but a jealous heckler – That’s called keeping peace….

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 1:42 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Stop your fucking lying already old man its pathetic. Exposed again as a fraud that you are.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 1:46 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

And its Jerrid you lying dumbass…I spoke to him directly on twitter more than once.

They know all about the lunatic that was willing to say a kids mom died and his stepfather kept custody and moved to California.

Except you fucked up. You said she died when he was 4…….

Except Samia and JERRID were married in 96……the same year Tyler was born.

Damn your a lying ass bastard….now go run along and have conversations with those who entertain your foolishness.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 19, 2015 1:54 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I enjoyed myself with the time I spent with my sons at their graduations, and parties.

You say I’m lying..OKAY…..Move on and just continue to think that, because you’re the only one that seems to have a problem with it.

You have the nerve to call me pathetic. What’s pathetic is you continuing with the same old non-sense – “your lying Cliff”, “I have inside info Cliff”, “I talked to Jaylen on Twitter” – and you’re lying, and have no insight no matter how hard you push the issue…..

Give up asshole, and take the L. I know who my children are. Who gives a crap what you think??? ….That’s your problem, so you think what you want. I’m secure from where I stand.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 1:58 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Lmao sure you did! I bet you took flowers to a fake grave site for the dead baby momma thats still alive too.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 19, 2015 2:02 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

No she’s buried in New York……but your welcome to entertain yourself with your meaningless misinformation…enjoy yourself

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 2:04 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

No she lives in Pasadena and posted his baby pictures on his birthday lmao

Learn how to use the fucking internet dumbass.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 19, 2015 3:56 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

what’s posting his Baby pictures mean?? I have his baby pictures……

I don’t have to use the internet to prove he is my son.

His step mother didn’t carry him. You, once again don’t have your facts straight..

I only brought up Jaylen, because YOU claimed you spoke to him on Twitter – which was a lie – That’s you being desperate for attention to the situation. As is your lie of speaking to Jarrod – by the way I don’t have to spell his name correctly, it not my name, and I don’t need the internet to tell me what I already know.

But you are lying, and your research has brought you inaccurate information. So again, your welcomed to keep digging for the rest of your life, and I will continue my relationships with my sons.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 19, 2015 2:00 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

And I love the deflection on bringing up Jaylen when we were talking about Tyler because you got caught like a dumbass….

LMAO give it up bruh.

His mom died when he was 4…..shes still alive married and posting on twitter and instagram…

Go have another sympathy “heart attack”

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 19, 2015 9:23 am

Again sorry for the ranting fellas just pissed.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
June 19, 2015 11:44 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Big, No reason to apologize, no reason at all!!! It’s understood!!!

paulman
paulman
June 19, 2015 12:22 pm

On a side , Our Thoughts & Prayers go out to the Victims and Families and the Charleston,SC Community for the senseless, tragic shooting and killing of those 9 People in Church the other night… This World has gone Mad where a Place of Worship is not even safe from Violence anymore …
To all the GCobb Fathers out there, Happy Fathers Day…

zilents44
zilents44
June 19, 2015 2:45 pm

Hate crime another black death goddamit

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 3:04 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I think anytime a person is killed its a hate crime…. regardless of color of victim or killer. In this case tho it certainly fits the ‘legal’ definition of hate crime. The unfortunate thing is the racial divide in america could be pretty much cured in a generation- both sides of the issue need to acknowledge the grievances of the other side- there are too many absolutes — neither side is willing to give an inch to come up with the common good–
I live outside of wilmington and there are dozens of shootings every year- its just a common occurance, doesn’t make the national news- those deaths are just as tragic….

zilents44
zilents44
June 19, 2015 3:24 pm

I just dont understand people killing innocent people thats hate no matter what race its just pure evil aint nobody but the devil

greenfan
greenfan
June 19, 2015 3:34 pm
Reply to  zilents44

To kill people praying in a church, the ultimate in evil.

