It’s a fact that the Philadelphia Eagles haven’t won a Super Bowl title, but they have been amongst the very best front offices in the NFL over the past decade. Team President Joe Banner, head coach Andy Reid and the rest of the Eagles front office have been on the cutting edge for quite a while when it comes to signing emerging stars early and jettisoning veteran players who were starting to head south.
I think the Birds front office may get the chance to set themselves apart during this time of uncertainty with there being possibly over 500 free agent players on the open market. Banner pointed this out to Les Bowen of Philly.com yesterday.
“On the other hand, I think we’ll be more prepared” than other teams, Banner said. “There’s opportunities in all challenges, so whether that’s personnel opportunities, because there’s a shorter window, so maybe a team that has better preparation in terms of evaluating the players, maybe a team that has multiple people capable of negotiating difficult contracts at the same time, when most teams only have one, maybe the fact that we will have more flexibility probably than most teams from a cap perspective (will be a plus) – so we’re trying to look at it as an opportunity.”
“……”The harder part is, if you go back to the old system [of 4 years to free agency] and there’s 500 new free agents, there’s no doubt there are going to be some value opportunities. There just aren’t that many teams with that much cap room, with that many needs, to absorb that many players at once.”
“Value opportunities” are the key words. The Birds will be able to target players whom they know they could sign if they put pressure on the player’s previous team by making a strong offer that the other team can’t match. I look for them to be aggressive if things fall their way and the CBA gets worked out before the draft.
I expect them to make a run at free agents who play the cornerback position and on the offensive line, I thought Banner signaled the search for offensive linemen when he answered Bowen’s question about their feelings about signing Michael Vick to a long term deal..
“That’s an ‘Andy’ question, but obviously, we wouldn’t be sitting here and putting a franchise tag on him if he weren’t somebody we were incredibly excited about from a talent perspective,” Banner said. “At the same time that people are learning what to do defensively, we are learning more ideas about how to use him offensively. There are other aspects of the unit that he doesn’t control that will be areas we’ll try to get stronger around him.”
The sounds like improvement of the offensive line to me. There aren’t a bevy of quality offensive linemen on the market this off season, at least not right now.
I could see them targeting 26 year old New Orleans Saints Pro Bowl level guard Carl Nicks who would be a tremendous upgrade over guards Max Jeans-Gilles and Nick Cole, but I don’t know if they’re willing to spend at that level at the guard position. The Birds tend to be willing to spend at the offensive tackle position but not at guard.
Marshal Yanda who is a good 26-year-old offensive tackle for the Ravens could be a target. He allowed only four sacks this season and has the ability to play both the guard and tackle position.
After playing that Interview over a coupld of times,
Banner and Roseman have no urgency in my opinion to go out and spend big $$
on Top-Level Free Agents (if and when it occurs)
He reiterated that the teams that were in this Years Super Bowl build through
the draft and develope their young players by Coaching them up..
Banner talked about a have quality depth across the board but not acquiring and defensive play-makers who can possibly take the team to the next level..
My take is that Banner believes that he just paid Top $$$ for some the best Coaches at their respective positions, and I believe that he thinks that Washburn and Mudd will coach these players up to a higher level and therefore the Eagles should be a better team and win in the playoffs without having to add
and top talent .. I think this is the wrong apporach..This Defense needs
at least 2 more Playmakers (at DL/LB/CB or Safety)
I see 3rd Tier Playerss who are coming off Rookie deals who are prmarily back-up and special teams type of players.. So anyone who was day-dreaming about players like Asmogoah, Champ Bailey, Cromartie, Landry,Weddle, Greenaway, Edwards, Jenkins, can put the tobacco back in the can.. It’s not going to happen…
I remember when Nicks was coming out of Nebraska and I thought he would be a good fit to replace Andrews. If we target him and bring him in it would signal that we are going for the chip because dude is serious and he has a meaness about him that we need. Either way the recognition that we need “players” is uplifting.
don’t forget formerly good players coming off of injury! we’re always picking those guys up… speaking of which, I want to sign Nick Barnett if GB lets him go. Put him in the middle and move Stew over to strong side.
Paul, are you serious? “After playing that Interview over a coupld of times,
Banner and Roseman have no urgency in my opinion to go out and spend big $$
on Top-Level Free Agents (if and when it occurs)”
First, the whole concept that any fan can or cannot sense ‘urgency’ from an NFL team, in FEBRUARY is ridiculous. The superbowl just happened, and the world urgent is irrelevant to the NFL alltogether right now! And in THIS offseason?
Your words piant the picture perfectly ‘if and when it occurs’ – how can urgency be ‘sensed’ in an ‘if and when’ situation.
Paul, some of your worst words ever.
seriously folks…. we know NOTHING.
Andy has lost all power – So why does he get to pick is D Cord and put in place everyone he wants.
Kolb is Andys guys and Vick is luries guy- Did i miss something?? last year we heard that Kolb was banners guy and that Dmac was Andys guy and that proved that Andy was losing power. Now Kolb is andys guy? amazing.
