Following a crazy 48-hours, some of the dust has settled and its now time to take a look at where the Eagles stand following the initial wave of free agency.
Chase Daniel’s Contract Is Ridiculous/Speaks To Lack Of Certainty In Sam Bradford
There’s a lot to like about what the Eagles have done through free agency, but the one major head-scratcher here is the contract that the team gave to free agent quarterback Chase Daniel.
Daniel coming to Philadelphia was no surprise. From the minute Doug Pederson was hired, Daniel was immediately linked to the Eagles.
Even after the Birds re-signed Sam Bradford, I still expected them to make a push to bring Daniel in. The idea of him coming here just made too much sense. A veteran quarterback that Pederson trusts to come in and teach his system, and potentially serve as a stopgap starter.
But the other reason it made sense was that the team’s incumbent veteran backup, Mark Sanchez, was making too much money. With a cap number of almost $5 million, Sanchez was a prime candidate to be a cap casualty, and free up a little more room for the team to address other areas.
And yet, Daniel was signed to an even larger deal than Sanchez, agreeing to a three-year deal worth at least $21 million and potentially $36 million through incentives.
The contract the Eagles signed him to just doesn’t make a lot of sense. They way overpaid for this guy. The Birds were the only team with such a high level of interest in Daniel, and I think they could have gotten him for a much lesser price. No one was going to give him that kind of money. Daniel could have been probably been had for 12-16 million over those three years and even that would have been more than a fair price for a guy with all of 77 NFL passing attempts to his name.
There has been some speculation that Daniel’s deal could pave the way for the Eagles to trade Sam Bradford, but while I would completely be onboard with that scenario, I don’t think its at all likely.
For better or worse, the Eagles are going to roll the dice on Sam Bradford and his yet-to-be-realized potential for at least one more year. But they clearly aren’t at all sold that he’s the long-term answer, and there’s a lot of evidence to support this.
First there’s the fact that the Eagles only signed him to a short-term deal. Plain and simple, Bradford hasn’t accomplished anything in this league and has only shown some occasional flashes, when he’s managed to stay healthy. He still has his pedigree of being the top pick in the 2010 draft to fall back on, and while the team clearly respects that, they wanted to go above and beyond to make sure they had a viable Plan B in place.
At the very least, Daniel’s presence all but assures that Mark Sanchez’s time in Philadelphia will mercifully come to an end.
Brandon Brooks Injects Youth, Talent, and Stability Into Offensive Line
The general consensus was that the Eagles were expected to address the offensive line in free agency, and while a lot of speculation pointed to Jeff Allen of Kansas City or Jahri Evans of the Saints, the team got one of the other top prizes available, landing Texans guard Brandon Brooks.
Brooks is an instant upgrade over the wretched options that Chip Kelly elected to roll out there a season ago, and should provide some much-needed stability for a line that desperately needed some fresh blood.
With McLeod, McKelvin, and Bradham, Eagles Are Shaping Defense In Schwartz’s Image
I love the moves that the Eagles have made to upgrade the defense, and I’m very excited to see how this unit comes together.
Through the hiring of Schwartz, and the additions of physical guys like McLeod and Bradham, the Eagles are taking steps to getting back to being one of the league’s nastier, physical defenses.
And that couldn’t be more refreshing.
Ever since Jim Johnson passed away, this defense has been soft and has lacked true leadership and intensity. I think Schwartz changes all of that, and by going out and getting a collection of “his guys”, the team is setting up the defense for a quick turnaround.
Did I mention how thrilled I am that Billy Davis is but a memory at this point?
Will There Be Any More Moves?
The Eagles are sure to make some minor additions here and there, but does the team have any more significant moves up their sleeve?
One guy I’d like to see the team make a run at is Rueben Randle.
The Eagles desperately need a veteran presence at the wide receiver position, and Randle is a guy who can fill that role while still being young enough and having enough upside to grow and improve with the rest of the receivers.
Final Thoughts
While the money that Chase Daniel got is a little absurd, I’m satisfied with what the Eagles have done so far.
Holes in the defensive backfield and on the offensive line have been addressed, and the team has gotten better depth in other areas. More work needs to be done, but for the time being I feel good about where the team is at and the direction that they’re heading in.
Denny, don’t get too happy yet.I would not be surprized at all if the Eagles spend their top draft pick on whoever they feel the best running back for their system is .And to plug him in as an immediate starter.Instead of the big o ilne man y’all are expecting.
I guess you don’t understand that first round backs are…. STUPiD! This isn’t 1972… Draft a no lineman or an impact defender… RB doesn’t have that kind of value…
Agree
On draft day, you just might be surprized.
Substitute “disappointed” for surprised …..drafting a RB that high is stupid. RBs are disposable, interchangeable for the most part…AP is a wonderful back, shady has been good, even demarco was very good… But nah, I want a SB
Elliott has Gurley type ability, he may be a better running back than McCoy. A guy like that you take in the first round.
You can’t win in the Playoffs without a very good Running Game whether it’s by comitted like the Patriots have done, or big rushes from your QB’s like Cam Newton, Russell Wallace or even Kap with the 49ers…
Somehow the Top Teams rush for 150 a Yards + a Game in December & Playoff Football
Teams like Ravens,Steelers, Packers, Seahawks, Panthers are built this way and since the Eagles QB’s (Bradford or Daniels) are no threat to run then these rushing yards will have to come by RB’s Corp…
Is a RB Corp of Matthews/Sproles/Mid-Round Pick Capable of this in 2016? ?
Except this year Denver averaged 108 a game in December and playoffs and the year before New England averaged 92…. Pesky facts always get you fraud
Who is Russell Wallace?
A Nascar Driver … Ha — I meant Russell Wilson
hac btw just to be clear, I am not claiming to be a news breaker. just some talk I have heard around the nfl insiders, Not me , I m just a fan , but a gentleman who I think is on Ohio State is being suspected by some to be Eagles 1st pick .Wish I could tell you I broke this bit of info , but I am just an average Joe, named Patrick , And you are too young in life to stick to a few rules, dated back to the 70;s.I already have enough street creds to last me for the rest of my life, So as I said I am just a fan with an opinion.
WTF does street cred mean? That’s a hilarious comment… What street are we talking bout?
LMAO!!!
Creds clean up from Abbott ,Texas, poulation round bout 372.
Everybody keep saying take a tackle, you can get a right tackle in the third round. You guys seem to forget lane Johnson is the future left tackle of this team. They have paid him as such
20 carries 230 yds and two touchdowns against bama, enough said. Zeke the freak coming to town boys get use to it.
And don’t forget that Lurie and Howie may not be Phila. blue collar type of rebels They may have zillions stashed in hedge funds ,but they still have that good ole boy Johnny Reb in them.
Bath salts???
If the Eagles were looking for a left tackle yeah then you draft that position in the top 10. Left tackles are critical, again they don’t need a left tackle. Example Tra Thomas was our left tackle he was drafted first round. Jon Runyon was drafted in the fourth round he was a great right tackle get it got it good.
Um the eagles didn’t draft Runyon…wtf…
Are u telling me the eagles don’t need another stud OL ?
I know houston drafted Runyan my point being you can get a great right tackle in later rounds. Zeke Elliott,is a game breaking talent that they don’t have on offense period.