You can not lift enough prayers for those families. Terrible and sad.

mhenski
mhenski
June 19, 2015 3:39 pm
Reply to  greenfan

sandy hook was the worst shooting/ultimate evil i ever saw

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 3:42 pm
Reply to  mhenski

henski- yes damn… when they strike churches and schools– total innocents

when you see one asshole kill another in a turf war or drug transaction go bad…well thats a choice– but churchs and schools…

greenfan
greenfan
June 19, 2015 4:52 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

The one common thread here is that we have mentally deranged individuals with access to firearms attacking groups of innocent people…be it an elementary school, a church or a movie theater. ..the mental health situation has been steadily getting worse since it has been harder and harder to get them the help they need. More attention is needed to help put a stop to the tragedies.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 3:40 pm
Reply to  greenfan

If the murderer was a muslim and had studied in a muslim country we’d be sending troops. This country needs to stop hiding behind political correctness and address the fucking problems. Have honest discussions with solutions proposed but thats too much to ask….
those families are gutted forever….man this shooting for some reason (and i’m not a church goer nor religious) really sunk in to me. we need solutions…

mhenski
mhenski
June 19, 2015 3:48 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

solution is no guns period, but damn that would be hard

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 19, 2015 4:01 pm
Reply to  mhenski

The solution is God’s Kingdom; A Government ruled by Christ Jesus, and not by Satan, and his demons…

mhenski
mhenski
June 19, 2015 4:04 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

lmfao at cliff

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 19, 2015 4:15 pm
Reply to  mhenski

They laughed at Noah when he preached something different than they wanted to hear or believe at that time too Big Mhenski, but it was still the truth…

mhenski
mhenski
June 19, 2015 4:50 pm
Reply to  mhenski

cliff dont be a fuckin jackass. take that shit somewhere else

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 19, 2015 5:32 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Cmon Henski we don’t make fun of anyone’s religious beliefs.

mhenski
mhenski
June 19, 2015 5:59 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Where did I lion ? It’s a dick move people putting their beliefs in others faces. Whether it’s the assholes on the corner badgering peeps or the door to door people giving out literature of the guy on gCobb preaching. It’s just a ass move to do that, I’m sure there are people here that aren’t Christian that don’t need to read that shit.

Again I didn’t make fun of his religion but really it wouldn’t be much worse than him preaching here. U think a Muslim wants to read that shit?

Dick move imo

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 19, 2015 10:54 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Big Mhenski, I’m not offended at all by your feelings, but I get it. God’s Word is for everyone, but Everyone is not for God’s Word…

Whether someone of another religion wants to hear the message, or not would be their choice. Freedom of religion, and speech are recognized in this country as law. Jehovah’s Witnesses have won ALL of those legal cases ALL over the world.

But your feeling are not shared by those whose hearts are open to hear, and are reasonable. Over 2 million are baptized each year, all over the world because they are tired of this world the way it is , and put faith in God’s Word – NOT MAN MADE OPINIONS – and look forward to the changes that God has instore for even you, if you really wanted it….

I respect how you feel, but I won’t neglect the people who want the life God really intended us to have…..Peace Bruh…

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 6:46 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Gm cliff please let us know the fate of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and athiests under such a government

greenfan
greenfan
June 19, 2015 8:54 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Not to answer for Cliff, and regrettably to continue a non-football discussion, but I believe that they would fare better than Christians are these days under Shiria Law. I have not heard of a Christian beheading a Muslim for hundreds if not thousands of years.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 10:15 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

christians over the years have not proven to be very forgiving and compassionate. They have bombed abortion clinics, used the bible to endorse slavery … i don’t see it!

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 19, 2015 10:43 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Just logged on Ciggy.

Neither Atheist, nor any of those religious denominations will exist during that time.

Matthew 7:21 – “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’

Any that do not submit to God’s way of doing things at that time will choose for himself his own fate; Life or death……just like those in Noah’s Day…

Matthew 24:36 – “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. – That would be the last days, the time we live in right now

greenfan
greenfan
June 19, 2015 10:53 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I see hac. It has become veru fashionable to bash Christians these days. Abortion clinics, really? In a single day this year Muslims have killed more Christians in Northern Africa than all abortion clinic bombings combined. You can try and rationalize your hatred for Christians or organized religion in general, and you have a supportive media and popular culture , but your analogy is not historically accurate.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 11:07 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

So cliff– when a jesus government takes over those people won’t exist???? so where do they go? i guess they are violently killed? damn— ok sounds good!
green fan– i’m not saying christians are the MOST violent… not at all but given cliffs analysis that jews and atheists will be gone when a jesus govt is installed… yikes!
I believe cliffs post is a terrorist threat– it is radical and violent. fuck him!

