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Should It Be A Competition Or Let Carson Wentz Sit?

CarsonWentz9Should the Eagles emphasize order, with their plan to let Sam Bradford be the starting quarterback?  Or should they emphasize competition and let Bradford battle it out in training camp with rookie Carson Wentz to which one will be this year’s starter?

Head Coach Doug Pederson has been clear about saying Bradford will be the starter this year as Wentz learns the NFL game.

But yesterday defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz let everybody know his opinion the matter.

“Don’t judge him on something else,” Schwartz said. “And also don’t pre-determine the result of the race.  Let him go play. Don’t put extra pressure on him. I can’t speak for Carson.

Today offensive coordinator Frank Reich was on the 94-WIP Morning Show and he tried to come down in the middle on how the Eagles show govern the competition for quarterback.

“No, [calling Bradford the clear No. 1 is] probably not the right impression,” Reich said. “I’ve been around this business a long time as a player and as a coach, and one of the things I’ve really come to appreciate is it’s not a contradiction to say you’ve got to have order. Because if you don’t [have] order it’s chaos. So, if you’re the head coach you gotta come in and you’ve gotta establish order. There has to be organization, there has to be order, but the other thing that — as coaches — that you’ve got to establish is a culture of competition. This is one of the most competitive industries in the world and so, to say that there’s not competition, that’s just the furthest thing from the truth.”

A few years ago Seattle signed Matt Flynn to a $19 million dollar deal and thought he was going to be their quarterback.  They drafted 5’11” Russell Wilson in the third round and before they got out of training camp, Wilson showed them that he was their best quarterback, so Pete Carroll made him their starter and the Seahawks haven’t looked back.

I think Wentz is going to be on the field before the halfway point in the season.  I think he’s much further along than most of the first round quarterbacks who have come into the NFL in recent years.   I don’t think Bradford has the body to endure an entire season.

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vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 25, 2016 4:44 pm

Bradford must start. Must. It is the only feasible option and I will explain why.

Its the “safe” damage control(able) option that the team must choose. And the entire FO and coaching staff knows it.

Let me explain:

First of all, we must remember this is Philadelphia, not Seattle. And its the Philly media always circling and looking to pounce.

Wents starts. Wins a couple, loses a couple…then game 4 or 5 he has the game every rookie has. 14 for 30 with 3 ints and a big loss. He follows that up with another stinker..1 td and 2 ints in another loss…maybe 2 weeks later with another abysmal performance at 9 or 23 for 122 and a pick in another loss…. (I only bring this up as its exactly what Wilson did through his weeks 4,5 and 7 of his first year)

How would that go over in Philly?

It would be a fucking disaster.

“Why do you even have Bradford???”
“What the Hell is this coaching staff doing?!?”
“Wentz clearly wasn’t ready!!?”
“This is blowing up in Roseman’s face!!”
“How could they take a tier II QB?!?”

And on and on…Koolbreeze would be in here vomiting vitriol.

The team would hear it. The coaches. Roseman. Wentz. Everyone. Toxic.

And again….this happens to every rook.

So what to do? With Bradford on the roster. Bench Wentz?? No fucking way. Do rookie QBs ever recover from that? Have you ever heard of a QB benched in year 1 go on to the HOF?? Confidence is a delicate thing.

So I just cannot see Wentz starting with Bradford on the roster. Unless he balls out all year (and that is an unrealistic expectation) then there will be huge issues guaranteed. You know it. I know it.

Think of the other way around…..Bradford starts. He does well. Great. Eagles make playoffs and have a valuable asset moving forward.

He struggles. So what? Its not the same PR disaster….they can easily spin the “Wentz is not quite ready…we want to put him in a position to succeed. They much through the first 10-12 games Sub .500 and keep repeating the mantra….then get to put the kid in for some pressure-less games at the end of the year.

