Teams all over the NFL are shuffling rosters in order to get down to the 75-man limit. The Eagles are no different and they made some moves today that aren’t all that shocking.
They put Victor Abiamiri on reserve/PUP, which means that he won’t be available until Week 7 at the very least. It’s actually a fortunate move for Abiamiri, because the other option was probably the waiver wire.
They also placed LB/DE Ricky Sapp on injured reserve, which will end his season. Teams were concerned about his surgically repaired knee coming out of college and rightfully so. Rotoworld says he’ll need more surgery on the knee, which is terrible news for his NFL career.
The Eagles did claim someone, picking up DE Pannel Egboh from the Houston Texans trash heap. I would have to think that his only hope is for the practice squad.
They did it again…Victor Abiamiri was our answer opposite Trent Cole…. Remember the smoke they blew up our ass of how they love this guy motor and were fortunate he was available when they grabbed him?
Boy
Now, it’s Ricky Sapp (*See Gocong) who everyone said was a risk and fit the same mold as Gocong as a 3-4 pass rusher.
Something is seriously flawed with this FO when it comes to consistency picking between the 2nd and 4th rounds on defense.
Remember Mccoy was the linebacker of the future? He was a bum and a wasted 3rd rounder. Chris Gocong another waste..Victor Abiamiri another waste
Hell, Trent Cole was like a 5th rounder that this team thought was a long shot.
We need some football people in the FO…wonder if Dick Vermeil would be willing to step in for the tight wads in the Front Office?
“TIMES YOURS”
Songs, would football people not make mistakes a bunch with the draft? Do you think that there’s ‘football people’ out there would would have like a 80% or higher success rate at drafting guys in the mid rounds? I don’t. Vic has surely been a big disappointment, but he got injured a bunch – yeah, that doesn’t happen very often in the NFL, nope (sarcasm). And sure there have been others, but you’re just saying – shit some of the draft picks really didn’t work out – must be the FO’s fault – hindsight is 20/20, but that’s the nature of the NFL and the draft – about half of the players don’t turn out that well – the Eagles are no worse than other teams there.
Are the Eagles a football organization or a medical and mental rehabilitation center. How many injured players are they going to bring in and supervise their surgery and how many mental patients who are not sure whether they want to play ball or be social. It is a nice rehab stint. Get your guaranteed money and
sit in the tub or padded room and let us know when your ready.
Listen they have to stop with getting these guy coming injuries cheap. It has worked out at all. The TE Ingram= hurt again. Stacy Andrews: Bum. Marlon Jackson= hurt. Sapp=Hurt. Ikeguono (or how the hell you spell it!) =bum. That just some of the guys the last few years that they got knowing they were hurt and thought they were getting some diamond in the rough. This is proof this doesnt work and they need to stop doing it.
Schill, theres something teams that win Superbowls are doing that we are not. Shelling out money to top round players is a faulty practice..yes teams makes mistakes but fewer mistakes in the early rounds. When you make these kind of errors it causes you to make up the difference by shaving in another area of need. Common sense would tell this organization that if 2 players are there to choose from and one had a major surgery, you minimize your risk by picking the player with a good health history and gamble in the real late rounds. This team amazes me…They’ll haggle with their own player if he get injured playing for the team but you’ll turn around and draft or bring in injured players. Something is seriously flawed with this organization thinking.
This is how teams in the NFL hide players for the following year (by placing them on IR)
once a player is waived/released, anyone can grab..
You will see the same thing with TE C Ingram, and most likely CB/S M Harris..
These are players the Eagles like,but don’t feel they are ready to contribute for 2010, so they get an injury and woolah, you place them on IR to keep them around for another year.. Every team does it..
Sapp was a long-shot to make this club at DE and no chance at OLB, with a year of conditioning and putting on about 15-20 lbs of muscle, he may be able to compete in 2011 as a DE..
We were told Sapp would be a part of the “fast balls” Andy lkes to thro w at opposing offenses. This was Roseman’s rendition of the Giants GM drafting multiple DE’s to keep pressure on the line…Now, it’s a convenient tuck away for a year because we like em but he’s not ready…Give me a break…We heard this same trash with Victor Abiamiri …remember?