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 11:42 am
Reply to  haveacigar

No Ciggy, before that Kingdom, or Government is actively present on Earth. The Bible speaks of something called Armageddon – That is God great Day of anger – when all those who haven’t been serving the true God, and doing his will be destroyed like those who didn’t listen to Noah.

Many don’t realize that even though they go to church, or claim they have a relationship with God that indirectly, they may not be serving the true God – but the God of this system Satan the Devil. Jesus spoke about False Religion in my post above how many would claim they were doing things in his name but he rejected them, for they had been deceived by Satan, and as a result unfortunately will be destroyed.

After that, that Kingdom, or Government will rule for 1000 years, under one faith serving one God.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 11:55 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Psalms 37:9-11 – 9  –

9 – For evil men will be done away with,
But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth.

10 Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more;
You will look at where they were,
And they will not be there.

11 But the meek will possess the earth,
And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

28 – For Jehovah loves justice,
And he will not abandon his loyal ones.

They will always be guarded;
But the descendants of the wicked will be done away with.

29 The righteous will possess the earth,
And they will live forever on it.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 20, 2015 3:00 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

So cliff non Christians either join or suffer a violent death? Sounds great

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 3:45 pm

back to football– god damn mathis is in the media begging for a job… read pft- hilarious the guy turned down what like $13 million or something like that- he is begging! stupid SOB!

Stevo
Stevo
June 19, 2015 4:24 pm

This room needs meds. Yikes. Im Stevo and only Stevo…. have been here for years.

35 years and counting and I am frustrated about no ring too… I’m just not stupid enough to think a new coach coming in with crap in the secondary (and elsewhere) is going to magically give us a ring in 1 or 2 years. The question is…. are we moving in the right direction? I would say yes…. why would I say that?

*Better players in the secondary.
*Speed AND SIZE in the front 7.
*Better QB play this year? Dont believe me just watch!!
*Better RB for this system.

While I have not loved everything Chip has done…. I have been calling for this style of D for a LONG time and I know enough about football to know THIS is how you build a D. and…… once our D gets right…. there is NO reason we wont go deep.

Does this mean I am happy with 10 win seasons without a ring? Nope.
Does this mean Im less hungry than Cliff? Nope.

Hate on.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 19, 2015 11:08 pm

cliff by his own admission has children by different women, many who don’t share his sir name… yet he talks of religious intolerance…

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 11:48 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Yes Ciggy, I have a past, where I was young, and made those moral mistakes, but I have taken care of all my children one way or another, have great relationship with all of them, and I am happily married now.

The Bible admittedly speaks of the experiences of people like David, Moses, Manasseh, and the Apostle Paul, who all at some point of time offended, or disappointed God – but repented, and continued to make strides to maintain their relationship with God. No one is looked down upon, because all of us make mistakes.

mhenski
mhenski
June 20, 2015 1:53 pm

Cliff stop being an asshole dude nobody wants to reAd this

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 5:27 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Big Mhenski, How is it you think I’m being an asshole?
If you don’t want to read it don’t read it.

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 2:10 pm

Lol

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
June 20, 2015 2:35 pm

this website has officially jumped the shark

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 20, 2015 3:04 pm

Cliff I always thought ur unending and unreasonable sports rants were funny because they were so stupid…. But I get it , claiming god will rid the earth of non believers as we discuss violence in America … Wow

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 5:34 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Ciggy, if that’s the case then you my friend are in denial, because my sports rants as you say are flat out reasonable – some may not agree but they are nothing but reasonable – and many would disagree with you, and should because you are being unreasonable, and in denial if you really believe that.

I’m not claiming god will destroy all those not really knowing, or obeying him, his word THE BIBLE says so.

