The rest of the season is not only going to be huge for the Eagles as a football team, but it’s going to be extremely important for the futures of Michael Vick, Kevin Kolb and DeSean Jackson. One or two of these guys will be signed to big long-term contracts or one or two of them will either leave via free agency or be traded.
They have to all be fully aware of just how high the stakes are. I’m talking about possible $20 million dollar bonuses or more being on the line.
Vick is the starter right now, but there’s no guarantee he will start the rest of the season. If he doesn’t play well or is sidelined by injury, Kolb will take back over and it could persuade the Eagles not to hitch themselves to him.
The former number one pick in the draft needs to show the Birds that he can perform at or near the level he was playing at earlier in the season, but that’s not enough. He also needs to show them that he can avoid taking killer hits from defenders and stay healthy.
Vick will be a free agent when the season ends, so the front office will have to make a decision about signing him a bit earlier than Kolb, whom they have signed for another season. I’m sure the Eagles wouldn’t want to be negotiating with Vick as a free agent, and coming off a monster season. If Vick is the Eagles guy, the negotiations will start in a month or month and a half.
Kolb won’t get the chance to show what he can do on the field, if Vick stays healthy and plays like he was performing earlier in the campaign. The team’s current backup quarterback will probably be traded if Vick plays well enough to get a long-term contract.
But Kolb can’t assume anything. He has to be ready to take over and lead this team to victory, in case Vick goes down due to injury or because he’s playing poorly.
Everybody knows that the Birds want stability at the quarterback position, but they’re not going to jump the gun. Andy Reid, Howie Roseman and Joe Banner are going to let the smoke clear and see who’s standing.
As for Jackson, I don’t think the Eagles will give him that huge long-term deal if he were to go down again. I don’t know how anxious they are about signing him to the mega-deal right now because he hasn’t proven he can stay healthy.
There’s no question that his explosiveness makes them a much better football team. In addition to being a great big-play receiver, he also runs back punts and is lethal on reverses. Jackson’s mere presence in the lineup creates opportunities for the rest of the Eagles weapons.
Still the question remains. Can he stay healthy?
I could see where Vick and Jackson could either stay here and both sign mega-deals or each leave town after they each went down again with injuries. If Kolb becomes the starter and Jackson goes down again, I could see them saying good-bye to Jackson, because his value wouldn’t be as high since Kolb isn’t as good of a deep thrower.
One or two of these guys will break the bank at the end of the season, but we’re going to have to wait a month or two to see which one or ones it will be.
Vick and Jackson are getting paid no matter what. The Eagles took the PR hit for Vick and now he has showed he can play. The Eagles OLine or injury will be to blame for any relapse, Vick is a box office draw and would put people in the seats and sell Jerseys at Detroit or any of the other perinial losers in the NFL.
Jackson could reunite with McNabb if he does not stay in Philly. Or any other team who has a QB with a strong arm.
Baby Arm? who really cares.
Come on the guy who needs to be shipped out is Kevin Kolb! The guy isn’t good enough to be a starter… He’s like a Charlie Frye or Derek Anderson a solid backup… If Vick plays well the rest of the season you have to offer a valuable long-term contract…. As for D-Jack 2 concusions in two years yes you have to be a bit worried but com’ on, The eagles havn’t drafted a probowl Wr. in God knows when so you have to give him a deal because he is the most explosive weapon in football. He’s made this team better and we all know that!!!! D-JacK is only 22yrs. old and he will develope more as the years come…. I see D-Jack…… being with his size maybe the next Marvin Harrison…. I dont see him being shipped out and if he is it will be a major mistake and some team like Dallas or Washington will pick him up like Eddie Long at a Boy SCOUT meeting!!! LOL
Spot on G,
The Only player missing in all of this is former QB D McNabb…
What becomes of him, does Redskins offer him a extension, does he go Free-Agent Route and
have Vikings/Cardinals bid for his Services.. How about If Coach Childress gets fired in Minnesota
and then they bring in a whole new Coaching staff/system,etc,etc
Yeah, I would think that that even if the eagles didn’t want to go with Vick after the season they would place some kind of tag on him so if he were to sign else where they would get some kind of compensation for his services. If he has a big second half of the season I don’t see him going anywhere. Jackson need to be locked up immediately. You can’t let a guy like him go.