i never liked or suppoirted V Abriami being chosen in the 2nd Round which was a reach for DE help in a year that was very weak with DE.. very bad pick (as was T laws from Notre Dame too)
But Sapp taken in the 5th was a low risk, hi reward .I think they were hoping that he would have some LB Skills but he just really doesn;t so he will be relegated to a pass-rushing DE but at 245 lbs, he was not big enough or strong enough… (remember T COle was about 250lbs when he was a rookie and very raw) I am not saying the R Sapp will ever make it into the pro,s but to get him in the
5th and stash him away for a year to get bigger,stronger and hang around the complex and learn what it takes to be a pro is a not a bad move draft wise for a 5th Rd selection and especially since the Eagles had 13 Selections, you can afford to grab 2-3 of they type of players to groom for the future.. (This is how good clubs/teams/Gms keep their teams good..keep some talent in the pipeline)
As I mentioned before, I believe the same thing will happen with TE Ingram and S M Harris who probably would have made the team at back-up safety if it wasn;t the great camp and pre-season by
7th Rd pick Coleman who looks like a very good player to me and especailly getting him in the 7th Rd
Songs, you’re “correctomundo” on this; I completely agree. Big E, I think this is a medical and rehabilitation organization thats wants to keep getting junkyard pieces that never work, and then try to tell us fans that they know what they’re doing like were stupid or something. Ozzman, you’re correct – they really need to stop doing this crap. everyone else in agreement with this nonsense needs to go work for the FO and dust their shoes off for them or something because to actually side with this kind of nonsense (that’s been going on for the past 10 years) that’s been getting us nowhere is rediculous. If Howie Roseman wants to keep his job here, he better distance himself from this kind of crap. They’re starting to make him look like a FO CHEAP BASTARD
Abiamari is way too injury prone and brittle. Remember the Freak (that dominant pass rusher) who ran out of the game limping or holding a body part every other play. Even when Victor was healthy he was another push once then play patty cake with the O lineman. DE Pannel Egboh? I guess they thought his name was unique.
I definitely co-sign that Big E. Kearse was the biggest punk I ever saw play defense. He flat out stole money while he was here! I remember it being so ridiculous we made a drinking game out of it. Everytime he limped off or got up gingerly from the pile you had to drink. Needless to say we were drunk off our asses by the 3rd quarter of most games. But seriously I’m tired of AR thinking he can coach up any bum or turn a player who has had success at one role into something completely different i.e. Gocong. Dude’s ego is off the chain but I’d be cool with it if we had a Lombardi trophy in the case just being honest.
Concrete You have to drink when watching the Eagles, even if it’s only for medicinal purposes.
Songs all teams are hit and miss in the draft you can only be right half the time if you are good. I would think New England would be a “superbowl” team that is doing something different right?
2008 NFL draft
Pick #10 Jerod Mayord – defensive rookie of the year
Pick #62 Terance Wheatly – Bust, only played as a reserve role since rookie year
Pick #78 Shawn James Crable – Bust, IR two years then released
Pick #94 Kevin O’connell – Bust, waived after first year.
This is just the first 3 rounds of arguably one of the best franchise in football and they were 1 out 4. I would say the eagles are doing ok.
This is the same year in the first 3 rounds the eagles took Laws, Desean, and Brian Smith. 2 out of 3
Haha no doubt about that!
The Eagles offense will be challenged in the regular season with strong blitzing against Kolb and hard hits on 165 lb Jackson and Macklin who doesn’t like contact. If Reid does’t ulilize his running game at least half the time, I feel for the players. I didn’t see one effective screen play all preseason and the Eagles at one time were a good screen team. Are Andy and Marty going to be predictible again? Will special teams improve coverage and field position. Who is going to return punts.
what i dont understand is how all our dudes that have played for us yrs on in get a cpl injuries and there done supposedly (d5 36west bdawk sheldon brown lito shepp) but we take others team trash and hurt players
how the hell does this make any sense
and y r u guys always saying something is wrong with me cause id rather keep westbrook then go after some other bum or id rather keep runyan or tra thomas than play with andrews
im wrong because id rather see sheldon than hobbs
i know none of these guys can help this great team with so much depth yea i know
Not so fast Rhfast
Eagles drafting LAws,D-JAx,B Smith I would not say is hitting 2 out of 3
T Laws still has a lot to prove that he belongs in the NFL and for the #42 overall pick would be considered a big disappointment from most NFL Observors.. Call it 1 out 3 for now..
