During a recent interview, Arizona Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt seemed to be a guy who was trying to downplay rumors about the Eagles and the Cardinals have already agreed to a trade involving quarterback Kevin Kolb and cornerback Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie.
It’s a little too late for Whisenhunt to throw us off the scent of a trade.
I have talked to an NFL source close to the Arizona Cardinals who told me that the Cardinals offensive coaches have been studying tapes of Kevin Kolb since the 2010 season ended. He told me that the Cards staff was excited about acquiring him after watching his performance against the Atlanta Falcons. They like the way he gets rid of the football and they’re already imagining him throwing the ball to their Pro Bowl wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald.
I can understand why Whisenhunt would be unwilling to legitimate any deal or interest in a deal. He has probably seen the reports which disclose the Eagles desire to acquire more than Rodgers-Cromartie in a trade for Kolb. I was told by my NFL source that the Cardinals coach and his staff may not be willing to give the Eagles more than Rodgers-Cromartie for Kolb because they’re not totally convinced that Kolb will be a franchise quarterback.
They don’t like the fact that he’s started only seven games in his career. During those games, he’s been hot and cold. They claim to be still in love with Rodgers-Cromartie, a young, 6’2″ speedster who can match up with any receiver in the league. They’re still high on him despite some inconsistent play in 2010.
As for Kolb, the Cardinals were excited about his play against Atlanta and San Francisco, but they were troubled by the way he played
against the Green Bay Packers, Washington Redskins and the Dallas Cowboys.
They think Kolb has an adequate arm but not a great one. They’re anxious to get him on the roster and in the process of learning their offense. Their number one concern about Kolb is how will he respond when he gets hit and must move the offense despite intense pass rush pressure.
I think the Cards and the Eagles will do this deal because it makes sense for both of them. It’s not perfect, but it’s a deal which best addresses the needs of both teams. My NFL source told me that Arizona is concerned that they’ll lose Larry Fitzgerald after the 2011 season, if they don’t bring in a quarterback who can get him the football. They’re not sure that their other quarterback choice, Marc Bulger, “has the fire in his belly” to be a starter again in the NFL.
On a side note concerning Fitzgerald, I was told that he denied requesting Kolb in a conversation with Whisenhunt, but the Cardinals staff feels that Kolb is the guy that he favors.
The Eagles have a Super Bowl-caliber offense, but their vulnerable defense is in desperate need of a starting cornerback. The combination of Asante Samuel and Rodgers-Cromartie would give them one of the best cornerback duos in the NFL. Rodgers-Cromartie is young, seasoned and a great matchup for all of the big receivers on the Giants and Cowboys rosters.
This deal is a potentially great move for both teams and that’s why I think it will get done.
i think it started with anyone who looked at both teams on paper/film. glaring needs in both positions after the draft. neither team addressed the need.
In the past Crystal Ball Andy usually sees the Eagles needs a year or 3 down the road.
The need for a WR addressed after a few years.
The need for a KR addressed after a couple of years of Reno Mahe.
The need for a Center (???)
These needs any fan could see but Crystal Ball Andy Drafted a ton of loser defensive ends or fastballs.
So writing an article that says it makes sense for both teams means nothing when Crystal Ball is involved.
He and the Eagles front office are so much smarter than the diehard Eagle fans that they have won a ton of “almost Superbowls” in 12 years.
Crystal ball’s greatest vision has to be a Defensive Coordinator out of an Offensive line Coach. Who can honestly say they saw that coming. You need a crystal ball for that kind of vision.
“At an End your rule is… And not short enough it was”
I would like to see this get done.
Arizona just drafted Williams at RB so see what they want for Hightower.
Would be nice to have a goal line back.
Hightower is a free-agent and will draw some interest from around the NFL
Cardinals are going with Beanie Wells as their power back and WIlliams as their big play, speed back and receiver out of the backfield.. Hightower is a goner
Thanks for the irrelevant information paulman. go back to the fantasy football charts that no one cares about
And your post was insightful?We have a need at r.c.. Deep.
DRC straight up for Kolb is a great deal.And would allow us to spend our loot on the d-line.Maybe go after Logan?