D-Jack is Explosive!! Even my co-workers who are (Redskin and Panther fans) even say “That Darn Guyyyy Deshawwn Jacksiiinn”, “that lillll fella can playy”! “He ruuunnns like the GOT DAMN WIND”! (in a country voice) and I live in Charlotte N.C., Give him the deal he deserves because he’s an all around weapon and who else made the probowl at ST. and as WR. (nobody) the guy made history!!!
Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman are not that stupid!!!! (I hope not) and Deshawn hasn’t been an asshole like other Wr.’s about a new contract… He’s taking it with class!!
Great article, I couldn’t agree more. I hope everyone can stay healthy, thus producing some trade value, but I do have my concerns. I don’t want Vick to be McNabb, but I would like him to put himself in less of a position to get hurt. Heart, competitiveness, stupidity, etc. Whatever you want to call it, vick has to avoid big hits. Additionally, the eagles need to forgo having DJax return punts and stop sending him across the field on his routes.
Kolb is being paid 12.2 mill this season, to be the backup QB…Kolb is due to make 1.3mill next season…(Kolb will be the one out) I think the Eagles were taking their chances with Kolb this season…and they were not impressed! Vick has already received the coaches support, thats why he is starting QB…Vick hasnt been injury prone throughout his career…yes he’s had some bumps and bruises (2003 did miss majority of that year) but other than that season, he’s been a durable QB…
There’s too many pieces you lose if Vick isn’t signed…The production of the running game suffers, playmaking ability behind an inconsistant offensive line, Leadership, the deep balls thrown becomes rare, and the kicker, get rid of DJAX because Kolb scenario…you lose absolutely nothing if Kolb isn’t signed! REALTALK
Desean signed a 4 year contract in 2008, so Birds have him for another year anyway. He might hold out I suppose, but I don’t think he has as much leverage as he did last year after his 2nd concussion….and his numbers are down a bit from last year.
Kolb is also under contract for another year.
As for Vick…I think there are difficulties that have to be overcome….
If they put franchise tag on Vick, they have to pay him 16.5 million and I believe it all counts against the cap. I don’t think Roseman is going to want to do that.
If that’s the case, then perhaps the only option for Vick is to sign him before the season ends…if they let it go to the end there’s going to be a bidding war. So….the qustion, how many games is enough of a sample to decide to shell out the big bucks? Eli got 97 million over 7 years. Now I’m not a Vick fan, but even I think he’s better then the luckiest QB to ever play. Are the birds going to shell out 100 million after watching Vick start 4 games? 5? I have my doubts…
So do the birds have these 3 choices (all unappealing to some degree):
1 – Sign him to 100 million after next 4-6 games (unappealing),
2 – Get bid up by several teams for him at end of season (unappealing).
3 – Put Franchise tag, pay 16.5 for one year all against cap (unappeaing)
To Paul:
Im from VA and the news around is that Mcnabb is another Jason Campbell…. Jake Plummer had horrible games behind shanahan and he was never pulled late in a game….. Mcnabb has been a C average Qb this season, and I think he will no longer be in washington!!! Shanahan like’s guys who are (in shape) but all you heard all season that Mcnabb’s workouts where like “Bootcamp”etc.etc. But we all know Mcnabb doesn’t play well with the 2minute drill! You would think after all these years being a pro Qb you would know how to command a 2minute drill… But this is the same Qb who didnt know that there was such thing as double overtime!! LOL
Well as far as Vic goes he and Brees are the 2 smallest QBs
What happens at the end of the season will depend on him staying healthy
Real Talk Thats real Talk!!!!! Everyone seems to produce more with Vick at center! and its proven!!!! Give this man the contract make Kafka the backup and pick up a Qb in next years draft!!!!
Yea Vick does things to make you say “Damn”, “Just slide Michael”, but you cant never question his heart and love for football!! But Kolb when he gets hit, he’s in the twilight zone… Looking real suspect!!! Trade him next season maybe to the Browns or Buffalo next season!!!
