Dimitri Patterson will take over the starting job at right cornerback in place of Ellis Hobbs. I remember the Eagles putting Patterson and Trevard Lindley out there at the right cornerback spot during training camp.
They knew back then that Hobbs might give them trouble. He can’t run with the faster wide receivers in the league. Hobbs is good on the short to intermediate routes, but when you get downfield, he can’t deal on that level.
Teams are going to attack that side of the defense from now on. I think Patterson is the most talented player with the most experience, so I can see why they made him the starter.
Joselio Hanson can’t play the outside cornerback position. He needs to remain in the slot.
Rookie Trevard Lindley is the most talented of the back up cornerbacks but he’s got no experience.
Michael Vick responded to some questions about the benching of Donovan McNabb.
Speaking on the McNabb benching, what’s going with Redskins coach Mike Shanahan. He doesn’t need to continue giving reasons why he benched Donovan McNabb. He could simply say he did it because he wasn’t play well.
Instead of keeping it simple, he’s starting to sound silly. This afternoon Shanahan said he benched McNabb because of his cardiovascular conditioning. According to Shanahan, McNabb has been battling hamstring problems and he didn’t think he could run the no-huddle offense.
That’s hard to believe when you find out that McNabb led the team in rushing with 45 yards and he was sacked 6 times. If he had a hamstring problem he would have been out of the game by the fourth quarter.
Somebody should tell Shanahan to stop explaining himself.
Eskin is suggesting that he has been unable to master the playcalls and terminology because he is not smart enough, and has a history of struggling with it throughout his tenure with the Birds. Do not yell at me, I am merely repeating what was said on the radio. I did not originate it or suggest it. Eskin hates everybody anyway, I expect no better from him.
So why did we trade Sheldon Brown again?
Because Sheldon is toast and cooked….just like ya BOY McNabb.
Songs, have you payed any attention to sheldon this year? Birdo is right, and there were contract squabbbles on top of that.
It appears that Shanahan said yesterday that 5 was not smart enough to know the plays. Then he changed his mind and today said he was too fat/slow/injured. Real smooooooth there coach.
I stand by my statement, from years ago, that McNabb initally had one of the lowest “Wonderlic Scores” ever recorded coming out of College for some reason.Now all these years later, and a good starting QB in the NFL for 10 years plus, here are stories and comments again that maybe McNabb is just not that bright of a fellow and QB. There were whispers all summer camp long that he was having a difficult time picking up Shanahan’s System and the Redskin Offense, which I stated a few times when the topic came up and the both the Shanahan,s were disappointed and perplexed that he was struglling as much as he was and apparently still is… (maybe Coach AR and his Eagle System did make McNabb the player and QB that he was..)
Or could it have something to do with a no-nonsense coach wanting some intensity?! To McNabb’s defense, the Skins have almost no one to play with. But man, you’d have to ask yourself if you have pissed someone upstairs off big time – you get traded from a team with a young and upcoming bunch of skill guys to the Skins who have little talent, and THEN you get pulled for the Human Turnover Machine… Time to change churches I guess
Think he had a 14 maybe, slightly less than the typical person working in a warehouse. Course Terry Bradshaw was in that range, and did ok.
I believe McNabb’s first Score was in the Single Digits and then he retook it to get a respectable score,He has always appeared to me as a smart,bright person and player.. but we don’t sit in those meetings or see the practices fay in and day out..
I thought it was Daunte Culpepper that had the dead bottom score on the smarts test. I would not be surprised if my recall was faulty on that one. That being said, this whole epside leads to a bucketload of other questions regarding 5’s time in Philadelphia. The wasted time-outs when they could not get a play in/off on time. The issues with hurry up offenses. The failure to become more accurate as his career progressed. There are a million of them, and the funny thing is, we will probably never know if any of it had any affect on the way the team played. Too many questions with tooo many variables involved to solve for succinct answers.
