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Vick Should Stop Crying About The Hits, Reid Must Be The Bad Guy

When last we heard Eagles quarterback Michael Vick was complaining about not getting the same protection from NFL referees that other quarterbacks get.  He did his Virginia Beach radio show on Monday and was still talking about getting hit, too much.

“Every chance they get I’m getting hit,” he added. “That’s the game. At the same time, it takes a toll on me. I just don’t think it’s fair. I just hope the referees watch that closely and call it when it needs to be called.”

This is a mistake Vick shouldn’t be the one crying about getting hit because it makes he look and sound like a cry baby.  This is Andy Reid’s job.   He’s the one who should be crying about Vick getting hit.
If Vick continues to make noise about getting hit, some of the refs, (a number of which probably already hate his guts because of the dogfighting), will take it out on him and call the game against the Eagles.  Reid should be the guy who makes the noise about the hits.  The quarterback shouldn’t say anything.
As I stated before in a previous article, current Los Angeles Lakers and former Chicago Bulls head coach Phil Jackson is the best at making statements publicly which force the refs to make the right calls at the right time.  He would always do the talking and create an atmosphere which forced the referees to protect his superstars, Michael Jordan, then and now Kobe Bryant.  Referees watch the news and they don’t want to be the bad guys.
At the same time they don’t like to have players calling them out.  Referees don’t treat the coaches the same way because they figure the coach’s job is to speak up for the their players. Reid should tell his quarterback to stop talking about the hits and let him take care of it.  Reid has to be the bad guy.
Vick also made a mistake by saying he doesn’t mind the referees not treating him like a quarterback when he’s running downfield.

“When I’m outside the pocket and I’m running, that’s one thing’, Vick said in the radio interview. “When I’m down the field and running, that’s another. But when I’m in the pocket all rules apply to me like any other quarterback.”

Somebody has to talk to this guy.  Vick is a quarterback whether he’s in the pocket or downfield running with the football and he should be treated like one.

GCOBB

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schiller
schiller
December 8, 2010 8:27 am

(with no disrespect)…

Garry should stop crying about all the talk about the hits

bsmvideos
December 8, 2010 8:56 am

Mr. Cobb I understand your point, but if Andrew does not want to, and he could if he choose to, the somebody should say something.

Who can forget Donovan getting nailed with a late hit in the Carolina championship game? If you just breath on Manning or Brady it’s a flag. Remember the Patriot superbowl? Go back and look at the entire game. Donovan got smacked repeatedly and no flag. We breathed on Brady and it kept one of their TD drives alive. Refs have long considered black quarterbacks who could and would run as runningbacks.

I agree that somebody other than Vick should be pointing it out, and I appreciate the Philly media for bringing it up at Andrew Reids press conference. Had that reporter not asked the question then maybe nobody in the Eagles organization would have publicly said a thing. I know Andrew said he would go thru the proper channels, but ask Kim Kardashian what publicity will do. Has no talent and is a multy millionaire. All based on a great PR campaign and some exceptional assets.

I would not be surprised if the Eagles organization told Vick to speak out. They’ve been making him dance the good boy dance all this year. With so much scutiny on him, I doubt very seriously if he is speaking on his show without the Eagles organization’s permission.

The music is going to change after he gets paid. Not as negative as Hanyesworth, but to quote Samuel L. Jackson in star wars…”this butt kissing partys over”. I took artistic license with that quote.

paulman
paulman
December 8, 2010 9:02 am

I agree with G,
A leader and potential MVP candidate does not need to be commenting about getting hit..
Your an NFL QB, opposing Defenses game plans are to hit you as often as possible within the confines
of the Rules.. Play the game and keep doing you thing, but stop whining & crying about it publicly for it
does nobody any good and play the game…

jroc757
jroc757
December 8, 2010 9:03 am

SO it’s ok for Tom Brady to cry!!!!!!! Look Vick is only speaking his mind because everyone see’s actual naked eye footage of him taking hits that are just plain and simple illegal hits…… It’s just terrible how many the Eagles have currently this year that has just extended drives to help the opposing team!!! It baffles me that if a player speaks his mind on something that its considered crying……. This is considered as a law in the NFL to not illegally hit Qb’s……. So what makes Vick any different…….. The refs have every naked eye on James Harrison’s every move…….. So Carson Palmer this week will get some special attention towards him this sunday!!!!!!! RULES ARE RULES

phillywill
phillywill
December 8, 2010 9:09 am

SIXERS win again
lol jodie meeks like our best player sad very sad

jroc757
jroc757
December 8, 2010 9:10 am

SO your telling me Paulman if a guy before you ran a red light and you just so happen to follow him and you get pulled over……. I’m pretty much sure you’ll be crying about the other car who ran the red light with you as well……. Well the same rules apply on NFL bur they have tape to replay it so the officials can correct there mistakes…….. Whats wrong with him speaking his mind……..

