It was supposed to happen yesterday. Eagles backup quarterback Kevin Kolb was supposed to be traded, but he remains a Philadelphia Eagle and there’s a chance that he could be the team’s back up quarterback in the upcoming season.
The Eagles were talking to both the Arizona Cardinals and the Seattle Seahawks yesterday, but that’s no longer the case. Seattle acquired former Minnesota Vikings quarterback Tavaris Jackson yesterday. That means the Seahawks are out of the Kolb hunt, so the Birds will only have the Cardinals to negotiate with.
In another move the Denver Broncos have decided to put last year’s starting quarterback Kyle Orton on the trading block, so the Eagles might have to lower what they’re asking for in the Kolb trade. Cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie was thought to be the Birds target, but reports have them also asking for a top draft pick.
What had been a definite is now a maybe. Kolb and the Birds can’t be comfortable right now with time running out and fewer teams interested in their backup quarterback. If the Eagles are going to get anything done with moving Kolb, they had better make it happen in the next couple of days.
They’re being aggressive as can be G, If its up to our front office we’re going to get a 1st and second round pick along with a probowl corner for Kolb. Our front office will come to the rescue like they do every year; we’re the most Aggressive team in the league. Everybody cool-out and put on your party hats and get behind “ol Joe B”; he’s running this circus clown show better than any team in the league. “HONK HONK”!!!!!!!
GET HIM OUTTA HERE!! man.. What happened to the aggressive plan we had? teams are making moves and it seems their first priority was to sign some scrub rookie free agents. How disappointed would you be if we didnt sign any of the top free agents available? my worry meter on a scale from 1-10 is a 6 right now.
Yea vricchini, because signing the best free agents always equates to winning it all. Man those redskins fans must be sick of the parades by now….
Chill out everyone, things will workout.
Aggressive is just a word for the Eagles…We hear them every year how they claim…”we like to be aggressive every year”.
Guys I told you!!!!!
Once free agency is over the spin machine will come out and say how aggressive they were but the Free Agents were unreasonable in their asking price.
sounds familiar?
Then we’ll be on here repeating that garbage while we prepare for another disappointing season .. Look for them to use Eskins and Caplan to leak out some garbage guy and sell him as if he’s the sleeper of the whole Free Agent Crop…He’ll be cheap and just another body…This is what they do.
mannnn andy swears kolb is worth so much. He was drafted in the second round the guy wants a 1st round pick for him. how the hell do you figure that will go over. Its outreagous. I would take a DRC and a 3rd for kolb easy!
Vricchini and wild_bk,
I feel both of ya…On the one hand because asmo or joseph isn’t signed yet I’m kinda chillin out. But, if another team signs those big FA corners – drying up the market, then “HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM”; we’ll have to wait and see though. Either our FO is going to do a big Samuels or T.O. like signing, or this will be another so called aggressive down year per our front office.
Sources of mine down in Atlantic City (couple of ex-FLyers players Richards & Carter) tweeted me and said they saw GM Roseman, PRes Banner and Coach AR drinking,gambling and partying with some of the Show Girls last evening to the early morning hours… Jeff carter stated that Free-agents and roster updgrades appears to have been the furthest thing from their minds…
He is not that good, orton is more of a prospect then kolb is. There gonna keep waiting and were gonna be shafted with no right corner again and people are gonna blow holes on that side of the defense again. I do think its important to have a guy behind vick but bring in a guy like vince young. I know ill get killed for that, but we have a stong organization and one of the best qb coaches.Cant deny vinces win percentage. The guy isnt the best qb but he wins and maybe he can learn something from vick. Vick goes down at least Vy can win you couple of games. Unless theres a better option im all for it.
Spin machine is already in 2nd gear Songs and rev-ving up fast with no oil. I can alrerady see it.
they better not mess this up… They been bragging about their great scheme throughout the lockout. Everybody couldnt wait to see how the Eagles were gonna execute this plan when free agency starts..
they BETTER get this right
Hoping on a deal for CB Richard Marshall or Carlos Rogers
and then either S Tulloch or Ben Leber at OLB..
