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Thoughts From Eagles-Redskins

Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz, left, tries to outrun Washington Redskins defensive end Jonathan Allen (95) and outside linebacker Preston Smith as he looks for a receiver in the first half of an NFL football game, Sunday, Sept. 10, 2017, in Landover, Md. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

Defense Strong As Eagles Finally Defeat Redskins

At the first glance of a 30-17 score, one might think that the Philadelphia Eagles won their season opener rather handily against the Washington Redskins.

That wasn’t quite the case, as the Birds were engaged in a difficult battle that finally swung on a controversial call on a late defensive touchdown that favored the Eagles.

The Eagles’ defense anchored them through most of this game. They forced three turnovers, two of which came in absolutely critical moments of the game. Late in the third quarter, the Redskins were threatening late in the third quarter deep in Eagles’ territory, a blitz call by Jim Schwartz led to Kirk Cousins hurrying a throw, and tossing it right into the arms of Jalen Mills to wipe away a scoring opportunity.

Late in the fourth quarter, holding a five-point lead, Brandon Graham knocked the ball loose and Fletcher Cox scooped and scored to give the Birds a decisive late lead.

The Eagles’ defense made plays all throughout the game. The pass rush was strong, and made better by the fact that Schwartz wasn’t shy about sending additional pressure from different spots, keeping Cousins and the Redskins constantly off base. One of the worries I had about Schwartz last year was that the defense wasn’t generating enough pressure, but today the defensive coordinator called a great game.

The defense generated four sacks, two from Brandon Graham, one from Timmy Jernigan, and another from Cox.

This was possible even though the team suffered a major loss when corner Ronald Darby was carted off with an ankle injury. Patrick Robinson and Jaylen Mills were able to step up to help guide the unit through the rest of the game with no major issues.

The defense was also stout against the run, holding the Redskins to just 34 rushing yards from their running backs.

Wentz Survives Pressure, Enjoys Strong Sophomore Debut

Carson Wentz finished his afternoon 26/39 for 307 yards with two touchdowns and one interception.

Wentz was under a constant barrage of pressure from the Washington defensive line, was often able to use his mobility to avoid the rush, and impressively kept his eyes downfield to find open receivers for some pretty big plays throughout the game.

This trend started on the first drive, when Wentz avoided several rushers, got away and found Nelson Agholor for a 58-yard touchdown strike on a broken play. Later in the game, Wentz avoided pressure a made a nice throw down the field to extend the drive and help set up the team’s final field goal.

Wentz’s favorite targets were Nelson Agholor and Zach Ertz. Agholor played perhaps the best game of his career, catching eight passes for 83 yards, and Ertz contributed eight grabs for 93 yards, as his latest breakout year got off on the right foot.

It wasn’t all pretty for Wentz. He isn’t quite in sync with Torrey Smith on the home-run ball just yet. The Eagles took two shots to Smith down the field, on the first play Wentz underthrew him, and on the second attempt overshot Smith by about five yards. The good news is that Smith is getting himself open, and this is a play that opposing defenses are going to have to honor throughout the season.

Wentz also floated a couple passes that killed a couple plays, and in one instance, caused a turnover. In the first half, a backwards pass to Nelson Agholor sailed over the receiver’s head, and the live ball was recovered by the Redskins.

But Wentz’s performance was filled with positives, and its exciting to think of where he can go as the season progresses.

 

Quick Thoughts

Offense

  • LeGarrette Blount was solid in his Eagles’ debut, rushing 14 times for 46 yards, and adding a touchdown reception on the goalline in the first half. Mercifully, Doug Pederson didn’t ask Blount to run to the outside.
  • The running back rotation led to a much more manageable workload for Darren Sproles, who took only two carries and caught five passes for 43 yards.
  • Wendell Smallwood got four carries for four yards, but caught a key five-yard pass for a first down in the fourth quarter.
  • Quiet debut for Alshon Jeffery, who managed just three catches for 38 yards, along with a two-point conversion reception.
  • A little surprising that the Eagles made guard Chance Warmack among their inactive players, leaving only Halapoulivaati Vaitai and Stefan Wisniewski as the reserve lineman, giving the Eagles very little flexibility to sustain injury.
  • Sure enough, Jason Peters would have to leave the game with a groin injury, forcing the team to abandon some of their packages which called for an extra offensive lineman.
  • Donnel Pumphrey and Shelton Gibson were inactive.