NFL should be NEVER FORGET the LAW………… It it should apply for these officials that you need to treat players the same and stop giving some of these players special attention towards them…..

KTDawk
KTDawk
December 8, 2010 9:20 am

agreed Paulman, i dont think a player complaining publicly is the answer. Play the game the right way and hope the refs are doing their job. We all know the refs get on their high horse with the power they have and in my opinion they also make calls out of spite on certain players. Keep you head down Vick and keep on working.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
December 8, 2010 9:22 am

So wait G, is it ok to look like a crybaby on the field like Manning, Brady or even Schaub when they get hit? In my opinion if he wants to talk about it on the radio or whatever, that’s fine. He’s doesn’t go out there on gameday and whine like a little punk. I’m guessing you would rather him do that? I supposed that’s more acceptable.

I’m with schiller, there’s another crybaby around here.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
December 8, 2010 9:24 am

And you say Reid must be the bad guy. Well if Reid isn’t being the bad guy who’s is going to say something? I guess you want both of them out there barking at the refs all game long. Yeah, they won’t look like crybabies then.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
December 8, 2010 9:26 am

The ravens and steelers “cried” all week long about the penalties and fines and they got to break big ben’s nose without a penalty and spear heath miller with their helmet. I guess the refs were listening.

jroc757
jroc757
December 8, 2010 9:28 am

LOL Scorp………. I guess some people think we live in a 3rd world country or something for we the people can’t speak our minds….. LMAO not let alone a Coach labeled a “BAD GUY”!!! He’s doing what is right……. Right for his player and by the team……… Some guys just dont realize that until it actually happens to them!!!! LMAO People can be so judgemental…….. At times…….. I bet you if they were getting treated unfairly at there job the’ll be the 1st ones complaining LMAO!!!!

jroc757
jroc757
December 8, 2010 9:30 am

Nfl players and coaches do have JOBS……… You want whats best for your organization…… I will fight for my men and speak up to stand for whats right…… So what makes reid and vick any different???

dawkplex1221
dawkplex1221
December 8, 2010 9:33 am

I disagree with this article also. I saw and if anyone else saw When they played the texans, The eagles ran a screen play. Vick clearly had thrown the ball to mccoy already. The lineman came through grabbed vick by the neck, threw him down then threw his hands up like he did nothing. Thats where this is starting. If you were watching the bottom of the tv screen on the replay of the screen to mccoy you saw it. Most people didnt cause the replay was to focus on mccoy. But sometimes looking around the screen to see what else is going on is useful. And it was a clear penalty!!!! My buddie even called me and said “you see that lineman grab vick by the neck”.

jroc757
jroc757
December 8, 2010 9:43 am

Dawplex1221…… I agree…. That hit was very unnecessary…….. The average Qb in the league would have gotten that call with a bow wrapped around it!!!!!

paulman
paulman
December 8, 2010 9:51 am

To Jroc757
I don’t care what Brady,Carson Palmer or the Steelers or Ravens players say..
but I do think by Vick whining Publicly, that he brings himself down and the team down for making excuses that the Ref’s aren’t doing their job or that opposing teams Defenses should take it easy on him since he’s a QB..Eagles don’t need this type of silly distractions and I hope this is not a sign of how Vick will be handling his success with teh media..
Play the game and show your teammates,other teams players,media and fans that you can still excell under any conditions or missed calls by the refs.Play the game and let your actions speak for you would be my advice..

jroc757
jroc757
December 8, 2010 10:21 am

@Paulman……….. Penalties like this have been killing the Birds this season……. It dictates winning and losing…… We almost lost that Colts game on 4th and long and they call a blow to the head penalty of Trent Cole which wasn’t that serious of a hit but it was called………. Vick has taken worse……. And no flags have been thrown…….. Whats right is right Paul……… If Manning was at a press conference and said the same people will commend him on speaking out………. Well it should be the same for any Qb……. This didnt bring alot of attention to the media towards the eagles…… It just letting Goodell and the officials know to look at games closer…….. The Refs can look at an offensive lineman twittle his fingers and call a false start…….. but when a ref is right there looking right at an illegal hit………. Its just ABC and 123…… But they dont call it……