Any pick will do for KOLB!!! LOL
Some of you eager to spend Lurie’s money need to relax. Let the season play out. No decisions will be made until 3-4 more games if Vick continues to impress. Too many unknowns for now
Just plain stupid jroc
@Vinnie
you are having trouble understanding that their minds are already made up…Everyone was willing to give Kolb the franchise tag because of his two starts last year…Why can’t the franchise tag be put on Vick after 4 games? LOL, C’mon! Whats funny to me is that Vick didnt have the oppurtunity to even challenge Kolb for the job in training camp, Vick had no other choice but to produce and take the job when given the oppurtunity. Also, Vick will most likely give the Eagles a discount because they took the risk on him. The only issue of signing Vick in the next month or so, may be Kolb frustrations, will he continue to work and be ready if his named is called? Eagles may be talking to Vick now as we speak, who knows what discussions are being held behind closed doors…
Real
You must be a mind reader and/or know more than G Cobb, Ray Didinger , and common sense which dictates that the season has to play out. Damn, I am getting tired of this stupidity.
I’ve read some articles about the Redskins being highly interested in Vick…The game in which Vick was injured was quoted as “being and audition for Vick”…If Vick lands on the Skins, the division just took on a totally different look…The Cowboys won’t be bad next season, Giants show no signs of becoming a bad team,..and if McNabb goes to Minnesota, then we have to possibly get past two of our former QB’s with Kolb to make it to the SB…LMAO
And Vick is saying all the good things that the coaches love to hear at this moment!!! He wants to be an Eagle and like you said Real Talk “the team who took a chance at him”!
Jake MUTT, We are talking about SB… Not rebuilding…. SB…. Vick gives us the better shot.. Yea the season has to play out we hear you on that!!! But the Eagles are not going to take another shot at a young Qb next season…. You see where this experiment went with Kolb….. And besides Vick has a pretty good resume as a starter… Yea you can bring up facts like “he doesnt play well in the cold”, but you know what I’ll take Vick over 10 Kevin Kolb’s anytime!!! Mcnabb had injuries in his career, sports hernia,broken ribs, broken ankle etc. But the Birdz gave him the contract….
A name like “Jake Dog” you must be a Vick hater! Let it go Jake Mutt
@Jakedog
STFU!!! I never said the season doesn’t have to be played out…I’m simply pointing out that you all wanted to crown Kolb on his TWO starts last season.Why can’t Vick be crowned based on his 4 games played? its only fair! .Also, that you lose more if Vick is not resigned as opposed to Kolb…do you disagree and if so please provide some points!!!.what I’m tired of is your stupid ass comments, when you have really nothing good to add to any discussion…you say some are ready to spend Luries money…How bout this Lurie is spending 12million on a backup QB as we speak…Who is the starting QB for the Eagles? McCoy,DJAX are two key pieces to Eagles offense, and they are not the same players when Vick is absent! Even Maclin as well (4TD’ catches with Vick) 2TD catches with Kolb and both were in the ATL game…The players on this team fit with Vick better than any option at the Eagles have at QB!
Right now it is COMMON SENSE that the Eagles are better this year an in future with Mike Vick rather than Kevin Kolb! I am tired of YOUR stupidity in particular!
LOL! Amen Real Talk Preach on Brother!!!! 12 million on that scum bag kolb!
@Jroc
Jakedog is Kolbs brother/sister or something…so I understand why he is upset about us saying Kolb has to be the one to go…yea, he’s a straddle the fence Eagles fan, he’ll be joining the Vick bandwagon in the next few weeks..
To Jroc757,
I live up in Boone,NC up here in the Mountains and home to Appalachian State University,..
