Like most signal callers, especially the young ones, Kevin Kolb is one quarterback when he’s got great protection and he’s another quarterback when he’s under pressure.
I thought today was part of the maturation progress for Kolb. He made quite a few good throws to short and intermediate targets, but the downfield throws left quite a bit to be desired.
In the second half with the game on the line and the pass rush pressure increasing, he needed to make a play, but he couldn’t do it.
He rushed throws and misfired in the second half when they couldn’t get anything done.
Kolb had some problems with the deep ball. He badly underthrew Riley Cooper on a flea flicker in the first half, but Cooper came back and caught the ball.
Kolb’s pass seemed to just hang up there like a punt. The defensive back was patting his glove like he was Willie Mays playing centerfield.
On another throw just before halftime, Kolb put up a badly underthrown ball to Jeremy Maclin that would have been a touchdown, but the defender was able to knock it down because it was underthrown.
We could see very clearly that the strength of Kolb’s game is the short to intermediate throws. His accuracy shows up well on those throws. He can make those throws consistently which will allow the Eagles to play a ball possession game with the short passing game.
You see how wide receivers Jason Avant and Riley Cooper flourish in this style was well because of their size.
Concerning the fumble that turned out to be a huge momentum changer. Kolb wouldn’t specify what exactly happened and who was responsible for making the mistake. He said, “It was everybody’s fault and nobody’s fault”.
Center Mike McGlynn stepped forward and said it was his mistake because he blocked the wrong defender.
Then concerning the defense which let them drive off their own goalline. “You’ve got to get off the field. Things we can take out of it and learn from it.”
Kolb was 26 of 48 for 231 yards with one touchdown and two interceptions. They were bad picks which exposed his lack of arm strength. Both of the passes just floated up in the air and gave the defenders plenty of time get there. His quarterback rating for the game was 54.2, which is nothing to write home about.
Kolb could easily have thrown more interceptions. His decision-making left quite a bit to be desired. He’s got to be willing to take a hit or throw the ball away more often, rather than put the ball up for grabs and give the other team a chance to pick it off. This is going to be a challenge throughout his career because he doesn’t have a gun for an arm.
The former Houston Cougar says he was disappointed that they couldn’t get anything going with the game on the line. He regretted the way they lost the momentum in the fourth quarter.
“It’s a great lesson to learn from this if you handle the right way”, Reid said after the game. “……….this will be great lessons we’ll learn from”.
One of the reporters asked a meaningful question of Reid during his news conference. “Who’s your quarterback”, he asked. Reid’s response without hesitation, “It’s Michael”.
When told about the coaches decision, Kolb gave an honest answer.
“Sure I want to play”, Kolb said. “I enjoy being out there and I learn something every time”.
I could see them staying with Kolb as the starter, if they looked at this season as one committed to giving Kolb a chance to get experience. He’s playing well enough for them to win some games with him at the helm. Kolb would likely get better if he were the starter game in and game out, but Reid wants to win right now and that’s why he’s going back to Vick.
I don’t think Kolb is as good as Michael Vick right now, but I see and understand the reasoning regarding staying with him as the starter. If you’re thinking about the future, you can see that he’s got the capabilities of being a quality starting NFL quarterback, as long as the game plan is catered to his strengths.
There are certain things that Vick can do that Kolb will never be able to do. Kolb runs the short passing game well but any passes over forty-yards in the air are a major risk with him.
Can he make the throws late in the season with the bad weather and a good pass rush on him? Will defenses start to creep up as they see his limitations with deep passes?
Do you see a guy there that we can win a Super Bowl championship with? That’s the question the Eagles must ask themselves and it’s also the question which all of us should be asking ourselves.
He definitely struggles and lost his confidence after that fumble, but this also the time when the Coaches got to be smarter aboout play calling and getting back to some basic,safe plays and running game which was working earlier,. The Entire Offense got out of synch with blame to go all around,the real disappointing thing is the Defense failed to show up in the 4th Quarter when the game was still in the balance..This was a total team loss after a solid,manageable and efficient 1st 3 quarters… This is why you have to play a full 60 minutes in the NFL for stranger things can happen
Browns blow out the Saints, Bills had 14 point lead over the Ravens in the 4th and Ravens won in OT
Falcons blew a 20 point lead to the Bengals only to regain and win , Raiders are up 38-0 at half vs the Broncos…It’s a very unpredictable league and it’s anyone’s game,but the team that plays the entire 60 minutes has the best chance to win so hopefully Eagles will have learned this..