If they address these and get DE R Edwards, I will be satisfied and they will have improved this Defense..
Kolb looks like he will remain an Eagle which is what I have thought all along..No one is going to offer a 1st Round or a Starter and a 2nd Rounder for a QB with 7 Starts under his belt.. QB’s Orton,V Young,M Bulger all have substantial games started on their resume’s and you kind of know what your going to get with Kolb is still too much of a question ???
So many deals happening that have direct effects for the eagles. Starting with these qb moves. Kolb is losing places he could have called his home. This isnt good but there is still a chance he could go to the bengals, dolphins, 49ers (even though they signed alex smith again) or cards… Wr front, that deal santonio holmes has set the market for wrs, desean will most likely command a deal like he has… 5 years 50 mill 20 mill guaranteed, so this has a direct bearing on his negotiations…. Also Barry Cofield going to the redskins effect the eagles chances of getting haynesworth because the skins will not trade him within the same division, they wanna trade him outside of the division… So the eagles need to wait to see if and i feel when haynesworth will be released so they can sign him…
I heard the Cardinals even turned down a Kolb for MAtt Ware straight up deal..How fast the mighty and ovverhyped machine of the Eagles Front office have fallen and some of you actually thought the Cardinals Drafed Patrick Petersen at #5 simply to trade to the Eagles for Kolb in a back room deal.. Insanity… Peterson is probably the most athletic player to be drafted in years and the Caridnals took him for he was the best player on the board at #5 which is what you should do…
Now the Cardinals will have All-Pro Safety Adrian Wilson, CB’s P Peterson and DCR which gives them a pretty damn good Secondary …
You people do realize you can’t sign FAs till Friday right? You only have the ability to sign undrafts and resign your own players ? Right – you guys realize this? As for aggressive – as the team released every FA and RFA – and they need to replace those bodies on the roster – translates into a semi-significant roster turnover – – right.
So – all your gnashing teeth grinding are over if/when we trade the back-up QB – – really?
Why trade Kolb if you don’t need to? If you trade him you have to find a solid #2 – don’t trade him no big deal – he is back-up for another year – as you couldn’t trade him before yesturday……………………….
No way JH,
Your not paying attention enough
49ers drafteed their QB of the Future in C Kaperenick, and signed A Smith as a short-term player at QB
Bengals drafted their QB of the Future in A Dalton and will probably play Jason Palmer or sign a J Delhomme, MAtt Moore type to bridge the gap before Dalton is ready..
There are now only 2 teams needed a QB and thats Cardinals and DOlphins and there are K Orton, V Young, M Bulger all still availalbe and more accomplished than Kolb…
and please get off the Haynesworth wagon for he will not be released or traded to the Eagles.. he either remains with the Redskins (doubtful) or gets traded to the Broncos (involving QB K Orton) or to another AFC team that employs a 4-3 Scheme
You can talk and discuss and reach agreements with all and any Free-Agents now but the official signing and annoucement of these deals comes Friday, but agreements are being made with Free-agents across the board right now Navy
Get prepared for the 2nd and 3rd Tier Bums who they will say were the targets all along.
And they’ll be right
Come to think about it, the 49ers signed alex smith so they can get Andrew Luck next year so you heard it hear first they will try to lose every game so Harbough can reunite with Luck next year… smh
Again on Kolb – so what if he comes back as the back up QB? You colud make a very valid argument based on Vick’s style of play the smart move would be to keep Kolb and give Kafka another year in the system and a year to have a QB go onto the practice squad? How is the trading of Kevin Kolb become the focal point of the ‘aggresiveness’ of the Eagles off-season plan?
Also – can we agree on a definition of agressive? Deciding to go into the new year with a new kicker and punter – rookies maybe – aggressive or crazy? Releasing a grunch of FAs – going young in the LB corp?