There are examples of good players at every position from every round … It is just a pretty common concept to not waste round one on RB
ok let me ask you this, do you think Todd Gurley was picked at a bad spot last year?
All I’m saying is Elliott’s on Gurley level, and if you don’t want that in Philly then ok.
Ask me bout Gurly in 2-3 years after he gets used up helping the Rams climb to a 500 record..
My point is a dynamic high round back isn’t necessary. Look even lynch who was drafted 10-12 did NOTHING for the team that drafted him. AP I think has been to playoffs once….
Leading rusher on broncos 3rd round, send rusher UDFA
Second
Denvers Top RankedDefense Won Super Bowl, they got what 4 TO’s for 10 Pts, ran punt back for short FG for another 3 points .. Their Offense did little all Season long which was a fluke…
Steelers under-manned without their top 2 Playmakers in Antonio Brown & Leveon Bell and were the only Teamto give the Broncos a run for the $$$
Pats O/Line was a mess all Season, will little to No Running Game, No Outside WR Options .. Pretty much Brady to Gronkowski with the Slot passes to Edlemenwhich was their Run Game in away..
Packers had overweight & sluggish RB all Seasonand were not the same Team
Seahawks with no M Lynch down the stretch became a more pass happy offense which RW put up goodStats, but no W’s inthe Playoffs…
Honestly tho the Cowboys may take him at 4 believe it or not. Especially if they don’t take a quarterback.
Where are any of you getting that Elliot is not on Gurleys level? I happen to attend the University of GA, and have watched every snap that he had while attending UGA. The man was a freak of nature, no doubt about it. But that man Elliot can be just as good, if not better.
If he’s there, you seriously contemplate taking the man. Who cares if it is in round 1? Take a great player to help this football team win. He could be our version of Leveon Bell, mixed with a little bit of Shady Mccoy. Make no mistake about it, Elliot is very shifty.
Him, Sproles, and matthews would be scary behind an improved oline.
I really want us to go Deforest Buckner round 1, or Alexander how ever. Imagine Alexander in this secondary with Eric, Rodney, Shepperd,, and Jenkins? Or
Deforest, Curry, Graham, and Fletcher. Wow.
CT Buckner will be a bust and after watching the rbs year this guy cj procise is the real deal, he looks just like shady, I think ehl called them carbon copies, man I love this kid, can be had in 3rd rd
I’m not saying he will or won’t be a good player- i am speaking to the point that an elite back in the first round is a bit of a waste- backs miss a high number of games typically- case and point you mention Bell and shady- excellent backs (both drafted in 2nd round BTW) but in shady’s long career he hasn’t done much to help his team succeed in the post season- in Bells short career the steelers I think they have been in 3 playoff games and he’s played in NONE of them!
A hotshot back is a shiny toy… but not worth the squeeze
You can’t get to the Playoffs without that good to very good RB Production ..
QB Play and Great opportunistic Defense Wins you Championships but Good RB Production helps get a Team to the Post-Season to begin with..
Right now, today, the Eagles have neither ..
you defined good to very good RB production as 150 yards per game in Dec/playoffs yet the last two SB champs had 92 and 108 yds per game TOTAL — you need three good backs that can churn out yards and break one for a nice play– they are generally disposable players–
FLIP FLOP!!
So you guys want to spend the number 8 pick in the draft on a right tackle. Okay who does that, nobody takes right tackles in the top ten of drafts either. So I guess we might as well go corner then
Not mepdiddy, I want a Player at #8 who is going to help this Eagles Offense Score Points, sustain drives and close out games.. The Eagles addresses quite a bit on the Defensive side of the Ball, they have settled at QB with a Bradford/Daniels , they have addressed 1 Guard Position, now they have to address their biggest need going forward.. Who carries the Ball for this Team ?
If there was a big time WR I would think that would be a possibility but to be honest, this Draft Class is very weak with top end WR’s so I am taking the Best RB of the Draft in Elliot.. If he’s gone, then I’m grabbing the Best CB (Alexander or Apple) I’ll use the 2 Picks in the 3rd for the OL (1 OT & 1 Center/Guard) and then use a 4th Rounder for a developmental QB to groom behind Bradford/Daniels
The Eagles addressed a lot on Defense in Free-Agency with Scwartz’s guys, now it’s time to upgrade the RB, OL & WR Position with the Draft
Lane Johnson was four. The most reliable top ten picks are OL
There are a consensus 2 OL in the Top 10 (OT’s Tunsil & Stanley) and then a significant Drop off to the remaining OT’s Conklin, Decker, Imfeldi, Spriggs who have late 1st Round/2nd Round Grades so you not taking one of them at #8 if both Tunsil/Stanley are gone which is predicted by most …
Tunsil will go #1 to the Titans to Protect Mariota for the next 10 Years
and R Stanley will go to with the Chargers, Jaguars or Ravens by #6
The rest of the OL are late 1st Rounders and likely will need a Year to be groomed
If Peters is playing 1-2 more Seasons than any OT Selected in the 1st Round for the Eagles won’t see the field any time soon unless an injury occurs?
Eagles need this #8 Pick to Contribute right away in 2016 so a RB, CB, LB, WR or Rotational Pass Rusher
Use a 3rd,4th or 5th Round Pick for a RT who has a 1-2 Years to be groomed
Lane Johnson was already drafted to be peters-replacement. So they put him at right tackle until peters is gone. They paid lane like a left tackle he is to young to say ok Stanley will replace him. Stanley would be great if we needed a left tackle but we don’t. We need a difference maker on this offense. Matthews is what he is , hopefully agholor will step up but just in case that don’t happen. We need ZEKE DA FREAK
Preach pman preach your post is so true.
In my opinion if your not taking Elliott then you gotta go defense at 8.
This turned into a RB vs OL discussion… I never mentioned one name…ever. I say the common factor is to not draft a RB in top ten… It’s always a disaster and doesn’t do anything to attaining a goal of SB success… Fact!
Fraudman says you need a 150 yard back to win SB …false!
I say take the best non- RB at 8…. OL , DL, DB…whatever but get a back in round four
So you are saying that Todd Gurley was a wasted pick then. I just want to make sure e I’m hearing you right. Gurley was a mistake at ten right?
Eagles Signed 3 DB’s in Free Agency, Drafted 3 DB’s last Year
Signed 2 LB’s (Bradham/Goode) and locked up DE Curry and will move Graham/Barwin back to DE in Schwartz’s 4-3 Scheme who bothPlayers are under long-term Deals
Pederson will carry 4 RB’s and not 3 like Kelly did…
Eagles have Sproles/Matthews they 2016 and that’s it other than Barner and Oractice Squad Players… Neither Ryan Matthews or Darren Sproles are 15-20 Carries a Game RB.. Pederson will Draft 2 RB’s this Draft, 1 Early and 1 in the Mid-Rounds for Matthews/Sproles will both be gone after 2016
Not yet… I do predict playoff success will elude the rams in Gurleys tenure as their number one back…so you be the judge
I equate the lack of success for the Rams directly at their HC Jeff Fisher who hasn’t seen a .500 Record or Playoffs in about 10 Years…
How that guy remains a HC in the NFL is beyond me…
You mean the Jeff fisher who foolishly wasted a top pick on a RB?… That Jeff Fisher?