Its an easy, understandable PR story that they can sell. The other way around? Wentz struggling with Bradford on the bench. That’s a PR nightmare.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
May 25, 2016 7:05 pm

the best time to start Wentz is week one — when Jason Peters and the entire team is healthy against a cream puff, Cleveland.
Game 10,11, & 12 is where the heavy weights on the schedule are located (@Seattle, GB, &@Cincinnati ) Chicken Bradford will be hiding in the trainers room.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
May 25, 2016 9:21 pm

“Bradford must start. Must. It is the only feasible option and I will explain why.”

Flipping, flopping, twisting and turning…scared and confused

Vinniedafool will make your head spin with his dizzy and foolish claims!

After conducting one of the most unfair and foolish attacks on Sam Bradford as a QB and a person…he now has the unmitigated gall to turn around and tell us that Sam Bradford MUST start!
Why is this no surprise!

It is totally ridiculous that Sam Bradford is still on the team…Once the deal was done then the right thing to do was to get rid of Bradford and move on. The massive commitment to Carson Wentz says that he is a rare, franchise QB.

The rare, franchise QB’s should start immediately!

Everyone knows that the kid is going to have growing pains, he is going to make mistakes…Vinniedafool’s contention about ‘confidence’ is absolutely ridiculous.

If this kid is the real deal then he will be able to maintain his confidence despite rough times. The kid needs to come in and play…take his lumps and we should see signs of why the Eagles have invested so much in the kid. We should be able to see and say: “yes, the kid is inexperienced and young and made mistakes…but the talent is there”.

Getting him on the field this year better prepares you for next year…rather than waiting and hoping that he will be ready next year!

If Bradford starts and plays well, it simply raises the expectations on Wentz. If Bradford has a good season and leads the team to the playoffs…the fans will be questioning the organizations judgement…the players will wonder..what the hell are you doing…if Bradford plays and leads the team to the playoffs…the expectation will be for Wentz to do better than Bradford and to exceed what Bradford has done next year….and in his first year of playing…Wentz will STILL have the growing pains.

The Eagles should simply get rid of Bradford and play the kid. Period! Bradford’s trade value is irrelevant…he has a history of injury that will always lessen his value in a trade. Teams are not going to give you a lot for a QB that they know you have to get rid of ….

The Eagles took the foolish gamble, there is no way to put the genie back in the bottle…what they have to do is clear…

Carson Wentz should be the Eagles Quarterback Game 1…

Fools!!!

paulman
paulman
May 25, 2016 9:58 pm

I say ride Chase Daniels mojo to the Playoffs… Trade the other QB’s for Draft Picks , toss inWR Josh Huff to seal the Deal
This 2016 Eagles Offense is going to be ugly …

paulman
paulman
May 25, 2016 10:27 pm

In Seattle, HC Pete Carroll named Russell Wilson the Starter after their 2nd Preseason Game .. In the pivotal 3rd Game of Preseason vs the Chiefs, QB R Wilson played well into the 3rd Quarter and had a nice game solidifying his Spot as the Starter moving forward.. Matt Flynn did not play well his first 2 Pre-Season Games and was outplayed by Wilson alo OTA & Summer Camp. Flynn then injured his thumb and was not available for that Week #3 Pre-Season Game vs the Chiefs anyways and the rest is history …

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 26, 2016 8:33 am
Reply to  paulman

Philadelphia is not Seattle. The Media is not Seattle. The fanbase is clearly not Seattle. Have you ever been to the US northwest? (or Canadian Southwest for that matter?)

They put Wentz in early, when he has his “rookie stretch” (and he will) the media and idiots like Kool with hemmorage panic/vitriole/lavish blame and do all the other things they’re famous for.

