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Eagles Problems Much Bigger Than Vick’s Injury

It’s starting to become like an ongoing metaphor. Michael Vick leaves the game, the Eagles in turn lose the game. Furthermore, while Vick’s misfortune will make things easier on anyone who claims that the Eagles are all about number 7, the fact of the matter is that the quarterback does not play defense, and for two weeks straight, that’s been the Eagles’ problem.

What the Eagles’ failures on defense essentially came down to were poor tackling, big plays and running backs, with the latter being the most important of them all. Going into this game, it was no secret that if the Giants were to win, it would be off the strength of their running backs and on Sunday afternoon you could see why.

Criticizing Eagles linebackers could be getting old to some, and can be regarded as beating a dead horse to others. But as long as that horse keeps coming back to life on Sundays, and rearing its ugly head, fans will time and time again be reminded that the mid three are very much the Eagles’ Achilles heal.

With a weakness so glaring, there was no way the Giants were not going to attack the linebackers. On both touchdown occasions, Jacobs TD and Bradshaw TD, New York forced the Eagles linebackers in a situation where they would have to make plays, and each time we were reminded that they just don’t.

It’s a sad reality for now, Casey Matthews, Jamar Chaney, and Moise Fokou could very well improve from here, but what must be more disheartening is the performance that Victor Cruz was allowed to display. When the Eagles bolstered their secondary in the summer, images of Nnamdi Asomugha missing tackles on Cruz’ first touchdown, and just being out-jumped and out-fought on the second may have been the last thing that fans would have envisioned, but it happened.

Yes, this game is bigger than the plays that led to the Giants’ touchdowns, we all know that, but you could very well walk away from this game thinking that the difference between New York and Philly on the day was the Giants’ ability to keep from allowing a big play. Eli Manning did not throw a pick, and the defense did not give up a single passing touchdown. Conversely, the Eagles gave up three passing TDs when New York was not even in the Red Zone.

So now, to put this into perspective, we basically have a similar situation as this previous week. Yes Vick is out again, and he has admitted he may not play next week. He finds himself on the sideline again, frustrated like never before, not at his teammates, but with the officials for not protecting him “like they protect others.”

Vick may have a reason to be upset too, the play on which he was injured did appear to be a late hit, but perhaps he could be just as upset with the overall team performance as well.

On Sunday, LeSean McCoy, and his out of this world cuts, was the only bright for the Eagles, and it is the running back that said after the game “a team isn’t based only one player.”

McCoy is right, and the rest of the Eagles will have to vindicate those words as well. Forget Mike Kafka’s performance yesterday, that was in a late game situation with the Eagles very much in desperation mode, he should be able to perform better if called upon next week.

If the Eagles truly want to show that it’s not all about Michael Vick, the linebackers will have to show up, the offensive line will have to protect the quarterbacks better, and Philly as a whole will have to show that it is a complete team, before anyone can even think about calling them the dream team.

Joseph Milord

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dawkplex1221
dawkplex1221
September 26, 2011 9:32 am

Yes the linebackers are horrible i knew they should have brought in a veteran. With all the free agents that were out there, barret rudd, tullouch, i cant believe they didnt even work someone out. I think akeem jordan plays better then casey at this point. Maybe the kid needs some time to learn i mean, no ota’s may really be hurting him. As far as the late hit, this happened all last season and now its happening into this season. Vick is right, he dosent get the calls others do. I said watching the game myself multiple times “where is the flag on that one?”. Kafka gets barley tapped by john abraham last week, abraham even tried to hold him up and he gets a flag but yet vick gets hit late consistently and gets hit in the head helmet to helmet and there is no love with the flag. Maybe its because of his past who knows, but from now on he needs to take the mentality its him vs the world. If they called it more often i think it would stop people from doing it so often. Teams cant afford 15 yards a clip all game.

Kachtice
Kachtice
September 26, 2011 9:46 am

Don’t see why people are so surprised that the Eagles lost yesterday. Typical Reidtarded mentality in the red zone, actually it covers the entire field, and terrible Linebacker and Safety play is going to be the constant for this season. Gone are the days when the talent overshadows the Reidtard ego. Unfortunately everyone can be assured that the Patriots fan who owns this team will continue to blame everyone but the only constant who continues to make the same mistakes every season.

drummerwinslow
September 26, 2011 10:23 am

Eagles Problems Much Bigger Than Vick’s Injury?