The Problem with the Rams have not been their Drafts, it’s their Coaching..
They’ve gone thru 3-4 Offensive Coordinators in the last 5 Years with multiple High Draft Picks along their OL, WR, DL & QB in recent Years..
Todd Gurley was about the only positive thing the RamsOffense had going last year and your going to be critical of him? Also note that Gurley missed most of the Summer Camp and was held out of Pre-Season due to recovering from knee surgetry and you are going to call him a bust when he won the Offensive Rookiwofthe Year with poor QB Play? Do you even watch Football HAC?
we shall see come draft time what the Eagles will do. We can go back and forth forever. Howie will pull the trigger if Elliott is there.
Fraudman pay attention….I’m not speaking specifically about Gurley , he obviously had a good year but…or should I say BUT … Given the short career of 25 carry backs, the expendable nature of the position, the fact that similar production can be found in UDFA year after year…. Give me OL, DL or a CB…if not a QB
So your Eagles Pick at #8 is whom, HAC?
Make a Call….
I ink they get Stanley …second choice Lawson maybe
people keep talking about playoffs/championships…. LMFAO
Eagles gonna be awful this year. 6 wins max. major question marks at cb, linebacker, de.
qb is putrid
wr are way below average
cant win on offense with a trash qb and below average wr
cant win on defense with questions on d line, lb and cb
gonna be a long year
Eagles better win this division –
A lot of cash was spent, A lot of cash.
Curry, Bradford, Daniels, Ertz, Johnson, Celek, Jenkins, Brooks, Brooks, McLeod, Bradham. ( Eleven contracts )
The Eagles are in better Position to Win the NFC East now than they were a month ago… This is about all you can ask as a Fan, there is nothing that’s guaranteed and nothing is a given when it comes down to the NFC East..
The Eagles must Go 4-2 Versus their NFC East Foes to have a Good Chance.. .
Eagles & Giants are both over hauling their defense with free agency.
NY Giants added CB Jenkins, DE Vernon, DT Harrison, OLB Robinson.
Eagles S McLeod, LB Bradham, CB McKelvin, CB Brooks.
I thought we were talking draft/FA and HOW to build a champ??? every team has question marks this time of year. Even perennial powers: SB champs lost a bunch and have no qb, NE has no playmakers and brady WILL hit a wall at some point, Breese is old and has sucked his teams salary cap, the seahawks lost a ton, packers struggled down the stretch…so…
I was at the Briar last night (I’ll wait while you google it)
Anyway, in “the patch” with a group of friends and had to endure 10 min barrage of”
“What the hell are the Eagles doing?”
“Bradford AND Daniels? IS Fitzpatrick next? Manziel?
“The Eagles are cornering the market on shitty QBs!”
“Did they just sign 4 Bills? That’s a great idea..they’re always so good”
“You going to go buy a Bills Jersey?”
“I turn on the NFL Network and its Eagles, Eagles, Eagles…a lot of noise for a team that’s never done shit.”
“When did Snyder buy the Eagles”
Not much I could say other than, “we’lll see”
But I didn’t say it with a lot of confidence.
Isn’t a “Briar” a Person that is from Southwest Ohio or Southeast Indiana?
also is reffered to a “Patch of Woods”
Jeff Lurie is rolling back the clock trying to implement those systems and blueprints that made his team a perennial playoff performer –
Here is his draft picks that were higher than pick 15 to get an idea what Lurie’s past says about this 2016 #8 overall pick this year:
7 Mamula, 11 Tra Thomas, 2 McNabb, 6 Simon, 14 Bunkley, 13 Graham, 4 Johnson ( All lineman except McNabb)
Do note that Eagles had some Young RB’s during this time also
who were approaching their Primes (D Staley,,B Westbrook,L McCoy)
Eagles currently have Ryan Matthews & Darren Sproles as their main RB’s who both are in their Final Year of their Contract’s and past their Primes in terms of handling the Rock 20+ per Game..
None drafted in the first round of course.
They didn’t need to as they had proven young RB’s on their Roster while they could Draft RB’s for the Future… They had Staley when the Drafted Westbrook,
they had Westbrook when thy Drafted McCoy… Right now, they don”t have young promising RB on their Current Roster at all .. and no RB under Contract beyond 2016? They may have to bite the bullet to get back to having a streamline of good young RB’s again..
eagles arent taking elliot stop.
they are gonna take either
wentz if available or whoever is the highest rated a tackle or a cb
The questions are as follows:
Will the Eagles defense be better under Schwartz than it was under Bill Davis last year?
Will the Eagles offensive line be better? Will they protect Sam Bradford?
Will Nelson Agholor fit the new offense?
You forgot
“Will Sammy Waterford throw for more than 19 tds for the first time in his career in a league where 2nd year Qbs are throwing 30+”
QB Shakeout for the NFL By Summer Camp
LA Rams – Sign RG3 to Battle with Case Keenum, Nick Foles
Browns – Trade for Kaepernick, Select QB in the Draft
Broncos – Sign Ryan Fitzpatrick and Draft a QB in the Draft
49ers – Trade for Mark Sanchez, keep Blaine Gabbert and then Draft a QB at #7
Jets – Sign Free-Agent Drew Stanton of the Arizona Cardinals and keep Geno Smith
Eagles – Bradford is Starter, Daniels is Back-Up, and then Draft a QB in the 3rd/4th Round
New Mock Draft after QB shakeout from above
1) Titans – OT L Tunsil
2) Browns – DB J Ramsey
3) Chargers – DL J Bosa
4) Cowboys – QB C Wenz
5) Jaguars – DE D Buckner
6) Ravens – OT R Stanley
7) 49ers – QB J Goff
8) EAGLES – CB M Alexander
9) TB Bucs – CB V Hargreaves III
10) NY Giants – DE S Lawson
youre on shrooms if u think cowboys are taking a qb
Its what Coach Jason Garrett wants, Tony Romo has 2 years Tops left, they
have no Quality Back-up QB who can even Win a Game or Two…
even playing in the Weak NFC East.. GM Stephen Jones and Coach Jason Garrett out Vote Jerry Jones and get their Future QB
IF DB J Ramsey was still on the Board, then maybe they would Select Ramsey, but with Browns Trading for Kaepernick, its pushed the available QB’s down a notch..
I could also see the Cowboys Trading all the way back from #4 with the Jets at #20, who do need a QB (Wenz Or Goff) and Send DT Sheldon Richardson and multiple Draft Picks
Cowboys take RB Henry from Alabama at #20, Get DT Sheldon Richardson,
and other High Draft Picks while the Jets get their Future QB
Do Note that Cowboys Garrett and Staff Coached and worked with QB Carson Wenz all week down at Senior Week and was very impressed with him on and off the Field… The Way Romo’s been injured alot the last couple of Seasons,
Wenz may be forced to play sooner or later…
You just spent two days arguing that the were taking Elliot and he isn’t even in your top ten? Flip flop
No Vinnie, I didn’t forget anything. I covered the main factors.
If the Eagles establish a dominant running game, with a good offensive line play Bradford will throw the touchdowns and he will be fresh because he’s not getting battered by the defense.