Defense

  • Jalen Mills really played a strong game today. In addition to the interception, Mills led the team with nine tackles, and broke up another pass in the endzone.
  • Jordan Hicks had seven tackles, and was once again around the ball quite a bit, recovering a fumble, and also had a sack that was negated by a penalty.
  • Quiet games for both Derek Barnett and Vinny Curry.
  • A little disappointing that defensive end Steven Means was among the inactives. He’s shown such promising pass rush ability, and I was hoping that Jim Schwartz would work him into the defense more this season.
  • Nigel Bradham could have added to the Eagles’ turnover total in the first quarter, dropping what should have been an interception on a route he anticipated and jumped.
  • The defense had a lot of strong moments, but on the Chris Thompson touchdown reception, there was a lot of poor tackling, with at least three Eagles, notably Rodney McLeod and Corey Graham, failing to bring him down.
  • Rasul Douglas and Dexter McDougle were also among the inactives.

Special Teams

  • Caleb Sturgis missed an extra point in the first half, but redeemed himself by drilling three field goals, including a 50-yarder before the half.
  • Corey Clement made a nice special teams tackle to open up the game.
  • Donnie Jones started off the season strong, pinning the Redskins at their own one late in the game, with Jaylen Watkins getting down the field to cover the kick.

Final Thoughts

The decision by the refs at the end of the game to uphold the Fletcher Cox touchdown was shocking.

All of the video evidence seemed to be there to make a pretty convincing case that Kirk Cousins’ had thrown the ball slightly before the rush got there. I couldn’t believe it when the official announced that the call on the field would stand. But that’s the way it works sometimes. For every 50 times that the officials make a bad call that costs your team a game, every once and a while they botch one in your favor.

The Eagles’ defense had played well enough in this game that I would have trusted them to protect the lead even if the call had been overturned.

The Eagles start the year with an absolutely critical division win, which came on the road no less. The quarterback and defense showed some very promising signs. We’ll see what happens next week in Kansas City.

Denny Basens

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CT
CT
September 10, 2017 5:24 pm

It wasn’t perfect, but DAMN WHAT a beautiful win!! That’s how these games go people!! It’s
The NFC east!!

Remember when skins beat Dallas with colt McCoy?? Anything happens. Especially on the road week 1!!! Divison rivals already know each other enough. Now they have to get extra preparation time in week one that’s why it makes week 1one of the weirdest weeks.

Defense looks good. Special teams looks good. Offense had its bright moments also.

Doug had his questionable play calls. That screen to Aghlor messed up all momentum. SCRAP IT.

Nelson Aghlor killed it for me in fantasy. And Caleb and our defense

BigE
BigE
September 10, 2017 8:55 pm

Wentz held the ball too long on many occasions. What happened to short crossing patterns, draw plays to beat the blitz. Peterson called those ridiculous wide receiver
screens with only receivers blocking.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 10, 2017 9:25 pm
Reply to  BigE

Hilarious I’ll informed commentary

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
September 16, 2017 1:33 pm
Reply to  BigE

BigE I agree that Wentz did hold the ball too long at times. But in regards to the screens, that’s on the players to execute. The receivers have to block not look at the defender like Alshon and Torrie did.

Oldphillyfan
Oldphillyfan
September 10, 2017 9:53 pm

According to a neutral source, the replay was inconclusive- possible that his arm was hit by Graham forcing the ball to move forward looking like a pass. In all likelihood that is why the call was not reversed. Good thing it wasn’t against Wentz – WIP would explode tomorrow.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 10, 2017 10:42 pm

What Up GCobb crew !!!!!!!!!
Eagles defense always seems to start terrific the last few years –
causing turnovers, scoring TDs.
Then after a 4 games , the turnovers dry up.
Then the back half of the schedule they run out of gas and turn into mush. I’m skeptical about Schwartz’s boys.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 10, 2017 10:53 pm

any word on Jason Peters injury?
Will he play in KC next week?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 11, 2017 10:40 am

According to Ian Rappaport Ronald Darby has a separated ankle, according to his MRI there is no ligament damage. Darby is expected to miss 4-6 weeks. That’s good news given what the injury looked like when it happened.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 11, 2017 10:44 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Looked horrible. That is the best case scenario for that visual.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 11, 2017 10:52 am

My thoughts from the game.