I dont love this deal, but you can not teach size, and speed… so its much better than getting a pick. And it gives them money to spend on other areas… but even though I’m not a giant kolb fan, I think straight up the eagles need more in return.. a cb for a qb is not an even switch
Projected starting o-line…Peters,Herramans,Jackson,Watkins,Justice. If they went after Mankins they could tell Justice and Herramans to fight it out for the r.t. spot.
If they deal Kolb for Rodgers-Cromartie and draft picks then drafting Kolb was a win. The people on here that say we wasted a pick in which we could of had drafted a player that would of played a position of need are just hypocrites. Those are the same people that criticize this organization and head coach to the point that they think they do nothing right and that their judgments are always wrong, yet they think the player that could of been picked instead of Kolb would be a HOFer.
I could see us getting Rodgers-Cromartie, a 4th rounder and a conditional pick based on how Kolb plays put for them.
Give me Billy Volek as our backup over T. Jackson and Vince Young or whoever else was mentioned on here
Assuming the Birds do the deal above with Kolb I could see them picking up Brandon Mebane, Stephen Tulloch, and then either Antwan Odom
or Mathias Kiwanuka who can both be exactly what we need in a pass rusher but both have injury concerns.
I think the Birds will do something along the O-Line. protecting Vick’s blindspot is the 2nd most important position on this team and I don’t think Winston Justice/King Dunlap is good enough. I wont be surprised if their big move in free agency is dealing Justice and a pick for someone a lot better.
How so?DRC has made plays and is a legit # 1 when Sante is done.He is now. Kolb is an unknown. If anything the Cards should want more.
I never said mine was insightful but it was at least relevant. lmb
If you say so….
Someone brought up Hightower…Paulmandomis was given them a lowdown.
lmb?Ok to whatever that means.
Why in the world would you trade Kolb for any player this year. Give me the #1 and #3 next year. With over 500 FA and countless others to be released I can find a starting CB or ANY other position player on the market this year. Now if you were trading for Revis thats a different story. Give me a # 1 and #3 next year and sign someone you rate as high as DRC. DRC is a nice player but far from elite. All of the sudden DRC is a player b/c he may be coming to Philly. The truth is he is just ok with potential. Im not sure he is even a top 20 CB in the NFL.
The point that everyone is forgetting that the Cards drafted Patrick Patterson with their first round pick which makes DRC expendable. Also they have no talent at QB, the most important position on the team. The reason why the eagles are trying to pull for that other pick is that they have the leverage with the Seahawks (and other teams) in the mix. What they need to do is sign a veteran QB after the trade, negotiate a new contract with Desean, and sign a defensive tackle or defensive end that can help with the pass rush. The eagles need to make this trade happen because DRC comes at a much cheaper price than Nnamdi and is better than the other free agent talent out there. Trading for picks would be a terrible decision.
Logan Mankins would be a nice addition, but i think the price for him is too high. The eagles are projected to be 13 million under the new cap and desean, a DE, and a veteran safety, leave no room for a big O line signing like Mankins. Even though I would much rather him protecting Vick’s blindside over Justice.
Anything less than Asmo…would be a disappointment. He’s the best corner available and if you’re looking to win it all you go for the best….The Eagles have the money and I don’t want to hear about extra money for other areas we know the Eagles will not use. They stay under the cap every year.
If you’re looking to win..you get the best…not a consolation…DRC is nowhere close..And I told you all when everyone even the Eagles started talking about the possibilities that they will find a way to make the fans believe we all would be better off with Lesser talent than Asmo.
They spin you suckers every year now, the same people who were excited about the possibility of getting a shut-down corner in Asmo is now saying Asmo may cost too much…Saying Asmo is too expensive for a player over 30..yet the same guys are looking to get Ike Taylor when he’s over 30.but comes cheaper.
Look..if you want to be the best……Get the Best.
Will the defense be better with Asomugha or DRC?
We should spend for the best and get picks for Kolb. If we are looking to win with the best player at our position of need.