Its going to be a long frustrating year for you Vinnie….
Sam Bradford is the Eagles No#1 QB
They are not trading him
They are not starting Chase Daniels
They have rejected your ‘rebuild’ stupidity
Long, frustrating year for you Vinnie
Fool ass!
Bradford will be starting and playing well…the Eagles make the playoffs
There are 10 players worthy of being drafted at 8! If one of the QBs makes it to 8 – got to take him due to the importance of the position. If Stanley is there at 8, got to take him. Will solidify the Oline for years – even after Peters retires. If the QBs and Stanley are gone, then who? My guess is the BAA who has slid to 8: Hargieves? Buckner? Elliott? Jack? I can make a case for each one, but not sure you can go wrong with any of them.
Oldphilly, Who at #8 impacts the Eagles the most in Terms of improving their chances to Win Games and Compete for the Playoffs for the 2016 Season
Not necessarily 2-3 Years down the road but next Season
Also note who the Eagles are facing next Season (AFC North, NFC North)
That’s if the Eagles see it your way I don’t see any of these qb like that nor would I ever consider drafting any of them with the #8 pick.
None of the 10 players should be a QB-Oldphillyfan…here is a list of the top ten in my view:
1.Laremy Tunsil (OT)
2. Jalen Ramsey (DB)
3. Myles Jack (LB)
4. Joey Bosa (DE)
5. DeForest Buckner (DE)
6.Ronnie Stanley (OT)
7.Vernon Hargreaves (CB)
8.Ezekiel Elliott (RB)
9. Jack Conklin (OT)
10. Shaq Lawson (DE)
Grabbing anyone of these players at 8 works for me…
Quick Paul, name the last top ten draft pick at RB to win a SB with the team that drafted him??? Then name the last top ten at just about every other position….
Steelers won a SB with Jerome Betthis who was a 1st Rounder by the Rams
Seahawks won a SB with RB M Lynch who was a 1st Round Pick by the Bills
Ravens had RB Jamal Lewis who may have been their 1st Round pick
49ers had Frank Gore but they lost in SB to Ravens
Broncos had Monte Ball a couple years back but he was a non-Starter
Tony Dorsett, Franco Harris, John Riggins. Marcus Allen all Won SB’swho were 1st Round Picks..
The Eagles can get a running back later in the draft enough of your foolishness.
They Can also get a lineman later too. They just addressed the offensive line.
Team that wasted a draft pick….
Lewis was 2000!
RB is a wasted pick
In recent time, not many Teams who have Top 10 Picks have even made the Playoffs, let alone gone on to Win the SB??
Does this mean all these Picks were wrong or Bust Picks?
Or is this a reflection of how poorly Franchise’s like the Jaguars, Raiders, TB Bucs, Browns, Bills, Titans, Chargers, Redskins, Rams, Lions have been consistently mis-managed and Coached and run by their Front bet if you researched these Teamsi listed above, many have Taken QB’s OT’s DE’s, CB’s & WR’s with their Top Picks .. Does this meant to pick these Positions?
Pman on fire tonight preach school these dudes
More Super Bowls have been Won with QB’s not Selected in the Top 10 of the 1st Round than in the Top 10 . Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Big Ben, JoeFlacco, Drew Brees come to mind… Does this mean that Teams should not take a QB if you have aTop 10 Pick?
Emmitt smith was a first round pick and won three Super Bowls
And if I recall they tried putting other running backs behind one of the greatest offensive lines ever and they were losing. Not producing like smith did. They promptly paid him.
GoodOne Pdiddy, wasn’t RB Jamaal Anderson of the Falcons a 1st Rounder for them when the Falcons went to the SB with Vick even though they lost?
You boys are silly… Didn’t smith play in like the 80’s or 90’s…. Bout 30 years or so? Hilarious….yeah let’s get a back at 8…. Mediocrity forever
Ancient history
Hav at the end of the day if they draft Stanley that’s fine. He will be a great player also. I just think Elliott is a special talent that’s all. I just believe he can truly give this offense a jolt.
He would be a shiny toy… Yeah!
You did not answer
What Team HAC with a Top 10 Pick since 2005, has made the Super Bowl??
Smith was 17 btw.
A top ten pick that made the SB in the next 7-8 years? I will get back to you in that… A top ten pick is a building block… A back like burley won’t be around which is why you don’t draft him
The Eagles since the Reid era has used the philosophy you preach Hav. And they have won nothing outside of chip the Eagles use to always draft lineman early. They have never won a dam thing
There’s only one – Reggie Bush…
The RB position has taken a back seat to WR in the last 10 years
Get the Best Player available at 8 who can contribute the quickest and help the Eagles Win Games in 2016 so they can compete for the Playoffs
Right now looking at this Eagles Roster, the RB Position as well as WR appears to be the weak links.. Eagles have invested 3-4 High Picks in the last 2 Drafts at Receiver (Agholor, Matthes, Huff and even add in Ertz since he’s are ceover more than a Traditional TE… Who have the Eagles Drafted at RB the last few Drafts? No one ?? Chris Polk, Dion Lewis & Shady who are all gone… Relying onFree-Agency or via Trades is not the best way to build a stable RB Corp’s.. Draft them and use themup and Draft the again, why sign Free-Agent RB’s when they are the most expensive Salary and physically used up in a lot of cases… RB in the NFL are better with fresh & young legs and when they are on their Rookie Deals
Not one top ten pick on the Denver Broncos line that won the Super Bowl this year. Oh my no top ten pick no way they won the super bowl. You gotta have that foundation,miss the only way to win.
And their running backs?
Exactly Hav no top ten back either so there should be no harm in taking one then. It goes to show you don’t have to follow any set rule for drafting. So taking a running back first round is possible. You can find good quality lineman in the later rounds also. As the Denver Broncos have proven.
Backs have a short career of 500 seasons
Lmao ok hac
I know you guys hate facts but i went back to 2003 and SB champs average 6.3 first round draft picks as starters. Only 1 had a first round RB (that they drafted) as a starter, R Bush, another lynch was on the seahawks but he was drafted by buffalo-
There were more 7th round and UDFA RB’s than first round picks-
Of the 6.3 most were OL and DL– with quite a few QBs of course…
The good thing is that we know exactly who fraudman will pick at 8 for his next 98 mocks— he has dug his heels in on a RB– of course he aint too bright!
Maybe theseTopTeams with true Franchise QB’s like Brady, Ben, Brees, & Manning didn’t have to rely their RB’s as much as Bradford/Daniels will need to
For the last time, Eagles should pick at #8 the Player who will best help this Offense the most in 2016 & beyond..they spent a lot of resources on Defense this off-season already, now they have to address the Offense and specifically the RB Corp to help these average QB’s &WR’s develop..
Most of the time iamdeadset against Selecting a RB in the Top Half of the Draft
But if both Top OT’s are (Tunsil/Stanley) are gone as expected, then I am selecting RB Elliot to get this rushing attack back up to speed for if your relying on Ryan Matthews to carry the load then you are mistaken…
(Sproles is only a Scat Back at this stage of his career worth 6-8 Touches a Game)
The short term and long term need at RB is so great now for the Eagles, in my opinion, that the Eagles have to look at using this year’s #8 Pick on Elliot who is probably the biggest play making RB in this Draft
Teams Defenses are going to load the box up against Bradord and their pedestrian WR Corp and if the Eagles can’t run the Ball effectively as a Team,
Then their Offense will struggle to Score 17 Points a Game
fraudman– a couple of things: 1. you whined all year about Sproles limited touches and criticized Kelly even though he averaged 9 touches (and even more if you count targets) per game yet you advocate 6-8 touches–HYPOCRITE!!!