D line looks good, they are stout inside and out. Brandon Graham had a beastly performance feasting on the skins o line. Corners did a good job, even after Darby left the game. Linebackers look good.

Offense: offensive line did not look good as they allowed pressure to get to Wentz to much and they did not open enough holes for the running game to prosper (2.4 yards per overall). That’s horrendous.

Wentz has to hit on the deep ball more consistently, however, I expect this to happen by games 4-5 as he gets more reps with these new receivers in real game action, they have to develop chemistry.
Wentz is a magician, his pocket presence, escapability and ability to make something out of nothing is a huge plus. He does things that only few QB’s in the league can, on the TD pass to Agholor he reminded me of Aaron Rodgers. Speaking of Agholor, he showed up big, hopefully he can continue to build upon that game and be consistent.
Zack Ertz is off to a great start, he needed to develop chemistry through consistency with a QB, that is happening now with Wentz. Torey Smith is fast and Alshon has a great catch radius, as the season progresses I expect their play making production will increase dramatically as Wentz gets to know them better.
Special teams were good yesterday, that was good to see…Corey Clement found a role on this team via ST’s…he and Hollins had nice special teams plays yesterday.

The Eagles still have things to work on and smooth out, but looking at some of the play I saw yesterday from the Cowboys, Giants and Skins, the Eagles looked better than all of them.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 11, 2017 11:15 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Graham beat up OT Moses. Washington chose to double Cox a lot. Appears to be a weekly big time advantage for the Eagles against the opponents right side of the offensive line. Cox and Graham both sack stripped the QB for turnovers. Massive advantage there.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 11, 2017 11:30 am

Jernigan can get to the QB too, so the double team will pay off more than it did with Logan in my opinion.

I agree that his chemistry will get better with Jeffrey and Smith, because he has almost no game time with either of them. But the magic may be with Ertz all season with no Mathews and the first time Ertz is playing with the same QB 2 days in a row.

zilents44
zilents44
September 11, 2017 11:39 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

No doubt the eagles look better then all nfc east teams and if anybody takes away anything from girls vagiants they dont know football, clearly the giants are different with obj

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 11, 2017 11:35 am

Bennie Logan vs Jason Kelce next week in a NT vs C duel.
last time Lane Johnson went head to head with Justin Houston 4 years ago Houston sacked Mike Vick 4.5 times when Johnson was a rookie ( brutal )
Eric Berry and Ronald Darby week one casualties both out.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 11, 2017 11:42 am

Yeah, I am worried about the O-line vs the Chiefs next week. Chiefs got to Brady this week which isn’t easy.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 11, 2017 11:48 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

I’m excited, Andy Reid week. KC’s Berry blanketed Gronk but he isn’t available this week and Brady was also missing Edelman. Wentz has all 3 of his safety nets healthy and rolling: Sproles, Ertz and Agholor and no Berry to cover them.

GrandPuba
GrandPuba
September 11, 2017 11:51 am

Defense looked good. Carson played a good game but some of the long ball would have been intercepted by a better secondary. Dougie P play calling needs to improve. I would actually start Clements next week and give the run game another dimension. Clements/Blount/Sproles combo could be very effective.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 11, 2017 12:37 pm
Reply to  GrandPuba

hey paul man welcome back!!!!!

mhenski
mhenski
September 11, 2017 12:02 pm

brutal run game, aside from that $$$$$$$$$$ start to the season

crazy johnny
crazy johnny
September 11, 2017 12:57 pm

Nice team win yesterday overall, but obviously not without concern:

1- O-line health and performance
2.- cornerback depth again, although hopefully that will be minimalized by that
pass rush
3- Wentz and his McNabbish short ‘finesse’ throws.