How long you been in Charlotte, I lived in the Huntersville/Cornelius area in the mid-late 90’s… …
Back to football
I think McNabb will end up with Arizona next year instead of the Vikings,
I think the Vikings fire Coach Childress and Def/Coor Leslie Frazier takes over the HC spot
and then I think he turns the team over to Tavaris Jackson or they go out and draft a young QB
kolb 3-3 as a starter
wins kc last yr lol sanfran lol and atl whom u guys overhyped to the max but ok whatver
3 losses saints umm hmm green bay umm hmm tennessee umm hmm
if i can see this do u not think andy and other coaches see this
we play a pressure d kolb got no shot period
now the washington gm he didnt start so he’s exempt from that 1 but he stunk
so out of 7 performances he’s absolutely stunk 4 times
the 3losses he started he accounted for them i know yal will try to get him out of titans lost but a 50 qb rating lol he’s the qb who shoulda got yanked in the 4th qtr
look man opinions is opinions but these r the facts
jakedog u have it backwards
kolb is the 1 who need to show what he can do lol not vick
silly rabbit trix r for kids
Anybody that thinks or even suggests the Eagles would even THINK about getting rid of Jackson is on crack.
To real Talk
Yea jake dog will be on vicks nuts very very soon!!
To Paul:
I’ve been here 6 months now and It’s ok! I’m not too far from Huntersville… Hit I-77 bout a 15 min. drive…. It’s not too bad out here… Alot of sick Carolina fans out her and a bunch of haters lol!
I want to win!!!! And Kolb doesn’t have what it takes… He doesn’t pose a threat on offense and look at the #’s as far as team production when vick is at center…. Vick makes McCoy soooo much better at RB!!!
@BirdoBeamen
Your not lying buddy, the eagles FO should be licking Deshawn’s ass! He is young and only going to develope more into a complete WR…. I just hopes he gains maybe 10-15 more pounds he would be a monster!! maybe 185-190lbs. He only ways maybe 170-175 with pads!…. And a helmet lol!
I know one thing for sure if they let vick go to the open market
game over. Vick will be gone. You will see almost every team in the south going after him. Simply because the south is where is market appeal and value will be the highest. Panthers #1, Jaguars #2 are
the two teams I think will be leading the race in the michael vick sweepstakes in the south. Next will be the Redskins and
vinnie….you are out of your mind…..there’s not a 100 million dollar contract out there for Vick..where in the hell you get those figures? Vick would be happy with a 5 year deal….The eagles can lock him up with a 68 – 70 million dollar deal eay for that duration.
They will do that with about half of that guaranteed
I say 5 year deal 70million 20 gauranteed but a whole bunch of what if’s in that got damn contract!! What if you go back to jail, what if you go hang out with your old buddies and have another “dog fighting bet off”! What if’s all through that damn contract and Vick will be happy to sign… (Hopefully LOL)! Naw real talk he did his time…. I think he is the guy for the eagles and he has proven to me and to all of us….. that he can throw a more accurate pass off his back foot better then kolb with both his feet planted…… The point production speaks for it self!! And people can say he played against bad teams but really bad teams are pretty good now…. Lions, Jags,KC, Hell buffalo is pretty tough…
The question of whether to sign Vick, Jackson long term has not been decided. Their play over the rest of the season will determine it, but a lot of you have already spent the money foolishly. On some level you want to pull for Vick, did his crime, others have done worse and have gotten away with it, paid his dues like a man, and now has the chance to be an elite qb in the NFL. On a lot of levels you have to respect his climb back. Not Jackson, who appears like a punk and although a dangerous playmaker, he is too small and not suited for Reid’s wc offense, short passes in leiu of running the ball. But this commentary about Kolb, like trade him for “anything”, or “he can’t play”‘ etc. Is what I called it: stupidity. He may be your Eagles quarterback for the future
J roc and songs…I’m out of my mind? “where in the hell you get those figures?” Ummmm….I dunno….from all the other contracts QBs are signing….
Its 2010, not 2005.
Eli Manning 7 yr 106 million with 35 million guaranteed
Matt Stafford 6 yrs 72 million 42 million guaranteed
Bradford 6 yrs 78 million with 50 guaranteed
Jeez Matt Cassel signed for 6 yrs 68 million with 28 million guaranteed….You honestly think Vick is going to sign for less than that Jroc??
Vick hits the open market and he’s going to get a 100 million offer. So only way to solve this is to offer him a contract before season ends. I am just questioning whether the Birds are going to shell out 40-50 million guaranteed after a guy plays 6 games.
jroc, can you make one post without dogging or even mentioning Kolb? Get off his jock? Are you from the 757? My guess is you’re from the ghetto of Bad News; perhaps a graduate of Warwick or Hampton.