One thing I think we all could agree on…
Coach AR is not one to throw his players under the bus.Love him or hate him, but it’s one of the reasons that players love playing for him, he takes the hits for the comments like “need to do a better job there” and “we need to put players in better positions to make plays” which we all give Coach AR a real hard time about making, but in essence, he is covering and shielding his players from the media and fans alike for he is taking repsonsibility for when his players don’t perform..
Obvisously Coach Shanahan is cut from a different cut of cloth and goes about his comments and leadership in a different way…
To AS
I think you are right about Culpepper having the lowest score and I think Vince Young’s initial test score was pretty low too…
Paul Im sure you have been around people in your life that arent that bright. So yyou have a good idea of what someone who isnt bright sounds like. All these athletes in the world that dont use proper grammer and struggle when the talk. Has McNabb ever in his life seemed like one of those guys? Has McNabb ever come across as non-educated? Every interview I have ever heard from him he was well spoken and very believable. You cant fake that. So give me a damn break with the wonderlic shit. Listen to Emmitt Smith, Pacma Jones, Iverson, the list goes on and on. Does McNabb sound like that? His friggin parents are school teachers, he went to a good high school not some inter city hell hole. Does his parents seem like they are dumb? So why would you think they raised a dummy?
You know what I’m no where in the McNabb lineage, but I’m taking some of these comments personal. Its some real racist comments coming out of some of your mouths. You need to be careful fellas. All these little comparison’s you are using are black players, hmmm I wonder why. Have we got off of football and crossed over into that category now. I’m not going to reply back, or stoop to that ignorant level, but I’m just saying…Could some of this McNabb hate come from some hidden thoughts, makes me wonder. We can’t even have an intelligent debate.
No he most vertainly does not Daggolden which is what is perplexing,
I have always thought and still do, highly of McNabb personally and think he’s a funny,articlulate and a smart fellow who would be succesful in whatever endeavors he chooses to follow.
(He went to Syracuse which is a great school) but maybe his X and O’s are not that strong…
The only knock I’ve ever had about him is that he’s too nice, to easy going and that he never displayed that let’s “kick ass and take no prisoners” type of mentality which I know is not his natural personality.. I wish D McNAbb well for the next 2 weeks will be tough on him professionally and personally, but he’ll overcome it and play well for them down the stretch (still not good enough for the Redksins to make the playoffs) but he will be mocing west to Phoenix./Scottsdale for next season
About the only exposure I get to not very bright people is when I come on here… ha ha (only kidding)
Who’s pulling the race card?
McNabb is dumb when it comes to the game of football and the quarterback position. His strongest asset was his deep ball in which all he had to do was throw it up in the air and let his receiver come underneath it, not hard to do. He sucked at short/medium throws. He was able to shine in the NFL due to his natural athletic ability, now that THAT isn’t what it use to, he can’t use his brain to offset the deteriorating athleticism.
And if you want to say he wasn’t dumb when it came to football, then explain to me how he DIDN’T know a game could end in a tie?
For all anybody knows Don could have a learning disability, a touch of dyslexia. That would not make any difference regarding how smart he is, but it could make a difference in how he processes information, and to a differing degree whether it is spoken or written. CRob, if you think we are racists, have the stones to say so explicitly. Making unfounded oblique references and accusations is really weak.
Maybe all those claims that Reid couldn’t manage the game clock etc in the last minutes of the half or the end of the game were not his fault –something to think about
Paul man …wonderlic my cahonas….What was Heath Shuler’s wonderlic? enough said.