Eagles Problem weighs about 400 lbs.

jbird
jbird
September 26, 2011 10:26 am

I think it has to be time for AR to go if we keep losing games like this. The front office will blame it on Vick beiung hurt though and that will save him to serve out his contract. Banner will not re-sign him next year until after the season. He really believes that doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. He will not keep AR here if he misses the playoffs this year and next year. In fact, he won’t keep him if the team doesn’t have any playoff success by the end of 2012 season. I would bank on that. Andy is absolutely not untouchable like some cynical fans think. If he doesn’t produce, he will be gone when his contract expires.

jbird
jbird
September 26, 2011 10:35 am

And this is clearly Andy’s fault. The hiring of his assistants first and foremost. What did Juan Castillo ever do as O line coach? He was an average coach. He is clearly in over his depth. This was akin to making Seagrest the D line coach after he sucked on STs. This hiring is all on Andy. And he let Castillo draft players like Jarrett who is slow and Mathews who is too small. Castillo doesn’t know what he is doing and it is more and more clear every week. And he is Andy’s choice. It was also Andy who believed in Vick. Vick is the same guy he was in Atl. He is just more mature and no longer a complete punk. But he is still a very limited QB that doesn’t understand the position and never will. Great athlete, but not a QB that will ever win a championship. We should have just kept Kolb. At least he can run this offense, whatever it is. The offensive scheme is terrible so I can’t blame that on Vick. Marty has been a failure in this league. Why is he our offensive coordinator? He is as bad as Andy. I can’t see this team finishing above .500.

Kachtice
Kachtice
September 26, 2011 10:50 am

jbird, the Patriots fan has a billion reasons to extend the Reidtard during the 2012 season. You can believe that his missing the playoffs this season will be a deciding factor but the truth is the Reidtard is good for the bottom line and even without a team that makes the playoffs in spite of his constant boneheaded decisions on the sidelines.

Over the past twelve seasons what one constant has squandered every opportunity?

jbird
jbird
September 26, 2011 11:11 am

Kach…I disagree. The Patriot fan listens to Banner more than anyone in the organization and Banner has just about had it with Andy. The comments he made after 2009 foreshadowed that. If Andy doesn’t at least lose another NFCC in the next two seasons, he is a dead duck. Lurie doesn’t run the show here. Banner does. And he does because HE is the reason Lurie is a billionaire. Not Andy Reid.

IanIJM
IanIJM
September 26, 2011 11:16 am

Andy’s a genius. He made our offensive line coach our defensive coordinator and bought himself another year. If they don’t make the playoffs, he’ll just say he was being a team guy by giving Juan a chance, it didn’t work out, and they have to “move in a different direction.” I.E. he’ll throw him under the bus just like he did McDermott and he’ll get another season of being a horrible head coach just like he has for the last 13 seasons past. And the year after that it will be because we had a new defensive coordinator or because Vick got hurt or because the moon and the stars didn’t line up right or because his shorts were too tight or he had post-nasal drip … excuses, excuses, excuses.

Time’s yours.

Deepthreat
Deepthreat
September 26, 2011 11:52 am

Fourth Quarter. Vick gets hurt and leaves the game with a lead. Kafka comes in. Eagles score no more points. The Eagle defense (poorly prepared, poorly positioned, improperly manned) gives up two TD’s and the Eagles lose again to an inferior team. Why can’t Coach Andy see what everyone can plainly see?

IanIJM
IanIJM
September 26, 2011 12:00 pm

Well don’t forget that Andy’s also the genius who decided to throw deep on Kafka’s first pass after coming in on the bench. Shocker … he throws a pick. Gee, who saw that coming??

You don’t throw deep all game with one of the biggest-armed QB’s in the league, but you bring in rag-armed Kafka and decide he’s all of a sudden Duante Culpepper back there??

paulman
paulman
September 26, 2011 12:58 pm

4th loss in a row at the “Linc” going back to last Season
Does anyone think opposing teams are intimidated coming into Philly anymore to play the Eagles.. I don’t… Which is reflected in the Eagles 10-7 Home Record since the 2009 Season.. Let’s take a look at who they lose to at home since then

2009 Season (6-2 Overall record)
Losses to Saints, Cowboys but did beat Chiefs,Bucs,49ers and Broncos..
2010 Season (4-5 Overall record)
Losses to the Packers twice, Redskins,Vikings,Cowboys (had close wins over a injury riddled Colt Team, and hung on to beat the Texans and had a gift game by Eli Manning fumbling to them when trying to run out the clock in another game they coulda lost at home)

Bottom line here is the trend is that the EAgles cannot rise up to beat the better teams at home, who in their right mind thiks this team has the mental toughness and fortitude of winning tough games on the road when they can’t protect their home turf… If I am Owner Jeff Lurie/Pres Joe Banner, This is my basis of firing Coach Andy Reid.. .The Eagles are simply average at home anymore, the crowd noise is so dissapointing at home anymore that the big edge the Eagles used to have by playing at home is really not an impact anymore.. This entire Organization has gotten Soft following the lead of their HC AR down to the Coaching Staff and Players and now even down to the Fans.. This isn’t the Eagle Football I grew up with and I was embarrased by the entire performance and the crowd watching the game out in a public Sports Bar yesterday… I am not wasting any more of my free time on these upcoming Fall Sunday’s watching this dysfunctional HC and Team…
This is bullshit plain and simple..