Kolb cant bring this team to victory, he’s too weak in the pocket, throws erratic passes and is just too slow. Vick will bring home a championship to philly. This game defined kolb and he didn’t live up to the last games hype. VICK, WE NEED YOU BUDDY. GO EAGLES!!!!!!!!!
If the Defense plays like they did in the 4th Quarter against much more sophisiticated offenses with multiple weapons at WR/TE like they have left on their schedule..I am not sure it makes much of a difference whether QB J Montana is back there.. You have to stop other teams too…
Kenny Britt one the game. Period. Reid/McD should have taken hobbs off of britt and put in hanson. hobbs was atrocious v. Britt.
Good thing Britt didn’t start of the Eagles may never have been in the game
Eagles needed a stop after that fumble on the 3
They could have at least slowed momentum down with a couple of drives even after the fumble but with the way Britt was abusing the secondary they may have made it close but the Titans would still have won
No one made a play. Period. In games like that, someone needs to make a play. All the overrated defensive players were jokes, playcalling was horrendous and Kolb was helpless. No one made a play.
Scorp, but we could have stopped britt, the game was ours anyway…
Paul man….put a sock in it!!! The defense is fine minus one player……..Ellis Hobbs…Period. It wasn’t no secret that the Titans seen a serious mismitch and did everything to isolate Britt with Hobbs.
If anything it showed the youth of our defensive Coordinator…You have a suspect right corner and a rookie safety and refuse to address Britt scheme wise….Again this lost is squarely on Kolb’s shoulders…If he punch in a few touchdowns on those early turnovers and execute in the red zone instead a fumbling the game away, we’re not talking about the defense or Britt play, or Andy’s playcalling…If this was Mcnabb we would be all over him right now so I’m with Andy when he said….”MICHAEL”
This is a reality check for those who thought there was a QB controversy…Who looked better by the way? Kolb or old garbage ass Collins?
If Michael Vick was the starter from the beginning of the season we would be very well talking about an undefeated eaon…barring injury.
We’ll get Djax and Michael Vick back with a fairly healthy team for the long haul and we will be in the Playoff.
Wow! We got stomped and Vince Young didn’t even play.
It,s fairly evident that Kolb has a problem with the long ball. He was fortunate to have only 2 picks.
I was watching the post game show . There were four media hacks comparing Kolb to McNabb McNabb (again). They showed one play on McNabb where he threw a pick (while being sacked), trashed him, and then praised Kolb for how good he looked today. In actuality both threw for about 200 yards and had 2 interceptions. but they never mentioned that McNabb won and Kolb lost. Three out of four of them agreed that Kolb should be the Eagles starting QB.
The Eagles play the Big Boy Teams after the bye. Which quarteback do you think give the Eagles the best chance of winning.
Kolb average 4.8 yards per attempt. Still doctor dump off. And I don’t want to hear anything about Jackson not being there. Good QBs make plays and McNabb played with garbage for longer. And Avant, Maclin, Celek are better than the trash we had here for the majority of Andy’s tenure. If guys aren’t wide open, he’s not hitting them. I will still say it wasn’t totally his fault but he didn’t make a play either. Hanson can’t cover either. He get’s burnt too and Asante can’t play physical WRs. And obviously there is no one else on the roster who could cover a receiver like that. And if someone is on the roster who can than there’s a problem with coaching and making adjustments which is nothing new for our team.
I’ve defended Kolb a lot; primarily, because people were leaving him for dead WAY too early. Today, he did not play very well. His long ball is concerning. However, like Paulman said, this was an ENTIRE team loss. No way can you put all of this on Kolb’s shoulders. How in the hell do you let KENNY BRITT have 225 yards receiving and 3 TDs in just three quarters? Our D has to step up in a major way because as we all know, the schedule only gets tougher. The sky is the limit with this team because of two things: 1) we have a lot of injuries on the team right now and 2) the NFC is about as wide open as it gets.
Can we win a Super Bowl with the particular player? Winning a Super Bowl is supposed to be our mission statement. Yes we look at the game but we’re also supposed to be looking at the big picture. We are looking at his performance, his ability, and the future upside of Kolb to see if he’s the guy we can win a Super Bowl with.
Where did all of the it’s as team loss stuff come from? Let’s talk about Kolb, here.
thank you “G”…we go rid of Mcnabb becase he couldn’t get us a chip right? So, when have we start excusing a particular player when the team lose yet praise the same player a weak earlier in a win?
The queston should be…Can Kolb with time be better than Mcnabb when we went to consecutive NFC championships with less talent? Tha answer is No. We must have a great team top to bottom in order for Kolb to do what D5 did with less talent. with that being said…we really need to see what we can get for him in trade and give Kafka some time next offeseason to become a good number 2.
We can at least be a serious threat with Vick and there’s possibility with a threat at QB we can finally get that elusive ring. the NFC is wide open and I feel good about a healthy, fresh Vick after the bye with defenses slowing down near the end of a season
Songs,
Where was all this Pressure on a 38 year-old QB in the 2nd Half…
I think The Eagles had 3 Sacks (2 were early in 1st half) where’s T Cole when the D needs someone to step up.. T Cole is playing like R Howard of the Phils ..He ends up with good #’s and all, but is nowhere to be found during crunch time or when they need a play…
G, how can you say this wasn’t a team loss? How can you solely point to Kolb for this loss? The defense let Kenny Britt, who isn’t even a top tier receiver, have a monster day and score 3 TDs. Like I said, Kolb didn’t play well, but neither did the defense.
Paulman, I think many agree but like G said, this thread is about Kolb. So here is where we can discuss his ups a downs. When #5 was here so much of the blame was either him or Andy and now people are going out of their way to say it was the entire team’s fault. I’ll say it was the entire’s team fault because that was always my stance when McNabb was the QB. Just like many people ignored the performance of our defense against the Cardinals in the NFC Champ and diminished the lost to a pass McNabb threw behind Baskett or dropped by Curtis, Kolb deserves the same consistent treatment. Even if it’s not fair, that’s how it should be. People will go out of their way to make sure Kolb doesn’t look too bad. I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem with the same hypocrites who were quick to call out McNabb and ignored our overrated defenses’ poor performances.
Is there a chance g was being sarcastic? I sure think so. Can anyone say the o line played well. Or that we wouldn’t have won if it weren’t for britt? Seriously?
scorp …you have said it.
Did you all notice the Kolb accolades last week? But, yet he’s not singled out for keeping the Titans in the game..and folding at the end….
This is what we know…We can not win come from behind games with Kolb…He’s not built for it and don’t have the long arm to make a game changing throw.
I don’t see that much changing. He’s just another guy as far as I’m concerned and we’ll see the difference between just another guy and Michael Vick after the bye…If we can take anything positive from this lost is that now it’s no question about the QB position and Kolb get to reunite him self to his close friend….the clipboard
DJAx and a Fresh Vick for the stretch….I smell playoffs…we also need to put that young corner on the right side …he have better size than Hobbs and can’t be any worse,,,no one can be worse than Hobbs
The problem here is the same. Reid doesn’t know how to make make an adjustment when things go wrong. Neither did McDermott.
Songs….listen, you like Vick. Got it. I think you’re wrong. I think you’ll be changing your tune once teams have some film on Vick. Once he starts playing someone other than the 2 worst teams in the league…..that being said… please stop with the absolutely nonsensical statements like:
“Again this lost is squarely on Kolb’s shoulders” Mike McGlynn said the fumble was his fault. Kolb didn;t call 70% passes with a 9 pt lead. Kolb didn;t fumble the last kick. etc etc
“Can Kolb with time be better than Mcnabb when we went to consecutive NFC championships with less talent? Tha answer is No.” Oh you’re so certain. No. He cannot be better. Absolutely certain. After 5 games Mcnabb was under 50% passing, was 8TDs and 7Ints and most importantly was 2-3. Kolb is 3-2…You know his stats.
“This is what we know…We can not win come from behind games with Kolb” What I know is that Kolb is 0-2 coming from behind this year (Titans/Washington) and Vick is 0-1 coming from behind this year (GB) so settle down Beavis. I have no idea whether either of them “can” do it. I just know that neither of them “has” done it. Including your career .500 saviour Mike Vick.
It’s simple,
Kolb has a lot of improving to do but I believe he is a Starting caliber NFL QB.
Is hew going to win a Chapionship in his 1st year as a Starter, highly unlikely, but I do think as he gets more game experience,he will make better decisions, he definitely needs to work on his arm strength and his sliding around,up,sideways in the pocket as oppossed to just running at the 1st sign of Pressure which is something that Vick has improved on a lot which has helped him elevate his game
Vinnie get your stats straight…the greenbay lost falls on Kolb ..the starter gets the lost…Vick is not 0-1 in come from behind games…a matter of fact te Eagles would have easily won that game without the deer in the headlights…and since you’re commeting …please let us know what Kolb did to lose the game. Can you send those bullet points?
Appreciate it…because if Mcnabb would have dne what Kolb did today you would be all over it. So, tell everyone…How did kolb blow it today?
Songs, quit your bs, this isn’t baseball. Neither qb gets the loss. The team does. There is no vick versus kolb. The mcnabb trade is long irrelevant. Vick is the starter, kolb is the developing backup.
No I would not have trashed McNabb in this game. I was a huge McNabb guy…(till about 2007/8 I think he;s been pretty much done since then). For a game like this, I would have done what I did all day today, and that was trash the terrible coaching display that did nothing to help QB on the road.
And jeez man, how selective is your memory??
If the Greenbay loss falls on Kolb, then the Wsh loss falls on Vick right? So he’s 2-1 then.
“Vick is not 0-1 in come from behind games” He came in to the GB game at the start of the 3rd…down 10 (13-3 was the score) Did they win? No…so he is 0-1 in come from behind games.
Kolb came in to the Wsh game down 14 and did not bring the team back. So 0-1. Today’s 4th Q deficit makes him 0-2 in comeback opportunities.
Again, that’s 0-2 in comeback opportunities for Kolb, 0-1 for Vick. There’s no other way to look at that.
Kolb made several mistakes today. I expected that. On the road against Tenny. A team that owns the NFC. I don’t think he should have been throwing deep into the wind. I thought he left the pocket too early several times. But what was he dong throwing so much anyway? Terrible playcalling.
Listen, I will be the first to eat crow if Vick comes in and rips the league apart. If he leads the Birds to a couple playoff wins etc etc. I do not believe this is going to happen. I think VIck is a terrible QB. I think the only reason he is still in the league is because he runs fast. I do not believe that he has magically ‘transformed” into some amazing QB. (he may have been a superstar, but not a good QB) Nice (not great) performances over Det and Jax are frankly pretty irrelevant when weighed against his career. I hope I’m wrong, but I doubt it. We’ll see in a couple of weeks.
Great points Vinnie. I also like how Songs is now being referred to as Beavis. Tennessee not only has owned the NFC, but specifically the NFC East. While watching the game today, the announcers noted that Tennessee was 11-0 in their last games against the NFC East; today makes it 12-0. Vick will get a shot against a formidable team in 2 weeks against Indy. We all know that the Colts are going to score a lot of points against this defense so we’ll see if Vick can make it happen. I sure hope so.
Vinnie now it’s coming out….you don’t think Vick is a great QB….alright so what the hell are you backing Kolb for?
He’s no where near Vick…So, if you were a real Eagles fan you would want the better player to be on the field..right?
I think I qualified that. I do not think Vick is a good QB. I do not think the Eagles’ will win consistently with him.
Is he the flashier player? Yes. Does he produce mind blowing and exciting plays? Yes. Has he won consistently in the NFL? No.
I would like to see if Kolb will become a very good QB. I think he will, I want to see him given the chance. If I was GM of a team I would select Kolb at QB over Vick. At the start of the season, I was willing to watch him play all year to see what would come of it. Why would I change my position now that Kolb has exceeded my and almost everyone else’s expectations? That would be strange. How would that go….”Wow, this guy is better than we thought he would be…put him back on the bench.”
I watched 6 years of Vick and was not impressed. I guess you were, but I think he is more sizzle then steak. Again, hope I’m wrong. Don’t think I am.
Either you are too young to have seen Vick back in the day, or you are willing to pass his mediocrity off with some blanket “he’s better/different now.” statements. I’m not willing to do that. You are and more power to you, just don’t be surprised when once teams have some new film on Vick that his completion % drops to the 50s and he starts turning the ball over, like he’s done for just about every year of his career.
Vinnie….I know you have watched 6 years of Vick and you’ll have more to see of him…Reid is starting him for the rest of the season. and by the way…If you have watched Vick for 6 sesons and wasn’t impressed then you haven’t been watching football…He took a below average team without good receivers to the NFC title game…remember? And as an incomplete player without practice was better than Kolb will ever be…Kolb will not take a below average team anywhere. Second, I could give a rats ass about the Vick before incarceration because it doesn’t take a whole lot to see that the Vick we seen with the Eagles is leaps and bounds better than the Vick that played in Atlanta, so you can’t go there either. And if he continue to play at this level we’ve seen this year being an accurate passer and getting both his big play weapons in the game breaking out with explosive plays down field as well as big plays with his legs when plays break down…..Will you believe in him then? If not why? That’s way more than you can expect from Kolb…so if Vick impress and you’re still hating it will show you are against your team putting in the best player that gives us the best chance to win. If it’s about wins and losses and Vick is clearly a better player than before he was incarcerated why can’t you rally and support him like you are doing for a lesser talented player? You guys keep mentioning his Atlanta as if Kolb could have got what Vick was able to get out of that lame team. Kolb is what he is…..Ty Detmer with a face job.
I’m not blaming Kevin Kolb for this loss because it was a team loss, just like all of them are. But I’m amazed that you can’t even evaluate him without everybody being so defensive about it. I wrote an article about Kolb not the entire team. He can run the short passing game but his arm has some serious limitations.
Doesnt matter which QB with Reid. Once again the O get stifled and Reid cant make an adjustment. Would of been nice to have Sheldon out there too. Why the clowns think Hobbs would be better than Brown is actually kind of silly. Another ” we are so smart” move from the FO. I love how reid will also go out of his way to get these ” little engines that could” in the game. Hall isnt a NFL player. Just like Reno, Matt Mcoy and Simoneau. He will cost us a game in the near future.
Ozz, all the guy has done is contribute and improve. Did your chrystal ball wake up with hemroids or something? And look at the facts, do some research, hobbs played like absolute crap v. Britt, and yes, coupled with Nate Allen’s first rookie dud of a game, it cost us the game, but Sheldon is by far having a worse season than hobbs. Would you rather the FO try to be stupid all the time? I’ve heard the reno etc… stuff used for a bunch of players…its a pretty shitty comparison. Just a brash judgement and lazy ccomparison. Hall seems to be rounding into a Kevin Faulk role on the pats.
And songs, you continue to make jesus, joe montana, zeus, god, superman, and mr incredible sound like pathetic, quadrapolegic, deaf, blind, and mute bums compared to vick!
You are certainly correct that vick is the better QB right now, and should start over kolb (which we all know is going to happen once he is healed). But to this point all the man has done is beat crappy defenses handily, which is something that kolb has shown he does just as well.
And you know absolutely nothing about kolb’s future. Its pigheaded, arrogant, plain stupid and just absurd to think you know “all that kolb will ever be”
Wassup guys! Yes Vick is coming back!!!
1st of all, I just want to take a minute to laugh at all the Kolb Lovers who are gonna jump back on the Vick bandwagon after we get this ship rolling afer the bye. You guys are a trip! “Give Kevin a chance, Give him a chance!” AWWW SHUT THE **** UP! Lol. I said it from the beginning and I’m going to say it now, KEVIN KOLB IS A BACKUP QUARTERBACK! A GOOD ONE, BUT JUST A BACKUP. You know, each game shows you a little more about a player. This game exposed Kevin’s arm strength and play under pressure. As soon as the defense rushed, he lost his poise in the pocket and took off like usually does. You can’t defend Kevin anymore, Its over, give it up!
No, I dont place sole blame on Kevin for this loss. The defense played horrible, especially giving up 225 yards to ONE PLAYER! But Kevin was the QB. Just like everytime we lost a game with Donovan, regardless if it was the line’s fault, defense’s fault, you guys always blamed Donovan. So Kevin is nobody special. He had a chance to win the game and he couldnt! Period.
So with that said, I look so forward to Michael coming back and getting us to the playoffs. Lets go Eagles!