2. Manning was not an elite QB this year– far from it– is flacco elite? is eli elite? was brad johnson elite? btw eli had a 7th round RB and johnson a 4th…
you are on record with the back– you went to wall for him- its fine– stick to your guns– will be a first for you– if they draft him i will buy his jersey– if he breaks down in 3 years and the eagles are trending up and get tot the 2020 superbowl– the bulk of the carries will be from a 7th round pick– guaranteed!
Sproles is Toast and on the back end of a nice Career…
Ryan Matthews may not even be onthe Eagles Roster come Summer Camp as Howie has publicly stated that he’s open for Offers which I am sure makes Matthews real comfortable for working out hard and staying in Philly
This current RB Corp is weak for the Eagles .. With a new System, some new players along the OL and new blocking schemes, the Eagles need to get new blood and fresh legs in.. Relying on 7th Rounders or Undrafted RB’s or aging RB in Free-Agency is not the answer… Draft the BPA at #8 in this Draft to help this Offense in 2016 & Beyond and where I’m looking from, it has to be RB Elliot if he’s still on the board if both OT’s (Tunsil/Stanley) are gone as expected..
A QB at #8 would be a wasted pick in my opinion for neither of the 3 (Wenz/Goff/Lynch) are worth it or will see the field in2016 & 2017 as the Eagles have Bradford/Daniels for the short term
Paul, Ezekiel Elliot will NOT be a good pro. He’ll be a little better than Melvin Gordon as a pro ,but just a disappointing…..
There are some RB’s in the later rounds that will have better careers than Elliott….He is nothing but hype’ playing with one of the best COLLEGE TEAMS in the country; surrounded by complimentary talent, but won’t be as good as a pro…….Melvin Gordonisck…..
Again, do not trust any prospects from Ohio State….
If Stanley is off the board, I would trade down a couple of times if possible to strengthen the pass rush, attain perhaps 2 #2’s, continuing to trade down for more picks in the 3rd, and 4th.
Target someone like Leonard Floyd, and possibly work a deal to attain their 1st, and draft Noah Spence.
2a – Paxton Lynch
2b – Vadal Alexander
3a – Jaylon Smith
3b – LeRaven Clark
3c – DeVonte Booker
3d – Willie Beavers
4a – Maurice Canady
4b – Yannick Ngkorue
4c – Tajae Sharpe
5a – Jacoby Brissett
5b – Miles Killebrew
5c – William Houston Carson
6 – Antoine Williams
7a – Jonah Austin
7b – James Conner
Try to attain the Broncos #1 that is, and draft Spence
I was originally a proponent of the Eagles Trading back from #13 to the #20’s to grab a 2nd Tier OT and an extra Draft Pick, but with the Dolphins Trade and moving up 5 Spots in the Draft to #8 Overall Pick, I think it’s now very difficult for Howie to trade back down and now stays at # 8 and takes the BPA to help the Offensive side of the Ball and since it’s very likely that both OT Tunsil/Stanley are off the Board, I think the Eagles should and will look at RB Elliot , with maybe WR Treadwell as an outside chance, though he’s dropping down the boards as well as Noah Spence, who was kicked off of Ohio State’s Program a couple years back and has some baggage that Owner Lurie/Roseman simply stay away from..
Unless Eagles add some Talent, Size Durability to their Backfield here in Free-Agency, I believe they will and should address the RB Position in this Draft
Ryan Matthews is to un-reliable and Sproles is a nice Scat/Back – Change of Pace Back but can’t handle the workload of a true #1 RB
I think the Eagles will Select 2 RB’s this Draft, 1 early and 1 in the mid-later Rounds.. I don’t expect them to add much to the Defense as that’s what they did in Free-Agency though they could add another CB, DT for Depth
I think it would be the right thing to do Paul, if the Stanley, Hargraves, and Ramsey are off the board – I’m not a fan of drafting either Wentz, or Goff
So if they’re gone by 8, my focus now is trading down, and recouping a second rounder, or 2, or 3 if possible – Howie is on a roll – He’s thinking like GMCliff now, so it’s possble.
You know me Paul, I’m all for as many picks as possible, truly building through the draft
I would add some more Linebacker/Pass rush talent….They have no Pass rush.
How long are we going to continue to overrate, and wait for Brandon Graham, and Barwin to overachieve, and become something they aren’t???
We need to add some pass rush. Floyd, Spence, Curry, and a healthy Jaylon Smith upgrade the talent, and the future we have at that position. Antoine Williams is underrated as well, but he plays a lot like Singletary.
I think Treadwell is just a name fans are familar with but can’t see he isn’t half as good as they think he is – That’s why he’s dropping – Think Brian Quick as a ceiling..
Are you really going to put yourself out there and speak for Lurie, Howie, and the FO Brass. Spence is a talent, and all of these young men have done some knucklehead things as college students – even Von Miller – but Denver was smart enough to overlook the negativity, and concentrate in what he brings to the team…..
I’m like OT L Clark of Texas Tech , CB M Canady of Virginia & Safety M Killebrew of Southern Utah & RB K Dixon with those 3rd-5th Rd Selections and if LB Jaylon Smith is still on the Board in the 3rd, you have to grab him for the future even though he will likely miss 2016 but he’s a Top 6-8 Talent
Jalen Ramsey, OT Tunsil are the Top 2 Can’t miss prospects
I don’t like any of the QB’s upside enough to Draft in the Top 15
I think Bosa will be average to below average in the NFL
r Stanley will be a good Player, Buckner I a montage fence about, I think he will be solid and gave a nice Career, but not an impact Player
WR Treadwell I’m concerned about his lack of speed and explosion & route running and think it’s a stretch that a compares to a Dez Bryant
Elliot has had big games vs Top Defenses in College, he’s Young with a good amount of Carries left in his body and is not beat up at all like some backs are coming out of College
RB’s Henry, Booker,,Procise, Presely, Dixon, the Kids from Arkansas & Georgia should have success at the NFL Level..
We may see the Cowboys use #4 on RB Elliot with Bosa dropping..
It will be an interesting 1st around with some teams looking to drop back and then some Teams (Jets, Broncos,Cardinals) maybe looking to move up to a QB if they start falling…
Paul, Elliot is ur guy stick with him… Have some balls…there is a first time for everything….myou believe the eagles are in such a strong position that they can draft a RB at one…. It’s ok, I will stand by you… Draft Paul’s guy, run him 300 times a year and win the championship.,, it will be the first time in years that that strategy works but maybe you are a trend setter…
Right now as of March 12th , at #8, I’m picking RB Ezekial Elliot if both OT’s (Tunsil/Stanley) are gone which is expected..
Now if the Eagles decide to Add a Quality Free-Agent RB , then I change my mind and go CB or DE at #8 so it depends what happens..