DizzyJHolla
DizzyJHolla
December 8, 2010 10:26 am

Again, this comes down to Michael Vick’s past (dogfighting) and him being a successful black Quarterback in the NFL. These refs are getting their “payback” in which are substituted for their strong negative feelings towards Vick. I feel like Vick can speak his mind if he wants. So what? He has being doing everything right and people STILL find ways to hate on him and speak negative about him. So it doesn’t make a difference, because even if he does keep his mouth shut…people will still find another reason to hate him. Besides, he’s human. Freedom of speech is a big value in this country, and its not like Michael is lying! I hear Brady and Manning complain about late hits, NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING TO THEM! So like I said, it comes down to Mike being black, successful, and a man with a flawed past. People need to learn to leave judgement to God. Most people dont even know their own identity, so how can they determine the kind of person Michael Vick is?

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
December 8, 2010 10:30 am

And don’t use Kobe Bryant or Jordan in this bogus argument. They both whined during the games when they would get roughed up. Don’t make it seem like Kobe Bryant never yells at a ref because he thinks he got fouled. Whether a player does it during the game or not doesn’t mean one way is better and one is not a whiner. So please stop it.

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 10:36 am

honestly…. this is toooo much. This is not racial guys. Yes…. the league protects guys like payton and brady but come on….. Vick is getting hit because he is moving around making things happen. Bottom line is that the eagles put toooo much on their qb’s. Mcnabb used to get killed and they NEVER called it. You can say its a black thing but i disagree… btw.. in case you didnt know…. some of the refs are black.

Have there been a few times that it should have been called?? Yes! but lets not make it sound like they could throw a flag on every play. If they want it to stop heres what you do…

1) Have the oline make it an issue ON THE FIELD. If there are late hits, they should get in the d’s faces and in the refs faces.
2) Have andy cry in public.
3) Call a friggin run play to keep them out of his face.
4) Teach the man to slide.

geeze… enough already.

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 10:36 am

and while were at it….. teach Peters NOT to false start.

jroc757
jroc757
December 8, 2010 10:39 am

POWER TO THE PEOPLE DIZZY!!!!!!! i feel you bro……… Thats all it is……. People expect it to be not 2010 but 1910 LMAO! Freedom of speech is something that has been something of a big question mark now in days……. A guy in NY was fired at his job because he said Merry Christmas at work and he played Christmas Carrols while people were working……. A jewish employee felt offended by it and contacted HR and they got rid of the Supervisor for him doing what is traditional for Americans……… Its just Funny how we as people who have our Amendments to speak on how we feel and get criticized for what is right………

jroc757
jroc757
December 8, 2010 10:43 am

And Stevo I feel you on what your saying…….. Yes AR needs to make adjustments to prevent our RB’s from having clean jersey’s after a game…….. Being more balance can eliminate this whole conversation!!!!

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 10:47 am

“Again, this comes down to Michael Vick’s past (dogfighting) and him being a successful black Quarterback in the NFL”.

expain McNabb then….

come dizzy….. its not a black thing. give me a break. I suppose all the big fines on players for late hits is because they are black too right??

paulman
paulman
December 8, 2010 10:50 am

To JRoc
that penalty on Cole on Manning was definitely touchy, but the rules state if you come in contact with the QB’s helmet, it’s a penalty, so what you need to do as a Defender is not come near the head of a QB which many times is easier said then done, that was a correct cole on T Cole..Now the last couple of weeks, Vick has been slapped,hit in the head, his facemask grabbed, and the Refs have missed them, so what, it’s football and you keep playing..
Nothing worse than when Coaches,players,media and fans start whining about calls made or calls not made by the Rrefs.. Strap your helmet on and get ready for the next play and focus on the task at hand. what’s the sense of worrying about something you have no control over..
Did the ref see it, was his vision blocked, Can the coaches remind the Refs to look at cetain players,etc,etc. Today’s game with the speed,strength and size of these athletes moving at warp speed, the Referee’s could probably call a penalty on almost every play if they wanted to wehther it was for holding,grabbing,tripping,hit to the helmet,etc,etc..Let the players play and just be consistent
with the calls

paulman
paulman
December 8, 2010 10:53 am

Let’s not confuse the NBA which has become like the Soccer of Europe where every athlete complains and whines about any little contact, which is why I cannot watch or support either Sport..