Also, just for the record….Paulman deleted his account and cannot get back on this site due to the no new poster policy. Someone did hack his account and posted fake crap about him.

mhenski
mhenski
September 11, 2017 1:10 pm
Reply to  crazy johnny

great 3 point analysis. so crazy johnny how do you know all this about paul and a no new poster policy and that he was hacked?

gotta admit i like enjoying this win without that doofus, commenting on gameplay based on a boxscore…

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 11, 2017 1:24 pm
Reply to  crazy johnny

His account wasn’t hacked, he’s a Nazi

crazy johnny
crazy johnny
September 11, 2017 1:25 pm

Someone else on here mentioned that GCobb is not allowing new posters, and apparently it is true. Paulman said on here that he was hacked, would be deleting his account, then creating a new sign in. I don’t think he knew that he wouldn’t be able to get back on. I don’t know him personally, but in this day and age it’s not hard to get in touch with someone.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 11, 2017 1:46 pm
Reply to  crazy johnny

I still call BS

mhenski
mhenski
September 11, 2017 2:10 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

when you said for the record i thought you had information , basically was just a repeat what paul said post?

crazy johnny
crazy johnny
September 11, 2017 2:34 pm

ala Pman I was using my sources lololol

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 11, 2017 3:59 pm

I didn’t watch a lot of games this weekend but from what I understand not many teams were ultra sharp on the first weekend. Execution was shoddy league wide. Pats get stopped on 2 4 the ones? Going for it on fourth is gutsy when it works, dumb when it doesn’t…. all that said, damn a two touchdown road win of a divisional game is freaking huge! Costly win tho, damn injuries.

CT
CT
September 11, 2017 8:42 pm

Sammy sleeves out here BALLIN

zilents44
zilents44
September 11, 2017 10:10 pm

That’s the best oline performance this week, good job vikesvikes

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 11, 2017 11:17 pm

Sammy sleeves played a helluva game tonight, gotta give kudos and credit when it’s due, and for that performance…it’s due…All pro performance! I want to see him do it consistently this season, especially against a efense that can get pressure..but Sammy was slinging it downfield tonight with pin point accuracy (surprised the hell out of me)!

CT
CT
September 12, 2017 12:46 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Idk why. He’s always been a baller. Injuries, having a different head coach and system every season. Being traded 8 days before season and still managing to put up 71.6% 20 tds 5 ints with nobody’s around u because the team is decimated.

Sammy put up 19-14 with us, and had 10 tds 4 ints final 8 games. A lot of those picks were on the WR dropping them, and a lot of dropped Tds

Vikings win division, or a wild card team at worst.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 12, 2017 6:37 am
Reply to  CT

Your love for Brad turd is ridiculous….built on excuses

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 12, 2017 7:51 am
Reply to  CT

You do know why, you just refuse to accept the reality of his history. Even when he was healthy he was a checkdown charlie. Sammy has never gone down field as much as he did last night. All of the excuses is for the birds…Diggs is good but Sam made the other WR (Theilen) look good which he’s never done before. Last year he was checkdown charlie, last night was an anomaly, but, it would be cool to see Sammy continue to play like that. One game does not a career make…cool your jets.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 12, 2017 1:20 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Theilen was wide open most the game.( He had a 10 yard cushion) I wouldn’t say Bradford made him look good I would say the New Orleans Saints did. They paid him no mind, didn’t bother defending him. Saints’ secondary has some very high draft picks that don’t look very good. Vacarro and Lattimore are first rounders, Bell a 2nd rounder and Williams a 3rd.