As long as Bradford is on the roster, I believe he starts. Well….untill he gets hurt/sucks….which is a guarantee. Then it will be Wentz’s time.

paulman
paulman
May 26, 2016 9:38 am

Where did I say that Seattle and Philly are similar ??
Wentz won’t see the Field until 2017, unless Injuries occur to both Bradford and Daniels.. The Eagles still could have achieved the same results by letting Sam Bradford Walk in Free_Agency after locking up Chase Daniel’s which was no secret that he was going to follow Coach Pederson to Philly…
There should have been no Rush to Sign Bradford since there was a very soft Market at Best for him, It was a calculated rick by Roseman and Co which didn’t turn out good for anybody… The Eagles simply could have had Chase Daniels as the 2016 Starter and groom Wentz for 2017 & Beyond and saved the Bradford $$$ and Drama and the wasting on time of having Bradford taking Reps and trying to build chemistry with Players in a New System since he doesn’t figure in the future anyways…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 26, 2016 8:30 am

“It is totally ridiculous that Sam Bradford is still on the team…”

No it isn’t. No one wantes him and the Eagles received no trade offers. A player cannot be traded unless there is a willing partner. There was not.

I also do not think Waterford should be on the roster. But he is. As I stated, correctly as always, the Eagles paid a 2.1 million premium over a franchise tag to ensure they held his rights going into 2017.

They were planning for this exact scenario. If Waterford plays decently, they’ll be able (maybe) to trade him away next year for a 4th or something. Better than nothing.

But as long as he is on the bench, the best PR move is to play him while spouting the “Wentz will get his chance when he is ready” card untill Bradford inevitably breaks down.

The other way around does not work.

That you want it to be the other way around only confirms that I am right.

zilents44
zilents44
May 26, 2016 10:08 am

Hey Cliff is jaylen a Muslim was reading up on him, and noticed he might be Muslim

Oldphillyfan
Oldphillyfan
May 26, 2016 11:00 am

If we can sit Wentz for a year, barring injuries, that is the best course of action. Look at the QBs who sat for a year or more:

Brady, Brees, C. Palmer, Rivers, Rogers, and Romo.

Except for Luck and Newton, it can be argued that most of the QBs who started early in their rookie year (Tannehill,Dalton,Ryan,Stafford and Bradford) have had major down stretches of underachievement. (The jury is still out on Carr, Winston and Mariota). Last week Bill Poulian said the Jags almost ruined Bortles confidence by playing him too soon. He was saved by a timely and effective off-season.

We have a lot invested in Wentz so let him learn the offense, catch up to the speed of the game, learn to deal with the media and fans when adversity strikes and develop into the franchise QB they think he can become. In the meantime, I will go to every game and root like hell for Bradford and Daniels.

Stevo
Stevo
May 26, 2016 11:21 am

Fully agree with Vinnie. The rook sits for at least a year (id say more like 2) and learns learns learns. This was always the plan, reasonable people said so months before the draft. 1) Bradford. 2) Chase. 3) Rook. It didnt matter who the rook was…. 2nd pick in the draft, 5th round draft choice. Now… to clear a few things up…..

1) “No one wants him and the Eagles received no trade offers”

Incorrect. Denver admitted so. The eagles valued him higher than others. It is silly claims like this that show that you are the second most ignorant poster around.

2) “It is totally ridiculous that Sam Bradford is still on the team…Once the deal was done then the right thing to do was to get rid of Bradford and move on. The massive commitment to Carson Wentz says that he is a rare, franchise QB.
The rare, franchise QB’s should start immediately!”

I dont even know how to tackle this. Its ignorance at the highest level. Sam was told….. all of us were told…… they were going to draft a QB. This qb would be groomed. They were meeting with QB’s. wining and dining qbs. This was no secret. Sam is a player, not a coach. His job is to play football. Yes, he should do what he can to secure money for himself. I have no problem with that. But at the end of the day he has a contract. He is still the most qualified qb to go out and start for the eagles. I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if he played well this year. All the dumb posters on here have their bias and want him to fail. And you want rook to fail. Both are locked into a mindset and place your own ego above the team. Its comments like this that show you are the #1 most ignorant poster around.