Jakedog are you kidding me… This guy hasn’t done anything… Koy detmer had good games as an Eagles so did Aj Feeley…. But Kolb cant throw a ball 50yrds. down the field and he’s the guy? The eagles wouldn’t have built this offense with two fast wide outs (Deshawn+Maclin) if there sooo callll! QB of the future cant get them the ball 50 yards down the field…. Besides who is saying AR is going to be the coach next season!!!! Like you said let the season play out!!! Kolb hasn’t showed jack shit!!! Get off the Kolb welfare line and get on the real side of the world and let #7 lead this team to Victory!!
Hey J roc…
Kolb was terrible in the WSH game cause all he did was throw checkdowns to the RBs right? I think you said that before didn’t you?
Btc24! NO Dick Bag!!!!!I’m from Virginia Beach!!! Green Run High School class of 2000!!! Kolb sucks and you know it!!! Warrick or Hampton the nerve of this guy you must be a hick from Suffolk or something!
Vinnietheevictor
But the Eagles gave Kolb 12 million for what? 2 games last season and you grant him 12million!!! Just doesn’t make sense!!! Yea Vick is going to get big money I was just making jokes about the contract issue!!! But thats all Kolb did was check down to Mccoy all game!!! Even Tony Dungy pointed out all the open players other then Mccoy in the post game!!!!
Kolb is in question with his decision making in the field! He lacks confidence!! He react more to Michael Vick’s plays on the field on the sideline then him making the big play for the eagles…… That tells me something!! He’s real good with the clipboard on the sideline!!!
I know I know….All Kolb did was checkdowns to McCoy. I mean come on! That was ridiculous!!
Look at Vicks 7 passes in that same game ! He didn’t checkdown at all!!….oh….wait…..
short to McCoy – no gain
short to McCoy – 7 yrds
incomplete to McCoy
short to Avant – 5 yrds
short to McCoy – went for 31
short to Desean – 6 yrds
incomplete to Celek
Explosive!! Maybe Kolb was throwing short all game ’cause its exactly what he was told to do because the Skins were doing everything to stop the deep ball. YOur boy Vick was doing the same thing….and left down 0-14 too.
BTW is this you?
http://www.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=j+roc&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=_l7UTJjnOYycnAf8opG0BQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=7&ved=0CEAQsAQwBg&biw=1232&bih=805
I know I know….All Kolb did was checkdowns to McCoy. I mean come on! That was ridiculous!!
Look at Vicks 7 passes in that same game ! He didn’t checkdown at all!!….oh….wait…..
short to McCoy – no gain
short to McCoy – 7 yrds
incomplete to McCoy
short to Avant – 5 yrds
short to McCoy – went for 31
short to Desean – 6 yrds
incomplete to Celek
Explosive!! Maybe Kolb was throwing short all game ’cause its exactly what he was told to do because the Skins were doing everything to stop the deep ball. YOur boy Vick was doing the same thing….and left down 0-14 too.
Btc24 The next KKK rally will be held on Martin Luther King Day at 9pm sharp!!! Have your white sheets ready!!! From football to Ghetto talk lol! what a D-Bag!!!!
The redskins had a good scheme!!! You gotta give it too them. The amount of stupid penalties that game in the 1st half was horrible!! The defense played terrible and remember the redskins kept our offense off the field by running the ball!!! They took alot of clock the first half of the Washington game!!
wow btc that was pretty harsh im trying to get what u meant by that
what city r u in btc
Vick had a big run and MaxJean Killed it with the holding penalty!!! The offense was basically off the field most of the 1st half! Shanahan had a scheme and he coached better than AR!!
vinnie vicks were designed except for maybe 1
2 screens 2 slants cmon man
we all watched the game
u aint see desean wide open on corner routes and vick hittn schmitt
kolb come in game troy aikman was ready to puke he’s like well he has wr’s running wide open all over the field i guess he just wants to throw to the backs
troy like i should come out of retirement if this bum can play lmao