What defines aggressive – as the eagles HAVE to spend a certain amount (as all teams do so hopefully this ends the ‘funny’ cheap/nickels comments – though I seriously doubt it with the level of knowledge this crowd has) is it to buy one big FA (which would make the year we got Asante an aggressive year)
or two A minus FAs –
What is aggressive?
Paul, that rarely matters anymore… look what the panthers did last yr by drafting jimmy clausen in the second round last yr then go and draft cam newton in the first… you can put a guarantee on that kinda stuff… anything can happen… but like i stated the 49ers want luck so theyll try to lose every game this year…
And paul maybe your not seeing, are you blind? Guys you said the eagles will acquire are getting snatched up quickly… what happen?
JHart? Who? Who is getting snatched up that the Eagles were suppose to acquire?
Navy, id rather have vince young here over kolb… Hes a proven winner and has the same ability as vick where he can elude the rush then has escapability n speed… It doesnt look like he will get a starting job this year so the eagles need to pounce on that if they are looking to trade kolb…
Don’t worry guys,…..we got Howard Mudd and Washburn…They have rolled out as if the Eagles signed to new free agents….Give me a break.
Maybe they’ll suit up
Jon Hart, you’re a moron. Proven winner? What has he won? Look at his numbers. I don’t think Vince has EVER thrown for three TD’s in a game. He’s not a good quarterback. Period.
Yeah – Pman – check is in the mail, etc. etc. The vitrol is just amazing – one day – 24 hours into the season (the team even have a practice yet?) and why even bother playing a single game –
Eagles sat on their ass and waiting too long or are not ponying up the $$$..
My Free-Agent plan would make the Eagles better with more talented players who fit their schemes and are good locker room guys, but the Eagles surely don’t listen to me and tell us they know waht they are doing.. I simply research the players that were avaialable and came up with my lists on how and with whom they could make upgrades, but it’s up to them to act..
To Birdo
JH is probably referring with Ike Taylor (who ios going to resign w/Steelers)
BDT B Coefiled who signed a 6 year deal with the Redskins and DE C Johnsons who re-signed with teh Panthers
Songs – saw on another post where you wrote the Eagles are incompetent – then I figured it out – you use words that you have no clue what they mean –
WorldCom, Circuit City, BORDERS, ENRON, the Detriot lions, the Los Angelos Dodgers – those are examples of organizations that are incompetent – there is a huge gap (almost as wide as the difference in intelligence and football IQ between you and I) between incompetent and hasn’t won a SB yet. Huge.
Vince Young is fairly young and a former pro bowler with a strong arm…. The Cards need to get on the phone and get a prove commodity. Kolb is garbage..
the Eagles think they are in the drivers seat. pathetic
They had 6 months to prepare for every scenario and thought Kolb would be the top QB sought after….nope
Tavaris Jackson – signed
Donovan Mcnabb – Going to the Vikings to play with all those weapons and a running game to boot…He deserves this.
Cards are looking into Bulger and Orton knowing they could use the pick the Eagles are trying to get from them next year, and get a better option than Kolb in the future.
If this falls through the incompetence should be identified and “sacked”.
LOL, to bad for the Eagles. They should keep the guy since they invest so much media propaganda last year. It is the fair thing to do.
Sign Ray Edwards and Carlos Rogers — keep Kolb. Lets ride.
Keeping Kolb is unacceptable…. We dont need him to hold a clipboard here anymore… we need him to bring us some other pieces so the team can improve. get him outta here and bring us back something we can use this coming year..
He’ll walk and we’ll get no compensation if not and that is totally unacceptable. he is worth alot to us if we can trade him away…
You place undue value on a backup…. Who is Manning’s Back up? Who is Brady’s Back up? I dont believe I know those guys.. we dont need kolb here to be back up
bring in another backup and lets keep it moving
So just so we’re all on the same page here – you guys do realize that 0 contracts (save for rookies/undrafted RFAs) have been signed as of yet?
Wow – i thought I had seen the all time level of stupid statement – and then Rasheed –
and I quote – you place undue vlaue on a back-up – end quote.