CT
CT
September 12, 2017 2:35 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Who was he going to throw down field to in St. Louis? Brandon Gibson? Tavon tore his acl and Sam never threw him a pass in St Louis

What about Philly? When Murray was getting hit in backfield every play cause chip was trying to utilize him like lesean McCoy ? Don’t forget Sam wasn’t throwing to Maclin, or Desean: he had no help coming back from Injury (2 years )

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 12, 2017 1:24 pm

Coming home from the library yesterday and I was listening to the car radio for the inauguration of Seth Joyner’s new radio show. ” The Seth Joyner Show” on 97.5 The Fan between 6-7pm and he was wasn’t there. I was in the car for 15 minutes of the show and no Seth Joyner. He was late for his own show on the first day. bwahaahahahahaha I don’t know if he eventually showed up but I was laughing because of his absence for his very first show.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 12, 2017 1:59 pm

I listened to some of it. He got there about 6:30…not sure if he offered an explanation for his tardiness. Maybe he was doing a segment on CSN and he had it all worked out. Seth is a good football analysis and has talent as an on air personality…but he has to be on time.

crazy johnny
crazy johnny
September 12, 2017 1:32 pm

Yeah I heard that as well on the way home last night. But as a true ”keep it real” dude he made fun of himself for being late on the first show….it was a good laugh.

CT
CT
September 12, 2017 2:31 pm

It’s not excuses. It’s facts. You need help in this game AT EVeRY level to win.. period.

Sam Bradford is on the best team right now, that he’s ever been on throughout his entire career. Giving him a young back in Dalvin Cook who got better each and every snap is going to open up bradfords game more then anything.

Do not forget Bradford was 7-1 with a 100 yard rusher in Philly and has a amazing win/loss record when having a great rb performance. Only game he lost was against Carolina,
Which we gave away cause of drops.

Take away the pounding off Bradford,
Protect him DECENTLY, and he will pick u apart. He’s only 29 and will be 30 in November.

Teddy is done in Minnesota.

U cannot name me another qb who has been successful having multiple systems, HCs, and teams. Shitty coaches also!! He tore his knee twice and battled back.

Sam is the truth

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 12, 2017 3:23 pm
Reply to  CT

The only “truth” is that last night, at one point, Sammy Seven wins was 7 of 10 for 40 yards.

I’ll let that sink in.

Only later, probably after being continually admonished by his coaches and bombarded with photos of his WRs running wide open all over the field, did he start tossing some 25 yrd passes.

Please remember the Saints have had the 31st or 32nd ranked Pass D for the pass 4 years. They can’t cover anyone and their pass rush sucks.

Bradford threw for 346 and 3 against the Saints. Looks impressive on the surface. But is it?

Here are the last 10 QBs to face the ‘Aints:

Bradford 346
Ryan 331
Winston 277
Palmer 318
Stafford 341
Rivers 321

Fuck even Jarod Goff in his dismal rookie season threw for 214 and 3 tds last year…and he was the worst QB in football.

Playing the Saints is like a free pass to a 300 yard game (unless you’re Cam Newton – but he’s a terrible passer as everyone is now recognizing)

I think you’ll see the true Bradford return this week against Pitt.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 12, 2017 4:09 pm
Reply to  CT

Every QB is good with a 100 yard rusher. Duh.
Different coaches= excuse
Not having this player or that= excuse
Injuries it’s who he is
Drops=everyone has drops, excuse
Offensive line= excuse

So, peters is old and will spend the year with nagging injuries, their CB is hurt, kicker etc…, NFL next man up. One good thing about being in sams fanclub is that at the yearly meetings you get a good parking spot and move right to the front of the line

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
September 16, 2017 1:50 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

You all can post these bs stats about other team’s qbs all you want, but if you’re an eagles fan the only qb you reall need to be concerning yourself with is Wentz. Much like Foles he passed the eye test in regards to a legit NFL qb. But I’m beyond tired of many of you on here with your sacred cows and selective ever moving scale in regards to what makes a good to great qb.

Wentz had a superb firs 3 games last year. I can’t recall seeing too many better in over 40 years as an active fan. But far too many on this discussion board and overall eagle nation has anointed this kid who quite frankly hasn’t earned it yet.