I mentioned the Kingdom, because no matter who you vote to office, no matter how many marches people march, no matter how much people complain – nothing will change – in fact the Bible predicts it will get worse – until Christ is in Earthly Kingdom Power, because Satan rules this world, and the False religions of this world – that’s why you see so much violence….

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 20, 2015 5:46 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff you took a tragic event and we were talking about ridding the country of violence and perverted it to advocate more violence in the name of Christianity. Please elaborate as to what the ‘false religions’ are … I want to make sure exactly who is safe from this mass murder.

mhenski
mhenski
June 20, 2015 6:16 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Cliff pleaSe just stop with the bible stuff. Please stop it on gCobb and never again. Have some respect and class

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 20, 2015 6:20 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Sorry Henski, I’m done egging him on… The man is a certified kook.

mhenski
mhenski
June 20, 2015 6:51 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

All good hac do whatever u want I just have a hard time keeping my mouth shut and when people start popping off about religion and putting their beliefs in others faces I think it’s classless and insensitive and pretty inconsiderate of others beliefs I find it way more offensive than most things.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 7:29 pm
Reply to  mhenski

BTW, it also isn’t classless because that’s how you feel. I was asked a question, and I answered it. I don’t throw my beliefs into anyones face, but I do conversate, and reason from the scriptures

If you ask me, What’s classless, is how you are reacting to something you obviously have no appreciation for – but that’s you. I’m sure others may feel the same way, but they displayed some class by keeping any ignorant comments to themselves.

mhenski
mhenski
June 21, 2015 9:36 pm
Reply to  mhenski

U weren’t asked a question jackass liar. U just out the blue started spitting religion bullshit. Lying ass fugazi fuck off

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 7:18 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Big Mhenski, I have no problem ending the conversation, but no one on this site will ever direct me do anything other than what I choose to do. I’m sure you’ll understand that…

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 7:34 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

That isn’t mass murder – that is God’s Judgement.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 20, 2015 8:41 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

So Christians killing no Christians isn’t murder? WTF you weirdo

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 7:00 pm

Lord said dont be so religious that you are no earthly good……that will shut him up…..look I live by the word but I will never throw it in peoples face and act in confusion because god does not in confusion…..thats all I have to say in this matter

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 7:21 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Actually Z, it won’t, because what you deem overly religious – isn’t. I call ir caring about people in general.

It’s not overly religious to share God’s Word – Jesus did it all the time. Or do have a problem with him???…..Perhaps, that shuts you up?

mhenski
mhenski
June 20, 2015 7:58 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

cliff ive been praying to Jesus for you to stop and Jesus told me to ask nicely and I did but you won’t stop. At this point ur disobeying Jesus.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 8:15 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Big Mhenski, I don’t pray to Jesus, because Jesus isn’t God – People who lack accurate knowledge, and associate with False Relgion do that….

I know you were trying to be sarcastic, but I’ve been praying for all of you since this conversation started. I think inside you’re a decent guy Mhenski – for me that’s obvious, but if you think about it does ignorance add anything to the mix??

paulman
paulman
June 20, 2015 8:49 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Isn’t “Jesus” referred to as the Son of Man and the Son of God in the New Testament… Aren’t there many references as Jesus being sent by God ???

All I know is that in the History of Mankind, there has been more Death and Destruction in the name “God” of Organized Religions than any other reason…
I imagine that it will always be this way…

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 20, 2015 8:53 pm
Reply to  paulman

Cliff is advocating more death in gods name… Cliff is evil

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 7:36 pm

Look you can share his word all you want but if you are confusing people and dropping bible verses on people all you will get is people who are not in the word more likely to not become christians……I know the lord is not telling you to say this stuff or else people wouldnt be asking you to please stop……right time and right place…..but hey go ahead and drop more bible verses….people have to want it in their heart until then you just look like a crazy christian

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 7:38 pm

The way you talk to people on here aint very godly like you know every damn thing…..people would call you ” self righteous” lol mr never wrong

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 8:21 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I can’t ever say I’m not wrong, but I can say God isn’t….

self righteous people state their own personal feelings based on their personal beliefs – not the Bible – Self Righteous individuals prefer the traditions, and thinking of men – as opposed to listening to God…just a little FYI.

So if you’re going to call someone a name Z make sure you use the word in the right context…

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 8:02 pm

Lol u stupid henski trying to use his own shit against him

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 8:20 pm

Self righteous strikes again mr fucking know it all……look im,a christian to but you need the most prayer…..fix yourself before you help others because you aint a good image at all

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 8:24 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I never judged you, or anyone on here. I just stated what was written in God’s Word. Again, that is no Self Righteous.

Christians are also Christ like in their thinking…I don’t hear that from you based on your comments Z….

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 8:32 pm

Thats the one truthful thing you have ever said that god aint wrong everything else you spew is dumb shit to put yourself above all mr high flying christian……I cant stand when christians like you act like they know everything because they been washed by the blood…..I sin everyday but own up to mine you lie your way out of everything….that stroke you had was a sign to get your shit together but I guess you didnt take heed

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 11:01 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Okay, if you say so…..Love the language though…

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 11:10 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Anyone ever notice that only Izzell, E0S, and Zilents bring up my stroke, and heart attack when trying to insult me?????…..Not a coincidence fellas….

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 8:35 pm

Im not the one dropping bible verses on people….The lord uses me in diffrent ways Im not a verse dropper like you

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 8:37 pm

Mother fucker when you start calling me izell you judged me right there because I didnt believe your bull shit

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 11:02 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Wow, this type of response, and language, and you criticize me???

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 11:11 pm
Reply to  zilents44

He uses YOU using that language huh????

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 20, 2015 8:45 pm

Cliff please tell me which groups suffer god wrath…. Jews, I’m sure, atheists , they get fried, Muslims sure, Catholics? Shit I’m fucked

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 10:51 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Ciggy, all of those NOT doing his will, and putting their faith in Satan’s Governmental System, by figuratively fornicating with someone other than her husbandly owner – She is figuratively described as a prostitute.

Revelation 18:1-3 – After this I saw another angel descending from heaven with great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a place where every unclean spirit and every unclean and hated bird lurks! 3 For because of the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality, all the nations have fallen victim, and the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth became rich owing to the power of her shameless luxury.”

Babylon in Ancient times was known as the city of False Religion; The Babylon the Great symbolizes the World Empire of False Religion – all of which fornicate with the Kings of the Earth; The Governments of Satan’s System Worldwide.

……..voting, and encouraging others to vote all the while, building her profits of Shameless luxury, misleading it’s members worldwide, and paying no taxes – riding the back of the Wild Beast, or being supported by the Kings of the Earth Financially….

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 10:53 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I only responded Ciggy because you asked bruh…

Romans 10:1-3 – Brothers, the goodwill of my heart and my supplication to God for them are indeed for their salvation. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge. 3 For because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 8:51 pm

Hac dont ask him shit he is lying bitch if you are serious hac you have to find out for yourself or else you wont get the full understanding of everything

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 20, 2015 9:37 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I’m not serious… I don’t subscribe to fairy tales… I believe in god, not the bible or organized religion… I dont believe god is as mean as organized religion professes…

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 10:36 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Ciggy, I’m sorry you feel that way bruh, but I certainly respect it.

But I still look forward to our conversations on our sports teams.

@ Zilents, aka Izzell Jenkins, aka Concrete Marley, aka Gotta Lov it, aka E0S – LOL!!, smh , what else is new?..

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
June 21, 2015 5:55 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

lol…I’m only posting cause I see that I was mentioned.
I am not a multiple profile…This shit ain’t that deep to me.
So to my other 48 gcobb comrades, know that GLI is not
any of those other profiles. Just Gotta Luv It !

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 6:58 pm
Reply to  Gotta Luv It

Yeah right….we’ve already crossed that bridge. Save it E0S….

zilents44
zilents44
June 20, 2015 9:44 pm

Lol as mean you sound like a kid but yeah I understand why you feel that way

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 20, 2015 9:56 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Hey, our secondary is improved, our ground game is better…we need sam to not break!

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 20, 2015 10:00 pm

Amazing, I’m just smdh at this thread, speechless at the lack of respect shown towards anyone who disagrees with anyone’s point of view or opinions. I go back and forth with folks but always respect their point of view. This shit was embarrassing.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 20, 2015 10:57 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Biggy, I really didn’t mean for this to go that far. I was trying to add something positive, and it got outta hand. I hope I didn’t offend the rest of you, I expect that from E0S, but much love to Big Mhenski…..

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 21, 2015 12:00 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Didn’t affend me at all Cliff, but obviously you ruffled feathers. The responses were just incredulous to me but hey to each his own. Stay strong in faith my friend.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 7:08 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Thank you Brother!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 21, 2015 1:47 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Lion, you aren’t offended by cliffs calling for mass violence against people who disagree with his religious views? Seems odd that we call for peace and that man calls for genocide

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 21, 2015 2:27 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

You misunderstand Cigar, Cliff isn’t calling for anything. And besides you don’t believe in fairy tales right?

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 21, 2015 2:46 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Hmmm Armagedon is a pleasant experience…the radical right of any religion is a dangerous thing… Believing literally in fairy tales makes people fly planes into buildings, have inquisitions etc….

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 21, 2015 9:14 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Oh well like I said, those weren’t Cliff’s words. He’s a believer as am I so I’m in the same boat I guess.

paulman
paulman
June 20, 2015 10:10 pm

Not to change gears here ..
Was Checking out the Flyers Pick Selections in upcoming Draft and they have
7 Picks out of the first #98 Selections in the first 3 Rounds…
This could be a real building block for the Future if they can Draft & Develop well…
Maybe Josh Janet can write an upcoming Article on who some good potential Targets of the Flyers will be…

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 1:30 am

cliff you are pos for real Im zilents44 only Big you know cliff be lying about kinds of shit I have been wrong in past and I own up to it this dude always thinks he is right. he was talking that multiple profile shit when he know he got caught up in it……draft kings 100000 to lying about who his kids are……the list goes on…..fuck you cliff…..pussy ass bitch

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 7:07 am
Reply to  zilents44

Z, I just love that Christian personality of yours.

Jealousy, is one of the works of the flesh – It doesn’t look good on you, but you keep rolling with that off put thinking. ….

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 21, 2015 2:29 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Z, I don’t know Cliff’s past and I refuse to pass judgement on whom and what I don’t know, it’s not my place.

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 8:24 am

lol dont tempt your fellow man, cliff your fake, simple as that. My flesh wants to kick the crap out of you but I will pray instead, happy fathers day brother

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 12:40 pm
Reply to  zilents44

That’s a personal problem, that you’d fail in fulfilling…

But, when you say “My flesh wants to kick the crap out of you”, that’s not love.

1 John 4:20 – If anyone says, “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For the one who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. 21 And we have this commandment from him, that whoever loves God must also love his brother

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 1:59 pm

thats why I said pray instead……lol you dont follow that well do you……we sin because of flesh…..dont get it wrong I do love you as a child of god but that doesnt mean I can prevent at all times not to want to lay my hands on you…..I mean with all those kids out there you have Im sure you let your flesh say some things not in love. Dont play perfect

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 4:06 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I admitted that to Ciggy in the post above, as young people we have all lived in ignorance. Your focus is to throw stones at me, I’m only trying to educate you on what you obviously ignore in principle – and are still side stepping accountability ,but you want to make light of it because you say your praying for me…..That’s laughable…..

Maybe you should pray for yourself first. I always pray for myself recognizing I’m an imperfect sinner – but I also have been educated in accurate knowledge, and not taking scriptures out of context to warrant my point of view – AND speaking to my fellow man with such a filthy mouth –

Colossians 3:8 – But now you must put them all away from you: wrath, anger, badness, abusive speech, and obscene talk out of your mouth.

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 21, 2015 4:21 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I like the part about ‘fornicating with someone other than your husband OWNER’ … Too funny, oppressive stuff here from cliff. I still haven’t figured out if my kind of catholic ass gets killed when G takes over… I’m scared

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 6:52 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

It’s quite simple Ciggy. Jesus when he died offered his body as a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins, thus we as Humans were brought with a price – Jesus’s life.

Figuratively, a bride price was paid, so all should be indebted, and submissive to his headship. Unfortunately many indirectly continue to follow Satan, by living in a way contrary to what is faithful to him – Her Husbandly owner.

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 4:21 pm

didnt you threaten to kill eos like 6 months ago…….you sure can talk out of your ass…..all of sudden you can educate me because I said some naughty words…..get off your high horse lil bitch

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 21, 2015 4:31 pm
Reply to  zilents44

He did threaten death… It’s justified because cliff is a man of god… Be very wary of men who profess to understanding gods message no matter which god of whom they speak

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 6:45 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Yes, I did…I gave him a choice when he felt like you did, and wanted to threaten me with bodily harm – You remember what I said, because I was talking to you – and if he/you ever came to my house or attempted to threaten me – he/you would regret it.

Goliath threatened David, and what happened to him????

Any man, in that situation would do the same thing – Christian, or Non Christian. So, I lovingly let you make that decision. Just because I have love for man, doesn’t mean I’m not to defend myself, someone who want to act like he’s tougher than he really is…

Please don’t even try to pass the Buck, when you read Colossians as a Christian did your conscience say – Look, I’m wrong as the day is long?, or are you still going to act like I didn’t make a strong point about your foul language. You don’t have a leg to stand on….

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 4:27 pm

were you young when you wanted to kill eos…..fuck out of here that bull shit

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 4:29 pm

did you read collosions 3 8 when you wanted to murder eos

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 4:35 pm

look hac he is using god word in small windows to fit his own criteria…..you gotta view it all…..depend on god not man

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 21, 2015 5:04 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Kind of my point…zealots use the book how they see fit, how it supports their narrative. Take certain parts literally and gloss over others. All I know is the dude thinks a religious/biblical coupes that is ‘biblical’ in violence is coming to a majority of the humans on earth… That shit is kooky!

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 6:53 pm
Reply to  zilents44

No, I use it in a reasonable manner..

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 21, 2015 7:36 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Shit man I’m gonna get fried during armegedden … Me and all the Catholics, atheists, Muslims, etc… Shit you good Christians will have the earth all to yourselves… You will have a shitload of bodies to bury

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 7:08 pm

whatever lil bitch tired of bull shit….you fake as shit…..Eos was joking with you and you took it to murder……and yes I can pass the buck all the fuck I want to who are you that when you say some satanic evil shit like you said to eos that I cant bring it up…..fuck you bitch……and I love how all of suddden u some deep ass christian…….dcar says some really foul shit on here and you dont talk that godly shit to him, dcar this is no shot at you, point being if you gonna be all no potty mouth around me make sure you dont do it to just people who dont,agree with you

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 8:33 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Z, I don’t judge you or DCar, but like it or not we all have to be cognizant of what we need to improve on………There is nothing wrong with that.

Honestly, your the one that has turned this conversation into more than what it should have been, so don’t get upset with me, when I point it out to you.

I have never once in these post claimed that I’m better than anyone as a person on here – You said that – and you keep saying that..

Also, How would you know if E0S was playing if you’re not him??

Like DCat says, if you pay attention to the wording in the post, you’ll see the similarities in the many profiles some try to perpetrate….

DCar
DCar
June 22, 2015 12:03 am
Reply to  zilents44

z, the only time I say foul stuff on here, is to the same 3 POS, that in the past stirred all of this up, by ripping me, calling me names, questioned my manhood, all because I call it like it is, & have a perfectly functioning brain. Jon lil Bron-Bron, havenoclue, & Izzell/ EOS, are all frauds, dirt bag hypocrites, who think because a person with the balls & brains to call it like it is, & don’t bow down to the alters of their hero front offices, like they do, gives them the right to question my fan-hood, man-hood, & call me names. But, when I call them on the carpet, for when I’m called names, I tell them to prove it to me, instead of being a keyboard gangster, they cower & call me a thug, turning it on me! I DON’T just come on here for no reason, & rip these idiots, looking for trouble. I don’t forget anything these scumbags have said. My mind is like a steel trap, & a sponge. I don’t forget anything! As for gmcliff, I don’t discuss religion, & politics, but he does make some good points. Some of these scumbags, have been torturing this man for months, so for him to lose his temper, & threaten some of these jokers, doesn’t surprise me! gmcliff, paulman, biglion & myself are the whipping boys on here, because we have brains, & don’t stand for the status quo, PR spewing BS, & the taking advantage of the fans. People like them, like to get their jollies off of talking shit about people, they don’t know. I couldn’t care any less about gmcliff personal life. All of this started, because gmc, makes some good points on personnel decisions, & gets ripped unwarranted, like me, from the alter bowing, lemming, boot lickers! I will never bow to any man! I will never accept, nor respect any inept, front offices! I will never accept nepotism, egotism, false hubris, & condescending hypocritical snobs talking down to me, when I have the smarts, common sense, & acumen in many areas, that are equal, & or better, than most of the morons in the front offices, in this city! Am I perfect? Not by a long shot! Am I right all of the time? No, but I’m right most of the time! Do I know what I’m talking about? Absolutely! Do I spew too many obscenities on here? Yes! I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong, & have the manhood to eat crow if necessary, but some of these cats on here are fraud human beings, & fraud men! Plain & simple!