rcp…….we agree. Reid made the right choice…Michael Vick
just like Five said and everyone jumped on him..”When your a African American quarterback, you have to do a little bit extra!”. Look at all you idiots questioning his intelligence, why? Do you question Jay Cutlers intelligence when he throws pick after pick, after pick? Is he benched? How about Farve when he just hands games away? Why is Vince Young pulled every time he struggles in one quarter, for washed AND dried up Kerry Collins only to have to salvage the season to save Jeff Fishers job over and over again? To that End why is Rex Grossman even still in the league??? and Culpepper isnt?? Race card my ass!! The problem is some people have a problem keeping it 100 percent real! Even to question his intelligence over a damn game IS RACIST! period!…When other White Qb’s have bad seasons or COME TO THE END OF THEIR CAREER, is their entire BODY OF WORK questioned due to a lack of intelligence??? Get a life!..Nothing has changed in this country, just pushed behind clothes doors. McNabb was a great quaterback who has come to the end of the line, just like many others. His body is failing him now due to the MANY, MANY times he laid it on the line playing hurt, and CARRYING single handed the Eagles offense!
This just capped off my night of racial frustration after renting Prince of Persia on Redbox…only to see a cast full of White actors portraying Persians and speaking in a old English accents if that is 1% accurate at all. WTF are we still living in 1935? Are we not past the Elizabeth Taylor is Cleopatra nonsense? Oh i forget, Ancient Africans looked like 40 year old flabby white guys with a bald head like the guy in the Mummy….point is..Why is that necessary if this country still doesn’t have a SERIOUS race issue???..lol..then i log onto my favorite blog, and see this 1973 black man is too dumb to play QB garbage. Race Card? where do i get one of those?…psssh…i’d buy one if i thought it would help!
Wilcher you have many valid points but jay cutler gets crushed in the media and honestly are you going to bench cutler for todd collins or Caleb Hanie? have you even heard of those guys before? And lets not write off of Kerry Collins here the guy can win you games and Vince Young can be night and day. I do think I stand alone in the Mcnabb argument that we find so much negative in this man than we do positive. Mcnabb is no longer an eagle why should we care what he does in Washington? Mcnabb is the GREATEST eagles QB EVER no one can debate that and yet I compare Mcnabb to Dan Marino who neither has won a superbowl but Marino in Miami is an Icon ans Mcnabb here is just some bum that throws at our WR’s feet and chokes. It is ashame to me that Rocky will be a better known sports figure to philly than mcnabb will.
Wilcher its just a movie! lol were you also disappointed in seeing groundhog day and not seeing any ground hogs?
Bottom line is that McNabb is a good NFL QB who played at a high level for a long period of time
I don’t think he’s a HOF though, just a step below, His record of 1-5 in 5 NFC Championship Games and the Super Bowl is the determining factor, when he played the biggest games of his and his team’s career, he came up short ..
@ Paul Man….your right that IS the bottom line. The dumb Intelligence nonsense you were talking about is stupid and offensive! Leave that out because you sound like a Nfl scout from 1983. @VR it does matter…tell you what, Im going to make a all black version of the Revolutionary War and cast Denzel Washington as George Washington and act like its facts, and show kids, and tell them that its facts, The point im trying to make isif we have come so far, and “OH, why do they always have to pull the race card”, then why is that even necessary in Hollywood to do that??? Hollywood knows America has a hard time with a minority in a role like that. The movie wont sell.Why? LMAO..thats the point im trying to make. We have not come as far as some people want you to believe. Its subtle things like “you will never win with an “ATHLETIC” QB”…???>>>WTF does that mean? Athletic=Black..but since society cant say black cause its not PC…they substitute Athletic in there..lmao…look im not some easily offended race sensitive nut job.I learned in a almost all white environment my whole life and have probably more friends of other races than black at this point. But i like to keep it ALL THE WAY real, not just act like things don’t exist as a problem.
Halleluya – Hobbs is out! That is the greatest news since Mike Bell was let go. If we are going to go down lets go down with the best players on the field. Now if we can get “NO PUSH PATTERSON” removed from the starting lineup and the DL coach released, it will be time to put the champange bottles on ice.
Paul Mancini by your logic, you could remove Fran Tarkenton 0-3 in superbowls and Jim Kelly 0-4 in superbowls and Dan Fouts 0-0 never made it. Dan Marino 0-1 in the big game. And future HOF Bret “Interception king” Farve.