So much like my approach with Foles (whom I liked) I want to see more improvement. all of his mistakes last year weren’t the fault of a pedestrian receiving crew. He needs to tighten up his mechanics and work on the accuracy. Do I believe he can do it? Absolutely!! But he’s far from this top 5 or top 10 juggernaut that many have made him out to be. He still has a lot of show and prove before he earns that praise from me.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 13, 2017 8:55 am
Reply to  CT

I need to see Sam continue to perform like that on a consistent basis over this season. I don’t know about the truth, the proof has to be in the pudding and that pudding has smelled bad for several years now so one game does not convince me of anything. I’ve given Sam kudos for his performance without diminishing it by stating how bad the Saints defense is, and you better believe they are baaaad. Further, as Vinny has pointed out, other teams QB’s have done just as well against the Saints so let’s pull back the reigns a little..(Whoaa Nelly!!!) and let’s watch Sam continue to either play up to the level he did against the Saints or revert back to Sam being Sam! The “Truth” isn’t always a good thing to see or a pleasant thing to hear.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 13, 2017 12:11 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Sam has to do it in the playoffs.
Matt Ryan and Cam Newton recently dialed back some criticism because of their performance in the playoffs the last 2 years.
Where as Andy Dalton & Carson Palmer are playoff duds.
The young guys: Carr, Prescott, Wentz have to perform in post season.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 13, 2017 5:35 pm

Zero…. Sam would have to actually MAKE the playoffs to perform in them

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
September 16, 2017 1:53 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

EHL what you just stated is exactly where I am with Wentz.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 17, 2017 10:26 am
Reply to  coldbrewski

Coldbrew…Absolutely, the difference is 7 years for a game like that, compared to a second year starter, it’s apples to oranges. Eventually that’s what Carson needs to produce, ultimately, that’s what I expect…but in less than seven years.

mhenski
mhenski
September 13, 2017 12:07 pm

Wow we still talking about Sam bradturd ? Wtf? Why? Guy had his shot here and was a loser. Fuck him. Guys throwing the ball to 1 wr that plays like a faster Antonio brown (diggs) and other guy looks like jordy (thielen).

If we talking minny we should be talking how we probably should’ve took cook. ThatS a bad mother And we have shit at rb

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 14, 2017 8:32 am

Houston Texans at Cincinnati Bengals tonight.
Both offenses got their butts kicked last Sunday. Spotrac Website has salary cap stats and they list Cincinnati OL as the 2nd cheapest & Houston as the 4th cheapest OL. Seattle was cheapest, Eagles are listed as the 4th most expensive with Oakland as the most expensive. You get what you pay for and Houston and Cincinnati went cheap on OL.
I think Cincinnati wins at home 24-13.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 14, 2017 8:34 am

crossing broad has a great article with video about those WR screens and the coaches tape really shows that the play should have worked and also set up other plays….

CT
CT
September 15, 2017 12:55 am

Incredible… Lurie is a racist all of a sudden!!!! LOL!! #fakenews

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 15, 2017 9:06 am
Reply to  CT

Marcus Hayes loves when it rains and actively cuts holes into roofs and bursts water pipes to extend and/or simulate.

mhenski
mhenski
September 15, 2017 12:51 pm

Tooo fkn funny these hypocrites exploiting krappernick. Krappernick sucks as a person and sucks as a football player -fuck him and fuck espn and their failing station for shoving the situation down everyone’s throats.

These idiots always saying how can Blaine ganbert have a job and not him. News flash yaidiots Bum ass Blaine beat out krappernick for a job twice already and one of those times he beat him in a offense tailor made for krap neck (chips). Fuck espn and fuck krap.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
September 16, 2017 2:02 pm
Reply to  mhenski

mhenski c’mon man you’re better than this. personally I couldn’t care less if some hate Kap for his stance that started this bs black balling of him. But sell me this Blaine Gabbert narrative. That bum didn’t beat him out. He was no more deserving of that spot over Kap than 1/2 the starters and almost all the back ups in the league now. If Kap is crap, then what does that say for some of the other qbs behind center and most of those holding clipboards now?