Could the Eagles be talking to Alferd Morris, James Starks, Bernard Pierce,or one of the other 20 Free-Agents RB’s out there, sure they could, but I doubt that they are..
Stick to ur guns Fraudman… It will be the first time ever… Be a man, I know that’s not your MO… But I think just this once you can be manly
45 Days until Draft.. Lots of time for things to happen..
Free-Ahent Signings, Trades, Injuries, off the Field Issues, etc,etc
I’m calling RB Ezekial Elliot of Ohio State of now
Who are you Calling at #8 HAC.? What’s your Pick ?
Elliot has had big games vs Top Defenses in College, he’s Young with a good amount of Carries left in his body and is not beat up at all like some backs are coming out of College….BUT..
Remember my statement years ago Paul, some of these players at these prestigious Big Time Colleges max out their talent on their level….Ezekiel Elliott – buyer beware…..
Flacco/Eli played at an Elite Level during their Super Bowl Runs…
Have they beren Elite QB’s since, no they haven’t, but they were $$$ during their runs.. Hell even Kaepernick was hot during the 49ers SB appearance a couple years back..
Whining about Sproles who is now in his final season is a moot point for he is not the future RB for the Eagles and will continue to be a bit-situational Player at most for the Eagles..
Damn you do a lo5 of backtracking,,, hilarious…was Peyton elite or even average this year?
You whined about sproles and changed your tune FLIP FLOP
Peyton had little to nothing to do with the Broncos Winning the SB this Year
Osweiler would have beaten the Panthers..
BroncosDefense scored or set up 13 Points, Punt Return netted the Broncos another 3 Points .. So Bronos would have Won 17-10 anyways
Championship Defense by the Broncos won it for them
Just like Seahawks Defense of a couple years ago beat the Broncos bad in SB 48
Eagles don’t have that kind of Defense so they need a more balanced approach just to make the Post-Season and need to worry about winning the NFC East as that’s the only way to the Post-Season over the next couple of Years
It’s 2016 HAC, Sproles is now a luxury and no longer a major weapon, I’m not changing my tune about him, but rather being realistic about what I expect from him production wise, which is not very much moving forward
I expect this to be his Final Season as an Eagle and probably as an NFL Player
as he winds down his Career…
He faded badly in both 2014/2015 Seasons , some of it was how he was used, some of it is on him, regardless, he’s played a lot ofFootball and has had a nice Career and was a dynamic Playmaker while in his Prime with the Saints..
But he is not that Player anymore.. Talk about another Eagles with a lot of Drop Passes and Sproles had more than his fair share last Season
Yes, so much has changed between December when you were killing Kelly for not using him and now… You sir are a joke
Sproles is washed up , he was horrible in December as was Kelly as was the Eagles.. In fact I would be totally fine if Eagles Released Darren Sproles right now or tried to Trade him .. I don’t see him as any large part of the Future with the Eagles …
This is a very weak WR/TE Class, Pass-Rushers I like are DE’s Kevin Dodd, Ogbah of Oklahoma State, Calhoun of Mich State that are more of hand on the ground 4-3 DE who are longer & leaner with reach
Didn’t you say to stay away from prospects from Ohio State , which is where Noah Spence was recruited and went before getting kicked off the Team?? Would you still like Spence if he remained at Ohio State? What Gives?
If he did remain, he would have likely been a Top 5-6 Pick
Getting kicked out of a program raises flags and having to finish as Eastern Ky raises eyebrows about the talent level of his competition and coachability & maturity, etc.. He’s explosive no doubt and will help whatever Team he plays for but by going by Lurie/Roseman’s past track record, they stay away from players with these type of issues off their Draft Boards, they always have and likely always will would be my guess… It doesn’t matter what I personally think..
Noah Spence, technically wouldn’t be drafted out of Ohio State….. fact
And I know you like Dodd, and Ogbah….but Noah Spence is better than both of them hands down….
I agree in Terms of strictly pass rushing, Noah Spence is the most explosive plays rusher off the edge in this Class.. Can he set the edge, play against the run, understand schemes,& gap responsibility, interview well, handle success & $$$, andbe a team player and role model, etc,etc… That’s for teams to determine and weigh out.. Some Teams don’t care about that stuff, some Teams do… We see it every Draft where Talented Players Fall
Look at Randy Grergory who fell from a certain Top 10 pick to the 2nd Round for failing his Drug Test at the Combine, now he fails 3 more Drug Tests within hisFirst year of the Cowboys that he will be suspended for the first 4 Games of 2016 that the Cowboys are even thinking about releasing him…
Do Teams want Players like this as part of their Billion $$$ Organizations?
Owner Jeff slur i.e. Has always been consistent in this area and stays away from Players with known behavior issues… Its his Team, His $$$ and I respect him for doing so.. He probably tells his GM, Scouts & Coach to simply find another talented player who doesn’t have these kind of issues..
We already know that since he got kicked out og the Ohio Stste Program and then went to Eastern Kentucky
You stated all Ohio State Prospects are overrated, over-valued
My question to you is would you be saying the same thing about Noah Spence if he remained at Ohio State and didn’t get booted off?
If Spence was groomed by Ohio State up to when he was drafted??
Yes, do not trust ANY Prospects from Ohio State…..Football, or Basketball….
I stand pat on that…
Hes 6-2, with Short Arms (33″) and 250lbs and is probably best suited as a 3-4 Pass rushing OLB per Scouting Reports and not a typical long & lean hand on the ground 4-3 DE
Eagles have enough 6-2″ & 6-3″ DE’s .. Schwartxz likes thos e long and lean DE’s who can use there hands well like the Ziggy Ansah type..
E Ogbah & K Dodd fit more of that mold
Good thing I don’t depend upon the evaluations of others to reach my conclusions huh??
There are negatives about every prospect, but he would still be a better NFL Pro tan Ezekiel Elliott Paul….
I don’t care what Pro Focus says, Mayock says, Kiper says, or what any of these so called experts say. They’re wrong every year…EVERY YEAR – So who cares?? – lol – shrugging my shoulders….
I’m starting to buy into GMCliff’s argument about our pass rushers…Graham and Barwin never seem to come up with the big time sack…they are average…
Maybe at 8 we should take the best available pass rushers…if somehow Bosa drifts down to 8 we have to snatch him up…I like Lawson as well…we may have to consider him
Eagles have too many old OLB’s as DE’s for my liking…
Graham,Barwin & Curry will really have to step it up as Edge pass-rushers
Do note that Michael Kendricks & Nigel Bradham will also Rush the Passer from the LB spots… Jim Schwartz also likes to utilize the CB Blitz where we will likely see a McKelvin/Brooks blitzing f om the Secondary …
The Eagles have a lot of Defensive Players under long-term deals , in fact, probably more than most teams have and now the excuses of Billy Davis and his vanilla schemes are gone… Can Cox, Logan, Curry, Graham, Barwin, Kendricks, Bradham, MS2, Hicks get a consistent Pash Rush in Schwartz’s attacking, downhill schemes… We will see , but adding a Long, Lean, true DE and another disruptive DT for depth would be awesome to do..
I like DE Kevin Dodd, DE E Ogbah, DE S Calhoun & OLB Correa as potentials if they can get some 2nd Round Picks ..