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
September 27, 2011 8:54 am

hey….Tthe wide nine, and Mudds offensive line means more problems for us.
why?

Your scheme must be tailored to your talent…not the other way around.

Mudd’s line worked with Indy because of Peyton Manning. Period.

He would read the defense and call the appropriate play on the line, while tapping a and signaling his offensive line against mitch matches based on different defensive alighnments.

Our offense just don’t run that way and teams are manhandling our line Something is seriously flawed when we can move a yard to get a first down, or touchdown every year.

The wide nine can not workwith bad-average linebackers.

Wide nine is a novelty that should be mixed in with regular alignments. You can not have all your defensive linemen sprinting upfield with horrible linebackers, and safeties, on the 2nd and 3rd levels.

That’s a recipe for disaster!!!!!!

Is there a better safety on our team better safety there a bthan Brian Dawkins right now?

Is there a better safety on our team than Quinton Mikell right now?

If not, why did we decide to get rid of better talent only to replace them with bums?

Schill?

DCar
DCar
September 27, 2011 9:27 am

@Drummer, try 450!
, you answered your own question.
@Songs, all of the coward, stepford, apologists, won’t come on here again, until they win another game. Then they’ll say see, their OK, you are all negative haters.
F U, Schiller, Navy, Wmonell (Awolwest), Birdo, Reid, Morningwood, Rosebud, Ritalin boy Castillo, Mattews & all the other wastes of sperm, F U!!!!

paulman
paulman
September 27, 2011 9:51 am

LB Steve Tulloch is the missing piece and had to be a must- signing to me during Off-Season, Free-agency Period. He knows Washburn’s Wide Nine Scheme like the back of his hand since he played for the Titans and with Washburn. Tulloch can play inside or outside and has great leadership abilities and is a tough player who could have been a real strong mentor for the young LB.. I stated during Free-Agency that his signing would make the most impact on this Defense and I still stand by this, Asmo is greadt to have but a luxury, and since the Eagles received DCR in the Kolb trade, I think the CB Postion would have been fine with Samuel & DCR as the Starters…
Unfortunately Tulloch signed a more lucrative deal with the Lions and reunites with HC Jim Schwartz who was the DC for the Titans before taking the Lions HC Position so Tulloch is very familiar and enjoys playing for him..
Notice how the Lions are 3-0 and Defensively they are ranked ahead of the Eagles in the important categories as far as creating Turnovers (8-3) and the Lions have given up only 47 points while the Eagles have given up 77 Points in 3 games which is the most impressive… Eagles had to solidify this LB Corp with a proven Veteran, you just cannot go into a season with a LB Corps as inexperienced as the Eagles did and expect consistent defensive performances…was a big mistake in not targeting and getting LB Tulloch..

schiller
schiller
September 27, 2011 10:26 am

Songs – I told you this before but you didn’t look – better safety on the Eagles than Brian Dawkins right now:

(in no particular order):
Allen
Coleman
Page
Jarrett
Anderson

Also:

DRC
Nnamdi
Samuel

schiller
schiller
September 27, 2011 10:28 am

Songs, the Eagles have a lot of problems right now, but none of them are related at all to Brian Dawkins who walked away from the team on his own will to take a ridiculously overvalued contract. The Eagles didn’t choose to let him go – he walked for the money. The Eagles aren’t playing well right now but it has nothing to do with WeaponX

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
September 27, 2011 10:59 am

I am not one to overreact….but something needs to be done with the Linebackers and NOW. I said I wouldn’t judge until they cost us games, they have now cost us two in a row. Get them outta here.

paulman
paulman
September 27, 2011 11:49 am

The Eagles went into camp with a very thin LB Corps who we all knew would have to learn on the job so to speak.. GOing into the 4th Week, it’s almost too late now to go bring in a new player or 2 for it will take them a few weeks to learn the system depending on their conditioning and prior experience..
This is the bed the Eagles made for themselves and now they will have to sleep in it, but there is no doubt that other teams Offensive Coordinators are going to the attack and game plan versus the Eagles LB’s & Safeties until they prove then can defensd better .. A huge mistake by the Eagles of not bringing in at least 1-2 proven veteran LB’s who could play in this system
I agree Birdo that something needs to be done, but who do you put in there to play.. Start another rookie in B rolle, go with dependable A Jordan who has some coverage issues, bring a guy whose been on the streets since last year and who knows about their conditioning, or maybe the best option is to trade, but if that’s not done real soon (like within the next week or so) it will probably be too late to bring in new players.. Poor Roster Management again by this team..