The plan was put in motion the moment DP was brought in. #1 Find a franchise QB. #2 Allow Bradford the opportunity to show what he can do.

Its whats best for Eagles.

zilents44
zilents44
May 26, 2016 11:46 am
Reply to  Stevo

LMAO funniest post of day goes to stevo , “ignorance at its highest level” Jesus man u got me rolling

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
May 27, 2016 12:25 am
Reply to  Stevo

“I dont even know how to tackle this. Its ignorance at the highest level. Sam was told….. all of us were told…… they were going to draft a QB.”

What pure stupidity, ignorance and straight up BS!

1. Sam was not told they were going to draft a QB and how could they…the Eagles themselves didn’t know that they were going to be able to move up and get the second pick in the draft.

2. The clearly didn’t tell Bradford they planned on drafting a QB HIGH in the draft BEFORE signing him as a free agent

Come off the pompous high horse Stevo…you are sounding like an idiot ass boy scout…”he signed a contract”…so what he signed a contract. Players sign contracts all of the time and the team cuts them, gets rid of them BEFORE there contracts were up. Bradford made the right play by trying to force the Eagles to actually do what is in their best interest…get rid of Bradford and play the kid.

When you draft a QB that high in the draft and give up a boat load of picks to get him, the notion of sitting him on the bench to ‘learn’ is absolutely ridiculous and stupid. No#2 picks in the draft play and the learn by playing on the field. Everyone knows that the kid is going to make mistakes, have tough times, but to think he should sit for a year is stupid, and to sit for two years is asinine

Fool ass…Stevo stay on your own level and try to deal with Vinniedafoolass…

mhenski
mhenski
May 27, 2016 1:24 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

its all just one big giant smokescreen

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
May 26, 2016 11:34 am

Same argument different day. Can’t wait for a little over 3 more months of this nonsense until the season starts.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 26, 2016 12:29 pm

“Incorrect. Denver admitted so.”

Show me please. I have read 1000x that Denver called and inquired about Bradford. That the Eagles gave a price. Denver then said, “no thanks” and drafted Lynch.

Could you please send me a link to where Denver admitted they “made an offer” for Bradford. I and everyone else would like to know what that offer was.

zilents44
zilents44
May 26, 2016 1:02 pm

That’s exactly what stevo said vinnie. Denver called asked about Bradford and the eagles valued Bradford at a higher price, so it was a no go, how is this hard to follow, of course you will not hear exact details but dude come on don’t let your I hate Bradford bias get in the way of something so simple as this

mhenski
mhenski
May 26, 2016 1:28 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I don’t understand all of this. What is fact is no NFL team wanted Sam to be their franchise qb. Sam was free to sign anywhere and nobody wanted to go near the money or the years the Eagles offered him. Would teams want him on a chase Daniels type deal no ? Most likely.

When we got wentz no NFL teams wanted him to be their franchise qb. One team called and didn’t make an offer. That 1 team was Denver. When your qb is Mark Sanchez you call and inquire about everyone. Just because they called doesn’t mean they wanted him it means the were doing their homework. Had the Eagles wanted to dump him they would’ve picked up the turd most likely.

look if you’re not willing to give up a 1st rounder or a 2nd and 3rd for a qb these days you don’t really want the guy

Stevo
Stevo
May 26, 2016 1:36 pm

Oh sheesh Vin…. always the ignoramus.

“In an interview on The Stephen A. Smith Show on Sirius XM Wednesday, Tom Condon said he orchestrated a plan to get Bradford out of Philadelphia.

We realized we’re short-term in Philadelphia and so … they made a business decision, our next business decision is this: Can we improve our situation? And the Denver Broncos certainly needed a quarterback at the time. Or it looked like they needed a quarterback at the time. They’ve got Mark Sanchez — good guy, good player — but was there a chance we could get there. And so Sam withdrew from the workouts and voiced his displeasure. And at that point, the desired result occurred. The Denver Broncos engaged with Philadelphia, (but) they couldn’t make a deal. And when they couldn’t make a deal, they drafted the quarterback (Paxton Lynch) in the first round. At that point, they’re no longer interested in Sam.”

and elway had this to say…..
“Elway, who might be the best poker player in all of football, was delightfully frank about the situation with King, saying the Broncos were “really close” with Kaepernick and that the Eagles were just “asking way too much.”

so as always… Im locked in on facts and you and Kool argue about what the word “is” means and such.

paulman
paulman
May 26, 2016 2:02 pm
Reply to  Stevo

John Elway stated Publicly that he called Howie Roseman to check about Sam Bradford’s Availability.. Roseman responded that it would take a minimum of Two 2nd Round Draft Picks (2016 & 2017) for Starters and Elway said, “Have a Nice Day Howie” …. No Deal was ever Made or Offered by either Party

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 26, 2016 2:08 pm
Reply to  Stevo

The only ignoramus in the room right now is named Stevo.

Ignorant of the definitions of the words “offer” and “engaged in discussions”

Look buddy, you flat out lied…errrrr exacerrated in your quest to drop the “ignoramus off.

I stated – and stand by the statement – that the Broncos never made an offer to the Eagles. They clearly did not.

You called me an ignoramus for this statement when it is in fact true.

I have asked you to provide proof that the Broncos made an offer and you could not. Instead some pathetic statement from Bradford’s agent about “well…umm…we kinds thought that Denver would be good…so…ah….you know…we sorta set that up and they talked on the phone for 5 minutes, but couldn’t get anything done” as some sort of proof that Denver offered something.

There is no evidence anywhere that the Eagles received an offer for Bradford.

Stevo
Stevo
May 26, 2016 2:13 pm

You stated that “noone wants him” I showed how a team called to see what it would take. Its really cut and dry here. I have no interest in going another round with you about qbs. Time and time again you have lined yourself with the side that loses… you are a joke and everyone knows your position. But if you read close enough you would have seen that we agree with eachother that Bradford is the starter. Go back to fighting with Kool… hes more on your level.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 26, 2016 2:41 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Seriously?

Every spring my wife and I spend a day going to open houses oftern to get decorating ideas etc. She likes it. Whatever. We “look” at houses. I even talk to the agent sometimes to gather info.

But if I don’t make an offer. I don’t want it.

No one made an offer for Sam Bradford. No one wanted him. Period.

You want to hand your hat on “well Elway wanted him because he made a phone call, and I am sure he would have made the trade if Bradford had been available for a 7th round pick” then knock yourself out.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 26, 2016 2:44 pm

Every day I research different companies to invest in. I am “interested”. But if I don’t make an offer…I don’t want it.

Every day I research different stocks to buy. I am “interested”. But if I don’t make a bid…..I don’t want it.

Every day I look at different properties to buy. I am “interested”. But if I don’t make an offer…..I don’t want it.

paulman
paulman
May 26, 2016 3:23 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Vinnie, was that You and Your Wife on a HGTV House Hunter’s Episode from Toronto like 2 Summers Ago….I seem to recall a Balding Fella with an Eagles Shirt and was thinking to myself, Wonder if that’s Vinnie…..

paulman
paulman
May 26, 2016 1:15 pm

Baylor University to Fire HC Art Briles after 8 successful Seasons at the helm.. Maybe they had too much Success too quickly, This “Win at all Costs” has led to many Scandals with the most recent one of Sexual Abuse causing the University to Fire Chancellor Kenn Starr and now its most successful HC ever Art Briles…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
May 26, 2016 3:28 pm
Reply to  paulman

Applaud the decision, thank ESPN Bob Lee for bringing in the local journalists to vilify the University & taking Baylor down, rightfully so. When this kind of nonsense happens with fraternities they suspend the fraternity immediately. When it happens with Football programs they double down and punch the woman in the stomach. This is back to back creepy sex stories about Ken Star since the Bill Clinton investigation to impeach — He was Jeffery Epstein’s lawyer along with Allen Dershowitz who suppressed every connection to the Billionaire perverts using Epstein’s pedophile prostitution jet and island cat house, disgusting.

daggolden
daggolden
May 26, 2016 3:40 pm

Bortles, Carr, Winston, Mariotta all started right away stop with the fucking bullshit he has to sit. Fucking suck ass Teddy Bridgewater can play right away but I’m told Wentz has to wait a year then go through his rookie mistakes next year? WTF. If he knows the playbook play the kid. My god. Fuck that he is the #2 pick in the draft. This idea that waiting a year and then playing him will do something for his confidence is bull. If he struggles next year people will react the same way but just say we should of got the growing pains away last year.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
May 26, 2016 3:55 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Jeff Lurie will get a full 4 quarters of refreshment sales out of suckers like me waiting for the 4th quarter to see Wentz play in the preseason.

CT
CT
May 26, 2016 4:25 pm

Because you have Sam Bradford.
A qb who will be the most healthy he has been in 3 years or so.

He will also be with a nfl team in back 2 back seasons with the same improved personell with some upraded talent and depth at the oline.

I expect rueben randle to be an improvement over cooper and nelson to take a big step this year.

A defense, which will get better as the season goes on will be a nice additon to a sam bradford led team.

Stop bitching about wentz not playing this season. It only helps for the kid to learn and spectate for a season.

We need sam to ball out so we can get a draft pick back.

Daniels will play before wentz does

haveacigar
haveacigar
May 26, 2016 6:17 pm
Reply to  CT

Ct Ruben frank just gave a stat…. 148 QBs have thrown 2000+ passes in their career… Sam has the 8th fewest TDs per attempt….the company he keeps…Joey Harrington, Rick Mirer, Tony Bamks … Yikes

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
May 27, 2016 9:21 am
Reply to  haveacigar

That is a whos who list of mediocrity.

paulman
paulman
May 26, 2016 4:13 pm

**Chiefs News**
WR Jeremy Maclin had to leave Practice today after sustaining a lower leg injury after a pile-up but was not deemed anything serious by their Training Staff after the Practice Session
QB Kevin Hogan, reportedly, is #4 of the Chiefs QB Depth Chart behind #1) Starter Alex Smith, #2) Tyler Bray & #3) Aaron Murray.. Coach AR and others have raved how Tyler Bray has improved and stepped up his game since Last Year and has command of their Offense right now
All 3 Chief Back-Up QB’s to Alex Smith have really no NFL Experience
Bray is entering his 4th NFL Season out of the U of Tennessee and stands about 6-5 220lbs…

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
May 27, 2016 12:31 am

The irony of this is so ridiculous….no team wanted Sam Bradford or Chase Daniels according to the haters here…yet so many of you now want Sam Bradford to start and sit Wentz on the bench…

Scared, frightened…

Let the kid play…get rid of Sam…you have invested too much to sit Wentz on the bench…he is the future…if he has the talent..if he has the skills…put his ass out there…let him take his lumps but he will learn on the job, he will get the experience…and he will get better.

He needs to learn by playing! It is said he is playing well now in OTA’s…if he plays well in the preseason…you have to start the kid…Period!

Stevo
Stevo
May 27, 2016 10:03 am

I asked this same question of Vinnie with kolb, I mean foles….

What has this man done for you to give your complete trust/hope/faith/praise? I mean… I support him and think he will be way better than the clowns here think but, I dont get your all out worship. Can you please explain.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
May 27, 2016 1:03 pm

Stevo there are a lot of things that you simply don’t get…because beyond that pompous tone you strike…you are clueless. so I understand. The reality is that Kevin Kolb/Nick Foles were not the second pick in the NFL draft that you gave away multiple future picks up for.
I don’t have any trust/hope/faith/or praise for the guy at all…I said that drafting Wentz as a high first round pick was a bad, bad move, a risky, unnecessary gamble on a guy who has never played against any high level competition…on even the college level.
However, we are beyond that point now…the Eagles have taken the leap….they drafted the kid…so he needs to play. They need to put him in and allow him to earn our faith/trust/hope/praise….