McNabb was electric and a winner. He belongs in that company.
All of you, white, black are idiots to question McNabb’s intelligence. As one of the posters stated, have you listened to him? Of available role models who would you want? He was a very good quarterback, overrated in my opinion, but he was not and is not dumb.
Wilcher, clue up. Where do you live that you have not seen Jay Cutler getting slaughtered for being an interception machine? It is frequently stated that he has a ten cent head. Farve is practically a joke with his deep flyballs to center field in the last two minutes of playoff games. Daunte Culpepper is not playing in the NFL because his knee had all 3 ligaments blown apart, he is done, finished, career over. He is lucky he is walking, let alone playing pro football. Rex Grossman is hardly playing, there is a reason he is a backup, that is because he blows. Also, so you know, in case you have not figured it out, yet, movies are not REAL. Little clue for you there big fella, dead people do not come back to life, dogs can’t actually talk, Will Smith has good writers, and Mel Gibson is not an actual leader of men, he just plays one in the movies. The reason “Prince of Persia” is straight on DVD is not because it is inaccurate, it is because it sucked. You deserved to lose your money, paying to watch something that dumb.
I do not put McNAbb in the same company as those you list above,
really, there is no comparioson,
Kelly led his team to 4 stright SUper Bowls which is very unlikley ever to happen again
(and he won those AFC Championship games to get there)
Fouts/Marino are some of the most accurate,most yards,most TD’s and some of the highest rated QB’s to have ever played the game, though their respective teams were Defensively Challenged
Tarkenton was one of the first scrambling type of QB’s who made big plays out of nothing..again,his overall playoff record was good and he did lead the Vikings to 3 Super Bowl games (Which means he won NFC Championship games to get there) and twice were favored to win it,but collectively as a team, didn’t play well. Tarkenton won a lot of games on sheer heart,courage and a “never say die
attitude” which I don’t think McNabb is in that same class of a leader.. To each his own..
Anderon Silva(some how i doupt it) Is Cutler being benched? Thats the question. Not killed in the media, or by the fans, because at the end that doesnt matter in the locker room. What matters is what “The Coach” does. Benching a starter is not a small thing. If you read the articles from Washington, the players there are SHOCKED! You can trash Cutler all you want as a fan, but when the coach benches, that means something. Benched, removed from leadership…thats different. I remember McNabb made those comments and they asked then Rookie QB’s Vince Young and Jason Cambell what they thought, they both said “Nah, thats not true”. I bet if you ask them now, they would have a different opinion. AND NO, Movies are not real, buit if YOU HAVENT NOTICED IDIOT, you would not see a black person cast as a white man, it just doesnt make sense!!!! Thats not even a reality thing, its a race problem, and people like you have just accepted it as ok, when in actuallity, IT IS NOT. Your not going to have a Jakie Chan movie based in hong kong, with all white cast as extras…lmao….thats the same thing as what i am saying…these dumb stereotypes still exsist in peoples minds, Black QBS are dumb and cant win, all they can do is run around. PSSSSH!..lmao….
This conversation is useless. McNabb may have scored low on his wonderlic but he wasn’t a professional test taker, he played football and he did it very well. Football is not a very difficult game to understand and i do not think intellignece makes a good QB. it certainly helps but who can determine the difference bewteen “wonderlic intelligence” and thinking on your feet intelligence. Football is base don instincts which come from practice of reacting to various situations. McNabb adjusted well but didnt do well in the books, in my opinion those two do not translate. He was a good QB and his skills are declining, Mike Shannahan made a terrible decision benching him, did he honestly think Rex was going to rally the troops and march down the field? it is not a race issue so lets just stop with it because its stupid, its 2010, maybe this is just me on here but i treat everybody with the respect they deserve regardless of race, nationality or religion and some people are blind on both sides so if this is an argument it will never get solved over a blog about the Philadelphia Eagles so lets just drop it.
so i guess we r trading kolb too because kolb is toast just like ur boy hoying
hey d5 has 3rd worse rating in 2 min drill or last 2 min of half (44 rating )
guess who’s first hahahaahah yep wasnt hard kevin kolb and his dismal 22 rating
look eagles fans this was a mistake trade all the way u just got bailed out by a nother super qb
hey kolby tell me how u like buffalo next yr
Agian, Will, we know you hate Kolb. Remember that he isn’t the starter anymore?