Gents – sums up why most folks in the NFL think Philly has the most ignorant fan base.
Rasheed – did you notice that two years ago McNabb got hurt, last year Vick got hurt – have you seen Vick play?? Do you watch Manning or BRady play – how many times have you seen Manning take off for 25 yards and try to dodge a safety –
DRC doesn’t break us or make us. We’ve got the upper hand. Screw Arizona if they go with Orton. We’ll franchise Kolb and then we’ll sign Fitzgerald when he leaves.
NFC East Teams on the Rise
Gaints — Great Draft, updgrading their O/Line
Redskins — Good Draft, being aggressive so far in Free-agency after re-signing WR S Moss, and adding DT B Corefile, QB K Clemens, WR D Stallworth and got rid McNAbb and will soon trade HAynesorth
NFC Teams stuck in neutral and falling behind
COwboys – Questionable seletions in the 2nd/3rd/4th Rounds, releasing veteran players and have not been agressive in Free-agency so far
Eagles – Questionable draft selections with their 2nsd/3rd/4th Round picks too..Decided not to re-sign any of their own free-agents (Mickell,Bradley,Akers,Rocca,etc,etc) and unable to get any vlue for QB Kolb who has been on the trading blocks and built up for what 6 months now… and only big news signing so far is undrafted RB noel Devine who performed miserbly at Senior week and at the NFL Combine versus pro competition….. Is Football in back in Philadelphia.. You bet your hot sweaty ass it is…. Good grief….
Agreements can be reached as of last night,today,tonight,tommorrow Schiller. They just cannot be formaerly announced until Friday 7/29 per the NFL Calender that was just agreed upon. But Free-agents,Draft PIcks are being talked to, negoitiated and committed to agreements all around rthe NFL, just not in Philadelphia.. I wonder if GM Rosemann and Coach AR missed the Memo…
BirdCrap, you gotta keep up… dont make assumptions and post crap that you have no idea about… vince young is a winning qb, look at his overall record. Stats dont lie dumb dumb
navy fan
you are missing the point..
Kevin Kolb is valuable piece that could bring a pro-bowl corner or some picks or both..
Kevin Kolb’s greatest contribution to this team would be whatever he can bring us in a trade.
Kevin Kolb is not the only backup in the league.. We could always sign another. it wont be a difficult search. plus we’ll have a player that actually wants to back Vick up instead of Kolb who wants to start
the pieces Kolb could bring back are more valuable than a backup regardless of how prone Vick is to injury.
if kolb stays as a back up? you might get to use him this year or you might not…
then he walks at the end of the season and we forfeit the chance to trade him in for other pieces we actually need to play on each down..
this is a no brainer… kolb is worth much more to us in a trade than he is as a backup and its really that simple
G:
Yeah, no way a starting QB gets hurt in this pre-season for a contender. No way a QB goes down early for a playoff-hugry team. THE SKY IS FALLING! Kolb is a great back-up and the Birds will keep their options open. This is a great scenario for this team. Like I have said numerous times: Vick WILL get hurt. I don’t want him to get hurt, nobody does. But it will happen. It has always happened. What’s the problem with not trading him for his worth? If the Eagles cannot get what they think he is worth, keep him. END OF STORY!!! They drafted well when they drafted him.
The Eagles will just have to come up with another stud for the RCB position. Different emergency.
injuries are part of football.. lol you dont keep a backup who could bring much more than he is worth just because the starter might get hurt….
thats silly logic..
MAKE THE TRADE AND GET ANOTHER BACK UP
JH — are you another one of those morons that uses TEAM accomplishments to justify a QB?!
Newsflash moron, Trent Dilfer is a Superbowl winning QB — does that make him a great QB? Of course not.
You are right about one thing, stats don’t lie — go take a look at Vince Youngs PERSONAL stats as in yardage, completions, touchdowns, interceptions — then come talk to me you stupid sorry excuse for a fan.