Shiller –
you are such an A hole. go away. I could care less what you think or your biased review . Same ol problems Same ol coach but you love him. Good for you . BTW you are so smart…i sould just be lucky you acknowledge me. Give me a break.,
Yeah Schiller, you are cool and all…But you are starting to sound like Mancini with your “know-it-all” reviews. SMH. Yo, thats annoying man. Don’t get mad at me LOL, I’m only being honest. People are mad at Me and people are mad at songs because we were right this whole time. Kolb has a baby arm and that was shown yesterday. Any ball thrown over 40 yards was underthrown. As I’ve said, when Kolb made those throws to Desean last week, they only sailed 30 yards in the air! I COULD THROW THAT! Kevin had a couple good games, so what. He’s trash. Look at Ryan Fitzpatrick yesterday. The man threw for 373 and a couple of touchdowns on some Kolb shit. But he is still trash! Trade Kolb’s ass and lets extend Michael Vick’s contract. He will win us a championship!
Um, Ozz, I said absolutely nothing about Reid in that post. I was only speaking about your comments on Hall and the play of sheldon v. that of hobbs this season. Just because I disagree with your comments, it doesn’t mean I love the coach or frankly anything at all about Andy Reid.
G, you said it. Everyone has to come to Kolb’s defense. And go out of the way to do so. Like the dude can’t be criticized. Seriously, WTH is that about? People act like Kolb has to be defended all the time and it’s sickening. For a town that prides itself on being “passionate” and “emotional” while at the same time treating our star athletes like crap at times, we are now going to take it easy on Kolb? Forget that. Dude played a great game last week and he sucked yesterday, period. He is not beyond criticism. And for all the people that always placed blame on a particular QB, stop being a hypocrite and be consistent. In my opinion, the entire team sucked. That’s always been my stance but I am also able to point out when 1 guy in particular played poorly. If we can point out Hobbs we can point out Kolb. Where was all this defense for McNabb? One can’t help but to wonder about the motives.
scorp – sure he can be criticized, and should be. HE IS. He played a bad game v. Tennessee. But a lot of the criticism is irrational, subjective, over the top, and unreasonable. I think it’s the overkill and some blatant BS that causes people to defend him. That’s all.
Schiller, I fully agree. That’s how it was when McNabb was here and that’s how it is now. He received a lot of irrational and over the top criticism that diminished his career down to a QB who can only throw passes in the dirt. That stuff made other defend him as well. So it’s the same thing here. I didn’t expect it to change and not sure why anyone else thought it would. So it’s evident that it can’t/won’t be avoided.
The interesting thing here is that you have a flip flop (which is totally understandable but also hypocritical) in the way fans are treating the players. The McNabb haters, ignored the rest of the teams shortcomings and place majority of the blame on him but now what people to do the opposite for Kolb. While the McNabb supporters, wanted people to spread the blame out and don’t blame him for everything gone bad but now are doing the same to Kolb.
What can I say….. this is Philadelphia.
scorp – the only thing I disagree with (or have a slightly different take on), is that I don’t think it’s so easy to track who the McNabb haters are and aren’t etc…. I don’t know that the trends are so simple to track….
But yeah, otherwise we’re on the same page about it.
It seems to me that this is more about Reid’s maturation process than Kolb’s.
In the last two games and MOST of the first half of this game, Reid did an excellent job of putting Kolb in position to win. While running a combined 52% of the time against the Niners and Falcons, the team enjoyed two wins and Kolb played within his limitations. The opposing defenses were kept off-balance with dives, screens, reverses, short and medium-range passes, and “designated” deep passes.
However, with about two left in the first half against the Titans (and a 9-point lead), Reid decided to throw the ball 77% of the time, running the ball only 8 times.
That’s why the defensive pressure on Kolb picked up. The Titans pinned their ears back and went after him.
I just hope he doesn’t do the same (or worse) to Vick. We should never throw more than 60% of the time. Besides, McCoy has been successful running the ball.
Reid, the passaholic, has suffered yet another relapse. To make matters worse, he had no McNabb, Westbrook or Vick to bail him out.
Reid’s Relapse
Combined Against Niners/Falcons
60 passes, 65 runs (48% passing) = 2-game win streak
Just prior to the 2 minute warning:
19 passes, 15 runs (56% passing) = 9 point lead
Passes Thrown Afterwards:
24 passes, 7 runs (77% passing) = 18 point loss
Total for Game:
48 passes, 24 runs (67% passing) = 18 point loss
What is totallly not subjective or irrational is that Kolb’s arm is a problem. Maturation and experience was never a question for me. It was always the natural God given physical attributes that I questioned. It is evident that every QB needs experience to read defenses etc., but your arm strength is what it is. So if you have a QB like Vick that can make all the throws, and run the offense as well as improvise to make plays, you have to go with the better QB. If Vick wasn’t here I would say that we would need to overhaul our personel to fit Kolb. We would need a big receiver and a strong running game. We would have to be ball control only and play great defense. With Kolb we can’t afford a shoot out because Kolb would have to make consistant throws down the field and yesterday would happen over and over.