We all realize that whenever he starts-this year-next year, or three years from now…he is going to take lumps. This part is inevitable and cant be avoided….why wait until next year to take those lumps? Why not take them this year and perhaps be a better player next year? If he is all that the Eagles have claimed him to be and if he is worthy of being the second pick in the NFL draft…he will take the lumps and get better.

If he sucks…he will take the lumps, lose his confidence like Nick Foles and its just a disaster for us.

I’d rather find that out sooner than later! As a hopeful Eagles fan, I am praying that the Eagles are right about this kid and I was wrong.

He needs to play…not sit on the bench!

Stevo
Stevo
May 27, 2016 1:42 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Debate 101- if you cant answer the question, attack the one asking. Fair. Fair. predictable but fair.

Yes yes.. im “pompous”, no problem. That aside… could you please answer the question? Ill post it again with a little more spelled out…

Long before our #2 pick was drafted you have been more than a little in love with Bradford. Now I must say… I too believe he is better than most around here think. There is no doubt in my mind that he is an upgrade over Foles…. but I dont get why you are angry that the birds drafted a QB. Can you please explain?

Stevo
Stevo
May 27, 2016 1:49 pm
Reply to  Stevo

actually, nevermind. I was honestly asking you a question but i really dont care your answer. God bless you.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
May 27, 2016 4:47 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Well Stevo, if you came off of your pompous, smug high horse for a change maybe you would gain a little understanding of things.
Also, you have to have a clue before you can ‘debate’ anything!
First, I never said that I was opposed to drafting a ‘QB’…I would have been fine taking a QB in the third, fourth, or fifth round…but keeping our picks.
What I was staunchly opposed to was the Eagles trading up, giving up draft picks to draft Carson Wentz who I believe has a high probability to turn into a ‘flop’.
Now that we have drafted Wentz, I hope that my prediction is wrong and whatever talent this kid has comes to fruition and he makes me eat crow while we are on our way to a Super Bowl.

But if he sucks ass we are in major trouble….

Wentz should play…when you are picked 2nd in the first round of the draft, you should be an immediate starter! Not sitting on the bench.

haveacigar
haveacigar
May 27, 2016 1:34 pm

Sam = Joe Montana (I hope I don’t get struck by lightning)
Wentz = Young

Sam wins us a SB and goes to KC or someplace.
Wentz slides in, takes over and wins us a couple more… one in ’19 and one in 23 or so…so we get one in ’17, ’19 and ’23…. maybe one more in 27 with Wentz being fazed out for the newest and best college QB….. wait for it…. GM Cliff’s son…..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
May 27, 2016 4:57 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

“Sam = Joe Montana (I hope I don’t get struck by lightning)
Wentz = Young’

No that’s not lightning havablunt…just stupidity!

You need to get off of drugs man!

A few weeks ago, Sam Bradford sucked all ass, was terrible, and the Eagles should have let him walk.

Now he is equivalent to Joe Montana???

And Wentz-a Division 1AA QB who has never faced any serious-competition in his College career is the equivalent of Steve Young

Really?

I serious hope this kid is the next coming, the great QB who will carry us to the promise land. If he is the “ONE”…he should play…and spare me the bull of sitting him on the bench for a year so he can ‘learn’…

Bullshit! If he throws 30 interceptions this year what does it matter….he develops he gets better and comes back next year as a better QB…he learns through mistakes, his toughness is tested by the heat of the Philly fans who will boo…through the hard times…it will either break him or make.

If it breaks him…then he’s not a Franchise QB to begin with!