DRC makes d solid.Asmo makes D top shelf. Teams threw his way 18 times last year….18 times.He gave up 7 catches.7. Recievers in his division.Bowe,Jackson,Gates,Lloyd…yes he stuck the TE Gates several times.I agree Songs. Get him and be top shelf. DRC would be nice and if they made some moves for d-lineman im gonna be pleased. But i think we need Asmo…i dont care if he’s 30….he is the BEST corner in the league. Revis is good and so is Chuck…but look at the studs on there defense. Name one stud on Oaklands d.And dont give me Seymour.
Get em.
this deal makes too much sense for both teams. i dont know all that much about cromartie but he sounds like a pretty good corner from what i have read. now we can focus on other positions in free agency. sign plax, get haynesworth somehow, get a d end, trade vick for ray lewis, and we’ll run with kafka. super bowl champs 2012!
He is the best, but do you want them to spend 15-20 mil per year to get him, because that is what the talking heads say that it will take. That would be all of their money for FA.
Erock…is top shelf better than solid? If you’re in a playoff game one in done..do you want a solid defense or a top shelf defense?
I think that answers the question. If your team is better with a better player…and the money is there to get the player….What’s the problem? I know…Let’s save Banner a few nickles…That way we can win the salary management Bowl again this year. At least we can hoist anothe Maxwell award.
Erock ..exactly…that should be the focus…Not a cheaper player that’s not even close to Asmo in skill.
yes….the big play hurt us last year….he instantly makes our defense a nightmare for d-cords.where are you throwing?
Don’t be surprised if these weasels get greedy and ask for too much. This owner is not Philly bred and doesn’t feel the passion we fans do. They con and paint a pretty picture and fans get soooo excited. Same result every year. Until real change takes place, we will continue this vicious cycle. Reid will continue not answering questions and fans will complain. No change and NO SUPER BOWL.
pete60..Damn it hurts but you may be right.
It feels like groundhog day. we’ll get a consolation and the Eagles will tout it as if we got the best corner since Eric Allen played in Eagles green. They’ll tell us that their guy was the one they were targeting along while Asmo go to another team. This is how you know if a team is really trying to win or not. When you have a glaring weak spot and the best player available plays that spot and you don’t get him, even when you have the money to get him..you’re not trying to win it all. We need a player with swagger who can tackle and take his man out of the game..and can cover any receiver in the league. That’s not DRC
PETE60, see how valid & smart you sound, when your not ripping the man’s waste line, & make valid points. BTW, I agree with you that front office changes need to be made. If they don’t have a great year this year, Reid needs to go. No more excuses.
If this trade for DRC goes through, like everyone believes, the safeties better be ready to play centerfield. Because with Asante & DRC, tackling like bullfighters, they’re going to have to make alot of plays. This deal makes alot of sense. You trade Kolb for, DRC & 3rd rounder. Also their salaries almost match perfectly. Which is great because, that is 1 less hole to fill with their FA $$$.
Song there is a downfall to signing Nmandi Asomugha Warren Sapp made a good point To spend damn near 1/5 of your cap (16-20 million)on a db is assanine. Teams will run 4-5 reciever sets and just go after the other 3 cbs. lol. Nmandi only plays on 1 side and if a Andre Johnson lines up on the other side or in the slot Nmandi aint covering him.. For 16-20 million a year you can get a stud DL and a stud LB.
DAGG, I agree 100%. The Birds are only going to have $20M-$25M to spend, if the reported $120M cap is true. How the f^ck are we going to fill holes at DE, DT, LB & the rookies & backups, if Asomugha gets $17M-$20M? Are people on here drug addicts, delusional or just plain stupid? Come on Gents, get your heads out of your a$$e$. They would have to release many players, & make additional holes, to fill the ones they already have. See the conundrum? Asomugha ain’t happening!
Dagg…teams don’t sign players based on what other teams might scheme. If that’s the case because a team throw 4-5 receiver sets ..let’s not sign a corner.
I mean..our corners can only stick their area right?
Superior talent win games….If you know a corner have shut down ability you can scheme knowing he can take care of his end..That can not be said about any corner. I don’t give a damn about the so called salary part. The Eagles have the money to give and if another team can pay for the best available…why can’t we?
I concede….we will not get Asmo….