Keeping Kolb, although I would like to get something for him, is NOT…I repeat, NOT a bad thing. The way Vick plays, we need a competent backup. If he gets traded, I’m down too. It’s a win/win.
Rasheed (smeegle) are you looking in the reflecting water and talking to yourself – cuase you said it best – why keep a high quality back up becuase the starter might get hurt – injuries happen…..
you are correct, that is silly logic
Per SBNation, Vick has missed 18% of his starts due to injury over his career. Brady 9%, Payton Manning 0%. Based on this, he’ll miss 2.88 games in 16 games. 3.42 games if you include 3 post season games. In a season that a team seriously thinks they’re SB contender and sees the running game as an afterthought, I don’t think you can over value the backup QB.
ref: http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2011/3/28/2075654/how-injury-prone-is-michael-vick-exactly
navy fan… maybe you being dumb on purpose, Im got no love for dummies so I wouldnt know.
like I said
the best course of action for the philadelphia eagles is to trade the back up for a pro-bowl corner and a pick (no brainer)
then the Eagles ANOTHER qb to back up Vick
this way, we cash in kolb (we actually rape arizona in the process because everyone knows he isnt worth all that) and then we get a qb to back up vick
this way we have covered all our bases and we have cashed in our chips to improve our team also
you just wanna hang onto Kolb like he is the only back up in the world(thats plain old dumb). Im telling you he isnt the only backup in world and as a matter of fact backups come pretty cheap and we should be to cop one really easy
smarten up
July 25,2011
Team President Joe Banner stressed the fact that the front office is ready to hit the ground running. “Even during the lockout, we kept working through the summer knowing we had to be ready for this moment – to go from zero to 100 mph overnight”.
Welcome all newcomers; come on in and join the AGGRESSIVE CIRCUS CLOWN SHOW by the all time famous sham ring master Joe Banner HONKHONKHONKHONK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on guys, stop overreacting about them not signing anyone. They can only negotiate so until a bunch of guys get signed then I’ll complain. But I do want Kolb out here asap. I said yesterday that his value goes down the longer the Eagles keep him because if they are asking too much, as other serviceable QBs get cut them there’s no need to overpay for Kolb. Just think about it, it’s looking like Minny only has to give up two 6th round draft picks for McNabb. If a team can get a proven veteran for so cheap and groom the QB of the future, there’s little incentive to give up a 1st or 2nd for Kolb unless you think he’s the QB of the future and who is really sure of that? So he needs to go asap. But otherwise, I’ll save my complaining for the weekend.
LOL @ Rocko. Yeah man, the FO swear they be going hard each year. They go hard every 4-5 years and that’s it. And navy, we all know what aggressive is. Sure there are different levels of aggressiveness but it’s clearly obvious when a team is being aggressive that goes beyond normal team transactions.
the Birds better get busy quick because Burress might be heading back to the Giants and we need a shutdown corner on the right side. i can still remember what happen to S Brown when Burress was playing.
navy fan ‘reading is fundamental’
I never said anything about a high quality backup lol.. Kolb is a mediocre Qb if you ask me and we need to cash him in while teams are infatuated with him..
even if he was a great back up (which he isnt) it is still stupid for them to keep the guy and let him walk for nothing after the season when he could bring so much in a trade right now
I think I hit the nail on the head way back in Febuary when a little off-season Signing of Career Back-up QB Seneca Wallace was made by the Cleveland Browns kind of told me the tale of what Kolb’s value would be around the League.. Now remember that the Browns hired a new HC in Shurmur who coached Kolb for his first 2 Seasons and have GM Heckert (who drafted Kolb) resigned to back-up Starter Colt McCoy.. If the people and coached who probably know Kolb the best, but were not impressed enough to even talk to the Eagles early in off-season and before the lock-out about a potential trade and if the Browns regime feel so strong enough about Seneca Wallace to sign him to a long-term deal to compete and be McCoy’s back-up, then this told me that Kolb isn’t held in very high esteem be the Coaches that know him the best and Drafted him…