Yet also note that Kendricks, and Bradham are not pass rushers by skill, so they would be stop gaps of their positions if they were to draft Floyd, and Jaylon Smith.
……and they aren’t as talented at rushing the passer, as neither has been asked to do so in a manner that qualifies them as having the reputation as pass rushers….
Elliott will flop I don’t want him..
Eagles still better focus on a improved Running Game..
What helps out a New HC, OC with new Schemes with some New OL with a Pocket QB in Sam Bradford?
A Running Game does…. Pederson/Reich know the importance of a strong running game which opens up Play-Action which can be a Strength of Bradford’s Play andwhen he has his best chance to hit a play down the field..
These Play-Actions only work when the Defense honors your Running Game
Last year, No Defense Honored the Eagles Rushing attack and Defenses were able to disregard the play action and come right in after a limited mobile Sam Bradford
This has to be the Eagles Priority for now to Summer Camp
New Blocking a Schemes with new OL and tough, durable RB’s
Does Ryan Matthews give anyone confidence ? He doesn’t for me
Can Darren Sproles be anymore than that 3rd Down Scat/Back at age 33?
who gets his 6-8-10 Touches a Game including Punt Returns? Not to me he isn’t..
I want to see young, fresh legs of a 6-0″ or bigger RB at 220lbs or more, who can run and explode to that 2nd level and beyond.. Is Ezekial Elliot that Runner at the NFL Level or a Derrick Henry ? Who knows… But I do know the Eagles presently don’t have this kind RB on their Roster today nor will they Win Football Games relying strictly on Sam Bradford’s right Arm and a weak Receiving WR Corp that they presently have..
New Coaching Staff, a New Team, lets gets back to some smash-mouth Football like we used to have in Philly in Silver & Green..
Do away with those lame rounded off numerals on the Teams Jerseys and that stupid damn Fight Song..
That starts with an improved offensive line.
And better Schemes.. Enough of these Horizontal, slow developing sideline Running Plays from Chip Kellys flawed College System…
Eagles added Brooks, now Draft another Guard and attacking north and south again and stay away from this sideline to sideline attack
Made a mistake not pursuing Kelechi Osemele.
Osemele, and Brooks would be the best guard tandem in the league, and would kick tail for the next 6-8 years barring injury..
I suggested that same tandem the year they were drafted….
No Team is spending $100 Million Combined for 2 Guards in the same Off-Season .. Draft them, Coach them up and Develop them before they become overpriced in Free Agency but you can say that about every Position, I guess
Osemele got a $62 Million Deal, Brooks a $40 Million Deal with Eagles
Meanwhile the Vikings got probably the best Value in Alex Boone for $26 Million
But at least the Eagles upgraded a position of need and now need to Draft a Guard to battle with Barbree & Gardner for LG
What are you talking about??..The Jags just spent 90 million on Malik Jackson; 1 player!!..lol
Paul, they wouldn’t be spending 100 million all in 1 shot either. Those contracts are incentive laden, with the potential to reach the full value of the contract. That is totally separate from what is guaranteed….
I think you should really separate what YOU want, and what SHOULD be done for the best interest of the team…….and don’t tell me they couldn’t have signed Osemele, and still get some of the other players they signed – because the could –
They just wouldn’t have invested as much in Chase Daniel, but the opportunity was there, and they could still have drafted a guard or 2, and allow them to develop gradually. Not all Prospects drafted are ready to plud, and play.
Do you really trust The Eagles would draft one of those plug, and play prospect??…I don’t, we’ll get crap like Cody Whitehair….. no thanks
***NFL News****
Steelers WR Martavius Bryant faces a Year Long Suspension due to another Failed Drug (Marijuana Test) which this is his 5th Offense in 3 Years
Bryant says he will appeal the findings and result while the Steelers say they will let the process work its way out… Bryant is a very talented Player but similar to Other Players who enjoy their Marijuana a little much, he’s putting his playing days in he opardy similar to Josh Gordon of Cleveland & Justin Blackmon of the Jaguars who is already out of Football
Any thought of a RB at 8 is completely asenine.
A complete waste.
There are only 5 positions worthy of first round (especially in the top 10) consideration ever (in order)
QB
OT
DE
DT
CB
Name the last 10 SB winning RBs….which one went in the top 10 again? What the hell is the difference with a first round RB like Pederson getting 1500 and 13 tds and a combo 3rd and 5th getting 1000 and 500 8 and 5??
Nothing.
I agree. Add OLB to the list for 3-4 defenses.
In this draft, QB would be an absolute waste at 8
Book it Vinnine…your going down wrong again
The Eagles will not draft a QB at 8
Book it!
The Eagles have rejected your every contention, Vinnie…each and everyone
I agree 100%..
Draft a developmental Back-Up QB in the 4th/5th Round as a 3rd Stringer and a Camp/Preseason QB… The Eagles are set with Bradford as the Starter with Daniel as the Backup .. Now they need to focus on the Offensive Backfield
Who Carries the Ball for the Eagles in 2016?
Who thinks that Ryan Matthews can be a workhorse Back?
Who thinks Darren Sproles has much left in his Tank to be more than a situational/scat back?
100% pure trollman
“Now they need to focus on the Offensive Backfield”
They should focus on the offensive backfield in the third round where many good running backs come, like Devonta Freeman, Jamaal Charles, and Frank Gore… Or even later, like Latavius Murray, Justin Forsett.
Once again, your blithering does nothing but condemn the Philadelphia public school system.
Read my post again (and again and again and again – it’ll probably take you a while) and find where I said the Eagles are taking a QB at 8.
All I stated is that, in any draft, the only positions worth a 1st round pick are QB, OT, DE, DT and CB. They are the only positionsevery worthy of expending a 1st round pick. LB, RB, WR, S, K and P are all positions that should be only chosen in later rounds.
End of story.
And btw – the comment was made in response to the seemingly growing interest in Ezekial Elliott. Nothing more.
Now go scream about fool asses or Nick Foles you putz.
End of story.
“All I stated is that, in any draft, the only positions worth a 1st round pick are QB, OT, DE, DT and CB. They are the only positionsevery worthy of expending a 1st round pick. LB, RB, WR, S, K and P are all positions that should be only chosen in later rounds.”
Vinniedafoolass, you prove it over and over again…Simply…you are a :
Fool Ass!!
So lets follow your dumb ass logic. Players like Adrian Peterson, Jerry Rice, Lawrence Taylor, Ronnie Lott, should not have been chosen in the first round. Teams should have waited to grab these great players in the ‘lower’ rounds…
How stupid can you be Vinnie…is it possible for you to descend any further…smh!!!
Over and over again you prove in your posts to be an complete and absolute idiot who simply knows nothing about Football. What people are saying is that they think Ezekial Elliott maybe a special player…much like Gurley of the Rams who would have led the Rams to the playoffs IF they didn’t have your mancrush, Nick Foles, blowing games with his terribly awful QB play….(the same Nick Foles that you want to bring back to the Eagles…smh…damm fool ass)
Vinnie you are brain dead…why do you even bother to post when everything you say is wrong, stupid, or both…
Fool ass!!!!
LOL
“Nick Foles”
I knew you couldn’t resist.
Tell us more idiot.