As far as draft picks and FA’s go. we know NOTHING. In fact…. id argue that whatever the eagles come out and say is almost ALWAYS the opposite of what they are really thinking.
THEY DONT CARE ABOUT REPORTERS!!! they arent going to tell us anything. Not only do they 2 guys to work on the cap…. they have 10 guys to write what shall be said by those 2 guys in front of the camera.
Im not a FO guy…. in fact… they drive me nuts but im tired of them being called cheap. It doesnt fit!!!!! Kerse, T.O. Peters, St. Andrews , Asam,…. all of these guys we spent money on. Some were good, some were not but that the talent they brought in. None of them (andrews a little) were cheap. But the birds did it. The line does not fit.
SO what we’ve learned is……
*If andy reid doesnt do a good job…. he MIGHT be let go in a few years.
* The eagles MIGHT make a run at Aso…or MAYBE not.
* The eagles MIGHT go cheap in FA…. they MIGHT not.
ok…. i feel smarter.
I think Mudd and the new coaching staff will relay what the strengths and weaknesses are.
In my opinion corner, o-line should be experienced players.
I think Roseman is a pretty good evaluator of talent so we will see.
I think the Eagles need to trade Kolb for a 1st & 3rd. Wait and see what thecombine tells us and move up if necessary. Kolb to Carolina could happen…… I see urgency and if we don’t win i see a coaching change coming.
For the record;
It drives me NUTS when they try and outsmart everyone. Players like Marlin Jackson, ST Andrews, Jack IG, and all the other injury players that they bring in…. it drives me nuts that they think they are getting a steal. I also think they SUCK at drafting on the D side of the ball. I cant stand how they never run to help out their QB and their D. I cant stand how they let a guy like Rory coach anyone about anything for years. All of that makes me sick!!!
schiller/paul – i get the sides you are coming from, but i relate more with paulman here. i actually think it was short and sweet with substance. schiller, you just saw it from the opposite perspective.
we are trying a subtle alternative method to get to the next level
we have seen the constant hurdles we cannot overcome
were always close but no cigar
the coach and the front office have this one vision
when you go through the type of coaching changes we have the last 2 years
thats the front office conveying and showing respect and love to the coach
trusting one another, they believe in andy and want to make things work with him
these people have closely bonded
starting something great here after years of misery and failure
they created an opportunity and are so good at what they do because we are consistently contenders, the window is always open
(the only people that dont think were contenders year in and year out, are the self-over-analytical eagle critics)
as great as andy reid is, and he is great, he just needs to get over the hump
he is optimistic, master of studying the game, uplifting, man of the household
he has a set of laws and the mad scientist lives in the lab to supply right the right doses for the right medicine
but i digress, the front office and coaches are gaining unconditional love
the love that pittsburgh steelers and green bay packers fans have for their cities
where the fans and city support the football team and trust everything they do
dont get me wrong, philadelphia is up there but it could be better
unison creates positivity, things happen when you have a strength in numbers
from this perspective, i trust everything they do and research and believe in them
i expect to be in the playoffs every year and contend for the ring, yes seriously
i love my eagles!
Banner to me sounds like us….just saying.
I hoestly think they want to win the whole flipping thing.
I honestly believe that they are making these decitions together. Gcobb pointed out a few weeks ago that “andy voted for Smac to stay and they other 2 voted him out). G, do you still stand behind that? Know anthing else?
Great posts Stevo. Both of them, but I particularly loved the 1st one.
Correction. All 3 of them.
guys,
what’s the over/under on how many torn acl guys we will pick up via free agency or draft?
not sure on my guess, but I’d definitely say that the # of times someone on this site complains about it will be greater than the total of injured players they add and/or scout.
It’s FOOTBALL, most people have injuries after a season. It’s SO overblown that the Eagles pickup more players coming off of injuries than other teams.
Paulman are we still talking about the Eagles being cheap. That’s a tired argument and hasn’t been true for years. Peters, Samuel, Owens, Stacey Andrews to name a few. This team doesn’t spend like Washington I will give you that, But to say they go for only 3rd tier players is ridiculous. If you want to be fair you need to break down EVERY other NFL team and show me which team besides the Redskins sign Blue Chippers year after year than come back to me with a comparison.
dag – don’t mess with Paulman, he said he ‘see’s’ things, and once he looks into his crystal ball, it’s GOING to happen. He knows everything. Especially the future and how to stir arguments and drum up support from negative philly fans – that way his ego gets stroked.
schiller we know it’s football but how many torn acl guys do we need to sign each year to play significant roles? Not just contribute or backups but guys that need to play at a high level. We draft them or bargain shop in free agency trying to outsmart and underspend everyone to find a diamond in the rough. You can be content with it but that doesn’t mean the rest of need to. Stop trying to tell fans how they should feel and the things they should or should not say. You can crawl back under the rock you were under for the majority of the season. We didn’t miss you one bit.
here’s our draft and FA strategy as BSM said a while ago:
Let’s remove emotion, loyalty and just look at how the season began and ended. The team was flat and horrible in the opener against Green Bay. Michael Vick comes in and lifts the team. He begins to break down as a result of Andy Reid’s inability to properly mix his plays. He decides to go exclusively to the shotgun formation on every down. For the detail of his action see Ray Didinger’s article on CSNPhilly.
The playoff bound Philadelphia Eagles should have lost to the Giants. They then lost to a ROOKIE HEAD COACH with a ROOKIE QUARTERBACK with almost no starts who WAS drafted to be a WR. All of this was done at home with a BYE ON THE LINE. The year before they were twice HUMILIATED by DALLAS.
Andy Reid has a problem adjusting to Everything. His Fastballs are not working on defense. He refused to draft a center and relied on a TORN ACL GUY to be the starter.
There is something to be said about the Andy Reid and the Eagles constantly relying on a TORN ACL GUY.
Starting middle linebacker Stewart Bradley was drafted by the Birds even though he had a torn ACL in 2005 at Nebraska. He gets to the Eagles becomes the starting middle linebacker and becomes TORN ACL GUY without being hit. He missed time this year because of an injured elbow.
Marlon Jackson – TORN ACL GUY
Cornelius Ingram – TORN ACL GUY
Stacy Andrews – TORN ACL GUY
Ricky Sapp – TORN ACL GUY
Jack Ikeqwuonu – TORN ACL GUY
Look at the draft picks and money wasted on TORN ACL GUY. Look at the production. One good season from Stewart Bradley. What’s even more illuminating about this habit of drafting and signing players with TORN ACL’s, nearly all of these guys suffered additional TORN ACL’s in injuries where they weren’t even hit.
TORN ACL GUY represents the Eagles Philosophy of budgeting.
THEY WANT TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP AS LONG AS THEY CAN DO IT ON THEIR CHOSEN BUDGET.
Andy Reid is the only head coach who comes into a season with NO KICK RETURNER. Or SLOW MOTION KICK RETURNER – AKA – Reno Mahe or his clone Chad Hall. The SEC ACC BIG TEN AND BIG 12 are full of track guys playing football who run back kicks. There is no way in Hades that an NFL team can’t have a speedster running back kicks.
And people wonder why many don’t have as much faith in Andy.
i say the # of injured free agents we sign will be zero. the nova care is already full of our own guys rehabbing we don’t need to sign new ones.
“THEY WANT TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP AS LONG AS THEY CAN DO IT ON THEIR CHOSEN BUDGET”.
this one is hard because i 100% agree and 100% disagree.
I agree because they really rely WAY toooo much on torn acl guy. I was shocked this year with the state of our 2ndary. This USED to be our largest strength and i would argue that it was our second biggest weekness and we ALL KNEW THIS GOING INTO THE SEASON.
I dont agree that its all about money. I honestly feel that they wont overpay for a guy thats not worth it. Here is just a short list of players that when they were FA’s…. evryone on this site went nuts over.
j walker
Roy williams
The little rb from the Giants
Hanesworth
stallworth (2nd time around)
R Moss
TO be fair…. they missed it when they didnt get Gonzo.
My point is…. i think they really think torn ACL guy can pull it out for them. Im hoping theyve learned their lesson.
You actually look at the talent on this team and call them “one of the best” front offices? I must have missed the bigtime stars they’ve drafted on defense. They are a relatively good coached, mediocre talented team, whose coach can’t figure out how to call a game to beat the better teams in the league. He beats the bad teams and has a losing record against the good teams. Sounds like a B to B minus to me.
I am not saying the EAgles are Cheap,
they were ranked #21st in lowest Salary in the NFL for the 2010 Season
I am reiteratibng when Banner said which is they will be agressive, but for the players to fill in depth and not the big name players (which is the same thing as saying that they will not be spending much this off-season in the Free-Agent Market) , if there even is one.. I think they will concentrate on the
17 Free-Agents on the Eagles team and look to re-sign about 7-8 players
(Bradley,Jordan,MJG,D Patterson,J Jackson, Q Mickell) I look for a lot of
1 year deals for players by their own teams due to a late start in the free-agency market and signing period which no one knows when that will be or if there will be one, meanwhile teams have the Draft, have needs and will fill needs.. SO I expect most free-agents to re-sign short contracts with thier existing teams .. The players that athe teams still want that it..
Rasadoc…. im with you. I think their D falt out sucks. Im sick of this style im sick of the same words every year (we want the front 4 to get to the qb) and yet they send the house far too often. I want a D that has talent and can takle… not just one that is fast.
if I had a choice of FA, it would be OG Carl Nicks… hands down….spend the $$$$ on him and not CB Asomugha.
Also, I dont see Banner giving him $15m per yr
One of Paulman’s sources(reliable this time) tells me they’re working OT to evaluate all the potential UFAs and rookie FAS hitting the market with busted ligaments.
I like RT R Clabo from the Falcons (who they will probably Franchise)
but if not, Go get him to be RT, then have McGlynn & Justice fight it out for RG
while J Jackson takes over at Center
I agree with @bsmvideos and @scorpiodsu it’s all about winning cheap. Not to mention we just got another TORN ACL BUM FROM THE BENGALS!!! smh
I stand corrected ONLY A BROKEN LEG THIS TIME