Did all the research I needed on this with DRC and it’s clear…He fits the Eagles.
He never panned out as the starter Arizona thought he would be coming out of college and was hounded last year for his weak work ethic and it resulted in him getting torched last year…so, Arizona had it in their mind that if Peterson was there in the draft they would get him and eventually release DRC…They gave up on him. But someone elses trash is another’s treasure.
Enter Joe (Nickles) Banner in the equation…This is the piece that tells me DRC is a lock to become an Eagle.
Rodgers-Cromartie is due a reported $950,000 in 2011 and about $1.1M in 2012
Look at that salary guys..He was getting torched last season and his salary is pretty modest. Why would the Cardinals draft a corner to replace DRC if they thought he had an upside? He’s a prior 1st round pick and is slated to get less the 1 million this season. Usually a team would hold on to a talent with such a modest price tag. This don’t past the sniff test guys.
This is a Joe (Nickles) Banner wet dream.
A 185 pound less than a million under achieving first round pick.
Guys don’t buy it.
This guy can not tackle…
We will be in the same position without help if we let them slip this in on us. Ike Taylor at the bare minimum…But don’t let the Eagles sell us this stiff.
You guys are probably wondering why I’m harping on this….I’ve harped on them ignoring the receivers when they told everyone it’s fine…I harped on the Corner position when they let Sheldon go without a real replacement….I harped on the ridiculous Kolb promotion to starter without an open competition…and through the years…I’ve been right..While guys came on giving excuses for this organization. Now…we’re here again.
The Eagles have the prie opportunity to get a proven corner and the options are there for the picking. If we pick the lightest, cheapest option, that’s not the most talented of the bunch…that will speak volumes.
Mark these posts…if we get DRC instead of signing Asmo or Ike Taylor…We will regret it. The receivers in our division are tall and strong and will use their bodies to screen our little corners…and they will break tackles in the open field. We better get Asmo and give him a nice signing bonus with guaranteed money so his yearly cap space is modest. If we do it this way…that overrides this 17 million a year garbage people are talking about. Signing Bonus and skillful cap management allows teams to sign players yet keep the yearly salary modest..and there’s deal where the bulk of the money is usually back loaded. So I don’t want to hear this garbage claiming if we sign Asmo that would be sacrificing other positions of need. It can get done and we’ll still be able to sign a defensive end.
Songs, just wondering, do you think Nnamdi and/or his agent are smart enough to understand how contracts work – or at least as well as you do? So maybe they would look at a contract like that and look elsewhere for more money earlier in the contract?
Schill ..every player over 30 knows the contract is usually a good 2-4 year dea and the money received in those years is usually expected money in a deal. It’s no different with Asmo…there’s no team on earth who would give him a 10 year deal worth 17 million each of those years….but there is teams that will give him a deal in which he can get that 60 million within 4 years with a signing sweet bonus and a modest yearly salary….then the additional amounts which is usually bloated can be put on the back end….that’s doable. Look we have seen these players signed many days to know it can be done and the money can be moved in a way that’s cap friendly ..so money is really not the issue. The issue here is whether or not the Eagles is willing to pay a top talent or take a risk just to pay a low dollar amount. DRC is what he is…He’s not better than Ike Turner, Joseph, or Asmo..(3) players we can get. Why settle for a less talented player?
By the way..Favre will get signed…he’s the diversion Joe (Nickles) Banner needs while he ignore the hole at Corner.
Again DRC is not a big deal…we’ll regret it.
185 pound corner that don’t like tackling.
Songs, I’m sorry. I apologize for taking up your time when essentially the crux of your argument is that you know what the future will be. Well…sigh… I think you all know how I feel about human beings and psychic powers.
In other news, here’s hoping for an impactful CB, a ‘hit’ at DE, improvement from youth, and maybe even another Reid magic trick enigma QB revival.
SCHILL, why do you dislike psychics? Did one of them give you bad lottery picks that hasn’t paid off yet? LMFAO!!!
Well..Schill …I’m batting 1,000
Remember I told everyone before last season that Kolb would have a 2 game leash and he would be outta here after the season?
You were talking that psycic mess last year?
Songs..how do you know?
well…I watch football.