His first year of playing whether its this year next year or 4 years from now will be tough….no matter how you slice it…

Get rid of Bradford now..not because he sucks, not because he’s Joe Montana…but because you have drafted as the No#2 pick of the draft a QB you said is a franchise QB…

He needs to play not sit on the damm bench!

haveacigar
haveacigar
May 27, 2016 6:18 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Check the archives asshole… HAC has been consistent…. Sign him and then him play his way into HOF…. I’m not confident he will but I’ve been saying it since January

haveacigar
haveacigar
May 27, 2016 6:21 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Also dipshit young played at BYU and the level of competition they played at that time was awful. Flacco played at the same level as Wentz, rice, Westbrook, Payton, Ben…jaws….

haveacigar
haveacigar
May 27, 2016 6:22 pm

One more thing who cares about college careers… Oh add Steve McNair to my list

Stevo
Stevo
May 27, 2016 7:04 pm

He is so cemented in his silliness that he doesn’t even know the people around him that actually root for Sam. Honestly.. If bleeding green had a decent comment section….ugh.

Stevo
Stevo
May 27, 2016 7:10 pm

Nothing about the plan changes…
1. Sam us given the chance to shine. 2 year deal. A better Oline. A better D. And the same weapons.

2. Chase is the overpriced backup. And I am super thankful he is here. If Sam goes down chase is the guy.

3. W is the future. I hope he plays so well that the Eagles want him on the field 1 year from now. And I hope Sam plays so well that they have no idea what to do.

Go Eagles. The haters can continue to be simple and ignorant and they can go kick rocks.

Oldphillyfan
Oldphillyfan
May 27, 2016 8:50 pm

In a perfect world Bradford plays well and we score a high pick in next years draft. I can hear the haters laughing, but there are always desperate teams willing to overpay to appease their fans.

patrik411
patrik411
May 28, 2016 2:16 pm

Does it look to you guys, like MR. B. can play 14 to 16 games of rugged,smash mouth football?A defense like the Bengals have would make MR.B. look like a beat up old raggedy ann doll.Thats one reason some teams pick and choose very carefully when a rookie starts , and when a rookie is mentored for a year or two.concussions and the loss of a few chicklets tend to stay with not so rugged for a long while.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
May 28, 2016 9:09 pm

“Nothing about the plan changes…
1. Sam us given the chance to shine. 2 year deal. A better Oline. A better D. And the same weapons.”

Ridiculous and downright stupid

The plan ‘sucks’ and makes no sense at all.

If you have the “same weapons” that didn’t make the playoffs last year how much of a chance is ‘Sam’ going to have to ‘shine’? What Sam needed was some new weapons. Some playmakers…where are the playmakers on this team? How about a running back? Who is a true No#1 receiver on this team that scares any defense?

The “plan” is stupid in that the Eagles have expended massive amounts of resources in the QB position while they are woefully short in other positions like the offensive line, running back and receivers. This is not a ‘plan’…this is shooting from the hip…reckless gambles that makes no sense. If you give up a boat load of draft picks and grab the No#2 pick in the draft…then the sensible ‘plan’ is to build for the future…dump veterans for draft picks, unload players like Bradford who don’t fit in your future plans.

The Eagles have not significantly improved for the future and they have done enough to make a significant run for now.

They have gambled on a Division 1-AA QB that they ‘hope’ can play and want to sit him a year.

Wentz should be your Day 1 starter just like every other high draft pick. Again, especially when you have mortgaged your future to get him. You give up all that you give up to sit a guy for a year? Foolish! This is after you have signed Bradford, who is now a disgruntled QB, to a massive amount of money, overpaid for a back up….

“2. Chase is the overpriced backup. And I am super thankful he is here. If Sam goes down chase is the guy.”

Chase is the guy! Really? An overpriced back up that has never seen any significant NFL action…why are you “super thankful” he is here? He’s never seen any significant NFL action…who knows if he can play?

Ridiculous…the “plan” sucks ass….

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