No credible person I know of has ever confused Kap with Brady or Rogers. But this bs narrative that he isn’t in the league because he sucks needs to stop.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 16, 2017 5:58 pm
Reply to  coldbrewski

Not in the league for 2 reasons:
1. Nobody wants a BU that gets attention…. remember the back up is the most popular guy to dum dum fans
2. If he is ur back up you need two different offenses cus he can’t run a conventional offense

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
September 17, 2017 4:32 pm
Reply to  mhenski

1. Gabbert didn’t beat him out. His contract was keeping him on the sideline.
2. The *awful* person gave a mill of his own money + all jersey sales to charity. Yep just awful.
3. He’s a better QB than about half the starters in the league currently. But yeah..it’s ’cause he *sucks* that he’s not playing.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 15, 2017 12:08 pm

Big Red week –
I heard an NFL reporter, announcer or ex-player tv talent yesterday say that NE has no pass rush talent and that was a key reason KC was able to trounce them. Maybe NE’s reign is over if every team can torch them through the air. I’m hoping that is the reason and made KC’s offense look better than they are. Otherwise Smith, Hill, Hunt and Kelce are superstars about to zap the eagles for 30plus points.

mhenski
mhenski
September 15, 2017 2:00 pm

Eagles win.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 15, 2017 3:34 pm
Reply to  mhenski

SInce their bye week last year, the KC Chiefs are on an 11-2 reg season run. They’re a pretty tough team. (in the regular season)

This will be a very, very difficult test….but a good one. I think the Eagles can win, but the odds are long. I am more concerned with just seeing if they can compete against a big team on the road.

I am very confident that the Eagles will win 5 of the next 6 after this game……(beat Giants, Cards, 49ers, Skins and split @LAC or @Car)

and if they can be 6-2 at the halfway mark that would be $$.

That being said, if they lose @LAC then they’ll be in tough to make it to 6-2 as the God-awful Thurs night abominations(@Car) are so stacked against the visiting team

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 15, 2017 5:37 pm

As a certified homer and optimist I ‘see” lots of possibilities for a win. In the end though KC has legit SB aspirations playing at home. Be in it till the end with a chance to win in the last two minutes and no one should complain

mhenski
mhenski
September 15, 2017 7:18 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Offensively the queefs are the type of team eagles d has success against (i.e. Not a vertical passing hame) imo their o line is suspect to boot. Think this game stays close and we have more firepower on offense to win. Wentz and Doug were in enough close ones last year and they better have figured out how to finish

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 15, 2017 5:46 pm

I just saw on tv Andy Reid… 18 years 185 wins… over 10 wins a year? Wow… and idiots here whine… damn. He’s a very good coach and yes he hasn’t won it all but in football, single elimination that stuff happens. 10 wins a year is a fucking body of work.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
September 15, 2017 7:42 pm

I am hoping one word sums this game up for the Birds.

Penetration.

Our D line needs to blow up the Chief’s run game while hitting Smith again and again and again.

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 16, 2017 9:01 pm

This will be an intriguing game ,on so many fronts ..Obviously Big Red as a mentor ,the coach needs assume trickery will be a part of both arsenals.Defensively the squads on both sides are the true focus..I see special teams playing a large part in this outcome..The smart guys in lost wages ,have installed the Chiefs as a 5 1/2 point favorite ..ill be watching red zone efficiencies on both sides of the ball.. The second game on the road may be a blessing ,and I look for a very interesting chess match..in a defensive tussle ..

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 8:06 am

Eagle fans get a dog if your scared are you frigging kidding me? Tyrek Hill is dynamic but he isnt Julio Jones. He is Darren Sproles. He will get his one big play on offense and maybe ST but it will take more than thsat to beat us. Hell I dont think he has even had a 100 yard receiving game in his career. If so not many. Hunt? Fucking Hunt really? We face Elliot and the best oline in football in Dallas and handle them. So who the fuck is KC oline and Hunt? Finally Alex Smith finally had a career passing day and now he is Joe Montana. Should be a good game.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 17, 2017 10:59 am

Arrowhead Stadium is a tough place to play, two road games is a tough road to hoe, however, if the Eagles defense can keep the KC offense in check by pressuring and sacking Alex Smith and stifling their run game, the Eagles have a chance to win. The Eagles offensive line must open holes and protect Wentz better than they did last week to give us a chance. Last but not least, when given the opportunity, Wentz must connect on the deep ball as his inconsistency there is the only weakness in his overall game right now and of course no interceptions.