Would everyone have been in favor of trading McNabb if they knew that Vick would be the starter?
Lets go Vick! Lets go Eagles!
no i still wouldnt have wanted him traded
but thats also cause i didnt know the level vick would be playing at
if i knew at this level i wouldnt have been so against it
i was agianst the trade cause it wasnt an upgrade it was a severe downgrade
i was for an open competition because vicks credetials
if we would have got that open competition we’d be 5-2
and i dont hate kolb personally he has done nothing to me
i dont like alex smith jake delhome jermarcus russel josh freeman overated to me i hate derek anderson not a fan of jay cutler kyle orton
do u see where im going i like good players and i dislike below avg players
ie: elton brand jrue holliday spencer hawes ( all on my hate list fuckin bums )
hahah mancini u dont put mcnabb in those brackets huh how many sb’s for fouts how many afc chip games
lol
remember sesame street where they would have like 4 apples and a pear and sig that song 1 of these things just doesnt belong here lol
clearly we know y he dont bleong there with thos guys f outta here c right thru ya
way to callem out bsm
hahaha tarkenton collectively as a team didnt play well
eagles were terriffic in the bowl
d5 just stunk i know lol stfu
I just had to chime in- complaining about the accuracy of having white actors playing Persians- in a moved that is about magic sand that can send people back in time… thats funny stuff
and birdo no1 is pulling the race card
thats an area u dont wanna go to when talkn nfl
maybe nhl lol
The late great Def Coach (JJ) cost the Eagles their Super Bowl and the last NFC Champ game in my opinion, I called him out on the poor schemeing,match-ups and overall game plan, and just being outcoached by the opposition coaches, of course, I got hammered, but that’s the price you pay when you tell like it is…
To PW,
I would take a Fran Tarkenton any day over a D McNabb,
McNabb’s Accuracy and mostly his Lack of Leadership is his weak spots and this is what differentiates him between being a just a Good NFL QB to a Great NFL QB..
I have him placed in the Good category with no shot at being a Great NFL QB at this stage of his carreer, He is, what we thought he was…
This is pointless. I swore I was not getting into another debate about the old qb or racism, they are both fruitless endeavours. Who needs to be a racist anyway, there are far better reasons to hate people than race or religion. There are enough clueless folks running around that can be judged on their stupidity alone.
to mancini
i was not priveleged to see tarkenton play only highlights so im not a person to argue this with u i can only by stats wins sb’s etc
if it makes u feel any better anderson
kolb a bum to me but so is jemracus russell
so is josh freeman so is jason campbell
if they were eagles ud just hear me say it more
theres no bias
hey make a sixers site so u can hear me call jrue holliday a bum he’s jrue kolb
I think QB J Freeman has some real potential and Campbell is a servicable back-up/spot starter QB
The Bucs are putting together a pretty darn good team.. They have young QB/RB/WR’s/DL,
they should be pretty competitive for the near future..
hey PW…Tark was the real deal. He was a tough little guy. He scambled like crazy, threw the ball to Ahmad Rashad. Didn’t win any superbowls either, so I guess he was in the Jim Kelly, Donavan catagory.
Out of all the QBs in NFL history Donovan McNabb is 14th in overall wins.
Out of all the QBs in NFL history Donovan McNabb is 11th in overal winning percentage.
And we already know that he is number one in fewest int percentage, which means his team has a chance to win almost every game.
I’d say that those are hall of fame numbers and he is not done yet.
You can check the stats at wikipedia.
I saw Tarkenton play. and yes Sir Francis as he was called by Cossell was the real deal.