Change the QB or overhaul the team for Kolb. What seems more doable?
dam shame poor g has to come in and post comments on his own damn articles
look who cares about kolb
i told u be4 we saw that movie of him vs bend but dont break defenses
i also told u we all know how this movie ends so just enjoy the ride
i used to say no1 can be a fan of kolb he a had a couple solid performances so ican see y some of u r fond of him but to say he didnt have a mjaor role in yetsrdays loss would be ridiculous
the defense forced at least 2 turnover in the 1st half on our side of the field
we didnt cash in period the game could have been over at the half
second why cant yall see the last 2 games for what its worth guys were running around wide tf open all day
he made a cpl great throws in his finest week ever but for the most part the rest were basic
i will give him the comeback route to maclin in which maclin made a diving catch
spectacular throw
but he throws way to many no no no no no dont throw that oh good pass type of throws that will get us killed
and i dont care what lies yall tell if d5 had a 54 qb rating in a game we loss omg he would get buried next day
shouldnt be any different
if colts bury us all we will here is vick this and that qb controverys blah blah blah
CMON MAN
while he may have given u guys a couple of things to root for
i still dont know y ppl r so defensive of kolb
i mean i know y i defended d5
he was our qb for 10 yrs
i mean i like vick i think he should start i think he could be a top qb in the nfl
but i dont feel the need to get defensive he hasnt been our qb for 10 yrs
sometimes our city is very sad
I’m glad G pointed out the fact that some people want to make this a “Team Loss” when in the past this would have been a “McNabb Loss.” I think everyone that’s honest with themselves would say that if Vick or McNabb were starting the Eagles would have won yesterday’s game. Could you say that Kolb is essentially a rookie and has to learn the game by playing…sure you could, but Kolb’s mistakes aren’t learning errors they are physical limitations that he can’t learn through.
I remember McNabb early in his career just taking games over once the game started looking like the win was getting away and you could see a glimmer of that franchise QB quality shining through. Thus far Kolb has shown that he can manage the game and take advantage of teams that look unprepared for the Eagle’s offensive strategy. When things get tough and the don’t work well within the game plan Kolb is a bit limited.
People can say what they want about McNabb, but the dude just wins. I think the Redskins were winless at this point last year with pretty much the same personnel.
Schiller, on this site there are clearly guys who didn’t like McNabb and those are the guys I’m talking about. And there are clearly guys who don’t like Kolb mainly because they still wanted McNabb to be the QB. But on a different level, you can see the crap that they are putting in the papers and on the radio shows where they treating the situation as I stated. Many of the media persons were critical of McNabb and wrote as much negative stuff as they could since the Superbowl and focused on all his flaws and ignoring the team’s flaws while trying to run him out of town. These same people are now doing the polar opposite for Kolb and quickly to point out everything everyone else is doing wrong. And that’s fine, but they should have been doing that all along. I just can’t stand when people are being inconsistent in their evaluation and then want to call themselves objective when they are clearly biased. I know the team has several problems that all don’t begin and end with Kolb and I will definitely point those out but I will also point out when he’s playing well and poorly as well. But in Philadelphia, putting all the problems on 1 guy’s shoulder was the thing to do for past decade. And it’s not fair, but Kolb deserves the same treatment.
Butch, agreed. Kolb is a system QB. If the system isn’t working and/or the team is losing he’s not able to make a play with his legs or his arm. McNabb’s specialty was turning lemons into lemonade. When things didn’t go right, he’d make a play with his legs or throw a 40 yard dart after buying some time. Kolb just isn’t there yet. All the folks want to give him a pass but they would have blamed McNabb for “choking”. Well if Kolb sustains a drive or 2, that stops the Titans from scoring or your tired defense and weak secondary. A defenses best friend is a good offense and no one on that side of the ball helped out the defense. They want to point out how many points the titans scored in the 4th. Well how many did the Eagles score in the 4th? How many field goals did we have instead of touchdowns? And like McNabb, that starts with Kolb. Period.