And I’m saying now before anyone is speaking on it..that if we get DRC as the answer to our right corner problem..we’ll regret it. I’d rather see Trevard Lindley..and he’s below average. The players we need are available for the right corner…..the question is will the Eagles pay for the talent? and I’m not just talking about Asmo….Joseph is there….Taylor is there…these 2 are in another class above DRC….and they are not near Asmo….and of all the talent available…we’re looking to trade for a guy who Arizona have given up on? Alright…we may not get Asmo…but what is the issue concerning the other free agents who are better than DRC?
Songs, I too am interested in the other cbs. And in case you forgot, I would love Nnamdi as an Eagle. I also think that you are ignoring DRC’s two good years and the lack of help he had in the zona secondary.
But more importantly, why have you eaten all that the media has fed us in terms of believing the DRC vor Kolb deal is a done? DRC is an Eagle right now. Right? Nope. So that means that you are all hot and bothered about jumping to conclusions…. that’s a shame.
And for the record, I’m very impressed with your 1,000 batting average – albeit at a sample size of 1. ONE. I can make a free throw but I’m no high percentage shooter…
Take a deep breath Songs. Chill. The NFL is currently in a lockout and here you are having a heartattack over speculation.
Schill even though the lockout is still in place…that don’t stop the Eagles PR machine that prep people for garbage low priced players…I’m trying to get out in front of it because some guys have already took the bait. I’m concentrating on DRC’s latest body of work.
He can’t tackle…and after playing football all his life I don’t know if he’ll ever learn how to. if he haven’t learned by now.
He’s light and do not match up with the Physical Receivers in the NFC East.
And he was picked on by QB’s who completed 65% against him….and this happened playing in a weak division.
If this guy was expected to make 3-6 million this season…DRC would not be in the conversations based on his poor play.
His 950,000 salary have as much to do with the interest than anything..For those who have not follwed this guy….They’ll sell DRC and claim this was their plan all along so we’re not pissed when another team get the better, higher priced corners. This is how the Eagles do business…and don’t be surprised if they don’t sign a good DE, or OT…They’ll just shift the conversation into trying to resign our guys while giving us another lackluster offseason.
What free agent de we sign last year that impacted our team?
Songs, what bait have we taken? That DRC is a great corner and will solve our RCB problems? Who is saying that? Where was that bait? Nobody. Nowhere.
You are obsessed with DRC now because of a measly media rumor – YOU sir are the one who took the bait.
And Songs, as a guy who very often calls people out for not answering YOUR questions, answer MINE, NOW:
TELL ME THE LAST SUPERBOWL WINNER THAT HAD A FLASHY OFFSEASON. TELL ME THE FREE AGENCY SIGNINGS THAT PUT A SUPERBOWL WINNING TEAM OVER THE TOP. That’s the crux of your whole thesis “What free agent d(id) we sign last year that impacted our team?.. for example.
Well tell me, since you think that’s the path for success… tell me, which precedent do you base that on? Because from where I’m standing (and what has been stated over and over by any and all analysts) there just aren’t examples of teams winning superbowls because they signed big free agents.
SONGS, what big free agents did GB sign last offseason? There’s a question for you. I’ll make it easy for you, NONE! So your free agent arguments are a$$ backwards, idiotic & nonsensical. Just like your fantasy hard on with Asomugha & Favre. Please, STFU already. How many more times do Schiller & I have to prove you wrong & idiotic?
Chad Hall was a free-agent signing last off-season, wasn’t he… He made an impact…
I’m still waiting for the understanding on how another team will be able sign Asmo yet we can’t.
Other teams don’t have Michael Vick and Desean Jackson to resign to TOP TEN contracts. Open your eyes moron.
Birdo, again, yep!
Right now Vick is under contract and Djax is under contract…We should focus on Asmo…see if he”l sign for a little less to contend…if not we should turn our sights to Joseph….joseph can cover and hit..If we are too cheap to pay for Joseph then we should be looking into the older Taylor from the Steelers..These are all vast improvements..But not an 185 pound guy who can’t tackle and have a QB’s complete 65% of their passes against him. Hell they might as well keep Patterson.