LMAO…sure Vinnie!!!
We all know how deeply you are in love Vinniedafool
Nick Foles..CTFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He epitomizes your ineptitude, ignorance, and utter stupidity!
What makes him still relevant now was your deep seated desire to see him return to the Eagles! Your fervent hope was that he could make a miraculous return, vindicate your obsession for him by leading the Eagles to the glory you proclaimed for him. Vindicate your ignorant claims that Nick Foles would lead us to a Super Bowl!!!! LMAO!!!
You delusional idiot!
You didn’t see that the floating of his name out there was simply a negotiating ploy for the Eagles to sign who they really wanted…Sam Bradford…you fell for the sucker move- like a fish biting at the bait…you were filled with excitement when you thought the Eagles would dump Bradford and somehow get your mancrush. You could barely contain your excitement when you were citing prospects for the Eagles at QB when you chirped:
“Hell even Foles”
Pathetic, Dumb ass Vinnie!!! LOL
Vinnie, please don’t confuse Paul with facts and reality… He struggles. Let him mock the RB for the next 6 weeks… He can not back away… He has committed
sometimes in life you have to make exceptions boys, ZEKE is a superior talent.
haveablunt ‘facts and reality’ baffle you as well…and if you think Vinnie has a clue that only means you are still all smoked out in your buzzed up, blurred state.
It the Eagles have Elliot rated as a top ten blue chip prospect and he is the best available player on their board when they draft…they should snatch him up.
Protecting the QB and getting to the QB are the premium positions on the field… I prefer they go in that direction. Or even a QB… We only have a a QB on a one year contract…
As long as the Eagles get a playmaker of some kind at 8 I’m fine with that. Rather it be offense which I prefer(Elliott) or defense as long as they contribute this year where good.
HAC , If OT’s Tunsil & Stanley are both gone already as Expected and QB’s Wenz & Goff are both gone too… Then who are you looking at #8 ?
Floyd or Heargraves maybe–
2 Very Good Prospect/Players with High Ceilings at Positions in Demand
OLB Leonard Floyd from Georgia at 6-6′ and 244lbs is a very Talented Prospect..Still Raw and a little thin up top, but very Active and uses his Hands very well for a Young Player per CBS Sports Scouts Page
He has Speed (4.6 in the 40lbs), a Large Wingspan & is Explosive with his 39 & 1/2″ in the Vertical & 10′ 7″ in the Broad Jump and has 17 Career Sacks and in his 3 Seasons at Georgia
Compares to a Young Von Miller to many Scouts in terms of Athleticism and style of Play.. He will need to get stronger with better play recognition and learn to shed Blockers from the more athletic NFL OL that he will face as all young LB’s do when entering the NFL..
Vernon Hargreaves III (5-10″ – 204lbs) from Florida is the one of the Top CB’s in the Draft followed closely by Mackensie Alexander and a rising Eli Apple..
Ran a 4.5 40, Has 39′ Vertical and 10′-10″ Broad Jump..
3 Strengths are his Play Speed, Natural Instincts & Competitiveness that Scouts really love.. Compares favorably to CB Joe Haden who also played at U of Florida.. Needs to work on his Tackling Techniques, getting lower and wrapping up as most young CB’s and Players do coming out of College
Hargreaves or Myles Jack would be great if they are available there.
I would definitley want to have one of the OTs there, so we would be set at Tackle for a long time.
I like CB Mackensie Alexander and CB Eli Apple upside more than Hargreaves III
I could still get a Trade Alert that is too good to pass up for that 8th pick too..
Damn Temple Chokes against U Conn who had to Play and Win a 4 OT Game yesterday Vs Cincinnati and they lose by 15 to the Huskies…
The Giants are really positioning themselves for another possible Super Bowl opportunity. They are solidifying their defense, Victor Cruz coming back. They have Odell and with the tenth pick they are talking about taking an OL to sure up there line for the next ten years……………NO THERE NOT THEY WANT ZEKE DA FREAK, THEY TRYING TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. While we are suring up our line for the next ten years. Yeah and still win no championships in the next ten years.
I dont really watch NCAA football ( i dip now and then but I cant stand guys getting paid and everyone pretending they arent. Might as well just pay em)… but…. as far as draft goes IMO….
Q,DE,OT CB- this is the order of importance. It would take someone very very special IMO to break from grabbing anything else when you have holes to fill here. If you run a 3-4, i can see grabbing a pass rushing LB too but…. they would have to be ridiculous.
I cant say I have been blown away by any of these QB’s but… we dont draft this high usually. Im tempted but…. id pass on a QB early (though if DP finds his guy…get em.
If I could grab anything…. id go for the elite CB
According to CSN Philly reporter Derrick Gunn Nolan Carroll re-ups with the Eagles on a 1 year deal.
I saw that and was a little surprised that Nolan decided to stay
You can most likely take any CB off the Draft Board at #8 for the Eagles now
With Veterans Carroll, McKelvin, Brooks all signing Deals to go along with
youngsters Rowe,Sheppard,Rice and Watkins, that’s probably it for CB with maybe a CB added in the mid-late Rounds or as UDFA to bring in some Camp Bodies… .
#8 now looking more like and OT,QB,RB,LB,DE for the Eagles
I still say they are Going RB Ezekial Elliot, who is one of the actual few Offensive Playmakers in this Draft..
I really hope they pass on these Top 3 QB’s at #8 as they can grab a 3rd String/Developmental QB in the 4th/5th/6th Rounds from this Draft Class
The Pool of Players at #8 is probably now down to OT Stanley, DL Buckner, LB Mack, RB Elliot, DE Lawson and maybe DT A Robinson
If they could get Jared Goff at 8 I would take him in a heartbeat.
i see no way goff drops to 8…. QB is just too important and at least 2 teams 1-7 need a qb….
You’re probably correct cigar, but I would love to see him fall to us.
I guess we are going to find out how much Pederson likes Lynch. If he like him, he will take him at 8. Otherwise we need a road grader…
As mentioned the draft is a crap shoot– we have seen consensus number one QBs fail miserably and we’ve seen later picks succeed– i personally haven’t seen enough of any of these guys but I do predict a predraft freefall (questions) about one or both– but i’ve been pretty vocal– i believe in the OL as a start…
QB’s Taken in the 1st Round for 2016 Draft
#2 Browns — Either Wenz or Goff for sure for a new Face of the Franchise
#4 Cowboys – Could take whichever QB is left over – I say unlikely but who knows
#7 49ers – Definitely taking whichever QB is left over over
#8 Eagles – Could take Lynch or a Position Player
The 49ers may want to move Trade up with the Chargers at #3 to ensure they get Goff or Wenz.. Chargers need a lot of Players and 49ers have 12 Draft Picks this Draft and could send a few to Chargers to make this happen
This means the Cowboys at #4 won’t be looking at one of the Top 2 QB’s
but instead may have DB Jalen Ramsey there for the taking which gives them super athlete Byron Jones from last Draft and Jalen Ramsey in 2016 to build a Stud Secondary with….
why would San Diego pass on perhaps the best player in the draft (Ramsey) for a crap shoot at 7? Sure they get a good player, but not the best player. Besides the cost could be prohibitive.
Btw, still think Stanley will be our pick at 8.