DCar
DCar
June 22, 2015 12:13 am
Reply to  zilents44

BTW, I don’t give a fuck, if gmcliff has a harem of women, with a baseball team full of children. If he is telling the truth about his kids, cool! If not, he has to look at himself in the mirror, answer to himself, 7 get help. But for these hypocrite assholes, to come on here for months, & months, disparaging, him, embarrassing him, making him out to be some kind of lunatic, makes them worse! I wish I had time like these losers, to go back, research & cherry pick past comments, to try & fail to embarrass people! Must be nice to be losers? The big man upstairs don’t like ugly, & karma is a bitch! You reap, what you sow!

paulman
paulman
June 21, 2015 8:38 pm

Note to Self : Do not enroll my Kids in Cliffs Summer Bible Study School

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 8:40 pm

the fuck outta here mf you see my pic everybody can tell when someone joking no one writes like me…..u know im,z44 only its just too late for your ass to admit you were wrong….that wouldnt be the cliff move to do……fuck you cliff

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 21, 2015 9:51 pm
Reply to  zilents44

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 8:42 pm

omg pman i almost shit myself with that one…..thanks for the laugh man

paulman
paulman
June 21, 2015 9:17 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I figure this thread needed a little humor…
You can’t Win chatting about Religion, Politics & Sex…
I just stay away anymore
As a gift to Alton this Fathers Day,
I promise not to be an “ass” or “know it all” any longer for its not worth it
And immature of me to be so.. I will attempt to keep on Topic of the thread and the subject of the article… The personal, name calling and who’s right or I told you so days are over for me… Enjoy the Summer and about 7 Weeks to what should be a very interesting Summer Camp & Pre-Season this Year for the Eagles and us fans …

DCar
DCar
June 22, 2015 12:17 am
Reply to  paulman

paul, I call BS on you! You can’t help yourself to go off on your tangents. LOL! Makes it funny on here, it’s a shame some of assclowns on here, have no sense of humor, & can’t wash the sand out of their manginas!

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 10:06 pm

thank you mhenski this mofo lies so damn much he cant keep with them

zilents44
zilents44
June 21, 2015 10:13 pm

pman dude you are alright with me

zilents44
zilents44
June 22, 2015 12:14 am

lol dude dcar I really was just saying when you get into people on here you be saying some mean shit but I just dont want another man pointing out when I say foul language as if they dont do any wrong….but damn I fail a sleep reading your long ass post but I did read it all…..lol

DCar
DCar
June 22, 2015 12:21 am
Reply to  zilents44

Sorry, for the War & Peace! Too much coffee! Watching my grandson, he has colick, & my old lady is working the night shift at CHOP. 🙁
Just needed to get my point across.

zilents44
zilents44
June 22, 2015 12:18 am

Dcar that is true I was wrong for laying into him myself but as soon as he started calling fucking eos and izell that shit ate me up…..I dont know why but I just cant stand it

DCar
DCar
June 22, 2015 12:23 am
Reply to  zilents44

z, you ain’t them, but Izzell has some eerily similarities to EOS, so I see where gmcliff suspects it! We have many jokers on here, with multiple screen names, & aliases.