Phillywilly, do you seriously not get that age and wear/tear has an effect on players and they gold, then their body breaks down, and they are unable to play football? Most people understand this. It’s the reason that Jim Brown doesn’t play football anymore. It’s why Hank Aaron isn’t taking BP this afternoon before a night game. Maybe we should get Randall Cunningham to try to play QB for us since he’s had success and Kolb is unproven. No – because they’re too old. Runyan and Thomas are RE(FRICKIN)TIRED – they’re not Brett Farve “….well, maybe I’m done…”” BS… they’re RETIRED. Westbrook should be. He cannot stay healthy enough to play games. You would rather have him on the team, pay him money, and not have him play football because he can’t anymore than have a player that can do it, do it. Perhaps we should sign and start Jim Thorpe? I hear he has exhibited extroidinary athleticism and the ability to execute. Or maybe the phils should pick up Cy Young off waivers to help their bullpen issues. Would you like to date a grandmother or a hot 25 year old? Age happens – for some reason, you seem to not understand that.
u dont understand that b west at this age is better than mallett mike bell and buckley all rolled in 1
considering no oline who better as a 3rd down and back up back
he will pick up blitzers knows the offense and will occasionally make a big play
also continue to mentor shady
how much will shady learn from a career 3rd stringer please
guess weaver is our back up back he aint as bad as bell or buckley my God
if i took a poll of who ud rather see runyan or andrews lol tra or andrews
i mean really its a nor brainer
seriously schill for real i really wanna know r u andy reid ?
i think u r in fact i know u r
Pw – Westbrook was on the Eagles last year. Are you in complete denial (my best guess) or did you not watch the games last year. What did he do as an Eagle last year? WAY LESS than McCoy. WAY LESS than BUCKLEY. If he is too injured to wear a jersey on game day, no he is not going to make a play or pick up a blitz. You don’t understand that!? Really? And Tra and Runyan are RETIRED – for good reasons. The total sum of NFL teams that want either of them to play football for them is 0 – 0. I guess you know better.
ans the ? r u andy?
Westbrook was on a quick spiral down, even look back to 2008 and he was not very effective for most games. The Eagles got 8 years of work in 4 seasons from his body, he made his mark and had a great career,but it’s over and has been for a while…
Here’s a RB to keep an eye on – he’s 4 th string for the Panthers named Josh Vaughn who is in his 2nd year out of the UNiversity of Richmond, He’s 6’0 230 lbs has a quick burst, can block and catch
and won’t make the Panthers Roster for they have D Williams,J Stewart and M Goodson all ahead of him on their depth chart.. Vaughn has seen a lot of action since Stewart and Goodson had some minor injuries earlier in camp.. This kid is a player and would be a real good fit in the Eagles Scheme
This kid will land on someones roster after cut-day and I hope it’s the Eagles
Not to change the subjext..
Is there still a fantasy league for GCobb posters.. I signed up but haven’t heard from Scoprion
Has anyoen heard anything about it’s status and draft,etc,etc… Maybe he doesn’t want me to participate
there is no wear and tear on mike bum , he is just a bum y is that so hard for u 2 understand
mccoy may be a nice back but honestly right now he’s really a back up rb at this stage in his career
with that in mind u need an adequate back up really a starter but for the sake of this pro eagles management message board i will say back up
i know u r andy and have been trying to sell this sb rb bs but career 3rd stringer who cares
we didnt go sign brunnell
get a rb please preferably a starter
PW – I have many times. Yes, I’m Andy Reid. My team is at practice right now, and I have tons of meetings all day, but I send a stunt double to work everyday at the Novacare complex, while I sit at home and post on GCobb.com. You got me, good detective work. All the calls to Roger Goodell, other teams, all the meetings with the Eagles coaching staff, the interview with Dave Spadaro, the coaching of the team, my stunt double does that for me. Yes, I am Andy Reid. ……….. now if I have to answer your question, answer these two – how da hell do you get ‘andy reid’ from my posts? There’s really no connection whatsoever. And 2) How do you think Brian Westbrook did as an Eagle last year? I want your opinion to see just how warped your perception of reality is.
It has always been a problem Schiller where many EAgles fans get too attached to their athletes and don’t want to recognize when their favorite players start to slip.. You can use H douglas, J Trotter,
B Dawkins, S Brown, J Runyam, T Thomas and even D McNabb as prime examples.. These were all great players for the Eagles Franchise and great ambassadors of the City and athe NFL in General,
But FOotball and Time wait for no one, when yuor body starts breaking down, it’s time to warm up the saddle and get someone else ready for the ride, it’s cruel, but that’s they way it is in today’s NFL,
where the margin between excellence and average are are 1/2 step away… Enjoy theses athletes while they are here, for they are compensated very well in the profession that they choose, but let’s not go overboard and think every good player can remain good over a 10-12-14 year career, it’s just not realistic in what has become a young man’s game (for better or worse) …
on another post big e made a fat joke at andy u seemed to have taken it personal like ur andy lol
ur on here when ur in ur office lol
and yes i saw b west last yr did u see eldra buckley lmao
did u see mallett nfl stats
im glad ur counting on mikebell histerical i no sb rb
and pman im sorry i dont get attached to mike bells of the world
he a bum i rather carry the rock please u act like im saying i want hugh douglass to start over trent cole
i picked 1 of the bummiest dudes on the team if bwest can play for san fran he can back up here period
This new DB was listed at 5’101/2″ 180. The eagles boosted him to 5’11” 184. i guess that’s big for a corner. He has one highlite on Youtube and he is being touted as a return man. This is not fantasy football gentlemen. Get ready for the packers.