If this game was at the Linc I’d predict an Eagles win, unfortunately I just think going on the road two weeks in a row, traveling to KC and facing an explosive offense will be to much for the Eagles to overcome this week. As much as it pains me to say it, the Chiefs pull off the win…I hope I’m wrong though

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 17, 2017 11:55 am

The game will be won on the right side of the offensive line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That is where the penalties, sacks and turnovers will dictate the outcome.
Brandon Graham vs Mitchell Schwartz;
Justin Houston vs Lane Johnson.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 17, 2017 12:14 pm

Sam Bradford has been ruled out of today’s game against the Steelers due to a knee injury that he suffered during the game against the Saints. Peculiar, he did not look appear to look hampered or injured during last weeks game. It’s being reported the knee injury occurred on the same knee he suffered two ACL tears on before. I was looking forward to see how Sammy sleeves was going to follow up last weeks performance against a much more stout defense…bummer.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2017 1:23 pm

Excellent start for the birds…. smith should have come down with that ball… however KC has a shitload of firepower

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 1:32 pm

Exactly as advertised d anticipated ..as both teams so far have made plays but stalled (Wentz needs ) a millisecond more time with smith in red zone for 6. A big play down the field is coming as Wentz looks for smith to get behind this defense ..

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 1:45 pm

Time to start asking Stoutland what the fuck is going on. This oline is terrible. Stoutland should be put on notice. I don’t care what he did at Alabama. He has done a horrific job with this oline. They cant run block or pass protect.

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 2:00 pm

Oline sucks

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 2:08 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Dag. Results matter in this tussle ..sometimes a defense deserves a bit of the credit..also lets not discount how familiar both these teams are with one another ..it’s more a chess match than a blocking sled issue IMO

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 2:10 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Desert the oline stinks

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 2:03 pm

Wisnewski should be playing

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 2:08 pm

Eagles defense cant play no better. Outstanding

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2017 2:12 pm

Huge turnover.,. Could determine the outcome

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 2:16 pm

Jim Schwartz deserves a lot of credit ,back to back road games ,has been top 5 ..the O will evolve ,but the Dee is now ,in the present ..next man up ,hasn’t deterred them either

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 2:21 pm

Of course. Wide right. Crazy end to the half

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2017 2:24 pm

Fuck! Well give Pederson credit… his aggressiveness got them the opportunity to tie it… kicker blew it

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 2:27 pm

Our kicker looks scared to death

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 2:49 pm
Reply to  daggolden

We need a sustained drive ,give the Dee a blow and get the lead …andy is still so frustrating ..empty backfield, with a concussive QB ..lest we all remember the only balance big red understands is that the bathroom scale can’t record beyond 3 bills

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 2:54 pm

Just what the dr ordered here. Let’s convert 6

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 2:55 pm

Yes 6

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 2:57 pm

Wentz is the truth. Dumb ass Cleveland

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 2:59 pm

I apologize Dougie P has learned. This is the kind of offense we need. No more 3 yards and a cloud of dust. I was wrong.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2017 3:06 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Until the next time a play call doesn’t work

daggolden
daggolden
September 17, 2017 3:22 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Ok board monitor. Lol Forgot your the smartest guy in the room in your mind.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2017 3:26 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Only in your world is intelligence a bad thing

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2017 3:13 pm

No predictions for the final quarter but regardless of outcome this has been an excellent showing for the birds. Defensively excellent, offensively pretty good. Wentz a stud and learning to utilize his skill players,

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 3:22 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Hac ..let’s not forget back to back road games to open the season

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2017 3:28 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

6 minute drive for a TD…right now

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 3:24 pm

The defense will be tested her with trickery (Andys) first love ..hoping it blows up on them

deserteagle
deserteagle
September 17, 2017 3:30 pm

A few snaps on Chiefs kicks have been very high …any misstep down the stretch by either squad will loom big. I love the conditioning of the O line in this 4th qtr