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 10:56 am

“People need to learn to leave judgement to God. Most people dont even know their own identity, so how can they determine the kind of person Michael Vick is”?

Dizzy… i come in peace but i have to say a few things here since you brought up the big man,

there are 2 kinds of “Judgement”
1) Sending one to hell.. the bible says we need to strop doing that.
2) Judging ones actions…. we need to hold eachother accountable to things.

If a person decides to not like, not root for… not support… not forgive Vick for what he has done…. thats their free choice. You cant fault people for that. Thats their call.

Me- i support Vick and am hopeful that he stays out of trouble.
refs-need to ref as accourding to the game… not their likes or dislikes.

but seriously people…. lets drop the black thing. Its getting old. MLK is one of my heros and while his dream is not fully reached i think we take steps backward when we make everything about race. No disrespect dizzy.

carliefb
carliefb
December 8, 2010 10:59 am

I agree VICK shut up your not in the clear yet And yes they do hate his guts all the officials are older and I am sure they are doglovers. He needs to get back focus You have to remember he is not a cold weather quarterback

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 8, 2010 11:00 am

The problem is that not all hits have been in the confine of the rules. There have been face masks not called, hits to Vicks head (getting hit in the head) players coming in after Vick is on the ground hitting him in the head with knees, shoulders, hitting his legs all while he is already rule down. .

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:00 am

The judge who sentenced Michael Vick to 23 months in federal prison in 2007 says he’s proud to see what Vick has accomplished in 2010.

“He’s an example of how the system can work,” U.S. District Court Judge Henry E. Hudson told the Washington Post.

SWEEET!!

DizzyJHolla
DizzyJHolla
December 8, 2010 11:00 am

Stevo shut your mouth! Your point sucks. How do you know this is not racial? Your assuming that. I think its part of it, not all of the problem. Stop being so nieve to possible facts. Seriously. Like I said, I have a lot of white friends and my cousin’s white husband who agree with me about it having to do with Michael being a successful black QB with a flawed past.

DizzyJHolla
DizzyJHolla
December 8, 2010 11:00 am

Forreal JRoc! People hate the truth! They hate it!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 8, 2010 11:01 am

, what the *bleep* are you talking about he’s not in the clear? you need to shut the hell up! playing football has nothing to do with his past, the refs are supposed to be professionals just like anyone else if they can not be then they should not be refs!

Vick’s style of play shows you he aint afraid. One thing you can’t call the man is a cry baby…Everything he’s been through and only blaming hisself, the hits he takes and gets back up. You rarely see him looking for a penalty or yelling at the refs during the game. Someone needs to speak up, whether its Reid or Vick, its needs to be put on notice

DizzyJHolla
DizzyJHolla
December 8, 2010 11:01 am

And just because the US District Court Judge said that does not mean that is how he really feels. What do you expect him to say? “I want Michael to Fail”? C’mon man! Shut it up!

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:02 am

Real talk- I would agree BUT… he goes both ways. A few weeks back we got lucky.. we hit a player in the head( i cant remember who but for the record.. i think he was white) they didnt call it and we got the ball back because it wasnt called. Was it shELI??

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:02 am

LOL “he goes both ways”. ROLF!!!! IT goes both ways. sorry!!

DizzyJHolla
DizzyJHolla
December 8, 2010 11:03 am

If Vick was white….First of all, this dogfghting talk would not be a constant issue everyday. And he would get the same treatment as Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Because I remember vividly back when Steve Young was playing, he ran a lot, but he also got the calls when defenders hit him late. So yes, I HATE TO SAY IT, but race does have something to do with it!

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:06 am

Dizzy. so you found a white guy who says its racial?? ugh… give me a break.

As far as being nieve to “Possible facts”.. thats the biggest oxymoron ive ever heard. What exactly is a “possible fact”? is it fact?? are you saying its a fact? or arent you?? i would say that its your OPINION and i gave you mine. In MY OPINION aka “possible fact”… i think the race thing is getting old and in my “POSSIBLE FACT” it makes you look silly.

DizzyJHolla
DizzyJHolla
December 8, 2010 11:06 am

Stevo, No, we hit Austin Collie in the head AND THEY DID CALL IT! AND WE WERE PENALIZED!!!

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:07 am

ok dizzy…. if a white guy was arrested as many times for doing coke as Mike Irvin… he would never get a job again/ounds bogus right???

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 8, 2010 11:07 am

I dont give a *bleep* if he was white green yellow purple or clear! we hit Manning in the head and it wasn’t called, we hit Cutler with a love tap (I think this is who you’re talking about) but I’m sure he wasn’t hit by other defenders with knees and shoulders to the helmet and hits to the legs. These hits take place after Vick scrambles and is ruled down. No other QB scrambles as much as him, many dont scramble at all…in this scenario it does not go both ways

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 8, 2010 11:08 am

meant was called

DizzyJHolla
DizzyJHolla
December 8, 2010 11:08 am

Listen Stevo, unless you are a racist person against Vick, DO NOT TAKE OFFENSE TO ME SPEAKING MY VIEWS ON RACISM SURROUNDING MIKE VICK. Only a person with such prejudice should be offended by what I said.

By the way, yes, over 15 white people I know think racism plays its part with Vick’s unfair treatment by the Refs, the media, and some people in general. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:11 am

no dizzy… we hit a qb in the head and it wasnt called. it happens all the time. White guys, black guys bla bla bla. Who cares??? Its like the Bible…. it says what you want it to say….. you see what you want to see when it comes to this. It happens everywhere and the refs ARE INCONSISTANT but its not a race thing.

DizzyJHolla
DizzyJHolla
December 8, 2010 11:11 am

The white guy surprisingly would probably be able to get a job whether he did Coke or not. But I guess you have to be an African-American to realize that, like myself. Thats just how the world is. I think the world is making improvement, but we are still a flawed country.

And Stevo, why so surprised that I know white guys who find Vick’s criticism racist? C’mon, be open to reality other than just what you know in your world. Because its in my world and I see stereotyping and prejudice everyday.

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:14 am

Real- I may be wrong about some of the hits but saying it a race thing is bogus.
As far as vick in the media…. have i missed something?? Its all been positive…. SI cover… nightly interviews with vick in a sweater vest…. madden rating of like 93… cheezy music in the backround, steve young drooling over him.

The man has been givin more than 1 second chance and he is like the NFL darling right now.

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:16 am

Dizzy…. i see it all the time too but i dont agree here. Painting me out to be nieve is crap. You dont know who i am.. you dont know my color… you dont know what ive seen. Trust me…. ive seen alot. Ive lived alot… i know alot. I never said i was “surprised” about anything. stick with the facts… dont argue “possible facts”.

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:20 am

Dizzy, my point about Vick, 88, L taylor is this….. These are people who have made mistake after mistake and we welcome them back because they wow us. I think we’ve come along way in sports in regards to race and we still have more to go. But i dont think it exists here. I will say this….. Eagles qb’s get knocked around and we dont always get the calls. This is true of Dmac, garcia and now vick. I think the refs need to look at it…. they need to know they mess this up. But it has nothing to do with dog fighting…. where he grew up or what the shade of his skin is.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
December 8, 2010 11:23 am

Stevo, I don’t know what Bible you are reading but it aint the holy bible. Judging is judging. Period. Condemning is saying someone is going to hell. But criticizing a person or their actions is judging. Let me break it down for you with some scriptures.

The LORD doesn’t make decisions the way you do! People judge by outward appearance, but the LORD looks at a person’s thoughts and intentions.

1 Samuel 16:7

“Stop judging others, and you will not be judged. For others will treat you as you treat them. Whatever measure you use in judging others, it will be used to measure how you are judged. And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying, `Friend, let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log from your own eye, then perhaps you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye.”

Matthew 7:1-5

Don’t speak evil against each other, my dear brothers and sisters. If you criticize each other and condemn each other, then you are criticizing and condemning God’s law. But you are not a judge who can decide whether the law is right or wrong. Your job is to obey it. God alone, who made the law, can rightly judge among us. He alone has the power to save or to destroy. So what right do you have to condemn your neighbor?

James 4:11-12

Whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free. For there will be no mercy for you if you have not been merciful to others. But if you have been merciful, then God’s mercy toward you will win out over his judgment against you.

James 2:12-13

God holds people accountable because man is not qualified to judge another man’s intentions and heart. For David said to God “it is you and you only that I have sinned against”. Not man, God. So when people sit here and criticize a person’s actions they are in fact judging. You don’t have to condemn someone to hell to judge them.

Stevo
Stevo
December 8, 2010 11:24 am

For the record….. Im glad vick is doing well and i support him.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
December 8, 2010 11:25 am

I understand what you were saying but the scriptures instructs us not to even criticize each other much less condemning and judging each other.