Phillywill-
Schittler identifies with Reid because he feels he is an out of the box intellect who was/is fat and feels above the average fan in Philadelphia. It’s an ego thing. He discounts the fact that every team in our division has won multiple super bowls.
How bout another roster move. Would love to see the Cards and Birds do a QB swap. Vick for Leinart. Leinart has a better up side and maybe he just needs a change. And lets face it Vick sucks
Big E – first about Calvin – so you think that the way to tell if a football player can effectively return kicks is to check how many youtube videos he has? Ha. The coaches and FO’s around the league don’t use youtube. They deem him as a return man because he did it consistently and often in college. Whether he (makes the team) (and) performs well as a returner in the NFL is yet to be seen. But to say that the kid can’t return kicks because he only has one youtube….really?
Wow, and Bigie fries, all you know about me is some words I’ve posted on this website and you’re casually coining me one of the most brutal and evil murderous dicators of the world. That’s classless and as a jewish person I am officially offended. Grow up. I don’t forget about the SBs won by the other teams, I just think it’s irrelevant right now because it is. I don’t care about stuff that happend last century (or milenium). I really don’t. Appearantly your head is stuck in the 20th century.
tru – sure Vick sucks – but Leinert sucks WAY WAY more.
Looks like interest from the Giants,Bills and Raiders for QB Lienart
Giants have no back-up behind Eli right now, Bills have no NFL QB on their roster,
and Raiders are looking of a capable back-up for Campbell
Schiller You are dumber than Dan Quale. (Shittler) Hitler is spelled with one T. Pay attention to the first five letters. You have accused me of being anti-semitic on more than one occasion. Are you related to Keith Olberman. I couldn’t find any college return stats on this 4.5 burner.
Smuckler
YOUR WORDS
Google the guy. This CB seems to be a good pickup.” check out his Youtube punt return” and the CBS sports (I think it was) scouting report
Joe Mays looked pretty good in Denver’s last preseason game.
I would say the Eagles should grab pick up Shawn Andrews and kick his tires, but the Giants beat them to it. It’s pretty late at this point to bring in a starting O-Linemen veteran or otherwise, so probably the Austin Howard elevation is probably the best move if not considering King Dunlap who’s gotten a bit bigger and has been looking decent thus far.
If EVER there was a year when the Eagles should have drafted an upper echelon O-Linemean…sheesh. I think Maurkice Pouncey is starting for the Steelers at Center at this point. at least that would have been one resolved position whether it was at center or guard.
Big – correct, those were my words. And I’d (write) them again. I don’t see anything wrong with what I said – he looks like a decent enough prospect to stash on the practice squad or contribute on KRs if he somehow makes the team (I doubt it with Lindley, and Patterson rounding out the 5 CBs…). You point it out as if I said ‘there’s tons of videos and this guy is the next great corner” – that’s not what I said.
Smuchler
It’s bizarre that both the Cardinal and Eagles drafted 201 and 202 for this trade of rookies and if they are cut neither team has to pay into the rookie pool. You said check out his return on Youtube. One return and he is not even mentioned as a return man, just a practice squad guy, if that.
Big – you point about the strange draft/trade circumstance – yeah, it is bizzare – what are you saying there? And the rookie pool? I don’t follow you. Most teams cut rookies they draft every year, are you saying this is different? And as for Calvin – he’s purely unkown right now as to practice squad or return man. I just said I like the video, and I did some reading/research on the guy and I’m optimistic – it’s whatever.
IF YOU CUT A ROOKIE YOU HAVE TO PAY INTO A ROOKIE POOL THAT IS USED TO COMPENSATE ROOKIES NOT CUT BASED ON CERTAIN CRITERIA, BUT IF YOU TRADE ROOKIES THE ROOKIES RECEIVED IN TRADE CAN BE CUT WITHOUT THE TEAM PAYING INTO THE ROOKIE POOL.TENDS TO LOOK LIKE A MONEY SAVINGS SCHEME. REDSKINS DID IT AND CIUT THE GUY THE SAME WEEK AND ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION.