Despite his weaknesses, Andy Reid is a great NFL football coach. I know many of you will start talking about him not winning a Super Bowl, but I think you can be a great coach and not win it all.
I believe Reid’s also a great developer of quarterbacks as we’ve seen with Donovan McNabb, Michael Vick, Brett Favre and a bevy of others he’s worked with. But I don’t like the way it has seemed that Reid let’s a quarterback get to the point where he’s not coached and reprimanded like the other players.
Favre seemed to be above coaching for many years in Green Bay. McNabb seemed to have achieved that status with Reid during his recent years here in Philadelphia. I can understand not making a habit of dressing down your quarterback in front of the team, but a player can’t ever get to the point where there aren’t times when he should chewed out in front of the team.
I am of the belief that every player has to be coached. Every player needs to pushed and be given boundaries and rules. Favre could have been a better player if somebody had chewed his butt out when he threw bad interceptions. Mike Holmgren would do it, but all the other coaches were too nice to him.
Favre would throw ridiculous interceptions in Green Bay but nobody would say anything to him. In fairness to Reid, he wasn’t there for most of those years.
Still I think Reid could have been better about demanding that McNabb do certain things to improve his game. I thought he should have been pushed more. You never heard of a player talking about Reid chastising McNabb.
It seems that maybe Reid has realized his mistake and made it a point of not making the same mistake with Vick, that he made with Favre and McNabb. Philly.com’s Les Bowen reported Vick describing an episode when Reid reprimanded him in front of the team.
“There was a reason he got on me and knew something I wasn’t doing right,” Vick said. “But he called me out on it and everybody expected me to respond in a totally different way. It’s something I think should happen to all players.
“No player should not be able to be chastised when they’re in the wrong. I think you learn from it, you respect the coach, and you don’t let it happen again. That’s what I believe in.”
This is good. Reid shouldn’t make a habit out of it, but when Vick does something that’s worthy of a serious reprimand, then Reid should show the rest of the guys that Vick isn’t above being coached. I think it’s healthy for a football team.
I saw the Lombardi documentary on HBO and Bart Starr asked Vince Lombardi not to chew him out in front of the team and Lombardi concurred and it worked for them, but players are different nowadays. If you treat a player like that now, the other players will feel it’s not fair and it will create a distance between that player and his teammates.
Again I believe every player should be pushed and given boundaries.
That’s certainly growth for Reid.
Good point G,
I even heard that Coach AA was calling out WR/RB Chad Hall this week for being so small & slow…
We’ll see how that works this week vs the Vikings.. Go Eagles..
What a refreshing response from a player. Vick doesn’t seem to need to be coddled like a lot of other players in the league.
Spend 18 months in Levenworth, and I belive your coddling tendancies will disappear in a hurry…
5 was to sensitive
plus they came in together
5 and andy were like rooks together and they grew together so andy was less hesitant about doing it
but now andy’s like i been here 12 13 yrs its my team
Paulman’s Rankings of Coach AR’s Biggest Call-Outs in recent memory..
#1) Pat Delasandro – From “Pats Steaks” after running out of Onions
#2) Chicky Wings – From “Chicky & Petes” after running out of Napkins
#3) Tom Heckert – Former GM who persuaded AR to Draft WR Freddie MItchell over Aquon Boldin
#4) Joe Banner – For not extending S Brian Dawkins contract before he became a Free-Agent
#5) McNabb’s Mom – For losing the “Chunky Soup” endorsement that he thoguht was in the bag
#6) Drew Rosenhaus – just for being Drew Rosenhaus and costing the Eagles a couple of good chances to win the Super Bowl if TO remained
I am sure there are a few more AR callouts that I have missed if you guys can think of some..
It’s seems that Reid had that same type of reluctance with his sons.
Hey Paul, hold on I will be back in an hour I have to go to the hospital, becasue you making me LMAO. Now I got to go and get it sewn back on.
@Drummer, intersting point. You think that might really have been the case with his kids?
@PW, I was thinking the same thing about them coming in together.
I never make comments here, but PW – good point. Paulman – you are just too entertaining! LOL
I see that Jorrick Calvin got placed on IR and probably means more of Chad Hall in kick returning. Sheesh.
No more calling Vick out Reid until he signs a long term deal. Once he signs the deal you can do what you want. lol
Scorp, I was starting to think I was the only one who is wondering why Chad Hall is even on this team. He’s like the white Reno Mahe. Are the Eagles telling us that there is no one out there who can make more of an impact than Chad Freaking Hall? Yeah, he’s a great story, coming from the Air Force, overachiever, hard worker, blah blah effing blah. He hasn’t done a damn thing that justifies him getting on the field in the red zone and actually getting the ball inside the 5 like he has a few times this season. If Reid wanted a little white guy on the team, why didn’t he just keep Danny Amendola, whos is 10 times the player Hall is? I don’t understand the whole Chad Hall thing at all.
Hall has that attitude that Reid wants on the field (my guess), rugged, stern, ride or die attitude. There is something that other teams see on film becasue teams take note when the guy is on the field. Hey don’t blast me, I have no answers there but teams have a tendency to delay a second or two, or even look at the on filed shot callers for guidence when the kid is on the field. Can’t explain it won’t even try, but Reid and opposing defensive cords know something. Frankly if the unfonded hype of Hall’s potential gives us an edge well hey there you go.
Mono, that sounds good in theory but just because he’s on the team doesn’t necessarily mean he’s any good. Of course they probably “see” something in him but they also touted how Lorenzo Booker could be like Brian Westbrook and have garbage on the team like Chris Gocong, Omar Gaither, Reggie Brown, Greg Lewis etc. So Andy does make good personnel decision and he also makes bad ones just like every other coach. So I’m not going to act like Chad Hall must be good because he’s on out team. Every team has their share of duds. My problem with Andy and Chad Hall is that he gives him the ball on the 3 yard line to run it in there. And he’s too small for that. Wasting downs trying to get this guy a TD like he lost a bet. When you have guys like Vick and McCoy stop trying to outsmart everyone with Reno Mahe 2.0.
Scorp, I concede your point, in fact it makes sense and is correct. They touted booker to us and like you said nothing there. Not sure where I could disagree with you on anything you said. Hall has potential though, not the typical throw away player, just need to use him right I believe, clearly short yard game is not the answer, but he does have woodhead potential, certainly has the credentials to play that role.
If Woodhead was on this team we would say the same thing becasue he would be playing behind McCoy, schimdt and Harrison, and waiting on spare receptions from our explosion WR corp, and would seem to us to be a waist on the roster. Can anyone here honestly say they so Woodheads potential coming, noop just Patriots coaching staff.
I remeber early in preseason a lot of you guys liked him but when he didn’t stud it up he lost favor, fair enough, maybe Reid will use him correctly.
Okay fellas that was my best shot for Hall, you guys know how i role i will defend any hard working player once, then he is on his owe. Hall I stood up for you baby don’t let me down cause these guys are going to kill me royal if you stink it up.
Finally Paulydak good points also, I think I might suck as a defense attorney, Uh You honor my client Mr. Hall is freaking guilty.
Mono, good stuff. I really wouldn’t mind if they gave Hall some touches on short passes and see what he can do in space but Andy be killing me the goal line stuff.
Yeah Mono that was a poor defense LOL.